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12 minutes ago, LGGirl said:

Danielle is a few bricks shy of a load.   You got to feel sorry for her kids and all the drama she brings into their lives. 

My money is on Mohammad telling the judge he is gay and will be tortured in Tunisia if he goes back just to stay here.  Loved it when Danielle did not go save him.  Just shows what a user he is.  

Russ us just a nice guy and deserves better.  

It's about freaking time she said no to him!  And I hope she was lying about having to get to work. 

Makes you wonder if production was following him or if they heard he rain out of gas and quickly went to his location? lol   And you know darn well they helped him get gas.  

OR the entire thing was just fake. 

 

and that scene with Anifsa and what's his face when he picked her up after shopping.... that was the worst acting ever lol 

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5 hours ago, Hellohappylife said:

Too me just because Chantel paid a lot of money for Pedro to be in the US doesn't automatically make her the controller of money. A lot of these couples go back in forth arguing on who Gave up the most & sacrificed more to be together. That's not now how it works, you can't keep resenting one another,it's not healthy at all ,it shows their insecurities & almost makes me feel like these people regret getting married.

They all knew damn well what they were getting into ,when they signed those marriage license. It's suppose to be a life long commitment  of love, not a life life competition of who gave up more.

I didn't say Chantel should control the money.  I said they should talk about it and decide together how it is spent.  No one should make a decree and say THIS is what I am doing and you have no say.  That is what I think is happening but we don't know for sure until the next episode.  

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What happened to the R8 George?

I'm totally with Anfisa now. At least she's been honest and upfront all along with what she wanted. He's (as suspected) a total poser. Blowing what money you had to impress a superficial, low-class wannabe Kardashian? He deserves everything he gets. I hope she spends every last penny he has.

But as noted upthread - why does he take her to all these stores he can't afford? To impress the cameras? It just pisses her off and makes him look like more of a fool than he already does.

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20 minutes ago, gunderda said:

It's about freaking time she said no to him!  And I hope she was lying about having to get to work. 

Makes you wonder if production was following him or if they heard he rain out of gas and quickly went to his location? lol   And you know darn well they helped him get gas.  

OR the entire thing was just fake. 

 

and that scene with Anifsa and what's his face when he picked her up after shopping.... that was the worst acting ever lol 

I just posted something re: this, in the small talk thread. that I dont know if it's old news to you, but I was like "whaaaaaat?"

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Question - what is the time lapse between the sit down tell all and the taping of this show?

Danielle - I  FF her scenes and Moobs as well. I just can't deal with their stupidity anymore.

Chantel & Pedro - again snooze.  FF their scenes.

Loren and Alexi - FF them too.

I can't believe that Afasia didn't know that Jorge was a) not a millionaire till now and b) in some sort of debt.  Remember - this was the woman who had his passwords and logins for his phone and emails.  This was the lady that cancelled his ticket to Russia.  The idiot to show off would have allowed her access to everything else from the beginning. Plus she would have insisted.  My guess is that they are doing this for the exposure, stretching out their 15 mins of fame and the TLC paycheck. 

I wish they would have included Goober and Alla. At least they would have been a tad more interesting than the couples I mentioned I FF their scenes. I really feel that this show has run its course and TLC is hanging it on as it doesn't have any new material.  Maybe they should start filming couples who are going through divorces.  Might make for more interesting trash teevee.   

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14 hours ago, sainte-chapelle said:

She said she thought he was being cheap, I think she is more niave than she lets on. Her talking about a post nuptial agreement? More clever than I would give her credit for and Jorge going on the defensive about it proves he is more of a deceitful person than portrayed last season.  Jorge is no victim, Anfisa is trapped and he knows it hence the whole 'if you want a post nuptial then leave'. He is as much of a snake as she is, even more so.

I believe the story line is written by the producers to advance the show....they will drag this drama out as long as the show continues to grow in audience and publicity.  Don't all the couples individually get paid well for each show??  None of the couples seem to have a reliable cash flow outside the revenue they collect from the show.

