S10.E02: Say Yes to Distress

[announcergirl]

Cynthia rejoins the dating scene with a much younger beau; Shereé meets with a life coach to help get her life back on track; Kenya is scrutinized over her husband; during Shamea's bridal shower, Porsha gets called out for being a shady best friend.

[Ubiquitous]

Wait, was  Shereé really abused by her husband, or is this a new storyline? I'm already tired of Kenya sobbing about her mystery man husband.

[Bronzedog]

So, Cynthia's date staged a photo shoot and got free pictures of a supermodel?   I know there's nothing I'd love to do more on a date than go to my office and let my date watch me work.  Loser.

[Primal Slayer]

Can Poorsha get anymore ridiculous in this episode? Not going to your "bffs" wedding because it's to "expensive" then you try to pull the "I cant fly coach because of "medical" reasons"

Then there is Sheree....the bone collector...stirrer of teas.....in all of her glory lol. When she put together a role play group to get ready to talk to her kids about the abuse in her marriage...

Are we really suppose to believe that they don't already know? They didn't watch the season? She didn't say anything about it when it was all over tv? Girl will do anything to fulfill her screentime and get a story lol.

 

Cynthia was Cynthia, nothing special but her whole date made me laugh and yeah it would be awkward being 50 and dating someone 20 years younger then you but hey! get it gurl! 

Though he wasn't worthy of Cynthia.

I like Kenya but she was even more boring then Cynthia was tonight.

 

But no NeNe and I was fine with it. Leslie Grossman over on Bitch Sesh summed up NeNe perfectly for what she is nowadays....everything she does is for gifs and memes. She's a total caricature of herself.

[announcergirl]

Ok so the date thing did give me pause. A freaking photo shoot? So she had to work unless she really is the narcissist people have called her.

The thing that got me most was allowing Noelle to drive to Charlotte and be with her serious bf. Oh and I guess stay with Peter? Or the bf?

The fro on her date though. O_O

[Bronzedog]

This episode was so boring that no one can think of anything to post about? 

I guess these women are all supposed to be rich, but,  I kind of think if you’re going to have a destination wedding, you’re lucky if anyone shows up.  Especially if everyone has to go to Africa.  I assume you have to get shots, you have to have a current passport, etc.  That’s asking a lot from people.

Edited November 13, 2017 by Bronzedog

[hoosier80]

Ok, so Porsha says she's got some condition where she can't sit with her legs down for long periods of time.  Uh, she couldn't get up and walk like every 30 minutes?  I was thinking she can't afford first class tickets, but nah, if she wanted to go, she'd go.  She'd find a way.  Sell some of those expensive purses (if they're not knock offs), or she'd get a sugar daddy to fund the trip.

Really boring.  And I think I'd rather see Nene than Porsha.  Porsha is just so stupid.

I was ready to ask/say when she was throwing out all that food - I hope she's donating it to a food bank.  Her grandfather founded the charity to help feed people.  But we don't hear squat about that any more.   

[RHJunkie]

I know there's a lot about reality TV that is manipulated for the benefit of drama and ratings, but I can't stand cheesy scenes like Cynthia's bath scene. Forget the fact that the whole thing looked like the beginning of a porn scene where she would obviously get interrupted by some hot man in uniform...but bathing with a full face of make-up? Come on now. 

Porsha is her dumb usual self. I really dislike that that she's still on this show, especially after last year but I can only hope that her maybe she'll isolate herself enough that the show just sees no benefit to keeping her around. The funny thing about her lame ass excuse is that from all of the searches I looked at (I had never heard of the term before), an episode can be triggered by a number of different things but it's standing for long periods of time that is a more common cause...not sitting in the economy class section of a plane, lol. Also, Porsha was flashing her wallet when she was taking cameras around to show off her big new house...you balling like that and can't afford a first class ticket to Kenya? LOL. Porsha always making herself a victim. She sat by like a dumb fool while Phaedra shit talked Shamea and because Shamea said in front of other people that she's sad that Porsha can't come to the wedding and that she feels that Porsha can make the effort to come, Porsha wants to make it seem like Shamea is a bad friend. Her victim complex is just too much. 

[Bronzedog]

Is the fake lobbyist Todd2 officially gone?

[Misslindsey]

I am usually fine with low drama episodes, but this one was so boring.

Aren't Sheree's kids in their late teens or older? I would think they would already know about the abuse. I am pretty sure they probably saw last season, read about it online or on social media. I guess they could have questions, but I am assuming they have already found out about it all.

I really hope Kenya has more of a story than staring at her wedding dress. Kenya, if you played rent-a-boyfriend before you cannot really blame people for questioning it. I am sure there were questions and comments when the news broke that she got married, but Kenya was acting like it was some big global news story.

I agreed with Kandi when she said Porsha should just say straight out that she does not want to go to Shamea's wedding. If Porsha wanted to go she would make it happen. I cannot stand that Porsha is still on the show, but if they insist that she is I could do with way less of her. I do not know if TPTB are trying to redeem her or what. 

Cynthia's bathtub scene and date made me roll my eyes so much. 

[NowVoyager]

Cynthia compared her date to Norbit. Lol! Damn, that was cold.

Porsha's got 12 jobs. I would think she could afford a ticket to Kenya. That trip is hella long tho, first class or nah.

