S07.E10: New Best Friends

[halgia]

While searching for a missing Alexandrian, Rick and his group encounter a mysterious collective.

[MichaelaRae]

A whole episode without even HEARING Neegan. Be still my heart. Naturally that ends next week.

[AimingforYoko]

Jadis may be a woman of few words, but she knew enough not to take on The Saviors without a looooot of guns.

Aw, Daryl really loves Carol if he didn't want her to go HAM on Negan and crew.

[dosodog]

Jerry you are my ray of sunshine since Glenn.

How can you not love a man who shows up with so much enthusiasm and cobbler.

He's going to die dammit.

[TigerLynx]

Is King Ezekiel courting Carol?

Was the new group going to feed Gabriel to Zombie Winslow?

I couldn't decide who I wanted to shut up more Richard, Morgan, Gabriel or Ezekiel, and then the leader of the new group said, "We take.  We don't bother."  It's no wonder the Walkers are winning.  All they have to do is wonder around aimlessly waiting for the idiot humans to finish each other off.

Does Darryl not telling Carol the truth mean Carol or Darryl is going to be the next casualty?

[econ07]

So can we name the new group the Dumpster Divers?

[Dust Bunny]

Wow, that was horrible dialogue. I'm not even talking about the Junkyard Gang and the lack of complete sentences. The writing across the board sucked. Gabriel's words to Rick were just bizarre. Yes, it made sense, but who talks to people like that?

[MrsRafaelBarba]

Polly sounds like an Aussie.

[festivus]

I can tell already those Mad Max motha fuckas are gonna get on my last nerve. Use your words. Damn.

 

Jerry is awesome.

[econ07]

So does this mean that the boat owner is still out there? ... the one with the boots and the binoculars at the end of an earlier episode?

[xaxat]

I think the Goth junkyard crew has eaten from too many of those tainted cans their leader was talking about.

Their verbal skills seem. . . compromised.

[Cheetosandchoc]

Father Gabe looks so tiny on that couch

[EllenC]

So EVERYONE who survived, outside Rick's group, fancies themselves some kind of thespians? Talking and walking with pretentiousness? And dressing. I know "normal" is a relative term, especially in a zombie apocalypse, but good grief. "Hey, let's dress like we're in the Matrix and play Mad Max Thunderdome meets Star Wars, Star Trek, Gladiator and Resident Evil!" "Cool. What we really need is a big zoo animal, though."

Edited February 20, 2017 by EllenC

[Boofish]

I'm actually loving the subtle way the show displays peoples humanity. Jerry, Ben, Aaron, Eric etc shows exactly what Morgan keeps trying to tell everyone - people can still be who they were. Their shirts are so bright red it's blinding but it's nice while it last.

[Raven1707]

Rumor has it that someone took all the best words.

So this is what's left.

[sigmaforce86]

Jadis......The White Witch of Narnia........Intentional name choice?

Having no Neegan is still good.  Daryl can't keep Glenn's death from Carol for long.

How long can Tara hide what she knows about the all female camp with the stockpile.  She did OK when Rick said she could tell them where NOT to look but she's definitely feeling at least a little guilty about keeping that secret.

Side note; Story Sync screwed up, gave Diane the most kills with "1". Didn't' Rick kill the junkyard walker?

Edited February 20, 2017 by sigmaforce86
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[riverheightsnancy]

I loved the actor who plays Jerry when he was YoYo on Halt & Catch Fire. He is great! 

[mightysparrow]

That episode was fucking brutal.  Are the writers so fed up that they'd rather be unemployed?

[Samsnee]

If I ever get stuck in a zombie apocalypse, lose my daughter, lose my spouse, watch every close friend to me die or almost die, have to shoot a girl in the head to protect everyone, and ask what happened to my friends who ran into a murderous group of psychopaths, please don't tell me the truth, because you know...  my feelings. 

[MrsRafaelBarba]

Cooper is adorable, Jerry better survive.

[shanndee]

Here it is. My "Jump the Shark" episode.