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4 hours ago, jacksgirl said:

Oklahoma is my adopted state and need to take one sec to defend it. Much money and effort has gone into renovating a downtown area called Bricktown. There are many shops, restaurants, clubs to walk to. OKC boasts an NBA team too. Don't know much about the Hispanic community, although I would think there would be some fun Latin American friends for Pao,  there are more in Miami for sure, but OKC does have a night life.That being said, Russ is such a sad sack, and who pays $450. (Tip???) for a cut and color? These two need to split now before Russ gets hurt more.

good god, I missed that - $450.00 to make Paola a bleached blonde? That's insane. She is NOT married. Her husband thinks he is, but she is NOT. She's probably a worse user than Anfisa. At least Anfisa made a bargain and appeared to keep up her end of it. Paola doesn't even pretend to care and thinks nothing of letting poor schmuck Russ live in an another state and pay her outrageous bills while she gets it on with her boyfriend. IMO, Paola is way worse than Anfisa. And I'll bet Russ isn't a convicted felon who lied to his imported bride about it, the way Jorge is.

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p.s. It's truly amazing how many of these Americans jump right into marrying someone from another culture while knowing virtually squat about how that culture works - what's expected and what's acceptable - and then are shocked when that culture is very different from the usual American way of life and they're faced with some little detail that they don't want (like sending chunks of money to a foreign country for their beloved import's relatives to live off of.)

Have we had a case yet where the American spouse is fully expected to actually bring over the immediate family of the foreign spouse? Because i know a couple of those IRL and it can be a real disaster - especially when the American spouse did not understand before the wedding that that would be expected.

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Like Jorges family said - You paid for someone to spread their legs for you.

I guess he thought Anfisa would fall in love with his sweaty rolls and boobs when she got her. Oh! And his sparkling personality.

Pao is a user and knew what she was doing all along. Who is paying the credit card bills? Modelling career at 30 years old? Maybe some pin up work or perhaps Porn will pay the bills.

 

I watched Mo and knew her would call Dani and suck up to her and ask to be friends. And she will!!

College??? You cant even speak English or read properly!

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13 hours ago, Pfj99 said:

I can't believe I'm mostly siding with Anfisa, but Jorge did explicitly deceive her.  If he traveled throughout Europe spending as if he were rich, I bet he's more than $30,000 in debt.  Every time she's  asked a variant of "Can't you afford this ring/purse/house..." he's given an evasive non-answer.  Assuming Anfisa has at least half a brain, she must have figured out by now that he isn't rich.  Why didn't she just return to Russia and find herself a better money source?  Why marry Jorge, since she obviously can't stand him?  Is it possible that a second k-1 visa wouldn't be granted?

My guess on this is a hell no!  LOL  That is very transparent.  

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1 hour ago, greekmom said:

Question - what is the time lapse between the sit down tell all and the taping of this show?

Danielle - I  FF her scenes and Moobs as well. I just can't deal with their stupidity anymore.

Chantel & Pedro - again snooze.  FF their scenes.

Loren and Alexi - FF them too.

I can't believe that Afasia didn't know that Jorge was a) not a millionaire till now and b) in some sort of debt.  Remember - this was the woman who had his passwords and logins for his phone and emails.  This was the lady that cancelled his ticket to Russia.  The idiot to show off would have allowed her access to everything else from the beginning. Plus she would have insisted.  My guess is that they are doing this for the exposure, stretching out their 15 mins of fame and the TLC paycheck. 

I wish they would have included Goober and Alla. At least they would have been a tad more interesting than the couples I mentioned I FF their scenes. I really feel that this show has run its course and TLC is hanging it on as it doesn't have any new material.  Maybe they should start filming couples who are going through divorces.  Might make for more interesting trash teevee.   

I know! Goober was worth easily 2 pages of snark per week.