Porsha suddenly becoming vegan. Um, don't you have to ease into that? Throwing out all that food was a horribly wasteful idea. I hope her assistant gave it to a neighbor or something.

Noelle driving to Charlotte to see her boyfriend at 17 seems a little young to me. But, maybe I'm just old.

Shamea's bridal shower looked so nice! I loved the hats & dresses & games! I wish they would have showed the food.

I like Porscha's storyline with her sister, but that girl has resting bitch face for real. She always looks like she just smelled something bad. & her mouth is always open.

[HunterHunted]

7 hours ago, Misslindsey said:

I agreed with Kandi when she said Porsha should just say straight out that she does not want to go to Shamea's wedding. If Porsha wanted to go she would make it happen. I cannot stand that Porsha is still on the show, but if they insist that she is I could do with way less of her. I do not know if TPTB are trying to redeem her or what.

Porsha really should have said that she didn't want to go.  A destination wedding to Hawaii, Napa valley, or Martha's Vineyard is one thing. A destination wedding to Nairobi, Kenya is another. You need to have an up to date passport, vaccinations, malaria medication, and the tickets are prohibitively expensive. If Porsha had planned early she could have gotten a coach ticket for about $1,000, but I don't think I've ever seen a first class ticket for less than $7,500. The other real problem is that Porsha, like most of the women on these shows, is unbelievably provincial. Really having to experience a different culture would have likely brought out the worst in her.

Edited November 13, 2017 by HunterHunted

[cooksdelight]

6 hours ago, Misslindsey said:

I am sure there were questions and comments when the news broke that she got married, but Kenya was acting like it was some big global news story.

Well, it was on the cover of People magazine. :D

Porsha, I got news for you.... Delta has economy plus, and for a few dollars more you get extra leg room, your seat reclines back further, and you can also get a bulkhead seat with lots of leg room. She is such a piece of phoniness. You can see that the other women want nothing to do with her.

[Grumpbump]

I turned this shit show off after Sheree showed up to Kandie's house for what?  The big abuse reveal?  Or the rehearsal of??  Whatever.

This show lost me at the Cynthia's totally unnatural bathtub sequence.  I hear how ridiculous this sounds because this show is either producer-scripted or driven by the actors, I mean, housewives, but how fake was that shit?  I mean, I got a more real vibe from Kenya's fake crying to the producer about a divorce because her husband can't handle all the press ("blogs all over the world")

Edited November 13, 2017 by Grumpbump
Clarity

[Ubiquitous]

So I wasn't the only person wondering why she couldn't take coach instead of first class? I don't think I'd be willing to goto Afrika for a friend's wedding either, but I wouldn't make lame excuses like Porsha.

 

6 hours ago, NowVoyager said:

Porsha suddenly becoming vegan. Um, don't you have to ease into that? Throwing out all that food was a horribly wasteful idea. I hope her assistant gave it to a neighbor or something.

I don't think you have to ease into it, but I found it amusing that she started to empty out her fridge and decided mid-way she'd rather go out drinking(?) and left everything on her counter.

Oh yeah, who else thought she got into a brawl with Shamea in the parking lot when things started to get dramatic and Kim was staring with her mouth hanging open?

[announcergirl]

I wouldn't want to go either. Seriously. It's too much trouble for a wedding. Are they staying more than a few days? I have to work. Go to Myrtle Beach so I can get back by Monday. Just me?

[ghoulina]

I somehow missed the premiere. Had to catch up last night. 

What the what what was up with Cynthia's opening segment? Is she skipping the dating websites and just promoting herself on the show? "Former model, who loves sultry baths and has committed to a house on the lake. So you better love lakes, damnit!"

I have not been following any of these women in the press, so I had no idea about Kenya being married. Seems like a very odd situation. I get the dude not wanting to appear on camera, but by keeping "baby" SO secretive, she's just inviting more press and attention. And apparently he's not thrilled. Only a few months in and she already mentions the "D" word? Not a good sign. Hell, they're not even living together! There's just something very sad about a supposedly married woman prancing around her closet with her wedding dress, showing it off to her DOG. 

Sheree's story line feels off to me as well. I'm not saying there was no abuse with Bob, but the way she's making it a central focus for her and making a big deal of addressing it with her grown children feels very exploitative. 

So I give Porsha's veganism a month. I hope she didn't seriously trash all that meat. No matter what you think about it, it's food that I'm sure some homeless shelters or something would love to have. Hell, I'll take it! 

I don't know what to say about the shit with her and Shamea. I don't think I'd feel comfortable going, because it was quite clear LAST year that Kandi had kind of replaced Porsha and that makes things hella awkward. However, Porsha is acting like it's the money, it's her "syndrome", etc. I think if she was just upfront about why, it would land a lot better. She's acting like she just still loves Shamea to pieces, but her excuses are kind of lame. 

I was disappointed no Nene. I know I'm the lone soul on here that enjoys her, but I do. She's not a great person by any means, but she makes for fun TV. 

[pasdetrois]

Sheree's using her abuse story to make money. Foul.

Cynthia's advertising for her next wallet.

I still don't believe Kenya is legally married. There have been other celebrities who had a ceremony and claimed they were married, when they were not. Bottom-feeder celebrities have lavish weddings knowing they will probably divorce quickly afterward. (I always thought Cynthia and Peter did the marriage thing solely for publicity purposes.) ETA: how much do you think People paid Kenya for the wedding photos?

