S07.E19: Last To Know

[Booger666]

4 hours ago, CofCinci said:

I'm sure you take your dogses' food out of the can and put it in a bowl. 

I do!  And not to brag, but my dogses doctor said no more stairs because it's bad for her so I actually don't let her use the stairs. #Imabettermomthanleah (I hate hashtags but I think we need to make this go viral. Ha!)

Edited February 7, 2017 by Booger666
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[ghoulina]

Leah makes me really freaking nervous with those kids. She's got them in the pool, sitting in a chair how many feet away, turning the other direction while talking to Germy! How about standing right at the edge and giving your full attention, or....I don't know....getting IN with them? Then she yells at Addie for getting in without a grownup - "MTV don't count!" Once again, she yells at her kids for being kids, when she's the adult and should be more responsible. I just can't with this girl and her pretense of being some super careful mother. I'm pretty sure MTV "counted" when she would leave her kids in the car. She's just trying to put on a show, but I'm not buying it. And if your kid can't touch the bottom of the pool, insist she wears a life jacket or get out. You're the mom!

I do feel torn with how they handle Ali sometimes, though. I will admit it. Ali is such a stubborn girl, so full of life. As a mother, I can't imagine telling her, "No, you can't" if she feels like she can. I'm not talking about the life jacket situation, but just running around with other kids. Obviously you don't want to make her situation worse, but if her quality of life is going to go way downhill anyway, maybe it's not the worst to let her do some things? I don't know....just trying to put myself in their shoes, as parents. I do think Leah needs to encourage less strenuous activities, though, in general. Show Ali that there are other ways to have fun that aren't so physical. The yoga, the water park....I just hate to see that kid falling over and over. 

Also, whenever I see Leah and her sister together, my inner Barb comes out - "High, high....ya both high!"

 

Jo continues to be massively impressive. I loved the way he addressed the fighting situation with both Kail and Javi. He let it be known that it wasn't cool, but he did it in a very calm, classy manner. He stressed how serious it was for the sake of the kids, first and foremost, and I was pleased to see he didn't get any resistance. I hope those two can keep their fighting more private in the future. But I think as long as Isaac has Jo going to bat for him, he stands a decent chance of not being broken by this. I was just so happy to see all the kids and dads getting together and putting their differences aside. 

But meeting for ice cream at 5:30? Really? 

 

Jenelle officially said "I can stop after this". Famous last words. Can we get that in writing? Signed by a notary? Something? 

And Ensley will have Dave's last name, because when she gets Jace back she'll change HIS name? Kid is how old? Six? Seven? You're going to change his freaking name now??? For a guy who's spent a couple weekends playing X-box with him? Fuck that. I'd get more mad, but I know she's never going to get Jace back anyhow. How does that even make sense, though? It's not like she's going to be able to change Kaiser's name. 

It was so so horrible of her to post about the pregnancy before officially telling her mom. That's why I just loved when Barb was all, "Oh well, that's nice Jenelle. Ya gonna get ya tubes tied now?" Bahahahaha! Cut right to the point, Barb.  And Jace started to say something about "It's just not right", but then chickened out and went back to appeasing his womb landlord. Poor kid. He really feels like he has to make everyone happy. My heart breaks for him. 

 

Not much to say about Chelsea's scenes, but I see Aubree is still a bear to get up in the morning. Have fun come the teenage years!

[ElderPrice]

What's sadder than dumping cold soup from a can straight into a trough for your girlses to eat with their hands? The fact that the girlses seemed happy to get it. 

[AmyFarrahFowler]

32 minutes ago, Uncle JUICE said:

 

Leah saying "This vacation, I want it to be everything the girls dream of!" cut to them doing yoga on the beach. Every kid wants to do that! Worse, it's with a kid who has muscular dystrophy...no fucking wonder she doesn't want to wear a life jacket EVEN THOUGH SHE CAN"T TOUCH THE BOTTOM. The problem is that Leah and Corey both feel some level of embarrassment about her condition, for whatever reason, and they bleed that into her life. She doesn't want to wear a helment, she doesn't want to wear a life jacket, she doesn't want to be in her chair...yeah, I get all that, she's six. She doesn't want to be different. It's heartbreaking. But you HAVE to find a way to tell her no, you are doing this because this is what the doctors said. I go back to something I said a while ago: in forty years, if you're Corey or Leah, you might come across the thought that something you did might have caused her more pain than necessary, sooner than necessary, could have negatively affected her already challenging life. And YOU contributed to it in a negative way. I could never live with that as a parent. Not for one second. Also, big episode for Leah's gross hands.  

