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S07.E19: Reunion Part 1


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4 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

I'm kind of hoping that when Rinna is in the hot seat and is questioned about the were people doing coke in the bathroom? that Rnna eventually responds It was a joooooke, Dorit! It's my American humor

This is the best thing I have read in this forum this year - love it!!! 

I was quite surprised at how nervous LVP was before they went on stage to film the reunion. Not nearly as cool, calm and collected as she likes to come across. And I don't for a minute believe that LVP was innocently asking Erika about how she raised her son as opposed to how she was raised. She knew exactly what she was doing. LVP (as she said) is a long time friend of PK's - she is the one that suggested PK and Dorito for the show. There is no way she would not want to embarrass Erika after Erika has called out her friends, several times. 

Dorito without the accent in 2013 is hilarious!!! I keep thinking about the article link in last week's thread where Dorito and PK are interviewed regarding going on the show. PK claims that they are the most open, honest people you will ever meet, with nothing to hide. Lol. I wonder how many assests he hid during his bankruptcy to be able to afford 3 full time housekeepers and a stable of nannies. Not to mention the rent on their house (have they ever admitted that it is a rental?), expensive cars, etc. Anyone wanna bet on when his next bankruptcy will be? 

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46 minutes ago, Vicky8675309 said:

did any of them claim to be single dads (implying they raised their kids by themselves?)

I think Todd Stewart did claim to be a single dad. Slade has always sought sympathy because of his son's cancer while not paying child support. Regardless, my point still stands that we've heaped an abundance of scorn on these men for failing to care and provide for their children and they've never implied that they were single parents.

Sheree was the primary caregiver for her children. When she was going to court to get her ex to pay the child support that he owed, she showed up in a Dolce suit driving her Astin Martin. As she was getting ready for this hearing, the camera crew caught her son sleeping on an air mattress on the floor. She didn't abandon her children, but she's never really put them first either. 

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2 hours ago, njbchlover said:

I thought that Erika's dress did nothing to show off her figure.  She has a very nice, voluptuous shape, and the dress offered no glimpse of that.  

Plus, I thought her makeup was very, very heavy handed.

 

Seriously, the makeup on everyone, including Andy and PK, looked like it was freaking spackled on! 

I don't recall it being so horribly obvious on other seasons. Did they change the lighting or something? It is THICK. 

Except LVP. I think she's the only one whose makeup actually looks better than usual this reunion. 

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2 hours ago, WireWrap said:

Rinna is fighting for space up near Eileen, which is around Erika's colon!

Again, she alludes to raising her son when we know that just wasn't the truth! Luckily for her, Rinna is up her behind and not calling her out because that is something Rinna would love to use against someone!

Nah, It's not just Andy, Rinna and Davidson are also fighting to suck Erica's dick. Kissing her ass doesn't satisfy any more. 

 

 

Getting tired of the Erica Felatio Show. I'd rather watch Ru Paul's drag race at least there is some truth on that show.

33 minutes ago, AttackTurtle said:

That was a fairly boring reunion episode & at some point this ridiculous "panty gate" story has to end.   If Lisa V. was trying to set up Erika with her comment about Erika's approach to raising her son, then I'm right there with her.  Erika brought up being 20 and having a baby without any help....someone should call her out.  She did not raise her child.  

This should be Eileen's last season.  She brings nothing to this show.   

I wish Dorit wouldcall Erica out on that maybe she has more class than Miss. C***y

Eileen who?

1 hour ago, Lady of nod said:

much ado about nothing

Since they both will unfortunately be back next year, I would love to see rhinna turn on the ericas. That would be worth a watch. What would Eileen do?

Never let it die.

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On the one hand I enjoyed that they were all basically civil and weren't screeching over each other.  On the other hand, what a fucking snooze fest.  

LVP's dress and hair looked better than usual.  Maybe Erika looked better standing up, but she looked like shit sitting on the couch.  Her tits looked almost as bad as Dorinda's at last season's NY reunion or Rinna's in this season's finale.  Kyle's dress was tragic.  Eileen looked nice in her off the shoulder sweater.  I don't think I liked the new format.

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6 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

I recall it.  Kim had said LVp never called her and LVP said, "I called you after your son broke his leg."  KIm replied, "my son didn't break his leg."  So technically LVP was trying to fend for herself without outing the true nature of Chad's hospitalization.