Kenya's claims that her "husband" is publicity-shy (a restaurateur who is publicity-shy, really?) are an effort to deflect the fact that he agreed to be a fake husband, but with a minimum of exposure. Meanwhile, Kenya has turned into Miss Haversham, dragging her dirty wedding dress around her cold mansion.

They are all so pathetic, with the exception of Kandi. I don't care for her much but she has made something of herself.

NeNe is quite delusional - I think her financial house of cards is going to hit very hard when the gigs stop coming - but she's more interesting than these idiots.

Edited November 13, 2017 by pasdetrois

[Duke2801]

Porshas lame ass excuses aside. If you plan a destination wedding somewhere VERY far away and expensive to travel to - like Africa - you can not get all up in your feelings when people say they can't come.  Shamea already knew P wasn't going to the wedding we'll in advance of the shower. It was lame to start a fight about it just because the cameras were there. 

Ugh and now I feel like I'm defending Porsha. I feel dirty. 

Yea sorry there is NO damn way that Sheree's kids don't already know about Bob and the abuse. It became central focus of her storyline when they took that vacation last year. I am sure that even if the kids don't watch the show themselves that they have friends or family who do- and would have told them about it. 

Edited November 13, 2017 by Duke2801

[Baltimore Betty]

9 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

This episode was so boring that no one can think of anything to post about? 

I guess these women are all supposed to be rich, but,  I kind of think if you’re going to have a destination wedding, you’re lucky if anyone shows up.  Especially if everyone has to go to Africa.  I assume you have to get shots, you have to have a current passport, etc.  That’s asking a lot from people.

My thoughts exactly!  I have friends that have Bar and Bat Mitzvah's in Israel for their kids, usually it's for a small intimate gathering, it's not only expensive but you don't go just for the weekend, it's time and money not everyone has.  What does this Shamea do that she has that kind of coin and expects all of her besties to show up on a different continent for her wedding?  Shamea should have remembered the ladies have already done an Africa trip on Bravo's dime, no way are the ladies going to pay their way for a destination wedding that won't be filmed by and paid for by Bravo.  So Kandi having coin equates to her being Shamea's best, most supportive friend, that and the fact she is going to buy an African dress, (which seems like it was new info for her),for the rehearsal dinner in the bush.  

[Ubiquitous]

46 minutes ago, announcergirl said:

I wouldn't want to go either. Seriously. It's too much trouble for a wedding. Are they staying more than a few days? I have to work. Go to Myrtle Beach so I can get back by Monday. Just me?

If she wants a faux Afrikan themed wedding, why not have it at Busch Gardens? This trip is not going to be their obligatory vacation abroad, is it?

[Duke2801]

4 minutes ago, Ubiquitous said:

If she wants a faux Afrikan themed wedding, why not have it at Busch Gardens? This trip is not going to be their obligatory vacation abroad, is it?

Being that only Kandi is the only housewife going - coupled with the fact that they already took a cast trip to Africa -  I'd guess no. 

Edited November 13, 2017 by Duke2801

[Juliegirlj]

The end scenes with Kenya crying to producer's was the only real part of the episode. I thought it was funny that they were showing her closets and bedroom hall and there was not one piece of men's clothing anywhere. Starting to think the husband is of the imaginary type. 

WTF on Sheree??! Why is she having her Bob roast at Kandi's guest house, and why is she still using that as a storyline?! Her kids are old enough to know exactly what happened between their parents. 

[Apprentice79]

6 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

Porsha really should have said that she didn't want to go.  A destination wedding to Hawaii, Napa valley, or Martha's Vineyard is one thing. A destination wedding to Nairobi, Kenya is another. You need to have an up to date passport, vaccinations, malaria medication, and the tickets are prohibitively expensive. If Porsha had planned early she could have gotten a coach ticket for about $1,000, but I don't think I've ever seen a first class ticket for less than $7,500. The other real problem is that Porsha, like most of the women on these shows, is unbelievably provincial. Really having to experience a different culture would have likely brought out the worst in her.

Exactly! I do think that in the name of friendship, she should have gone to support Shamea.  It would be a chance to experience a different culture, not to get too political. It would be a chance to see the motherland. I remember spending a day in Africa in college and it felt oddly familiar to me.  Plus, I thought Porsha liked African men, who knows, she could have met a rich one at the wedding to support her..lol..

Edited November 13, 2017 by Apprentice79

[Empress1]

1 hour ago, announcergirl said:

I wouldn't want to go either. Seriously. It's too much trouble for a wedding. Are they staying more than a few days? I have to work. Go to Myrtle Beach so I can get back by Monday. Just me?

I wouldn’t want to go either. I’m not into destination weddings as a rule, and with all the medical ducks you need to have in a row that @HUNTERHUNTED mentioned AND the expense and time off work (it doesn’t make sense to go to Kenya for a weekend, it damn near takes that long to get there), I’d send my regrets. 

47 minutes ago, pasdetrois said:

Kenya's claims that her "husband" is publicity-shy (a restaurateur who is publicity-shy, really?) are an effort to deflect the fact that he agreed to be a fake husband, but with a minimum of exposure. Meanwhile, Kenya has turned into Miss Haversham, dragging her dirty wedding dress around her cold mansion.