 

BRAVO! This was pretty much the script my mind was playing as I watched that scene. They don't get it. They never will.

Funniest scene of the night? The shirt Leah's sister was wearing. "Keep Calm And Don't Do Drugs". Coming from her that just don't make sense y'all!

Cuteness overload was Aubree's first day of school picture with that giant bow and her glasses. That kid just keeps getting sweeter.

Addie yelling Namastee! to the yoga instructor at the end of the lesson.

[ghoulina]

10 hours ago, Christina87 said:

I wonder why, exactly, Jenelle was so intent on not telling Barb until the last second. David has to be as controlling as everyone says he is. Remember when Nathan and Jenelle announced that they were just trying? Nathan's an open book, and Jenelle totally takes on the personality of every guy she gets with. 

Barb said on the after show that David kicked her out of the hospital room. He's definitely intent on keeping Jenelle isolated, IMO. 

 

10 hours ago, Christina87 said:

Is it just me, or does Jenelle not truly seem happy about this pregnancy? I mean, I get the world's negative reaction bringing you down, but she can't be surprised about that. The extent of her dead eyes on the way to get the sonogram were really te

Jenelle ALWAYS looks like that. She had the same dead look when Kai was born. She SAYS the right things, but there's no genuine emotion behind it. Homegirl is a straight sociopath. 

 

10 hours ago, Juniebaby said:

I've been noticing lately that Jace is getting a nervous tic.  He is frequently blinking his eyes, but not in a natural way, its more of a nervous tic.  This kid is always being put in the middle and it is really affecting him.

I noticed that last week and it really REALLY bothered me. It seems to be most prevalent when people are asking him questions. That poor boy needs to be in therapy. 

[teapot]

10 hours ago, Ffiferoo said:

Watching Jace decide that it wasn't worth it to tell Jenelle his actual feelings about the pregnancy and just switch over to saying "yes" to all of her questions was pretty telling. 

THIS!  He started to say something (I can't remember what exactly, something like "you always do this..." ) and then immediately switched.  Poor little dude. Thank goodness he has Barb.

[Uncle JUICE]

I found it oddly ironic that Jenelle wanted to do those weird "Last Known Photo" baby announcement pictures to avoid the news of the pregnancy getting out in police reports, which she classified as "The trashiest way to announce it." We know Barb found out about the police report already, but it's some sort of trash-compound-interest to then have to endure people at her job telling her her deadbeat daughter is pregnant on top of it, yikes. That lady ought to move the fuck away and make Jenelle really fight for Jace in court or quit it altogether. My heart sinks for that kid. 

[Linny]

I am SCREAMING at the irony of Victoria wearing a "Keep Calm and Stay Drug Free!" shirt while in a scene with Leah. This family provides so many unintentional funny moments. I also loved Leah reminding the girls that MTV doesn't count as adult supervision. She has clearly been reading online criticism of her parenting and is trying desperately to prove that she's actually a good mom. 

"When I get Jace back I'll change his last name to Eason, because David and I will be married." Oh, Jenelle, it's cute that you think those things will ever happen. Dream big, honey.

I didn't think I could hate Kail more than I already do, then I saw her wearing a Duke shirt. Fuck Duke. (And Kail, too.)

[poeticlicensed]

It drives me crazy that Janelle finds every  random dude on the street or social media, and within a week has them moved in and planning their life together. THen the second the guy utters the baby word, she gets knocked up. Honestly, I don't think she really wants all these kids, but she thinks that if she has a baby, that will solidify her relationship with the baby daddy. And worse, you would think that she has learned by now that having a kid doesn't ensure the guy will stick around, evidenced by her 2 prior baby daddies. I'm sure she has rationalized it that they were "bad dudes", so they have the problem, not Janelle. She must have horrible self-esteem and abandonment issues. Not that I feel sorry for her. I feel for those kids. They are the big losers here. I have noticed that when Janelle starts her prodding of Jace to come live with her, he won't make eye contact, and just says yeah to everything. It's a fucking coping mechanism, Janelle, But she is too stupid and/or obstinate to see it. Jace's only stability is Meme, I just hope Babs sticks to her guns. 

