Season 5 Discussion

[BeachyWave]

3 hours ago, PityFree said:

Someone please explain to me why Molly—the woman who owns a specialty bra fitting shop—is walking around with her white bra hanging out of the back of her open back red shirt. 

#metoo!

[BeachyWave]

3 hours ago, EarlGreyTea said:

Constant contact with Andrei aside, Elizabeth's phone being taken away made me livid. Who the hell are these assholes to be taking away someone's property? Perhaps it's the only child in me speaking, but I would have called their bluff and left right then and there. I thought that WAS what she was doing when she dragged her suitcase into her room. It was amusing to me as an only child, again, that they forgot their spat minutes later. I'll never understand that dynamic.

Ditto! I woulda been on my way home in a taxi pronto. They probably took away her wallet, too, so I honestly would have had the front desk call someone to take me home.

2 hours ago, Chickabiddy said:

Is it just me or did that fertility doctor sound a little over dramatic about Aike’s dwindling supply of quality eggs?

I got preggers accidentally at 49, so that is quite overwrought.

[HappyDancex2]

1 hour ago, Forum member said:

Having no vasectomy experience, I'd have to think there's some sperm lurking in his balls. Could they shove a needle in there and extract some without doing a reversal?

I'll volunteer.  Can you wait until I take my contact lenses out?  Can I use a spoon?

[biakbiak]

Ashley shouldn't have thrown that water because she is clearly thirsty as fuck.

[OhIgetit]

3 hours ago, EarlGreyTea said:

Constant contact with Andrei aside, Elizabeth's phone being taken away made me livid. Who the hell are these assholes to be taking away someone's property? Perhaps it's the only child in me speaking, but I would have called their bluff and left right then and there. I thought that WAS what she was doing when she dragged her suitcase into her room. It was amusing to me as an only child, again, that they forgot their spat minutes later. I'll never understand that dynamic.

Having said all that, Elizabeth really shouldn't have gone on the trip, because clearly laying out her expectations in advance did fuck all. Apropos of nothing, her hair looked really nice curly.

If there is a hell, Molly's voice is being piped through the loudspeakers 24/7.

I have siblings and they would never do what Libby’s sisters did to her. They may take my phone to send a video and joke around, however knowing the circumstances they wouldn’t do something malicious like her sisters did. 

These girls need to learn that Bachelorette parties are a fairly new tradition, I am in my 40s and when I was growing up and men had bachelor parties and women had showers. Libby says he is traditional, so I don’t get the need for the sisters to emphasize a bachelorette party and never once mention a shower.  

[HappyDancex2]

3 minutes ago, OhIgetit said:

I have siblings and they would never do what Libby’s sisters did to her. They may take my phone to send a video and joke around, however knowing the circumstances they wouldn’t do something malicious like her sisters did. 

These girls need to learn that Bachelorette parties are a fairly new tradition, I am in my 40s and when I was growing up and men had bachelor parties and women had showers. Libby says he is traditional, so I don’t get the need for the sisters to emphasize a bachelorette party and never once mention a shower.  

I think it's TLC just finding more screen time for nice bodies on TV.   The girls have obviously invested in brazilian blowouts and crop tops so they can get some innocuous screen time by just taking the "is my sister going to be controlled by Andreeiiii?" storyline to some absurd fake level.

I'm surprised they didn't craft some conflict with Andreeiii going after the unmarried sister.

[spankydoll]

1 minute ago, HappyDancex2 said:

I think it's TLC just finding more screen time for nice bodies on TV.   The girls have obviously invested in brazilian blowouts and crop tops so they can get some innocuous screen time by just taking the "is my sister going to be controlled by Andreeiiii?" storyline to some absurd fake level.

I'm surprised they didn't craft some conflict with Andreeiii going after the unmarried sister.

All of her sisters are bimbo famewhores. 

[balisticnikki]

5 minutes ago, HappyDancex2 said:

I think it's TLC just finding more screen time for nice bodies on TV.   The girls have obviously invested in brazilian blowouts and crop tops so they can get some innocuous screen time by just taking the "is my sister going to be controlled by Andreeiiii?" storyline to some absurd fake level.

I'm surprised they didn't craft some conflict with Andreeiii going after the unmarried sister.

For a second, i thought he was gonna follow them to Miami & crash the party!

"Dis is like inappropriate. Obviously. And i don't appreciate you like disrespecting me. Obviously. And that's it."