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2 hours ago, Jennifersdc said:

But as noted upthread - why does he take her to all these stores he can't afford?

He pretends he can afford it and when they get there he has a sudden attack of cash flow problem. He just can't come up with $15K cash right now.

"I might have misled her a little bit" is the new "she is big a little bit"

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1 hour ago, Landlord said:

Re: Mo calling Danielle when he ran out of gas, my thought was, why not call his BFF Walmart Tom? Wal Mart Tom would have went out of his way to help Mo.

Man I was also hoping Walmart Tom would show up!

With the whole house hunting the only thing that bugged me is if he told the lady something under $5000, and she takes him to a place that's over that...I would be finding someone who would *listen* to what I had to say.  I'm sure it was TLC driven but still that bugged me.

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1 hour ago, Landlord said:

Re: Mo calling Danielle when he ran out of gas, my thought was, why not call his BFF Walmart Tom? Wal Mart Tom would have went out of his way to help Mo.

That's exactly what I thought too. My guess is producers told him to call her.

17 minutes ago, Toaster Strudel said:

"I might have misled her a little bit" is the new "she is big a little bit"

That's awesome. Thanks for my chuckle of the day.

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Paola does not give a single shit about Russ. She has delusions of grandeur thinking she's going to be a rich and famous model. It's not going to happen.  She's too old to start now.  Modeling agencies like their girls to start out super young like 18-20.   Pao needs to stop listening to the BS her agent is giving her.  As long as Pao keeps paying her,  the agent is gonna keep on encouraging her. 

I don't think Loren and whats his name could afford to live in NYC. I don't know how she did it the first time. Unless they both have great jobs we don't know about. 

Anfisa- dump fatass and go find a rich  LA sugar daddy. I don't think love fits in to her priorities so it should be simple for her to move on. 

$450 is not alot in Miami to pay when you are taking black hair to blonde. It takes hours and a lot of skill on the stylists part.  Being that Pao's hair is so dark, her roots will start showing in a matter of weeks, she will be at the salon endlessly. That gets old really, really fast. 

For the record, I wouldn't wash my hair with the same product (vinegar) that I use to clean my tile floors and appliances with. Just sayin'.

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1 hour ago, okerry said:

p.s. It's truly amazing how many of these Americans jump right into marrying someone from another culture while knowing virtually squat about how that culture works - what's expected and what's acceptable - and then are shocked when that culture is very different from the usual American way of life and they're faced with some little detail that they don't want (like sending chunks of money to a foreign country for their beloved import's relatives to live off of.)

Have we had a case yet where the American spouse is fully expected to actually bring over the immediate family of the foreign spouse? Because i know a couple of those IRL and it can be a real disaster - especially when the American spouse did not understand before the wedding that that would be expected.

Right?!? If I were interested in dating or were actually dating or engaged to a woman from another country, I would spend time learning her language (assuming it's not English) and learning about her culture and society. I think it would really be interesting to do those things and would make any time you spend together more fun and would help build your relationship. I've decided that if reincarnation is a thing, this is what I'm doing in my next life to find a wife (just without the being-on-TV part).

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I agree with most of y'all about Jorge... why does he even take her to these expensive stores or entertain that he can even kinda maintain this lifestyle if he can't. I don't necessarily blame anfisa as most of you said, at least she was upfront, but I also don't believe that is license to be a raging bitch most of the time.  She holds responsibility in this too, she married him, was she really that naive to his money problems? While I personally wouldn't marry for money, I'm self sufficient... if I ever get married though you best believe I'm going to know his financial situation... not necessarily to know if he has money but more to know what I'm getting into, does he have a spending problem? Bankruptcies? Etc. yes Jorge mislead her, but he's not that great of a liar and if money was *this* important to her she really should have done her research before getting married.

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1 hour ago, bichonblitz said:

Paola does not give a single shit about Russ. She has delusions of grandeur thinking she's going to be a rich and famous model. It's not going to happen.  She's too old to start now.  Modeling agencies like their girls to start out super young like 18-20.   Pao needs to stop listening to the BS her agent is giving her.  As long as Pao keeps paying her,  the agent is gonna keep on encouraging her. 

