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ThinkerBell
ThinkerBell

I had hopes for Mother-of-Paul being a voice of reason until she slipped him a handful of her hair in a wadded Kleenex.

islandgal140
islandgal140

Is TLC growing these people in a lab because I am finding it harder and harder to believe that they could so easily be out in gen pop like this. To call this a trainwreck or garbage can fire is an ins

Dobian
Dobian

To the 47 year old guy who is competing against the 64 year old guy for the 20 year old Haiti chick - dude, you have no chance, the 64 year old guy is closer to death.

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Teddybear

Teddybear

Myriam didn't go to the airport to say goodbye and it was his birthday!!! (I missed that the first time around).  That is not a mixed message, Patrick!  

Jenny seems like one of those perpetually cranky people; I don't think anything would make her happy.  Granted, we're probably not seeing her best self with Larry, but she just seems miserable all the time.  

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Arwen Evenstar

Arwen Evenstar

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   ON 10/25/2017 AT 6:42 AM,  TINCANSAILOR981 SAID: 

I'm curious about that too and would like to know exactly what Muslims look like?

In Eastern Europe, many Muslims have fair skin, hair, and light colored eyes, so the answer could be, ‘they can look just like everyone else’.  In other countries where Muslims are the minority population, unless they are in traditional dress, you just might never know unless they volunteered that information or you asked. 

Also, a Muslim has a Muslim name given to him/her at birth, or chooses one for himself/ herself upon conversion. A dear Muslim friend who married a Christian told me that when they named their only daughter, his wish was she have a Muslim name (even though he was largely secular and agnostic at the time), so she wouldn’t have to change it if she chose to take the faith.  They chose a Muslim name for her that sounded more American/ European.  She chose Christianity and her father supported her choice 100% because he had always wanted her to choose what she felt was right for her.

Miriyam is a Muslim name as well as a Hebrew name, due to the Abrahamic origins of both faiths. Miriyam was the sister of Moses; Moses is regarded as a prophet in Islam. Ibrahim And Youssef are Arabic names derived from Abraham and Joseph.

Sorry for ramblings but I hope I shed some light on things from my own experience with wonderful Muslim friends who were kind enough to share with me.

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tincansailor981

tincansailor981

1 hour ago, Teddybear said:

Myriam didn't go to the airport to say goodbye and it was his birthday!!! (I missed that the first time around).  That is not a mixed message, Patrick!  

No, it isn't a mixed message at all.  Of all the doofus dudes on this train wreck of a show, he's got the most sense and that's scary.   I'm actually hoping his dope of a would be girlfriend gives dude a chance even though I know it won't happen.

tincansailor981

tincansailor981

8 minutes ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

   ON 10/25/2017 AT 6:42 AM,  TINCANSAILOR981 SAID: 

I'm curious about that too and would like to know exactly what Muslims look like?

In Eastern Europe, many Muslims have fair skin, hair, and light colored eyes, so the answer could be, ‘they can look just like everyone else’.  In other countries where Muslims are the minority population, unless they are in traditional dress, you just might never know unless they volunteered that information or you asked. 

My point being unless the person dressed or acted a certain way, like kneelng for prayers throughout the day, "they" do look like everyone else.

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Arwen Evenstar

Arwen Evenstar

10 minutes ago, tincansailor981 said:

My point being unless the person dressed or acted a certain way, like kneelng for prayers throughout the day, "they" do look like everyone else.

I was pretty sure you might have meant it that way. I’m a Brit, so I’ve often asked similar questions in retort as I smack my head when people say some silly things. 

My post was meant more for inquiring minds who might want to know, but may have been afraid to ask.

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MrHufflepuff

MrHufflepuff

3 hours ago, Kangatush said:

Actually on Monday there's a tell all episode according to my DVR, don't miss it, but it should be the reunion type show.  Which I'm guessing might include a lot of Skype, since I have no idea how they'd get all the couples physically in the same room.

There's also a preview up on the TLC site, if you want to spoil yourself a little bit.

Mr. Miner

Mr. Miner

12 hours ago, Teddybear said:

Myriam didn't go to the airport to say goodbye and it was his birthday!!! (I missed that the first time around).  That is not a mixed message, Patrick!  