All the junk yard needed was Tina Turner. The Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome thing was just too much. The look, the stilted, made up language, the Thunderdome combat. Rick as Raggedy Man. Ugh.

The Carol and Daryl scenes were nice,but, wow, has this show ever lost its way. :( 

[MrsRafaelBarba]

No Chris, Spikey Winslow wasn't anything special.

[nodorothyparker]

The writing staff has been watching waaay too much fantasy/sci-fi.  That was some very unpleasant mashup of the Mad Max franchise and some sort of stilted elf porn with giant trash piles.

I still love Carol and Daryl but they felt like they were on an entirely different show.

[Mu Shu]

1 minute ago, mightysparrow said:

That episode was fucking brutal.  Are the writers so fed up that they'd rather be unemployed?

I sort of liked how fucked up it was.  The visual of that thing coming at Rick was stupid but surreal.   

I hated the junkyard fools though.   I can't decide whether Jadis and her eight months of roots said fuck it on waiting for someone to walk by with some bleach to boost, or she's going for a balayage look.  

Some of the extras, shit, all the extras looked like they are auditioning for a sequel to the Hills have Eyes, or Wrong Turn.  Weird looking fuckers they are.  

[minamurray78]

4 minutes ago, riverheightsnancy said:

I loved the actor who plays Jerry when he was YoYo on Halt & Catch Fire. He is great! 

I liked YoYo too, I hope he survives long enough for me to remember his name at least!

Either the show is spreading too far, or I just lost my interest and cannot keep up with all the plots, locations, characters, enemies, frenemies, whatever.

[AngelaHunter]

5 minutes ago, Dust Bunny said:

Gabriel's words to Rick were just bizarre.

Massive man crush? Watch it, Rick.

And then Captain Kirk was thrown in to fight the Gorn, or Rick to fight the Spiky-Walker (Which was pretty cool, btw) None of it made any sense whatsoever and are there really people who have forgotten how to talk in the last couple years? I was expecting to hear "No kill I." Yeah, I guess this ep just made me think of 60s Star Trek x Mad Max.

I couldn't believe Daryl didn't stay with Carol, at least overnight.

I've been trying to think who Richard reminds me of and I finally got it! He looks like the love child of The Governor and Karl Malden!

[Morrigan2575]

Glad I quit this show after last season. I only watched tonight for the Caryl reunion. Romantic/Platonic, I don't care their relationship and, love is as true as any I've seen on TV, in some cases it's actually better. 

The rest was just horribly bad. The CGI behind Rick at the junkyard was awful. The Whole vibe of the Garbage People was laughably bad. I could possibly understand it if 50-100 years had past and these were kids growing up in the new world. But these are grown ass adults who are 3 years removed from the Apocalypse. They should still be talking like normal human beings.

King Ezekiel is cool, I like him. I also found tje Cobbler dude to be really sweet. I hope someone wraps him up in bubble wrap and protects him from the baddies.

[mightysparrow]

This episode is the new gold standard of 'Bad Walking Dead Episodes'.  Whatever I thought was bad before was must-see tv compared to this mess.

Poor Seth Gilliam.  He must lie in bed muttering 'I used to be on The Wire.  Now I'm getting cussed out by zombie-lovers'.

[AngelaHunter]

I can't wait for Negan to meet the Garbage Pail Kids. Can you imagine his frustration? "Speak when you're spoken to!"

[mightysparrow]

I can't wait to read the reviews on this one.  And I really can't wait to see how the hardcore Caryl fans react!

[nodorothyparker]

3 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

The Whole vibe of the Garbage People was laughably bad. I could possibly understand it if 50-100 years had past and these were kids growing up in the new world. But these are grown ass adults who are 3 years removed from the Apocalypse. They should still be talking like normal human beings.