Leah is skeletal, not a good look. The yoga scene was cute, but should Allie be doing yoga? I feel so bad for her, but Leah must try to limit Allie, or she is going to get seriously injured. 

Kail and Javi are both POS IMHO. Jo is voice of reason. He's the one who says don't fight in front of his son. Good for Jo.

Chelsea, snore.  

[poopchute]

1 hour ago, ElderPrice said:

What's sadder than dumping cold soup from a can straight into a trough for your girlses to eat with their hands? The fact that the girlses seemed happy to get it. 

Okay I haven't watched the episode yet so I'm not sure which of these soup descriptions are true or exaggerated.  Can someone tell me exactly what happened? Because I cannot believe this simpleton poured cold soup from a can into some kind of trough and the kids ate it with their hands.  Please someone help.

[Ljohnson1987]

Leah: I’m glad that you didn’t subject your girlses to a 24 hour flight to Mexico.  It seemed like they enjoyed California.  I thought it was hilarious when Leah yelled at one of the girlses and said that MTV didn’t count as an adult. So true. 

 

Kail: It’s hilarious that your ex boyfriend and ex-husband are better at co-parenting with your sons than you are.  You don’t even try. No wonder you can’t keep a man.  I love  how Jo is continually telling Isaac that Javi is going to be a part of his life, even though he and Kail aren’t together, 

 

 

Chelsea: More of the same. Cole is amazing. Adam is a douche. Blah, blah, blah.

 

Jenelle: So people found out about your pregnancy via a police report and social media? Yeah, that’s not trashy at all.  I hope Jenelle gets her tubes tied, but I doubt that’ll happen. She’ll need at least one more baby to trap the Swamp Man.  It infuriated me when Jenelle said she was going to change Jace’s last name when she got custody, and she and Dave got married.  Why should Dave have any rights to Jace? He is not his father, and I doubt the relationship will last. That was a huge F-U to Babs.  Also, I cannot imagine finding out that my child is pregnant via  a police report, and everyone knowing about it. I feel for Babs. She’s out up with too much shit, for too long. I wish she could adopt Jace, and take him far away from the chaos that his mother constantly inflicts on his life. 

[leighroda]

I try not to say what I would do if I were the parent because there isn't always a cut and dry answer and everybody is different... I know Addie is young but I feel like there maybe should have been more serious consequences for getting in the pool without an adult... I know with MTV there they were safe (probably safer than with Leah) but it's not like Leah just barely caught them getting in they were in and playing by the time she wandered over, a pool is serious and if there truly wasn't an adult they need to know that it's not ok, but she just yelled and let them move on, at this point her yelling is probably in one ear out the other. Also Ali does not get to make the decisions regarding her health, no life jacket no pool.  Ali has a muscular disease, if she were to get over her head in water she may not have the strength to get herself out. Also, I don't remember who she was talking to but they act like Ali is going to turn into a pumpkin on her 7th birthday, it's a degenerative disease, the process is already started... the dr gave 7th bday as a guideline but it's not like in December is when she is (was since this was filmed before that) going to start going downhill, maybe it won't be obvious right away but it's already happening. 

I loved Aubrees first day of school and I find it funny that they just showed the last day of school a could weeks ago... yet kails scenes Isaac just changed out of the tank top he's been wearing the last 3 weeks since her scenes were all filmed in a couple days.

[TexasGal]

22 minutes ago, poopchute said:

Okay I haven't watched the episode yet so I'm not sure which of these soup descriptions are true or exaggerated.  Can someone tell me exactly what happened? Because I cannot believe this simpleton poured cold soup from a can into some kind of trough and the kids ate it with their hands.  Please someone help.

Cold soup - yes (or at least room temp, straight out of the can).  Trough - no, they each had bowls.  With their hands - unclear.  I think they had spoons but it looked like Addie was eating with her hands.

[Uncle JUICE]

26 minutes ago, poopchute said:

 this simpleton poured cold soup from a can into some kind of trough and the kids ate it

This is pretty much what happened. But it was bowls :). Definitely cold canned soup. 