 I think he’s an investor, not the face of the restaurant. It sounds like it’s Chef Roble’s restaurant and Marc is the financial backer, or one of them.

When I saw Cynthia's date I was like “How old is he?” and then when he said his age I was like “I thought so.”  I don’t blame Cynthia for letting that go. I wouldn’t want to date someone that much younger either (well, I couldn’t because it would be illegal, but you know). She didn’t have to call him Norbit though!

[Ubiquitous]

58 minutes ago, Juliegirlj said:

The end scenes with Kenya crying to producer's was the only real part of the episode. I thought it was funny that they were showing her closets and bedroom hall and there was not one piece of men's clothing anywhere. Starting to think the husband is of the imaginary type. 

Yeah, I'm starting to wonder too, but you know what? I really don't care.

 

41 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

Exactly! I do think that in the name of friendship, she should have gone to support Shamea.  It would be a chance to experience a different culture, not to get too political. It would be a chance to see the motherland. I remember spending a day in Africa in college and it felt oddly familiar to me.  Plus, I thought Porsha liked African men, who knows, she could have met a rich one at the wedding to support her..lol..

Aren't the princes Porsha dates from Nigeria?

[CaughtOnTape]

1 hour ago, pasdetrois said:

Sheree's using her abuse story to make money. Foul.

I always have issues with this sentiment.  We are consistently telling women they should speak up, tell their story, don't be afraid.

Then they do....and it's "you're doing this for gains."  "stop trying to make money off of your tragedy"....

??????????????????????????

She's obviously been abused.  One only need see Bob's reaction and general hand waving of it to see it's for real.  I don't have a problem with her discussing it on the show nor do I have a problem with her using trusted friends to have the conversation in a role playing scenario.  Look, not everyone finds it easy to just sit down and start discussing things like that.  We know Sheree is generally a very strong-willed woman who I can only imagine finds what happened with the abuse to not only be hard to handle, but hard to acknowledge because she thinks it makes her weak.  I'm sure in her mind she's beating herself up about being that stupid woman who allowed a man to abuse her.  

As far as making money....hell yeah.  As should any woman who's abuser has gotten away with it and then refused to pay child support and/or spousal support.  If dragging Bob through the mud on national television kills his reputation as well as earns her some cash....go for it.  

[HunterHunted]

2 hours ago, Ubiquitous said:

If she wants a faux Afrikan themed wedding, why not have it at Busch Gardens? This trip is not going to be their obligatory vacation abroad, is it?

Is it a faux African wedding if Shamea married an actual African, a Kenyan man? They've already done the dowry/bride price ceremony/traditional marriage. Having attended the dowry/bride price ceremonies/traditional marriages for my brothers, cousins, and friends, I can assure you that no one who does one of those thinks the Africaness of their wedding is faux. And why would they have it at Busch Gardens? I assume there is some sort of safari attraction there? There is more to a Kenyan or African wedding than African animals. In fact, I've never been to an African wedding where animals had any part of it. There is the food, the music, clothing, and a bunch of cultural traditions that Busch Gardens wouldn't have a clue about. Furthermore, most typical wedding venues can't handle an African wedding, both size and food wise. I've rarely been to an African wedding with fewer than 200 guests and typically between 400 - 500 people.

Shamea's wedding wasn't the housewives trip. Kandi is the only one who attended the wedding.

How I know that Shamea knew that Porsha wasn't coming to the wedding was because as a really close friend of the bride, Porsha would have been expected to wear at least an outfit or two in the bride's side's wax print and/or lace. And those have to be made. Shamea and Porsha clearly weren't communicating back and forth about those matters. That's a clue that Shamea already knew.

1 hour ago, Apprentice79 said:

Exactly! I do think that in the name of friendship, she should have gone to support Shamea.  It would be a chance to experience a different culture, not to get too political. It would be a chance to see the motherland. I remember spending a day in Africa in college and it felt familiar  to me.  I felt at peace with my ancestors.   Plus, I thought Porsha liked African men, who knows, she could have met a rich one at the wedding to support her..lol..

Porsha likes African men with money who spend it ON. HER. IN. AMERICA. I've never seen any indication that she cares about African culture. Furthermore, the African guys who are that flash in America often have wives back home.

Edited November 13, 2017 by HunterHunted

[Apprentice79]

5 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

Porsha likes African men with money who spend it ON. HER. IN. AMERICA. I've never seen any indication that she cares about African culture. Furthermore, the African guys who are that flash in America often have wives back home.

Porsha has no interest in basic Black American history, I doubt she would have any interest in African cultures.  

[ZaldamoWilder]

3 hours ago, Ubiquitous said:

So I wasn't the only person wondering why she couldn't take coach instead of first class? I don't think I'd be willing to goto Afrika for a friend's wedding either, but I wouldn't make lame excuses like Porsha.

 

I don't think you have to ease into it, but I found it amusing that she started to empty out her fridge and decided mid-way she'd rather go out drinking(?) and left everything on her counter.

Oh yeah, who else thought she got into a brawl with Shamea in the parking lot when things started to get dramatic and Kim was staring with her mouth hanging open?