I don't think Loren and whats his name could afford to live in NYC. I don't know how she did it the first time. Unless they both have great jobs we don't know about. 

Anfisa- dump fatass and go find a rich  LA sugar daddy. I don't think love fits in to her priorities so it should be simple for her to move on. 

$450 is not alot in Miami to pay when you are taking black hair to blonde. It takes hours and a lot of skill on the stylists part.  Being that Pao's hair is so dark, her roots will start showing in a matter of weeks, she will be at the salon endlessly. That gets old really, really fast. 

For the record, I wouldn't wash my hair with the same product (vinegar) that I use to clean my tile floors and appliances with. Just sayin'.

Re:vinegar. I rinse my hair with vinegar at least once a week. It leaves it incredibly soft and shiny and the smell goes away after it dries. I also use beer and lemon juice. I rinse my laundry with it, too. Better than fabric softener.

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3 hours ago, okerry said:

Russ live in an another state and pay her outrageous bills

Russ doesn't have a job.  He is trying to sell his house because he is broke.  Paola went to Miami initially because she can find work there.  Just not seeing what Russ is bringing to the relationship, other than being some beige long-suffering sad sack with a bunch of judgmental humorless family and friends.

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20 minutes ago, bethster2000 said:

Russ doesn't have a job.  He is trying to sell his house because he is broke.  Paola went to Miami initially because she can find work there.  Just not seeing what Russ is bringing to the relationship, other than being some beige long-suffering sad sack with a bunch of judgmental humorless family and friends.

 The thing is that he quit his job because she whined about how much he was gone. He was making a good living and could have provided for her quite well until she found a career track she enjoyed. Now he's broke and she's bitching about that. To top it all off, she acts like she can't see a reason to stay with him because he's unemployed and broke! She created this situation and now she should have to live with it. She probably won't, though. She probably already has a side piece in Miami.

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 Just not seeing what Russ is bringing to the relationship, other than being some beige long-suffering sad sack with a bunch of judgmental humorless family and friends.

 

Pao knew who Russ and his family were and that they were "beige" before she married him.

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1 hour ago, MrSmith said:

 The thing is that he quit his job because she whined about how much he was gone. He was making a good living and could have provided for her quite well until she found a career track she enjoyed. Now he's broke and she's bitching about that. To top it all off, she acts like she can't see a reason to stay with him because he's unemployed and broke! She created this situation and now she should have to live with it. She probably won't, though. She probably already has a side piece in Miami.

He didn't quit his job. He said he was either laid off or fired (can't remember which) and that his line of work is really location specific and not a lot of positions, so it's taking him forever to find a new position. 

He worked in oil or fracking. 

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19 minutes ago, lilsadone said:

He didn't quit his job. He said he was either laid off or fired (can't remember which) and that his line of work is really location specific and not a lot of positions, so it's taking him forever to find a new position. 

He worked in oil or fracking. 

Well, that may be. I know she was hounding him to quit that job at the end of the season of 90DF on which they were featured.

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11 minutes ago, lilsadone said:

He didn't quit his job

No, he didn't.  And Paola made comments about her paying the mortgage on the OK house.  (Just as a side note, my husband would collect cans and bottles before he would have me support the two of us.  When you have bills to pay, you work, even if you can't find work in the field of your choosing.)  Paola has certain strengths.  She has bills to pay.  She can't parlay those strengths into steady paying work, so she went to a place where her chances are much better.

Beige, on the other hand, prefers to sit in the mini-McMansion he can't afford and whine about Paola being in Miami.  Well, why aren't you WITH her, you sad sack?  You mean to tell me that there are NO jobs in Miami where he could work?  OK, so it may not be in the field of his choosing.  Those bills aren't going to pay themselves.  Somebody has to make some money.