Edited December 11, 2017 by balisticnikki

[BeachyWave]

1 hour ago, usernameG said:

Plus why does he always look like he's running around in pajamas?

"Running" is really pushing it, dontcha think?

[eggsnbacon]

20 minutes ago, OhIgetit said:

I have siblings and they would never do what Libby’s sisters did to her. They may take my phone to send a video and joke around, however knowing the circumstances they wouldn’t do something malicious like her sisters did. 

These girls need to learn that Bachelorette parties are a fairly new tradition, I am in my 40s and when I was growing up and men had bachelor parties and women had showers. Libby says he is traditional, so I don’t get the need for the sisters to emphasize a bachelorette party and never once mention a shower.  

Her family is very controlling. no wonder she picked someone like Andrei. 

[millennium]

2 hours ago, HappyDancex2 said:

Does this show have free crayons and eyebrow stencils in the makeup room for the participants to play with?   Why do so many of these women have these stupid drawn on cartoon eyebrows?  I couldn't even concentrate on David's daughter with her snooki makeup yapping at Annie, whose eyebrows were shedding powder LOL.

Are we 100% sure that wasn't actually David in a wig and eyeliner?

[ChiBurbsMama]

1 hour ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

2 hours ago, Miss Chevious said:

Saw Evilyn modeling her wedding dress in the preview for next week. Reminded me of Little House on the Prairie.

That monstrosity HAS to be her mom's wedding dress ...... 

Looks like what us mature women (who high schooled in the 70's) would wear to prom, courtesy of Gunne Sax . . . lol

[Sienna]

Watching the re-run:

 

"I'm willing to do basically anything"

 

Ummm, no Josh, you're willing to SAY anything. BIGGGGGGGGGGGGGG difference.

 

No way in hell he can afford it, even if he were willing; which I doubt he is, considering he's a deadbeat to the kids he already has.

[Desert Rat]

Fun fact, Aika, a  man who has had a vasectomy is no less a man, no damage to manhood. I should know, my husband had one about 15 years ago.  

[Turquoise]

4 hours ago, PityFree said:

ETA:  Someone please explain to me why Molly—the woman who owns a specialty bra fitting shop—is walking around with her white bra hanging out of the back of her open back red shirt. 

 

3 hours ago, HappyDancex2 said:

I hate it when men blame "she hass da period!" = crazy.

That being said, Molly was batshit crazy down to her exposed bra, lace leggings and OMG WHY did the camera her up the stairs with it pointed on her ass??  My eyes.  And rude.

The kicker for me was the voiceover..."I just got home from work". What the everloving HELL?

[mamadrama]

1 hour ago, balisticnikki said:

Why couldn't Libby stand up to her sisters? I don't get it. (I'm an only child.) Why didn't she just tell Jenn, "bitch, give me my phone."

I don't get that dynamic. If Libby was mad, why was she just mumbling complaints under her breath? She's a grown woman...the youngest, yes, but an adult. How lomg was she going to go along w their games, if Becka hadn't intervened?

Because Libby is a complainer and a shit stirrer. She doesn't confront anyone to their face; instead, she complains about them behind their backs (Andrei doesn't want me to go out, my dad is upset with you, my sisters are making me go with them, etc.) and then plays people against each other. 

[TrininisaScorp]

I echo the annoyance at Evelyn being the voice of reason re: the sex talk.  Clearly, they were always going to be living in Clearmont next to her parents.  She needs to be around her momma.

David Poor's daughter is nasty; 100 points to the poster that likened her to Snooki.  Yeah, David's an asshole and terrible, but her beef is with him, not Annie.  She clearly took some pleasure in mouthing off to Annie and thinking she was going to cause issues.  Like father, like daughter.  I feel particularly bad for Jacob b/c he seems like a kid who just wishes his father was a better man.

Elizabeths' sisters and friends were really Tampa trashy (I say this as a Floridian).  Her sisters are bitchy and are assholes.  No matter her experience, Andrei was always going to be mad at her b/c she went and now he has to punish her.  I can't like Andrei (even though he's the least of the terrible on this show) because of his level of innate misogyny.

I can't with Aika and Josh.  They both have mean streaks, and seem like selfish, destructive people.