It went slightly different. She said "I called you when I thought your son broke his leg, but then it was something else". It's true what someone else said, that only folks who followed what was happening in the media would have gotten it (because of course it was never on the show), but it was all over the media, and those of us over on this forum were hunting like crazy for more information. No one knew which child had been taken away for observation because the media - who generall never fails to give the dirty details - was extremely careful to never mention what child it was. We all knew immediately then that it was Chad, and of course since then have mentioned his mental heatlth challenges often only because LVP let the cat out of the bag. It was one of her more maniuplative moments, and a great example of how she does things, gets off camera stuff introduced on the show, and why she tends to be disliked by the other gals. And again, because it should be repeated often, I've never seen anyone else try to get off camera stuff introduced to such an extent. She is so stealth about it. 

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The way Erika said "It's fine" about Rinna and her wearing the same shoes was the same way she said "It's fine" about pantygate being resolved.  Better watch out, Rinna!  Erika is harboring some deep-seated resentment about the shoes!  (Although I'd love to watch Erika lash out at Rinna - she totally deserves it for everything else she's done!)

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6 hours ago, lunastartron said:

The reason why you probably don't remember is because Lisa referenced Chad's mental health episode by saying "it was something else." From what I recall, there was nothing explicit and a viewer who hadn't already read about the incident wouldn't have caught the allusion. 

Exactly. If you didn't read the media, you knew nothing about it because it wasn't on the show. That is the point, trying to very casually introduce things that the ladies don't want to discuss on camera when you don't like something they have said or done. Playing dirty. All of the audience might not understand if you don't folllow the media of the show, but the the gals know what she is trying to do - hence the accusation of being manipulative. The terror in Kim's eyes when she said that has was a big moment at that reunion. If you are just a viewer of the show and don't follow media, you also know nothing about Erika and her decision to move to LA when her son was 3. You think it was just LVP being curious and interested in someone else. It's important, because so often people who watch wonder why she gets this accusation thrown around at her. If they don't see her doing it on the show, they think the other gals are just bitchy, or jealous. But they know how LVP works and it frustrates them because she is so good at it. For fuck sake, if you want to say something, just come out and say it, but she is very, very careful in the way that she does this. 

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Did we know Erica had a dog before this episode?  I was kind of surprised she did, because she and Tom don't strike me as the type to put up with bathroom accidents and shedding from things other than Erica's bad extensions/wigs. 

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6 hours ago, HunterHunted said:

Umm, yes. See the following:

  • Armstrong, Russell
  • Ayers, Brooks
  • Smiley, Slade
  • Spencer, Block
  • Thomas, Peter

All of them are deadbeat dads who have been excoriated here and on social media.

See also Sheree Whitfield whose monstrous self-absorption led her to blow all of her money on herself and her chateau while her kids slept on air mattresses. She also pretended her oldest child was not her kid and actually a friend of hers. So this isn't isolated criticism of Erika.

But was Erika a "deadbeat mom"? Did she fail to provide things for her son? I am asking because I don't know. The men above (well, I don't know all of them) are well known to have worked hard to not have to financially support their kids and the law got involved. Was this the case with Erika? Maybe a better comparison would be between the two people on the show last night - PK and Erika. Anyone see PK's other kids around anywhere? I haven't. That is because they are in the UK with his ex-wife. 

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Why did the ladies have to keep leaning forward to speak to Andy?  Couldn't the stage be set up so they could all see each other and the cameras at the same time?  or did Andy request that he not have to look at Eileen and Dorit unless absolutely necessary???  I don't remember them having this problem on any prior reunion...

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8 hours ago, jaync said:

Now that's how you dress for a reunion couch. Queen Pinky looked good, too.

Yeah, except Dolly is a goddess American treasure.

There's a featured quote about Erika on the homepage, and it sounds like she's not any more endearing on DWTS.

I've said elsewhere (with the Vanderpump Rules reunion), I don't care what designer the women wear.  I really don't.  But if the dress doesn't look good when one is sitting, then another garment should be chosen.  The designer gowns generally chosen have the worst top portions so the ladies are flopping all over the place and the dress looks sloppy.  Same with the slits in the skirt up to there.  If one is dressing for one of these events, make sure the outfit will work for sitting, as there is no standing in these shows (and certainly no dancing, for which many of these dresses are designed).