This this this times a thousand.  A lot of the rest of the goofiness we see among the various groups I can sort of buy because different systems are going to evolve around different personalities.  Ezekiel's theatrical projection doesn't even bother me because it's obviously a put on for a deliberate effect.  But how do grown ass adults somehow forget how to speak in normal sentences like normal human beings in a couple of years time?  If we were even a generation or two out with the loss of pop culture and mass communication, it wouldn't be such a ridiculous leap.

[AimingforYoko]

4 minutes ago, AngelaHunter said:

I can't wait for Negan to meet the Garbage Pail Kids. Can you imagine his frustration? "Speak when you're spoken to!"

Are you kidding? Jadis is his dream woman, he'd do all the talking.

[EllenC]

Maybe the junkyard kids did nothing but text each other pre-zombies? They really don't know how to talk except in emojis and tweets? It's actually a deep commentary on modern life?

OK, I got nothing.

Edited February 20, 2017 by EllenC

[Mu Shu]

So these people have no credible water or food source,  tidy the junk into neat piles, and have a skilled resident welder to outfit a zombie in spiked armor?   They just wait for people with "jars" and guns?   And decorated the dirt lanai area with Persian rugs?  It seems like so much work to live in a trash heap.   

[econ07]

OK, I actually liked the ingenuity of the walker with spikes, although I did feel bad for the team of dumpster divers that were tasked with holding it down and getting the helmet on.  What a job to be assigned!

With respect to these recent episodes, I'm guessing they are building up to a confrontation with the Saviors from all the locations combined (dumpster divers, hilltop, kingdom, alex).  This should involve many episodes setting up the chess pieces, preparing, and putting them into play, all while trying not to draw attention to themselves.  If they had simply jumped in with a confrontation of the Saviors in the first few episodes, it would have had no credibility.

[EllenC]

Or maybe the writers get paid by the word and they've used up all their budget on Negan.

[econ07]

5 minutes ago, nodorothyparker said:

This this this times a thousand.  A lot of the rest of the goofiness we see among the various groups I can sort of buy because different systems are going to evolve around different personalities.  Ezekiel's theatrical projection doesn't even bother me because it's obviously a put on for a deliberate effect.  But how do grown ass adults somehow forget how to speak in normal sentences like normal human beings in a couple of years time?  If we were even a generation or two out with the loss of pop culture and mass communication, it wouldn't be such a ridiculous leap.

How do grown ass adults somehow forget how to speak in normal sentences: Facebook.

[CletusMusashi]

I almost wish we'd seen a little more of how Junkville works. Like, where do they sleep? Where is their food kept? How is it prepared and distributed? Do they have outhouses, or do they just squat down wherever they're standing and say "Poop now?" However.. as funny as they were in this doseage, I don't think I want to see a whole episode of Jadis, Tamiel, Weird Random Cape Guy, and Father Pee Pants. I mean, it's funny, but it's not lollicop funny.

[AngelaHunter]

1 minute ago, econ07 said:

How do grown ass adults somehow forget how to speak in normal sentences: Facebook.

I think you're unto something there. They may all be using text-speak.

7 minutes ago, AimingforYoko said:

Are you kidding? Jadis is his dream woman, he'd do all the talking.

He does that anyway but maybe he would appreciate a woman who speaks in words of one syllable and is more miserly with them than is Daryl with his words, although he was certainly gabby tonight.

[Macbeth]

26 minutes ago, mightysparrow said:

That episode was fucking brutal.  Are the writers so fed up that they'd rather be unemployed?

No - they are doing serious drugs.  After having to write Negan scenes - they are self medicating.

[CletusMusashi]

I kind of wonder if they're trolling us. "Oh, so you think Negan talks too much? Fine! We'll replace him with Tarzan, Tanto, and Frankenstein."

[ShadowSixx]

Rosita continues her Bitch Tour. She needs to STFU and Tara should've told the bitch to just go then, there's no anchor tied to your ass. Since she wants to be on her own.

I loved the gladiator walker, that was some badass shit. Too bad we probably won't see anything like that again from a walker standpoint.