Nicole and Azan - Yo...these two.   Azan clearly adores May (not on a "he should be her daddy" level), but he CANNOT STAND Nicole.  I've never seen him happier than when he was putting the luggage in the car.  LOL.  Azan's aunt seems like a sweet lady.  

[Desert Rat]

2 hours ago, sainte-chapelle said:

I have two friends who had their first children without issue at 40. The doctor needs to take I down a notch.

I conceived at 38 without even trying.  The doctor is trying to scare then to sell IVF.  But Josh, who can't afford the kids he already has, probably doesn't make in a year what she charges for IVF.  

[mamadrama]

3 hours ago, NinaH said:

Aika needs to get over herself and wanting kids. She's had nearly 20 years to accomplish that and while I think Josh is a loser asshole, this isn't on him.

Why should she give up on it? She isn't even 40 yet and has several years' worth of good reproductive years left. 20 years ago, she would have been 16. I don't think having a child as a teenager is ideal to having one as an adult in her 30s. Perhaps she didn't meet anyone that she wanted to have children with. My mom was 41 when she had me.

[millennium]

4 hours ago, EarlGreyTea said:

 

If there is a hell, Molly's voice is being piped through the loudspeakers 24/7.

I suspect that's where I'm headed because I thought the scenes with Luis were hilarious.   Having shed all pretense of giving a shit, he was free to give Molly exactly what she deserves for picking up a bartender 15 years her junior in the Dominican Republic and bringing him back to the States like a souvenir to be her indentured servant.   The Exorcist chat was priceless.   Luis is crazy like a fox.   I loved it when Molly asked "will you be going home before or after the wedding?," and Luis smiles and says "Yes."   

All Molly cares about is having a live-in babysitter and fuck toy.   Molly couldn't even go out to dinner with him without trying to turn it into a positive reinforcement conditioning session.  "Maybe we can do fun things like this with the girls?   Have more fun with the girls.   Go to the park with the girls."   She has zero empathy for the fact that Luis is 25, freshly ripped from a life of freewheeling independence, and stranded far from home.    And that maybe the last thing on his mind is a lifetime of babysitting.

Nope, no tears for Molly.   I think she's a calculating drama queen.   Did she purposely remove all her makeup to look more pathetic before instructing the ass-cam to follow her up the stairs?

(During the Aika segment I amused myself by superimposing Molly on the fertility specialist: "The problem is your AIGS!")

Worse character of the night:  David Poor.

That selfish, drunken, parasitic bastard.   He left his kids behind, not giving a rat's ass about their lives, then reappears a few years later expecting the same neglected kids to be jazzed about the new developments in HIS life.   Fucking narcissist.

Second worst: Aika, for making Josh feel like a eunuch.   All the taunting, abusive comments about his "manhood."   Does anyone doubt she'd have a shit fit if Josh suggested she's less of a woman because she's ten eggs short of a dozen? 

Edited December 11, 2017 by millennium

[bichonblitz]

3 hours ago, Miss Chevious said:

And he'll need 4 nickels for IVF treatments. Those don't come cheap.

And he doesn't even have a home of his own for Aika and baby Aika. How desperate is Aika for choosing this loser to have a kid with?

[magemaud]

3 hours ago, LocalGovt said:

Molly - that red outfit with an exposed white bra band in the back, and wild red leggings?

Her earrings at the restaurant looked like Kensley might have made them for Mother's Day in some kids' craft class. I really wanted to smack that stoned smirk off of Luis's stupid face. I hope she's really sending him packing. Edited to add: Luis said he wished he was home in the DR, on a beach with A LOT OF MONEY, so it's obvious to me why he came to the US. 

 

3 hours ago, Pastry Chef said:

Andrei says “like” so much, I think he learned English from the Kardashians. 

I had to back up and count when Andrei was confronting Libby about the bachelorette party. He said the word "like" 62 times!

Edited December 11, 2017 by magemaud

[magemaud]

3 hours ago, Cranky One said:

WHAT IS THIS SPECIAL EFFECT THAT DAVID HAS ON WOMEN THAT MAKE THEM WANT TO SLEEP WIYH HIM??

Ashley-Snooki said he often "hooked up with prostitutes." Maybe Chris also paid for them. 

[bichonblitz]

2 hours ago, Neurochick said:

I don’t think David or Luis looks scary, I think both of them look drunk/stoned,

Now that you mention it, Luis definitely looked drunk/stoned with those crazy eyes and shit eating grin. My god, that guy is so creepy. 