Jenny seems like one of those perpetually cranky people; I don't think anything would make her happy.  Granted, we're probably not seeing her best self with Larry, but she just seems miserable all the time.  

That's not cranky, that's disgust. She finally gets a guy to the Phillipines and it's dullard Larry.

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booboopbedoo

booboopbedoo

On 25/10/2017 at 11:22 AM, deedee2 said:
On 25/10/2017 at 10:32 AM, Arwen Evenstar said:

Absolutely, but a 20 year old lacks the maturity to understand this intellectually, let alone emotionally.  She’s got  a bad case for Chris. She REALLY is “all in” and hoping because all these other men want her, that he will come to his senses.

Really? I don't get that sense. Yes, she has more chemistry with Chris than with Sean, but Chris is, like, 45 years older than her. If she's "all in", it's got to be because he's been "generous" with her. He looks wealthier and more sophisticated than Sean, and can probably offer Abby more of what she wants ... except a green card. Abby is super calculating.

They are both disgusting old farts. I think she is pretty street smart for her age and is getting what she wants. Now she has to decide if she can settle for Sean and give up Chris and his money and gifts. Being poor and from Haiti she wants out and I am sure she has been well used from an early age. It goes back to why she was in DR at all when she met Chris?? Richer men maybe?

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ethalfrida

ethalfrida

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On 10/27/2017 at 6:21 AM, booboopbedoo said:

They are both disgusting old farts. I think she is pretty street smart for her age and is getting what she wants. Now she has to decide if she can settle for Sean and give up Chris and his money and gifts. Being poor and from Haiti she wants out and I am sure she has been well used from an early age. It goes back to why she was in DR at all when she met Chris?? Richer men maybe?

I can't say if she was well used in any sense but she certainly does have street smarts. She is smooth and lets out just the right amount of reaction from what I've seen. Good Lord, Haiti is one of the poorest nations on earth and one had better learn what to do in order to survive. there are people who can play hard, get what they want and never give up parts of themselves if they don't want to. Most of us can't do that.

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Bibi

Bibi

On ‎25‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 10:25 AM, AZChristian said:

You've stated a lot of things as though they were facts . . . and unless you are Patrick, Myriam, or Patrick's mother, I'm not sure how you would know anything for sure.

One example is the sentence I quoted above.  The editing may have made it LOOK  this way, but we don't know this to be a fact.  And even if it were, let's say that Patrick talks to Myriam on Monday and says, "I'm coming to Paris on Thursday to meet you and spend time with you.  I'll be there for _____________ (length of time).  All Myriam has to say is, "I am Muslim; I have a boyfriend.  Do not come.  I will not spend time with you."

Many of us who watch reality shows have come to accept the strong arm of editing in what we see.  We learned that some of these 90-day couples are pretty much using the show as a means of getting publicity (Jesse and Darcey, Molly and Luis).  Even Patrick has been on several TV shows.  Being on TV is a lot more fun than having a real job.  I'm in the group who feels that Patrick and Myriam are also a set-up, but that's my opinion; I don't know that for a fact.

I know it from what  Myriam herself said a couple of weeks ago.  That Patrick informed her a few days before. She also said she was not into her father's traditions and that her brother was a little more traditional than she was. I agree she could have told him "don't come" but maybe he had purchased the plane ticket and she felt guilty about that, or maybe he was pushy or maybe she changed her mind when he arrived shirtless and back flipping in Paris or maybe the entire story is staged.

For the rest we are not in the spoiler thread so obviously whatever we may be stating here is our belief, based on the 12episodes, and we may be right or wrong. If we were meant to talk about things we know to be facts ONLY, guess what we would have nothing to discuss here. Saying that Jesse uses the show as a means of getting publicity is an assumption as well,  unless you are Jesse. 

Bibi

Bibi

On ‎26‎/‎10‎/‎2017 at 9:47 PM, tincansailor981 said:

My point being unless the person dressed or acted a certain way, like kneelng for prayers throughout the day, "they" do look like everyone else.

I'm not talking about her looks. I'm more about the mindset.

There's a difference between I have a catholic background and I'm churchy.