Isn't odd that this group didn't do much to subdue Michonne, Tara, or Rosita when they were throwing them around. Only thing they did was hit Aaron in the head and Aaron wasn't even fighting anyone. Damn shame, Aaron gets hit for doing nothing.

Daryl is boring as fuck, he's kind of worn out at this point. His scenes are just beyond boring.

I'm really hoping Morgan starts to see the light after the supply exchange.

[BloatedGuppy]

Well that was...an episode.

GOOD

• The Carol/Daryl reunion was well acted by both parties, even though McBride is called upon to bring a new aspect of Carol to the forefront every week because the writers have absolutely no fucking idea what to do with her. Reedus has done good work bringing pathos to his scenes on the show over the last several episodes. Daryl has at times been an insufferable character but he's carrying a lot of water right now.
• The initial bits re: the Kingdom and the Saviors were decently done. That one semi-reasonable Savior...that's how they ALL should have been. Oppressors, yes, evil men, yes, rule through threat of force, yes...but he seemed almost REASONABLE and SANE in his application of those threats. Like a rational human being, and not a gibbering cartoon. Shame about his gibbering cartoon henchman, but at least he treated him like the idiot he was being.

WHAT THE FUCK

• I thought the fishing village episode was a new nadir for the series but holy hell I could not have anticipated the junkyard people. That wasn't a bad episode of a decent television show, that was HILARIOUSLY STUPID. Who wrote that? Who came up with that? That was FUCKING TERRIBLE.
• Why on EARTH are they speaking broken English and dressing like extras from Mad Max? It's been about five fucking years, not five centuries. And not just one of them! It's not just one person with an affectation, or one Drama major dealing with trauma through cosplay. There's about a hundred of them and they're all talking like idiots. What the fucking fuck.
• How do they relate to the boat? They broke into Alexandria and kidnapped Gabriel? What? Because they wanted the loot on the boat? But they never took the loot on the boat? Because they take, but don't bother? What? WHAT? WHAT THE FUCK?
• Why do they have a spiky trash zombie in a gladitorial pit? Why was it there? Why did it have a name? Why was it not a test and then they obviously used it as a test? Was that supposed to be winsome? Was the audience supposed to chuckle? What the hell? What...I can't...
• Did you guys see that hilarious green screen of the trash yard?! And they threw it up TWICE! Those were some early 80's special effects, there.
• Why did Michonne need a rusty wire cat? To "replace the one she had before"? What?
• Seth Gilliam delivers his worst performance of the series by a screaming long shot, and Masterson continues to flail around in her scenes. Serratos seems hell bent on ruining Rosita by making her a completely unsympathetic chore, too.
• Rick is all smiles throughout, even after getting his hand skewered on the trash zombie. Good characterization!
• And that cheesy upbeat music tinkling throughout!!!!
• Why did we need these people? Did the Kingdom and Hilltop not provide sufficient narrative room for redshirts? Who thought this was a good idea? Who greenlit this crap?
• I am feeling nostalgic for the fucking HOSPITAL ARC that was so bad. Give me the Andrea and Lori variety hour. Give me Dale's tiresome nattering. Give me Carl emoting like a block of wood. Anything but these junkyard idiots again.
• Whaaaaaaaaaat was that. Seriously. Oh my god. My dear god.

Edited February 20, 2017 by BloatedGuppy

[Mu Shu]

4 minutes ago, CletusMusashi said:

I almost wish we'd seen a little more of how Junkville works. Like, where do they sleep? Where is their food kept? How is it prepared and distributed? Do they have outhouses, or do they just squat down wherever they're standing and say "Poop now?" However.. as funny as they were in this doseage, I don't think I want to see a whole episode of Jadis, Tamiel, Weird Random Cape Guy, and Father Pee Pants. I mean, it's funny, but it's not lollicop funny.

I always wonder where the poop goes.

Fuck these losers.  I mean, they sit on their asses for years waiting for someone to get the guns, then they kidnap father pee and strip him down to a soiled wife beater.  That's just uncalled for.  He is a man of the cloth, have some respect.   