Best scene of this episode: Snooki throwing water on Daddy Poor. It filled my heart with glee.

[Miss Chevious]

4 hours ago, PityFree said:

 

ETA:  Someone please explain to me why Molly—the woman who owns a specialty bra fitting shop—is walking around with her white bra hanging out of the back of her open back red shirt. 

She was channeling Blanche Devereaux wearing her red wedding dress each year on her anniversary. (For any GG fans out there, you know what I'm talking about lol).

[HappyDancex2]

15 minutes ago, millennium said:

(During the Aika segment I amused myself by superimposing Molly on the fertility specialist: "The problem is your AIGS!")

 

I hated to snip any of your post which had me rolling but this one really was hilarious.

[magemaud]

2 hours ago, Splithair said:

Not that it matters, but I wonder if David's kids have the same mom? Snooki looks like her dad, but his son didn't look anything like him or his sister. I know that can happen when people have the same parents (obviously), but I was just curious.

I wondered about that, too, but then Ashley said something about "our mother" so I figured it was the same woman. 

[balisticnikki]

28 minutes ago, millennium said:

I suspect that's where I'm headed because I thought the scenes with Luis were hilarious.   Having shed all pretense of giving a shit, he was free to give Molly exactly what she deserves for picking up a bartender 15 years her junior in the Dominican Republic and bringing him back to the States like a souvenir to be her indentured servant.   The Exorcist chat was priceless.   Luis is crazy like a fox.   I loved it when Molly asked "will you be going home before or after the wedding?," and Luis smiles and says "Yes."   

All Molly cares about is having a live-in babysitter and fuck toy.   Molly couldn't even go out to dinner with him without trying to turn it into a positive reinforcement conditioning session.  "Maybe we can do fun things like this with the girls?   Have more fun with the girls.   Go to the park with the girls."   She has zero empathy for the fact that Luis is 25, freshly ripped from a life of freewheeling independence, and stranded far from home.    And that maybe the last thing on his mind is a lifetime of babysitting.

Nope, no tears for Molly.   I think she's a calculating drama queen.   Did she purposely remove all her makeup to look more pathetic before instructing the ass-cam to follow her up the stairs?

(During the Aika segment I amused myself by superimposing Molly on the fertility specialist: "The problem is your AIGS!")

Worse character of the night:  David Poor.

That selfish, drunken, parasitic bastard.   He left his kids behind, not giving a rat's ass about their lives, then reappears a few years later expecting the same neglected kids to be jazzed about the new developments in HIS life.   Fucking narcissist.

Second worst: Aika, for making Josh feel like a eunuch.   All the taunting, abusive comments about his "manhood."   Does anyone doubt she'd have a shit fit if Josh suggested she's less of a woman because she's ten eggs short of a dozen? 

Omg this eas such a funny post. I bolded the gems. Is there anyone not howling with laughter?!

[eggsnbacon]

50 minutes ago, Desert Rat said:

I conceived at 38 without even trying.  The doctor is trying to scare then to sell IVF.  But Josh, who can't afford the kids he already has, probably doesn't make in a year what she charges for IVF.  

100% she was trying to push IVF for her own pocket money.

[ChiCricket]

4 hours ago, hawkhd said:

Molly said Luis is Pentecostal. How common is that in the DR? I was definitely leaning Catholic on him. 

The Pentecostals have been very successful in converting Hispanic Catholics here in Chicago. I imagine they're doing it in the DR too. (out of 14 kids in my husband's family, only he and one sister are still Catholic.)

[AmandaUnbidden]

New to this show. I'm usually over on the teen mom boards but I finally broke down and decided to watch this. The whole time I'm watching it, I'm thinking to myself, why Amanda? lol 

I think I may be in the minority here, but the whole time Bootleg Snooki (love that nickname!) was bitching her dad out, I was cheering her on and when she threw that water on him, I laughed out loud. Was it trashy how she acted? Of course! But look who raised her. David Poor doesn't deserve any better treatment. He's scum, and I felt so bad for his son sitting there with that terribly sad look on his face when David announced he was marrying this chick. I'm also glad she didn't mince words with Annie and let her know exactly the man her father is. She deserves to know the truth before she marries him. I didn't like how gleeful and mean Ashley was though. I know she was lashing out because she was hurt but she also comes off as a shady bitch. She could've told Annie all of those truth bombs in a gentler way. My heart did go out to Annie then.