Same thing, having an Algerian and probably Muslim father doesn't mean one is actually religious but people tend to assume you are when your name is ...or you family is from....

Coming from a muslim family it's hardly acceptable to be  on TV like   "I'm flirting with 2 guys and it's  Ok",   unless your muslim family is really open or you don't practice the religion  which I find logical since she said she was not into traditions. I doubt religion would be important enough to her to be a deal breaker, if she were religious at all.

 

Ps: A little black dress +Adidas shoes are absolutely trendy  on Instagram

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Frozendiva

Frozendiva

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Neither Karine nor Jenny seemed thrilled with the marriage proposals that they received. Whether they like it or not, the two dudes are their ticket out. It must be bad there. Don’t recall if Jenny has ever called Larry anything but ‘love’.

Sean, you are facing sharing Abby with Chris.

Antonio, you finally have your home back! Cortney, sometimes people do come back. You had a nice time/fling with a European dude and it will take up a small display in the museum of your loves.

Jesse is smart to not be pressured in to marriage at 24.

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HappyDancex2

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It's sad to think that Karine's worst fear is that it was all a ruse and he won't come back.  Yikes.   And it's even worse that they have this relationship and can't even have a conversation with each other.  In comparison,  Larry and Jenny look sane.

Corny.  No words.  Hey Corny....watching you has felt like 2 years for us too girl.

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Standard Staples

Standard Staples

2 minutes ago, Sprockets said:

Didnt he prove that by writing "marry me" in a language Karine doesn,t understand inside a chain someone else had left in the sand?  

He didn't even move it himself. He had the poor concierge slinging that old rust bucket around.

"Hey, that nasty old chain kind of looks like a heart. This is where we start our life together."

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Sprockets

Sprockets

1 minute ago, HappyDancex2 said:

 

It's sad to think that Karine's worst fear is that it was all a ruse and he won't come back

 

She needs to get the hell out of there.  I totally get it.  And now that she has his hair she can make sure he returns by making a little doll out of it.  She can lie to the doll, hide her criminal past and betray its trust, over and over. . . .

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WhatsUpDummy

WhatsUpDummy

I would’ve thought that the guys would get less awkward the more time they spend with these girls. But Larry and Paul are just as awkward and weird on their last day as they were on their first day. I feel so badly for these girls who are so desperate for a new life that they’re willing to attach themselves to these sketchy losers. 

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Caseysgirl

Caseysgirl

This show is the best!! Both guys and Myriam looked so relieved  to get their "guests" out of the country.  Loved Jesse's crocodile tears as he practically pushed her and her huge luggage cart toward the exit and she couldn't stop staring back at him.   If this is all just for screen time for their products, she is a much better actress. I'm not psychologist but if Abby's expressions and eyes rolling didn't tell us everything we need to know about how she feels about Sean.  She is one great business woman though; she must have enough stock to have her own Nordstrom's Rack in Haiti. I have to say, Karine must really be desperate to get out of Brazil. She's already expressed reservations about trusting Paul and that hair and all his bizarre behavior must be a clue.  Not one f these couples look likely to make it through the 90 days in the U.S.

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Bellalisa

Bellalisa

I don' understand how Sean is calling this clothes thing a business. Even if he is getting the clothing really really cheap, on clearance, or overruns, it has to be sold very cheap in Haiti. No one in Haiti has any money. It's not like you can buy clothing in the US, sell it to Haitians and make a profit. Of course Abby is making a profit because she isn't paying for the clothes. She is paying with sex. She is doing the same with Chris. When Sean asked "What can Chris do that we can't do just as well the two of us?" well the answer is MORE INVENTORY=MORE MONEY for her family. Why is she going to turn down inventory? The more she has, the more she can make.

This is a good business Abby has. The more American men she can get to bring her inventory, the better she makes out for herself and her family.  It would be stupid to cut Chris off.

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sainte-chapelle

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I am sorry but momma Patrick need to STFU and leave Miriam alone. Patrick is grown and should be focused on his child instead of running off to Paris. Momma strikes me as the type that feels her baby boy can do no wrong and all of his mistakes are the fault of others and not her precious baby boy.

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