The only initiative he seems to have is for whining and feeling sorry for himself.

4 hours ago, Toaster Strudel said:

"I might have misled her a little bit" is the new "she is big a little bit"

*fried rice all over monitor*  LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

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20 minutes ago, bethster2000 said:

No, he didn't.  And Paola made comments about her paying the mortgage on the OK house.  (Just as a side note, my husband would collect cans and bottles before he would have me support the two of us.  When you have bills to pay, you work, even if you can't find work in the field of your choosing.)  Paola has certain strengths.  She has bills to pay.  She can't parlay those strengths into steady paying work, so she went to a place where her chances are much better.

Beige, on the other hand, prefers to sit in the mini-McMansion he can't afford and whine about Paola being in Miami.  Well, why aren't you WITH her, you sad sack?  You mean to tell me that there are NO jobs in Miami where he could work?  OK, so it may not be in the field of his choosing.  Those bills aren't going to pay themselves.  Somebody has to make some money.

The only initiative he seems to have is for whining and feeling sorry for himself.

From last seasons thread there seemed to be a lot of people with  experience in the industry he was/is in. 

They had this to say - which makes a lot of sense. I do remember he wanted to go to Seattle for better chances of finding work in his industry - but Paola didn't want to go there. 

 

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BTW - I'm not on team anyone, but Paola CAN be a model. Not the traditional model, but there is a place for her in carshow modeling, product modeling at trade shows and things of that nature. She might even find a role in the Miami entertainment industry if she is any good at being on camera (eg. announcer type stuff, commercials targeting the cuban/latin/hispanic community, etc). 

I think it was pretty dumb to move there and not realize she would need to get a part time job that was flexible enough for her to go on casting calls, etc.  But as far as fast money goes, she could make some pretty good money bartending (if she knows how - it's a competitive field also)  and/or waitressing in some of the hotter night club spots (of which there are plenty in Miami).

ETA: Took a look at her instagram just now and looks like she has toned up a lot and is doing fitness modeling and personal training. Makes sense. 

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29 minutes ago, MrSmith said:

No. The only people who believe she's 20 are Anfisa and Jorge.

It's like Pao being 29 for the past three years. Nothing against Pao - she's beautiful. But she's a dime a dozen in Miami.   And 30 is not the age to start a "modeling" career. Reminds me of Irina in Sopranos (my second Sopranos reference today - see Teen Mom). "He said I was too old maybe can get salad spinner".

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Anfisa has a lumpy face. She has way too fillers pumped in her face. Her head actually looks like it has grown. She should really quit the fillers. 

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Just now, Suzy123 said:

Anfisa has a lumpy face. She has way too fillers pumped in her face. Her head actually looks like it has grown. She should really quit the fillers. 

I don't know if anyone else feels this way, but I felt that in some of her scenes her lips were deflated or starting to deflate - especially her top lip. I guess he's not paying to maintain her lip injections ?????

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22 hours ago, okerry said:

Paola is long gone. She'll just keep using Mr. Oklahoma as long as it's convenient and he's dumb enough to go along with it.

My bet is she hasn't left Russ yet because she's waiting to see if they make any money in the sale of the house.

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20 hours ago, jumper sage said:

She is just so stupid.  You can lose a trailer too.  The thing about trailers is the payment is not a mortgage payment AND you usually have a lot rent too.  

If someone is willing to start a go fund me page for Danielle, I will donate 30.00. She has given me at least that much entertainment. 

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7 hours ago, GracieK said:

I couldn't agree more!  I never understand the Russ hate.  He seems exceedingly patient to me and when he does have a legitimate gripe with some choice she has made (without making it as a partner and rather solely based on what she wants) he expresses his concern, but he never lashes out, shows inappropriate anger, or comes off as unreasonable (at least by what we see on camera).  She's so wrapped up in her idea that Colombian women are spicy, loud and sexy that it seems forced.. like she's playing a character of what Colombian women are supposed to be rather than just being.  