 

I don't know much about Aika and Josh so no comments on them.

 

Azzan and Nicole: I don't know that Azzan will be able to get a visa that easily. He's absolutely right to be concerned with Trump in office and his Muslim bans. What he doesn't understand is if he doesn't get the visa, it'll be a blessing in disguise. Those two should never happen.

 

David Spain and Evelyn annoy me so much. I don't know why but I can barely stand to watch them. She annoys me the worst. I may have to ff their portions from now on. 

 

Libby and Andrei (sp?), well, I'm still not sure what to think of them. Hate her sisters though, hate them. They and women like them are why some foreigners have the idea that all American women are rich trashy bitches. I don't want to see their stupid faces on my screen anymore. And I'm not sure Andrei is that bad of a guy. I'd have to see more to see if he's really that controlling or just has conservative values. I do love that he didn't have a problem when her dad said he wouldn't pay for the wedding or help them financially. He was just like, no problem, I'm fine on my own. 

 

Oh crap, I forgot about Luis and Molly. I was so happy to see her finally seeming to get it. If she marries him, then I agree that she deserves what she gets. She is not putting her children first of she goes through with it. And I'm not a violent person, but I swear, I wanted to throat punch Luis when he was smirking at Molly, who was obviously very distraught. Molly, pack his bags and let him find his own way back to the DR. He's a slimy sob!

Edited December 11, 2017 by AmandaUnbidden
Forgot about Luis and Molly

[bethster2000]

1 hour ago, TrininisaScorp said:

Tampa trashy

LOL.  And I was just going to post that Josh is Typical Mesa, Arizona Trash.   Sometimes you just have to make those regional references.

[balisticnikki]

So they're replaying the first epidode now. And Nikki (Chris's wife) looks sooooooo different. Barefaced?? I knew something had changed.

[CofCinci]

38 minutes ago, AmandaUnbidden said:

think I may be in the minority here, but the whole time Bootleg Snooki (love that nickname!) was bitching her dad out, I was cheering her on and when she threw that water on him, I laughed out loud. Was it trashy how she acted? Of course! But look who raised her. David Poor doesn't deserve any better treatment. He's scum, and I felt so bad for his son sitting there with that terribly sad look on his face when David announced he was marrying this chick. I'm also glad she didn't mince words with Annie and let her know exactly the man her father is. She deserves to know the truth before she marries him. I didn't like how gleeful and mean Ashley was though. I know she was lashing out because she was hurt but she also comes off as a shady bitch. She could've told Annie all of those truth bombs in a gentler way. My heart did go out to Annie then.

I’m with you.

If David honestly cared about mending the relationship with his children, he could have met for dinner without Annie. The more he forces Annie on them, the more resistance he’ll face. 

[Lizzing]

2 hours ago, eggsnbacon said:

The Doctor also explained it very incorrectly, most women have enough eggs at Aikas age, you are born with all of your eggs and its usually around 2,000,000 eggs. After teen years you end up with about 400,000 eggs during  really fertile years.  By the time you are 38, women have around 25,000+ and yes those eggs are older but.....Aika isn't too old yet. She still has enough eggs.

ITA that the doctor was ridiculous and incorrect.  She said a woman of Aika's age is losing "thousands of eggs per day".  Thousands must be at a minimum 2,000 per day, so if a woman has said 25,000 eggs at 38, she's clean out of them in 12.5 days.  That is just bad info from the doctor or she's shit at math, either way not someone to be trusted with important decisions.  Totally in it for taking IVF money where not needed.

1 hour ago, Desert Rat said:

Fun fact, Aika, a  man who has had a vasectomy is no less a man, no damage to manhood. I should know, my husband had one about 15 years ago.  

Well, maybe Aika was taught about vasectomies by Lydia, the idiot from RHOOC, who spent last season confusing vasectomies with castrations. LOL!

I'm kinda on Ashley's side, though her rage should be 100% directed at dead beat David.   I mean, the whole abandonment of the family (which, according to her, started well before the divorce) AND being saddled with looking like him and having his same build?  Sure, the womanly hips are more apropos on her, but damn, that's a lot to be saddled with.

I don't buy the Libby/sisters/Andrei storyline one bit.  It all reads as fake, fake, fakey fake.