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With the seating arrangement, he was right in view and he was not the only person to have seen the view

PK's chair wasn't pointed at Ericka, his line of vision was pointing towards Ken. He'd have to turn his face to the left and look downwards to view Ericka that way.

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10 minutes ago, RHJunkie said:

1. No one said it was OK for someone to look up anyone's skirt. Don't project a narrative to suggest that PK was somehow pretending to pick-up his fork so that he could get a look. With the seating arrangement, he was right in view and he was not the only person to have seen the view. Dorit is the one that said that she didn't blame or get upset with her husband for the glimpse he got and though she presented it as though he couldn't stop staring, we know now that once he noticed he never looked back and if you go back to the footage used in the episode, they were looping the same scene of PK looking in her direction to make it seem like he was continually looking when he wasn't.

2. No one implied that Erika wanted anyone's husband to look up her dress. Have we entered an upside down universe where when someone implicitly says 'It's not like I think you were doing this on purpose' somehow means 'I totally think you did this on purpose'?

The problem with this is that PK said himself in the kitchen the next morning that after his first glimpse, he couldn't look away. He said that. Didn't allude to it, he actually said those words "I couldn't look away", which is why Dorit kept saying he was staring. Because he said it himself, although last night at the reunion he said something different. Oh well, he also said he is rich. Liar Face. 

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1 hour ago, motorcitymom65 said:

But was Erika a "deadbeat mom"? Did she fail to provide things for her son? I am asking because I don't know. The men above (well, I don't know all of them) are well known to have worked hard to not have to financially support their kids and the law got involved. Was this the case with Erika? Maybe a better comparison would be between the two people on the show last night - PK and Erika. Anyone see PK's other kids around anywhere? I haven't. That is because they are in the UK with his ex-wife. 

It does seem a bit leery that you're willing to debate a point about the merit of someone's intentions (LVP) that you can't ever truly prove, but you are willing to withhold judgement of Erika based on the merit that you can't say something for certain because you don't know. We don't truly know anything other than what we see on TV and what we read online. Someone putting together the facts that a woman left her son to be raised by his father while she moved halfway across the country to fulfill her Hollywood dreams (and categorizing her as a deadbeat mom) is no different than you putting together 'opinions' others have said, and then applying that opinion to everything that you see and therefore every opinion or interpretation of what you see is laced with that one particular narrative about that person as being manipulative.

For the record, I also don't know Erika's situation with her son and even with what I do know, I'm not willing to categorize her as a deadbeat mom. I can't think of any particular circumstances but perhaps some do exist where there was good reason for leaving her son behind and at the end of the day, their relationship was either not impacted by her decision or has since been repaired. If her son has a great relationship with her then that's what should matter most in a parent child-relationship.

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The only time she is happy is when her glam squad and Eileen are kissing her ass.

Or when LVP is serving dessert after lunch (and not the kind of dessert one has in the Kemsley bathroom).

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If her son has a great relationship with her then that's what should matter most in a parent child-relationship.

Not on this site, apparently...

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1 hour ago, motorcitymom65 said:

But was Erika a "deadbeat mom"? Did she fail to provide things for her son? I am asking because I don't know. The men above (well, I don't know all of them) are well known to have worked hard to not have to financially support their kids and the law got involved. Was this the case with Erika? Maybe a better comparison would be between the two people on the show last night - PK and Erika. Anyone see PK's other kids around anywhere? I haven't. That is because they are in the UK with his ex-wife. 

Apples and Oranges again because PK didn't leave his kids, his ex wife took them back to the UK, and he/Dorit don't make any claims about those children at all. More likely than not, the ex doesn't want him/Dorit to talk about the kids on the show.

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PK didn't leave his kids, his ex wife took them back to the UK

He couldn't have demanded they stay with him in the US? We don't know the full details of what happened with PK and his ex-wife, just as we don't know the full details of what happened between Ericka and her ex too.

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8 hours ago, Teddybear said:

Plus she has her own clothing store!  Of all the dresses she could have chosen, I don't know why she thought that one was the most flattering.  

LVP's powder was about 10 shades too light.  

I'm not surprised Erika's Glam Squad made her look like shit again.  The dress put her boobs basically at her waist. 