[Uncle JUICE]

Biggest issue in this episode, for me? It commits a cardinal sin. It's fucking BORING. Jo's segments were the best ones because it made me feel like there was someone on this show who understood adult life, what it means to be a parent, etc. But beyond that, WHAT HAPPENED? Nothing. Except for Jenelle's emotional abuse of her son at the end. I can't wait for this to be cancelled. 

[Mkay]

For Leah, MTV counted when she couldn't find her keys and needed to scream in the basement.  MTV counted when Ali fell out of the swing and hit her head on the ground while Leah had her back to her talking to Chassity.  All of a sudden MTV as adult supervision doesn't count? 

[lezlers]

Haven't gotten a chance to read the thread yet but was I the only one DYING laughing at Victoria's drug free shirt?  I...omg...can't...breathe...laughing...too....hard...again.....

[heatherchandler]

3 hours ago, Uncle JUICE said:

The problem is that Leah and Corey both feel some level of embarrassment about her condition, for whatever reason, and they bleed that into her life. She doesn't want to wear a helment, she doesn't want to wear a life jacket, she doesn't want to be in her chair...yeah, I get all that, she's six. She doesn't want to be different. It's heartbreaking. But you HAVE to find a way to tell her no, you are doing this because this is what the doctors said. I go back to something I said a while ago: in forty years, if you're Corey or Leah, you might come across the thought that something you did might have caused her more pain than necessary, sooner than necessary, could have negatively affected her already challenging life. And YOU contributed to it in a negative way. I could never live with that as a parent. Not for one second. Also, big episode for Leah's gross hands.  

I am also reminded of something someone else on this board said - the heart is a muscle.  If she pushes her muscles now, and they start to quickly weaken, the heart will also weaken.  Does she not realize that she is hastening her daughter's death?  It is not just that she will have trouble walking, but she could die.  Corey always talks about how he will walk her down the aisle at her wedding... but she will not make it to her wedding if they continue to let her run around.

I feel like that was not explained to her.  Maybe she needs someone to translate what her doctor is saying, she is not understanding it.  They obviously know that she will lose function, and I think they feel like it is worth it to let her have a good childhood.  But do they still think it is worth it if she is looking at early death?

 

3 hours ago, ghoulina said:

 

Jo continues to be massively impressive. I loved the way he addressed the fighting situation with both Kail and Javi. He let it be known that it wasn't cool, but he did it in a very calm, classy manner. He stressed how serious it was for the sake of the kids, first and foremost, and I was pleased to see he didn't get any resistance. I hope those two can keep their fighting more private in the future. But I think as long as Isaac has Jo going to bat for him, he stands a decent chance of not being broken by this. I was just so happy to see all the kids and dads getting together and putting their differences aside. 

But meeting for ice cream at 5:30? Really? 

 

Very impressed with Jo. 

Yeah that is a bit late for ice cream - do these people not care if their kids ever go to sleep?

 

1 hour ago, leighroda said:

Also, I don't remember who she was talking to but they act like Ali is going to turn into a pumpkin on her 7th birthday, it's a degenerative disease, the process is already started... the dr gave 7th bday as a guideline but it's not like in December is when she is (was since this was filmed before that) going to start going downhill, maybe it won't be obvious right away but it's already happening. 

Yeah the way the new friend said it was like, "well her birthday is coming up in december, so what will happen then??"  I think even Leah was like, huh? nothing will happen on the DAY of her seventh birthday!

Edited February 7, 2017 by heatherchandler

[Tara Ariano]

In case you missed it, here's the Previously.TV post on the episode!

Chelsea Drives Away From A Parenting Storm On Teen Mom 2

This week and every week: lots of cute kids, lots of hurt feelings, lots of doubt that MTV started a therapy fund.

[GreatKazu]

56 minutes ago, Mkay said:

For Leah, MTV counted when she couldn't find her keys and needed to scream in the basement.  MTV counted when Ali fell out of the swing and hit her head on the ground while Leah had her back to her talking to Chassity.  All of a sudden MTV as adult supervision doesn't count? 

That was Leah's way of telling off the haterz who have blasted her - rightly so - about her leaving the kids in the care of the MTV crew over the seasons. It just came off as if she was making sure to let the viewers know that she is the #bestmomever and she never leaves her kids unattended.