As likely as it may have been given that Porsha was one of the participants in that conversation, we saw Lauren reluctantly interrupt and displace Shamea by apologetically stating that they had to go pick up Bailey.   There wasn't an opportunity to brawl.   For Shamea's part I'm not even sure she considered it worth it, given that Porsha has trouble being direct enough to say I'm not going to the trouble of coming to your destination wedding because we're not close like that anymore, when she didn't hesitate to say I'm not trying to understand you.    Sooooo....you just realized one of your best friends isn't only a dumbass, she's also an asshole.  There's nothing to fight about.     She knew Porsha wasn't coming, she just wanted her to stop inventing nonsense ass excuses. 

 

2 hours ago, ghoulina said:

I somehow missed the premiere. Had to catch up last night. 

What the what what was up with Cynthia's opening segment? Is she skipping the dating websites and just promoting herself on the show? "Former model, who loves sultry baths and has committed to a house on the lake. So you better love lakes, damnit!"

I have not been following any of these women in the press, so I had no idea about Kenya being married. Seems like a very odd situation. I get the dude not wanting to appear on camera, but by keeping "baby" SO secretive, she's just inviting more press and attention. And apparently he's not thrilled. Only a few months in and she already mentions the "D" word? Not a good sign. Hell, they're not even living together! There's just something very sad about a supposedly married woman prancing around her closet with her wedding dress, showing it off to her DOG. 

Sheree's story line feels off to me as well. I'm not saying there was no abuse with Bob, but the way she's making it a central focus for her and making a big deal of addressing it with her grown children feels very exploitative. 

So I give Porsha's veganism a month. I hope she didn't seriously trash all that meat. No matter what you think about it, it's food that I'm sure some homeless shelters or something would love to have. Hell, I'll take it! 

I don't know what to say about the shit with her and Shamea. I don't think I'd feel comfortable going, because it was quite clear LAST year that Kandi had kind of replaced Porsha and that makes things hella awkward. However, Porsha is acting like it's the money, it's her "syndrome", etc. I think if she was just upfront about why, it would land a lot better. She's acting like she just still loves Shamea to pieces, but her excuses are kind of lame. 

I was disappointed no Nene. I know I'm the lone soul on here that enjoys her, but I do. She's not a great person by any means, but she makes for fun TV. 

= the point.  

2 hours ago, Ubiquitous said:

If she wants a faux Afrikan themed wedding, why not have it at Busch Gardens? This trip is not going to be their obligatory vacation abroad, is it?

lol, the first time I thought it was a typo, fast fingers, keys next to each other (they're not) but - there's no k in Africa babe. 

1 hour ago, Ubiquitous said:

Aren't the princes Porsha dates from Nigeria?

 If they exist at all.     

Also a country in Africa. 

42 minutes ago, CaughtOnTape said:

I always have issues with this sentiment.  We are consistently telling women they should speak up, tell their story, don't be afraid.

Then they do....and it's "you're doing this for gains."  "stop trying to make money off of your tragedy"....

??????????????????????????

She's obviously been abused.  One only need see Bob's reaction and general hand waving of it to see it's for real.  I don't have a problem with her discussing it on the show nor do I have a problem with her using trusted friends to have the conversation in a role playing scenario.  Look, not everyone finds it easy to just sit down and start discussing things like that.  We know Sheree is generally a very strong-willed woman who I can only imagine finds what happened with the abuse to not only be hard to handle, but hard to acknowledge because she thinks it makes her weak.  I'm sure in her mind she's beating herself up about being that stupid woman who allowed a man to abuse her.  

As far as making money....hell yeah.  As should any woman who's abuser has gotten away with it and then refused to pay child support and/or spousal support.  If dragging Bob through the mud on national television kills his reputation as well as earns her some cash....go for it.  

I'm not sure anyone doubts the veracity of Sheree's ordeal with Bob.   The exploitative part is that it's as if the weight and gravity of it wasn't significant to her until we were paying attention to it.   I don't mean that in a "why now" kind of way, I mean it's as if their being in the public eye reminded her of a thing that wouldn'tve been easily forgotten in the first place and now the conversations she's had and planning to have surrounding it seem to be ones reserved for taping.    Of course, there's no way to know what transpires in the off season, so I hope my impression about that is completely inaccurate. 

35 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

Is it a faux African wedding if Shamea married an actual African, a Kenyan man? They've already done the dowry/bride price ceremony/traditional marriage. Having attended the dowry/bride price ceremonies/traditional marriages for my brothers, cousins, and friends, I can assure you that no one who does one of those thinks the Africaness of their wedding is faux. And why would they have it at Busch Gardens? I assume there is some sort of safari attraction there? There is more to a Kenyan or African wedding than African animals. In fact, I've never been to an African wedding where animals had any part of it. There is the food, the music, clothing, and a bunch of cultural traditions that Busch Gardens wouldn't have a clue about. Furthermore, most typical wedding venues can't handle an African wedding, both size and food wise. I've rarely been to an African wedding with fewer than 200 guests and typically between 400 - 500 people.

Shamea's wedding wasn't the housewives trip. Kandi is the only one who attended the wedding.

How I know that Shamea knew that Porsha wasn't coming to the wedding was because as a really close friend of the bride, Porsha would have been expected to wear at least an outfit or two in the bride's side's was print and/or lace. And those have to be made. Shamea and Porsha clearly weren't communicating back and forth about those matters. That's a clue that Shamea already knew.

Porsha likes African men with money who spend it ON. HER. IN. AMERICA. I've never seen any indication that she cares about African culture. Furthermore, the African guys who are that flash in America often have wives back home.