I thought she looked chubby but that could have been because she was sitting next to Rinna.  Those tight sleeves made her arms look big. 

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1 minute ago, motorcitymom65 said:

The problem with this is that PK said himself in the kitchen the next morning that after his first glimpse, he couldn't look away. He said that. Didn't allude to it, he actually said those words "I couldn't look away", which is why Dorit kept saying he was staring. Because he said it himself, although last night at the reunion he said something different. Oh well, he also said he is rich. Liar Face. 

He did clarify at the reunion which I think would explain an exaggeration on his part, not a lie. And again, it's how people present the situation. If I had read the comments all season long and then gone back and watched the scene for the first time, I would have expected to see a scene where PK is on the floor trying to look up Erika's dress.

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5 hours ago, AttackTurtle said:

 Erika brought up being 20 and having a baby without any help....someone should call her out.  She did not raise her child.  

I don't know the details of Erika's parenting, but I did not think she said she had NO help. I thought she said she didn't use nannies. Bit of a difference, IMO. 

 

5 hours ago, MVFrostsMyPie said:

 

Hmm. I actually hated Dorit's whole look. Hated the hair, she needs to wear less eye makeup (as do they all), and that dress looked like a cat got ahold of it before she put it on. 

 

That dress was so distracting and horrible. When Andy asked if they ever re-wore their reunion dresses, I thought - NO ONE should re-wear that thing. Ever. 

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2 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

He couldn't have demanded they stay with him in the US? We don't know the full details of what happened with PK and his ex-wife, just as we don't know the full details of what happened between Ericka and her ex too.

Is PK even a US citizen? Are the children US citizens?   A couple of things about PK's first wife and kids, at least one of them is an adult now, the Kemsleys regularly visit the UK,  the Kemsleys have never given an interview about the three children.  Erika is the one who gave an interview and lined out what she did in regards to leaving her son and his age when she moved cross country to pursue her dream.  Erika has appeared in ads for her former husband's business, there is no indication there was any animosity or anything between the two.

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2 hours ago, Lizzing said:

Did we know Erica had a dog before this episode?  I was kind of surprised she did, because she and Tom don't strike me as the type to put up with bathroom accidents and shedding from things other than Erica's bad extensions/wigs. 

She and tom are extremely careful of what they put out on camera. Very managed. There is absolutely no reality given to the cameras from those two. Hence they never connect with the audience and will not last on tv. Nobody LOVES Erica. No real die-hards. Maybe a few, but not legions. I know that's a big statement but I stand behind it.

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8 hours ago, 55Unicorns said:

SIGH...and if the situation were reversed...if HE had left HER with the child...would we even be having this conversation??

He is not on the show and that didn't happen.

If the example of Erika's mother being hard on her was the extent of "difficult" childhood, that's good parenting. Teaching your children to navigate life is a gift.

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I thought it was boring.  And have no interest in PK, so I turned it off shortly after he sat down.  I'm sick of some of these husbands (PK, Richard Wakile, and Jim  Marchese to name a few) continually trying to insert themselves in the season.   They're annoying.  Take a page from Mauricio's book. 

Other than that - I can't even really remember what was discussed - Erika and Eileen had already "made up" for Eileen's unfortunate comment, so there was nothing there, Andy.  I didn't need to know that Rinna was panti-less.

And I have Kim and Eden to look forward to?????? I can hardly wait.

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20 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

 

This is minor, but it bugged me that after Ericka released her glam squad on Eileen, Ericka asked her if she felt pretty.  In my opinion, Eileen always looks stunning and it doesn't require three/four additional humans getting paid who knows what per hour to assist. 

 

I agree with this. Eileen is naturally gorgeous! I would have asked, "Do you feel pampered?" instead. 

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11 minutes ago, ghoulina said:

I agree with this. Eileen is naturally gorgeous! I would have asked, "Do you feel pampered?" instead. 

And then she made that weird comment about "Now you're the popular girl in high school"...ummm,  you've both been out of high school for a while now, wtf?

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Kyle admitted on a Podcast with Heather McDonald that she made a bad choice with her reunion dress and didn't realize it until she saw pictures. Been there, done that!

Erika probably didn't smile much because her ten pounds of makeup she had on would have cracked.  She really does look great with less.

This could have been a 2 part reunion because Part 1 was a snoozefest and unnecessary!

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