Uncle Dave said something last night that just gave me the heebie jeebies. He told Jenelle that he could see Ensley's name on a huge billboard. Umm...you mean like the ones where missing people's faces are plastered? Yikes!!

I didn't realize 5:30 p.m. is late to eat ice cream. Maybe we do things differently here in So. Cal. We can go out and eat ice cream as late as 7 p.m.  Our weather allows us to enjoy things such as ice cream in the evening. We have an ice cream business near our house. It is nice to sometimes go take a walk over there and eat the ice cream on the walk back.

Edited February 7, 2017 by GreatKazu

[MissMel]

9 hours ago, Racj82 said:

I busted it out laughing when barb hid all pretense and was just like "get those rubes tied" do everyone a favor. Right at the dinner table and in front of the kids. No fucks to give anymore.

Me too.  And poor Jace "do you want to live with me and the whole family, in a big house?"  Yes, dipshit Jenelle, but his whole family includes his mom.  Yours doesn't.  Mom is the same person in this situation, her name is Babs.

11 hours ago, WhosThatGirl said:

Is Jo the Gary of TM 2?

yes

[politichick]

3 hours ago, ElderPrice said:

What's sadder than dumping cold soup from a can straight into a trough for your girlses to eat with their hands? The fact that the girlses seemed happy to get it. 

I know, right? I was like, this bitch is not going to even heat up the soup? Leah is a real sloth.

Jace, Jace, Jace. Jenelle needs to stop asking him these stupid questions. Thankfully he knows that Barb will fight for him so he can tell that crazy cow of a mother whatever she wants to hear as long as he stays where he is.

[MissMel]

12 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

Uncle Dave said something last night that just gave me the heebie jeebies. He told Jenelle that he could see Ensley's name on a huge billboard. Umm...you mean like the ones where missing people's faces are plastered? Yikes!!

Yep, with a big ole MISSING/Amber Alert banner.

 

1 hour ago, lezlers said:

Haven't gotten a chance to read the thread yet but was I the only one DYING laughing at Victoria's drug free shirt?

Haha, keep trying Vic, keep trying.  

[Mambo Gladys]

I love how right after walking out of the sonogram, Jenelle says she is getting her girl and now she can be done having kids. I was like, YES! Finally something good comes out of her mouth. Then Creepy Dave starts getting in her ear and by the time Barb asks her, Jenelle is back to, I don't know, maybe more kids. Barb did have the line of the night though, "So you gonna get your tubes tied now?!" All hail Barb! 

[Mambo Gladys]

Jenelle to Barb: We didn't really tell anyone yet, just put it on social media.

REALLY? So you only told your whatever million followers, but that's hardly anyone. 

[GreatKazu]

3 hours ago, saratothej said:

I love how right after walking out of the sonogram, Jenelle says she is getting her girl and now she can be done having kids. I was like, YES! Finally something good comes out of her mouth. Then Creepy Dave starts getting in her ear and by the time Barb asks her, Jenelle is back to, I don't know, maybe more kids. Barb did have the line of the night though, "So you gonna get your tubes tied now?!" All hail Barb! 

Clearly Dave is not happy with his daughter, just like Tyler. Dave wants that son. Two step-sons is not going to cut it. He needs one running around that has his name, his blood running through his veins and one that he has custody of. 

ETA: thanks to Miss Mel for clarifying he has one son.

Edited February 7, 2017 by GreatKazu

[MissMel]

18 minutes ago, GreatKazu said:

I didn't realize 5:30 p.m. is late to eat ice cream. Maybe we do things differently here in So. Cal. We can go out and eat ice cream as late as 7 p.m.  Our weather allows us to enjoy things such as ice cream in the evening. We have an ice cream business near our house. It is nice to sometimes go take a walk over there and eat the ice cream on the walk back.

I didn't realize it, either.  I'm in Florida but even when we lived in Iowa, or visited Iowa, we'd walk down to get ice cream in the evenings.  G'pa used to give me money and tell me to "just cut through this lady's yard and then that lady's yard and you'll be right there!"  He laughed at the look on my face.  You could get shot doing that around here!  He just laughed and said "Just do it and go get your ice cream.  Your're home now, not in Florida."  He was right.  And both of those ladies came outside to say hello and find out who I was.  (To their delight, Lil Jim's girl and Big Jim's granddaughter)  Happy times.