[Desert Rat]

4 hours ago, Forum member said:

Having no vasectomy experience, I'd have to think there's some sperm lurking in his balls. Could they shove a needle in there and extract some without doing a reversal?

Yes. That's why doc mentioned IVF.  But there is no loss of "manhood."  That comment was just Aika being a bitch

[Desert Rat]

4 hours ago, sconstant said:

Money?

Only if you count Chris's money.  

[alegtostandon]

I am so afraid that Molly's pride is stronger than her love for her kids...and herself & she ends up marrying that creepy, crazy guy.  She would have to admit to her kids and to her dad that they were right. 

Her kids were downstairs while this argument was going on...I'm sure they were standing at the bottom of the stairs cheering their mom on. 

WTF brought up all of that religious talk about no bibles, owls, candles, etc? It was like the demons he talked about had possessed him.  When she brought up porn she found on his phone & the strip clubs, all he said was "I like that". The way he was talking and acting was actually scary.

I despise "Flappy Lip's" sisters! How old are they that they still need to go clubbing? I'm still trying to see this "Fun Libby" that they're all going to miss so much. They were trying to act so innocent but it was so obvious they did all of that to get a rise. Why else would they send him a message saying they were taking her phone & sign off with 'see you later, sucker'.

I've not seen Azin smile as much as he did when Nicole walked thru that gate...to leave Morocco.

Dumpy DoughBoy David...no words except "Run Anna Run!".

[Desert Rat]

3 hours ago, Forum member said:

For everyone who hates Luis, let him marry Molly. That's punishment. 

No, Nicole, let him marry Nicole.  Nicole is more suitable punishment, and Nicole deserves the punishment of living with Luis. 

[kewpiedolls]

That argument between Luis and Molly was really something. His plan worked and you could see the satisfaction in his face when Molly stormed out of the room. She really lost it. I think Luis is actually smarter than he lets on. 

I hated Elizabeth's sisters so much that I ended up skipping through all of her segments. They need to grow up. Elizabeth having to get her outfits approved by Andrei was bullshit. 

For someone who so desperately longs to have children and has nothing medically wrong with her, you would think that Aika would've had one in her 20s or early 30s. But I agree that the doctor was being over-the-top with her.

The preview- I think long sleeve wedding dresses are pretty, but that neckline is a no. Also I think strapless would suit Evelyn better.

Edited December 11, 2017 by kewpiedolls
correcting grammar

[Lola43]

I don't blame Ashley for speaking her peace. 

I had the same kind of father. Except mine worked and didn't need anyone to support him. Anyway, five kids with different women and then raised someone else's kids while ignoring his own.  I had a conversation with him about it and all he did was shrug his shoulders. 

 

I hope she feels better letting that out but it will change nothing. 

 

I don't feel bad for Annie. She needed to hear that. 

Edited December 11, 2017 by Lola43
Trying to get rid of the highlighted text.

[mamadrama]

1 hour ago, alegtostandon said:

 

WTF brought up all of that religious talk about no bibles, owls, candles, etc? It was like the demons he talked about had possessed him.  When she brought up porn she found on his phone & the strip clubs, all he said was "I like that". The way he was talking and acting was actually scary.

 

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that Luis wasn't drunk/stoned/looking for an excuse to leave. Let's say that the whole religious spiel was always lurking under the surface and would've come out eventually. Treating her children horribly (even though I find both of her kids bratty, it still doesn't excuse his actions and attitude), treating Molly with disrespect, etc and then blaming HIS actions and attitude on HER because of the decorations in her house? And then almost literally going on a "witchhunt" with her, accusing her of Satanism as a justification for his actions? That is one short stop of religious abuse and that's scary. 

 

Molly, you in danger, girl. 

 

I know, it's partly her fault. She DID practice poor judgment in almost every aspect of where Luis is concerned. Still, that gaslighting shit burns me up. Been through it, still trying to sort myself out 15 years later, and don't like seeing it happen to someone else. 

 

I would pack his bags and send him and his little fakely pious, gaslighting, disrespectful, inappropriate, gold-digging, stripper drooling, sanky panky, douchebaggery fuckery back to the DR. Coach. With at least 3 flight changes. And a 12-hour stopover someplace-and not anywhere cool or where it would be convenient for him to get out and do something. That ought to wipe that little shit-eating grin off his face. 