Hella. alla. this. 

Edited November 13, 2017 by ZaldamoWilder

[Baltimore Betty]

1 hour ago, Juliegirlj said:

WTF on Sheree??! Why is she having her Bob roast at Kandi's guest house, and why is she still using that as a storyline?! Her kids are old enough to know exactly what happened between their parents. 

It's stupid but Kandi does not mind, it means more screen time for her!  Why wouldn't her life coach give her some coaching on what to say so she could discuss it with her children although Kandi did an excellent job with her scripting for Sheree.  

I bet her kids have been in the know about the story line for years but for the sake of Mom's paycheck they will act like it is new information for them.  

Kenya with the veil on crying in her closet, OMG, so dramatic!  One thing I have been jealous of (from all the HW's), is the closet porn, not even their clothing but just the closets...I aspire to have a closet all my own with a sofa a window and well, everything!  If Kenya got married in the islands her marriage may not be legal in the US, there are only a few islands that the US recognizes the marriage as legal, how convenient for Kenya.

[Juliegirlj]

I'm sure Kandi likes extra screen time, but I thought she seemed annoyed at having to set up her guest house for Sheree's meeting. Doesn't Sheree live in a giant mansion that took years to build? And yet she can't have a scene filmed at her house because her grown ass kids would be there?! ??

[bichonblitz]

3 hours ago, Grumpbump said:

I turned this shit show off after Sheree showed up to Kandie's house for what?  The big abuse reveal?  Or the rehearsal of??  Whatever.

Ummmmmm couldn't Sheree have had the girls over to her house when her kids weren't there? Like in school or work or something? I'm still side eyeing whether she really lives in the Chateau Sheree. Don/t believe she does. What a fake. 
 

[islandgal140]

23 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

Porsha has no interest in basic Black American history, I doubt she would have any interest in African cultures.  

The conductors on the Underground Railroad can attest to this. 

I'm glad they actually mentioned the country the wedding is going to take place in.

I am gonna need a bath after this but I ain't mad at Porsha for not going.  She is gonna get dragged no matter how she tries to wriggle out of it.  She keeps making flimsy excuses like expensive tickets people are counting her money or her health issues they'll say she is lying. If she were "honest" and said she just didn't want to go they would call her self-centered for not being a true friend. This isn't even Shamea's first time at the rodeo. Their friendship has suffered in large part due to Porsha - no doubt! But in her defense, she has gone to and participated in the dowry ceremony and the bridal shower.  

Bringing this all up in front of Kandi was messy. Part of me is thinking that maybe Shamea is extra pressed because it would be more likely to be featured on the show if another HW attended. 

I'm side eyeing the hell out of Kenya! 

Any episode without Monkey with a Wig on is fine in my book! 

[Rlb8031]

2 hours ago, Ubiquitous said:

If she wants a faux Afrikan themed wedding, why not have it at Busch Gardens? This trip is not going to be their obligatory vacation abroad, is it?

The man she is marrying is Kenyan. So its not a faux themed wedding, he's celebrating his wedding with his family and friends in a culturally appropriate manner.

Edited November 13, 2017 by Rlb8031
correcting his nationality

[Baltimore Betty]

I just looked at Shamea's Bed, Bath & Beyond wedding registry, she registered for very expensive china, silver and crystal, none purchased but a few of the $50 and under items were bought.  So if her friends are declining to spend big bucks on a gift, forking over $5000 on airline tickets was not going to happen. 

[drivethroo]

Porsha is probably suddenly going vegan because she suddenly gaining weight.

[Rlb8031]

1 hour ago, Empress1 said:

 I think he’s an investor, not the face of the restaurant. It sounds like it’s Chef Roble’s restaurant and Marc is the financial backer, or one of them.

It's not Roble's restaurant. The restaurant is SoCo Brooklyn. I think he is an investor (as he isn't mentioned in any of the articles around the opening of the place). Think OLG slightly more upscale with a creole/Caribbean twist and you're in the right ballpark.

[CaughtOnTape]

34 minutes ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

I'm not sure anyone doubts the veracity of Sheree's ordeal with Bob.   The exploitative part is that it's as if the weight and gravity of it wasn't significant to her until we were paying attention to it.   I don't mean that in a "why now" kind of way, I mean it's as if their being in the public eye reminded her of a thing that wouldn'tve been easily forgotten in the first place and now the conversations she's had and planning to have surrounding it seem to be ones reserved for taping.    Of course, there's no way to know what transpires in the off season, so I hope my impression about that is completely inaccurate. 

I mean, why is it always nefarious?  A lot of survivors try not to deal with it afterwards until it ends up eating away at them and they CAN'T ignore it anymore.  It was brought up last year because she was trying to reconcile with Bob only to realize he hadn't changed and would probably end up doing the same thing.  I'm sure that was scary for her.  She was super close to being sucked back in by his charms.  That had to be a helluva wake up call for her.  It's pretty clear she hasn't had any therapy about this until now.  Not to mention back when it was happening to her Bob was still a star athlete and domestic abuse wasn't discussed; it was just a dirty little secret.  She's also a black woman and domestic abuse is even more of a dirty little secret in the black community and therapy is even worse.