[Uncle JUICE]

2 minutes ago, saratothej said:

Jenelle to Barb: We didn't really tell anyone yet, just put it on social media.

REALLY? So you only told your whatever million followers, but that's hardly anyone. 

That whole thing comes off as just a combination of Jenelle's pathological meanness to the woman who is literally raising her child by herself, and Jenelle's inherent but unadmitted shame, knowing that she's in a rare club: 3 kids, 3 different dads, under 30. She didn't tell Barb because she's not one of the social media folks who are likely to say "Great job! Keep pumpin' out those unloved kids!" But in the end, it's still your mom. Letting her find out you're pregnant third hand, especially after she directly confronts you about it, is low rent. 

[MissMel]

1 minute ago, GreatKazu said:

Clearly Dave is not happy with his daughter, just like Tyler. Dave wants that son. Two step-sons is not going to cut it. He needs one running around that has his name and his blood running through his veins.

You mean one he can actually touch, though.  ;)  Not the one that he hugged and landed him in jail.  Forget that one.

[Mambo Gladys]

Leah really needs help dealing with Ali's disability. I get that she doesn't want her to feel different from any other kids, but the fact of the matter is, she is different.  Someone needs to explain to her that all kids are different in their own ways. You can't make a child with a disability try to fit in with everything able-bodied kids do any more than you can make a basketball star be a concert pianist, or vice versa.  They need to quit pushing her to do the same activities that Gracie does and find some activities that are special to her. What happened to that choir they had her in?  They could be like, Gracie gets to do gymnastics, and you get to do choir. They can each have their own identity and own special activities that suit them.  They need to convey that things like choir are just as important/fun/special as things like gymnastics. 

[Mambo Gladys]

Okay, this about that live after show:  Kailyn says she would be open to having another child?!  Did she forget that the main reason she says she and Javi went south is because he wanted more kids and she did not? What an idiot.  Also, she said she would not get married again. So, you're willing to have a third child by a third father, but won't marry him. That's great for the kids, way to go Kail. 

[MaggieG]

Good God, Jenelle is an awful human being. Look at the difference between Jenelle's baby announcement and Chelsea's. Chelsea made it all about Aubree and how she was going to be a big sister. Jenelle and UBT is all about them. "Look at these shitty pictures we took, can you guess why?"

[Mambo Gladys]

4 hours ago, ElderPrice said:

What's sadder than dumping cold soup from a can straight into a trough for your girlses to eat with their hands? The fact that the girlses seemed happy to get it. 

Looked like Busch's baked beans to me...not that it's any better. 

Just now, MaggieG said:

Good God, Jenelle is an awful human being. Look at the difference between Jenelle's baby announcement and Chelsea's. Chelsea made it all about Aubree and how she was going to be a big sister. Jenelle and UBT is all about them. "Look at these shitty pictures we took, can you guess why?"

I like that Marissa guessed that it meant they were getting married!  That girls knows what's up...or how things should be!  She's so cute, let's hope she takes after her mother, whoever she is, because she has to be better than Dave. 

[MissMel]

Almost forgot, ummm hello Cole!  I'm a sucker for a guy in jeans, t-shirt, and backwards cap.  He wears it well.  I was a little surprised by my cougar-ish blushing.  Haha, Adumb does not even come close even though he was basically wearing the same type outfit.  I should probably be ashamed of myself.  I'm not, but probably should be.  Now if he could just not talk...

[GreatKazu]

9 minutes ago, saratothej said:

Okay, this about that live after show:  Kailyn says she would be open to having another child?!  Did she forget that the main reason she says she and Javi went south is because he wanted more kids and she did not? What an idiot.  Also, she said she would not get married again. So, you're willing to have a third child by a third father, but won't marry him. That's great for the kids, way to go Kail. 

Kail mentioned she was open to having another child with another man when she was asked about it on Twitter. It was mentioned in an article. Agree, she is stupid.

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Looked like Busch's baked beans to me...not that it's any better. 

Cambell's Chunky Soup is what she slopped into their bowls.