The only good thing they did is wait for years for someone to fight the thing in the spiked armor.  I like them for that, but only that.  

[mmecorday]

As an avid viewer of "Hoarders," I have to say the hoard on tonight's TWD was the worst I have ever seen. When Rick stole the wire cat sculpture, I expected one of the collective to break rank and run towards him screaming, "I had plans for that cat!"

[Lamima]

30 minutes ago, nodorothyparker said:

The writing staff has been watching waaay too much fantasy/sci-fi.  That was some very unpleasant mashup of the Mad Max franchise and some sort of stilted elf porn with giant trash piles.

I still love Carol and Daryl but they felt like they were on an entirely different show.

Me thinks writers are a fan of Stranger Things and taking a page from their playbook of copying old shows/movies.

[CletusMusashi]

3 minutes ago, Mu Shu said:

That's just uncalled for.  He is a man of the cloth, have some respect.  

A man of the black cloth. If he were dressed in bright happy pastels or something, they wouldn't have swiped his duds.

[AngelaHunter]

2 minutes ago, ShadowSixx said:

Only thing they did was hit Aaron in the head and Aaron wasn't even fighting anyone. Damn shame, Aaron gets hit for doing nothing.

I was thinking the same thing. Everyone takes out his/her temper tantrums on poor Aaron!

 

4 minutes ago, BloatedGuppy said:

I am feeling nostalgic for the fucking HOSPITAL ARC that was so bad.

 I don't think I can go that far (although the hospital lacked the sheer fucked-upedness of this mess) but I do miss Philip a lot about now.

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And that cheesy upbeat music tinkling throughout!!!!

I despise when we're given musical cues about how we're supposed to feel because we're too stupid to figure it out: Aww, here's the tinkling piano or the sad trombone. Well, okay - maybe for this ep I needed to be told I should have some reaction other than "WTF?"

And btw, BloatedGuppy, I agree with every single other point you made.

 

2 minutes ago, ShadowSixx said:

Daryl is boring as fuck, he's kind of worn out at this point. His scenes are just beyond boring.

I thought if he started talking again he'd be more interesting. Nope.

[mightysparrow]

I'm still laughing.  There isn't a drug known to man that can explain how the writers came up with THAT.  Forget about the junkyard business (God, I wish I could), there's so much other crap.

1.  Long-haired Saviour red-shirt was a total asshole and seemed to go against the Saviour pecking order.  I thought that the hierarchy was important in Saviour-world and this guy was really getting above his station in life. 

2.  Carol is soooooooo fragile that she needs not only all of the Kingdom but fucking Daryl, to protect her from the harsh realities of the world.  What purpose does she serve?

3.  I have no idea what's going on with Richard.  He wants to join CDB's fight against Negan and he thinks the best way to do that is to get into it with Daryl?

4.  What the fuck is up with Rosita?  The other characters are going to have to start avoiding her because the anvils raining down are dangerous.  

I know I'm in the minority but I say, yeah for Morgan.  Why should he be bullied into going against his beliefs to suit CDB?  They say they need fighters.  Apparently Carol is the biggest, baddest, most dangerous fighter on the face of the earth but nobody wants to unleash her on the Saviours because she's too delicate.  They'd rather browbeat the guy who DOESN'T want to kill.

This is gold-plated fuckery.

[ShadowSixx]

2 minutes ago, mightysparrow said:

1.  Long-haired Saviour red-shirt was a total asshole and seemed to go against the Saviour pecking order.  I thought that the hierarchy was important in Saviour-world and this guy was really getting above his station in life. 

 

It's ridiculous that everytime he comes to pick up the supplies this long haired jackass just harasses Richard for no reason at all. He's the only one causing problems and the one in charge of the pick ups seem to not like it as well. He wants it to stop and if I remember correctly he didn't like it the first time Richard and long hair got into it. Punishment shouldn't be Richard no longer coming it should be that long hair needs to stay his ass back at the base because he's the one causing all the trouble. The one in charge seems like he just wants the exchange to go down in peace.