There are many reasons why Sheree might suddenly be deciding to discuss her abuse.  Is some of it for the cameras?  Sure.  But she is on a reality show where putting things on camera is required of her.  And women speaking out is headline making right now.  I just don't think it's cool to side-eye her as if her ordeal is lessened because she's trying to gain something from it.  More power to her.

[Carolina Girl]

11 hours ago, NowVoyager said:

Throwing out all that food was a horribly wasteful idea. I hope her assistant gave it to a neighbor or something.

Or how about a homeless shelter? Or a soup kitchen?  Or even a food bank?  

Vegan my ass....$10 says she's filmed eating a (real) burger before the end of the season.

[ZaldamoWilder]

1 hour ago, Juliegirlj said:

I'm sure Kandi likes extra screen time, but I thought she seemed annoyed at having to set up her guest house for Sheree's meeting. Doesn't Sheree live in a giant mansion that took years to build? And yet she can't have a scene filmed at her house because her grown ass kids would be there?! ??

Aren't all the rooms shaped like a circle or something? lol.   It might not be furnished yet.     

I was like did she really bring one rotisserie chicken to feed 7 adults?  what the hell? 

 

31 minutes ago, CaughtOnTape said:

I mean, why is it always nefarious?  A lot of survivors try not to deal with it afterwards until it ends up eating away at them and they CAN'T ignore it anymore.  It was brought up last year because she was trying to reconcile with Bob only to realize he hadn't changed and would probably end up doing the same thing.  I'm sure that was scary for her.  She was super close to being sucked back in by his charms.  That had to be a helluva wake up call for her.  It's pretty clear she hasn't had any therapy about this until now.  Not to mention back when it was happening to her Bob was still a star athlete and domestic abuse wasn't discussed; it was just a dirty little secret.  She's also a black woman and domestic abuse is even more of a dirty little secret in the black community and therapy is even worse.

There are many reasons why Sheree might suddenly be deciding to discuss her abuse.  Is some of it for the cameras?  Sure.  But she is on a reality show where putting things on camera is required of her.  And women speaking out is headline making right now.  I just don't think it's cool to side-eye her as if her ordeal is lessened because she's trying to gain something from it.  More power to her.

I don't know, why is it?  That's your word, I didn't call it nefarious.   I said if the conversations have only ever taken place on camera, that's exploitative.  

[CaughtOnTape]

13 minutes ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

I don't know, why is it?  That's your word, I didn't call it nefarious.   I said if the conversations have only ever taken place on camera, that's exploitative.  

Semantics.

[ZaldamoWilder]

8 minutes ago, CaughtOnTape said:

Semantics.

Not really.   

Nefarious is sinister or criminal in nature.   Exploitative is using a situation as an opportunity for personal benefit gain.  

[tiredofwork]

I think except for Kandi who has several built in storylines (Xscape, the restaurant) all of these ladies are struggling for a story stream that will keep them on this show.  As such, they have been stretching for that lifeline since last year and I think Sherree and Bob initiated that "reunion" merely for a storyline..  Then the CTE riddled idiot went there more than once on the abuse factor thinking it was funny???   So I believe with that Sherree is milking the shit out of what was truly a horrific situation.  But had Bob not been the idiot he was, in bringing it up, we would not have these belated interventions and Life Coach sessions.., this season.   It keeps the Sherree relevant in a topic that always needs to be addressed.. So in any case, I hope it raises some awareness. 

I hate when friends, relatives decide to SPEND MY MONEY for their narcissistic reasons such as their birthday or wedding or whatever.. So I am extremely not a fan of a destination wedding where I am expected to take out a 2nd mortgage to honor them..., I mean I hate it when I have to go even to a restaurant they want to hold a party at where we are expected to order food I don't want and also chip in to pay for their exorbitant food/bar tab because they are such wonderful people we all want to honor them through our hard earned cash.   I don't like Porsha at all, but I certainly don't blame her or any of those who would tell Shamea.. no, I am not spending probably a total of 10k-15k in flight, hotel, food for her wedding... Nope, not gonna do it.  I don't think it really has to do with whether or not you can afford it.  Don't spend MY money for your purpose.

[Sheenieb]

Quote

Kenya's claims that her "husband" is publicity-shy (a restaurateur who is publicity-shy, really?) are an effort to deflect the fact that he agreed to be a fake husband, but with a minimum of exposure. Meanwhile, Kenya has turned into Miss Haversham, dragging her dirty wedding dress around her cold mansion.
 

Look at you giving shady literary references.

I want to root for Kenya, but she makes it hard. She gets married, but her husband doesn't live in the same city, and at the time, there was no talk of either of them moving. 

Her husband may be private, but she was carrying on/or he's carrying on like she's the JFK Jr to his Carolyn. News about her wedding spread "internationally"? I had to laugh at that. Girl, I didn't know bossip and madamenoire were international publications. Everything she does is suspect.

I would've respected Porsha a lot more if she straight up said she couldn't afford the ticket. But she kept switching up the story. First she said, "when we looked up the tickets, it was too expensive." That right there tells you that she waited until the last minute to do it. Next, it's some illness. She may have 50-11 jobs, but that doesn't mean she has savings. 

I hope Sheree wore that awful wig in her talking heads as a dare and not because she thought it looked cute. 