Give me a break Paola.. we'd all love our lives to be fun in the sun everyday and trendy cocktails at all the cool bars with friends at night, but that isn't how life works for most of the world.  You aren't independently wealthy and you're not marketable enough to become so in the fields you're chasing.  Expecting Russ to support and fund this Miami nightlife lifestyle while you unrealistically try to become famous is so unattractive.. you don't seem like a fun, sexy Latin girl.. you seem like an asshole.

I've never understood the Russ hate either. I think Paola will regret it if she leaves him. Paola was my favorite cast member until last season. Now, she just comes off incredibly shallow and selfish.  And I find it super annoying that she makes fun of her husband for being bland...like, he was bland when you met him. Did she expect he'd turn into a lover of all things nightlife and Miami overnight? She knew he wasn't spicy or super exciting, that he was a regular person who worked hard for a living. Paola is beautiful with an amazing body, but you can find gorgeous women everywhere in Miami so she's really not unique in that regard. I think she needs a slice of humble pie.

I don't like Anfisa or Jorge. They both really suck, IMO.

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I think in the scenes where they showed Paola walking she looked like a street walker.  She's got sleazy and sexy mixed up.  When she was out with her friends they looked beautiful and it's a shame Paola feels the need to look like a hooker. Someone needs to get her on a 'how to dress' show or something.  The blonde may look better on her head but it won't fix what's inside it.

As for Jorge and Anfisa, how did they find house that big for $7800/month in LA?  That's a great deal for the LA area!

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9 hours ago, Toaster Strudel said:

Didn't he quit his job because Paola was complaining about him being gone too much? 

I thought Russ got fired because he was on a job and he left early because Paola was lonesome.

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I loved the way Anfisa said the word 'debt' by pronouncing the b. And no one corrected her. I am on her side too. Jorge should not have misrepresented himself like that. He knew this was a business exchange and not a real relationship. He did not keep up his end of the bargain. She should be pissed. I think Pao's friend is a jerk. It is not cool to make fun of your friends husband like that. Very disrespectful. Pao even admitted her friend likes to cause drama. Very immature and not a good person to hang around when you are having marital trouble anyway. She said they were best friends. I wonder if that means that Pao is also a jerk. Birds of a feather flock together as they say. 

What do you all think Lorens big secret is?. You think she cheated on Alex? She said it had to do with the bachelorette party so it makes me wonder. 

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Pao made a point last season to let everyone know she is a strong woman...in regard to her moving and starting her 'career' like it was something to be applauded. 

No Pao, what you're doing is not being a strong woman. You're playing with your friends in Miami being taken by your manager. That's called being selfish and naive.

A strong woman does not put their selfish, unreasonable desires above all else.

strong woman is an equal partner to her spouse. 

A strong woman stands up for her marriage, and doesn't let her 'best friend' make a mockery of it. 

I used to like her, she and Russ were my favorite couple. But now her true colors are showing. There's no comprise with her. Miami is it, period. 

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Just now, Drogo said:

For me,  Pao/Russ are the only couple where the U.S. citizen is the innocent bystander. 

Agreed. He didn't marry out of his league, or pull anything shady along the way. I think he clearly loves her and is being more than reasonable.

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1 hour ago, Sup wit dat said:

I think in the scenes where they showed Paola walking she looked like a street walker.  She's got sleazy and sexy mixed up.  When she was out with her friends they looked beautiful and it's a shame Paola feels the need to look like a hooker. Someone needs to get her on a 'how to dress' show or something.  The blonde may look better on her head but it won't fix what's inside it.

As for Jorge and Anfisa, how did they find house that big for $7800/month in LA?  That's a great deal for the LA area!

Everytime I see Pao in the blond hair I think of Elizabeth Berkley in her slutty outfits in Showgirls. 

I think the $7800 is for the rent? I was under the impression that rent is pretty cheap in the States due to the housing market bubble pop? 

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