Edited December 11, 2017 by mamadrama

[Lily247]

6 hours ago, CoachWristletJen said:

David wanted his kids there as props. He had no interest in their pain, their feelings, or working anything out with them.

Ashely probably spoke up because she figured for once, he had to listen to her.

David couldn't be the least bit patient or kind to diffuse her anger, either. He just got pissed off because she wasn't complying. He probably expected that because his kids were on camera, they would be polite and make him look good.

For Ashley, the intensity of her hurt was more important than what the world thought of her. She made that abundantly clear.

Yeah, I agree, despite her extreme crassness, she probably has every right to be upset with her father. 

I didnt feel one bit sorry for Annie. What were her expectations ? The whole situation between her and David is gross and very clear she is a user (he is using her too, as a maid and sex package). A 24 year old woman marrying 48 year old man for a green card who has kids older than her, who demanded thousands and thousands of dollars from a man who clearly doesnt help the family the kids he already has, including a teenage son ... she knows they all see through her and will not have an ounce of respect for her. This isnt really about American culture vs Thai culture. I dont imagine there is an equivalent in Thai culture to having your older dad marrying a very young woman from an impoverished country to give her a green card, so Annie cant really compare. (Or if there is, probably not in her village). 

[Real Eyes]

6 hours ago, sainte-chapelle said:

I think there is an undercurrent of something else going on with Andrei. I think where he is from women who dance at clubs and drink are fair game, whether they want to be or not. I could be wrong but in Andrei's line of work he has likely seen things that he does not wish for Libby to experience. Not in any way saying that this line of thinking is okay but It might be the reality.

No, it’s not that they are fair game. Rape is relatively rare in that part of the world though sexual harassment is common in the workplace. 

 

It is that women who are mothers and wives don’t go to clubs. 

[Bubbles1967]

6 hours ago, balisticnikki said:

I feel badly for her to a point. But she is 28 yrs old. He's only been in Thailand for 4 yrs. After 18, parents really don't owe you anything, esp not day-to-day contact. It's time for her to cut her losses & get over being mad.

Didn’t she say her brother was 14 when he left? The son specifically said he had no real relationship with his dad and that he’s been in and out of his life. 

I can understand why the son would be mad. You can see in his demeanor that he didn’t seemed to care about seeing David. He probably fought for his dads attention for so long and finally said fuck it when David left. I don’t blame him

Edited December 11, 2017 by Bubbles1967

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

The real question with Aika is WHY is she SO desperate ? What is her relationship history ? She's pretty, bright etc. Decent English. 

I secretly (oh and I'm going to hell for this one)  had been getting teency gender reassignment/trans vibes from her so the gyn cleared that up this week at least! 

[Bryce Lynch]

9 hours ago, Miss Chevious said:

If having children was so important to Aika why the hell did she wait till she's 36 to find someone to marry? She acts like she's never heard of a woman's biological clock before. What the hell was she doing in her twenties? There wasn't a single man in the Philippines (or anywhere else) that wasn't a suitable mate? 

I think it is common, these days, for women to put off motherhood, waiting for the right man and the right situation, and then finding themselves running out of time.  

[tincansailor981]

6 hours ago, mamadrama said:

Because Libby is a complainer and a shit stirrer. She doesn't confront anyone to their face; instead, she complains about them behind their backs (Andrei doesn't want me to go out, my dad is upset with you, my sisters are making me go with them, etc.) and then plays people against each other. 

Nailed it!  This describes Libby LipStick to a tee

[Bryce Lynch]

9 hours ago, kacesq said:

Maybe Josh and Aika could have had this important serious discussion about children and how to have them before they applied for the visa? Damn, all these couples who skip over the stuff that really matters to live in the fantasy.

When you get engaged after 5 days you are probably going to neglect to discuss an important issue or two.

[SL16]

10 hours ago, kacesq said:

Maybe Josh and Aika could have had this important serious discussion about children and how to have them before they applied for the visa? Damn, all these couples who skip over the stuff that really matters to live in the fantasy.

I love how he acts like she is "blaming him" for him not being able to get her pregnant. Dude, you're sterile! It IS your "fault." You are unable to impregnate her. I don't see how this simple fact is somehow blaming him for something. Also, if she wanted to get pregnant maybe that's something that should have been discussed BEFORE you picked up your entire life and hitched your wagon to a sterile loser, Aika.

Edited December 11, 2017 by SL16