[ghoulina]

3 hours ago, Juliegirlj said:

I'm sure Kandi likes extra screen time, but I thought she seemed annoyed at having to set up her guest house for Sheree's meeting. Doesn't Sheree live in a giant mansion that took years to build? And yet she can't have a scene filmed at her house because her grown ass kids would be there?! ??

Yes. She was like, "I can't practice what I'm going to say with the kids around". Like she has toddlers that need constant tending to. I bet her kids just come around for food and sleep. 

 

2 hours ago, Carolina Girl said:

Or how about a homeless shelter? Or a soup kitchen?  Or even a food bank?  

Vegan my ass....$10 says she's filmed eating a (real) burger before the end of the season.

I wouldn't be surprised if she had her assistant haul that trash can full of meat out to the garage and store it in a separate freezer. 

[LibertarianSlut]

16 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

This episode was so boring that no one can think of anything to post about? 

I guess these women are all supposed to be rich, but,  I kind of think if you’re going to have a destination wedding, you’re lucky if anyone shows up.  Especially if everyone has to go to Africa.  I assume you have to get shots, you have to have a current passport, etc.  That’s asking a lot from people.

This episode had no charisma. It felt disjointed, and way too much emphasis on people who are not Housewives. My take--if Andy didn't think your life or your storyline was interesting enough to garner you a peach, I don't care too much about you either. 

These women aren't friends, they don't hang out, and it's painfully obvious. 

Nene's return doesn't give me as much disgust as I thought it might. I think it's because the vacuum of evil left by Phaedra could have been filled with almost anyone on earth, and I would have been relieved to be rid of Phaedra. Sort of a reverse Stockholm Syndrome...

Sheree--I am not a fan of the storyline, not because it's domestic violence per se, but because it's being dealt with irresponsibly IMO. First of all, if you're really trying to work through an issue from your past, you go to a therapist, not a "life coach" with an office constructed solely of clear glass windows. Yeah, I'm a high profile woman like Sheree Whitfield, and I really want my "therapy" to be witnessed by your receptionist and anyone who happens to be in the waiting room. 

I know a lot of this is for a storyline, but, the story is that Sheree needs help getting past her pain and her shame over being abused in a past relationship, and one of the goals of said therapy is to be able to speak openly about it with her children. So Sheree tells life coach she's ashamed, and life coach doesn't respond by talking to her about what a wasted emotion shame is, how it helps no one; he just tells her, basically, to suck it up and talk to her kids. If she knew how to do that, why would she be seeking therapy/life coaching in the first place?!? That is some who gon check me boo shit right there for me.

Everyone else: it was so annoying to see Porsha wasting the meat, but I don't blame her on the Shamea/wedding front. Was that a bridal shower or a bachelorette party? It seemed like a hybrid. I may be alone, but I find those wiener/penis games so stupid. Cynthia, you are beautiful, but I do not need to see you bathe, your date looked like your contemporary, not your son, but putting you through a surprise photo shoot is super creepy and weird (felt the same way when some loser tried the same thing on Millionaire Matchmaker back in the day), and seventeen is too young to let your daughter go on an interstate sojourn to see her boyfriend. I kind of wish Nene had been around to put a kibosh on that thing. Remember a few seasons ago when Cynthia told Nene that her daughter had a boyfriend, Arthur, and Nene clutched her breast in outrage ("Arthur!") One of my favorite Nene moments ever, and I don't like Nene. 

Don't care about Lauren. Don't really like her. Don't really care about Shamea either, though I'm curious about this husband. Also, loved the shade that Porsha will be quick to jump on a flight as long as it's to see a man.

 

Kenya needs some therapy (or a life coach ?), because it seems like every single interaction she has with a man becomes chaotic, complicated, and dark very quickly. And she said that she and Marc didn't date for several months after meeting because she had to work on herself first, so this is the improved Kenya! Time will tell.

[Bronzedog]

I wonder if Porscha checked to see if she could book a seat on the Underground Railroad to get to Kenya.

[Crazydoxielady]

I am happy to be the one to tell Shamea the truth about weddings: other than your parents; nobody cares and it’s all money drama and a burden. 

Cynthia can get out with her weird bathtub scene in a full face of makeup, & staged date where she got to shoot photos. That guy looked familiar too...reality TV male ho?

Bored and somewhat disgusted Sheree is making DV her new storyline, all while using a life coach in lieu of a therapist, and $20.00 worth of grocery store quick pick ups. 

Edited November 14, 2017 by Crazydoxielady

[cooksdelight]

1 hour ago, Crazydoxielady said:

I am happy to be the one to tell Shamea the truth about weddings: other than your parents; nobody cares and it’s all money drama and a burden. 

Cynthia can get out with her weird bathtub scene in a full face of makeup, & staged date where she got to shoot photos. That guy looked familiar too...reality TV male ho?

Bored and somewhat disgusted Sheree is making DV her new storyline, all while using a life coach in lieu of a therapist, and $20.00 worth of grocery store quick pick ups. 

I got married 3 months ago, we didn’t register for gifts, got married at home with only family present, and had a reception at our church with friends and family present. It was a beautiful day and Shamea is going to someday look back on this and wish she’d done the same.

Sheree was in Iylana Fix My Life and she ignored everything the woman told her. She’s delusional and I don’t expect she’s going to fix her life now either. Using domestic violence as a storyline... did Bob and the kids sign off on that? 

Edited November 14, 2017 by cooksdelight