Edited February 7, 2017 by GreatKazu

[Snarky McSnarky]

10 hours ago, Racj82 said:

I busted it out laughing when barb hid all pretense and was just like "get those rubes tied" do everyone a favor. Right at the dinner table and in front of the kids. No fucks to give anymore.

I know the above is simply a spellcheck moment, but I instantly imagined those two Rubes, Janelle and David, tied to a tree on their new property in rural North Carolina so they couldn't procreate anymore.

[GreatKazu]

44 minutes ago, MissMel said:

You mean one he can actually touch, though.  ;)  Not the one that he hugged and landed him in jail.  Forget that one.

Clearly I am running low on caffeine. I forgot about that kid. But then again, it isn't my kid. ;-)

19 minutes ago, Snarky McSnarky said:

I know the above is simply a spellcheck moment, but I instantly imagined those two Rubes, Janelle and David, tied to a tree on their new property in rural North Carolina so they couldn't procreate anymore.

I love how our devices take over when we post about these people.

[swishandflick]

I've got a great job and am in my 30s and still and contemplating whether it's the right time for my husband and I to have kids! I just can't with these women and their impulses. It's like having kids at a young age opened the flood gates for them and they continue to procreate with no fear about the responsibilities that come along with it.

[kira28]

Nice of Victoria looking haggard as hell to wear a shirt that says keep calm and stay drug free while clearly being high. And she wore the same shirt to the airport the next day which means she slept in it after wearing it all day.  So gross.  Probably didn't even shower.    Leah not knowing her kiss were in the pool scared the crap out of me.  If I were Jeremy I'd be terrified that additional will end up drowning when her sisters are not there to watch her.  The canned soup made me nauseous.  Those poor kids! 

Funny that people seem to generalize that dads are the deadbeat parents (and I'm not saying they can't be because my ex husband is one) but I've dated two dads who had custody of their kids and whose kids moms were lovers and it's interesting that on a show about teen moms and where the moms given every resource to make their kids lives better (money,  ample time to stay home and raise their children without a job interfering) it's the fathers who have stepped up and become the good parents.  Jo,  Corey, Jeremy  and Gary are all very loving responsible parents who have their shit together whereas their children's mothers are terrible parents.  I think having is a better parent than Kail as, well.  Kail clearly doesn't care about her kids as evidenced to how easily she threw Issac off on Jo for a week and when Jo meets up with Kail she doesn't even ask how Issac is doing!  Her children are only important to her as pawns.  

Was that Maddy girl who went on vacation with Leah on something too?  Her emotions seemed out of whack for the conversation they were having at the restaurant. She seemed to be laughing when Leah was being serious and she talked too fast.  

Good to see Jo and having getting along.  Vee looked beautiful and she and Jo look neat and put together while Kail was a frumpy mess.  I'm sure in Karl's mind Issac is now the enemy and will be punished for still being attached to Javi. My heart breaks for him. 

My heart broke for Jace too.  Poor kid couldn't fathom Janelle having yet another child.  It's like he's being rejected all over again. He needs to know he can stay with meme.  At least he is loved there.  I wanted to kidnap him and remove him from Janelle abuse.  

[Uncle JUICE]

1 minute ago, kira28 said:

 

Good to see Jo and having getting along.  Vee looked beautiful and she and Jo look neat and put together while Kail was a frumpy mess.  I'm sure in Karl's mind Issac is now the enemy and will be punished for still being attached to Javi. My heart breaks for him. 

 

Guess who wins the all time baby body snap back award? How much do you think Kailynn secretly hates that Vee looks so good less than 18 months after having a baby, with no Dr Miami. 

[Miss Chevious]

10 minutes ago, swishandflick said:

I've got a great job and am in my 30s and still and contemplating whether it's the right time for my husband and I to have kids! I just can't with these women and their impulses. It's like having kids at a young age opened the flood gates for them and they continue to procreate with no fear about the responsibilities that come along with it.

They don't put a lot of thought into it. For most them, having a baby is a way to trap the guy they're with into staying with them, not to cement a happy marriage. Jenelle (3 times) Leah (twice!) Kail and even Chelsea are guilty of that.

Edited February 7, 2017 by Miss Chevious
Added 3 for Jenelle

[Uncle JUICE]

3 minutes ago, Miss Chevious said:

They don't put a lot of thought into it. For most them, having a baby is a way to trap the guy they're with into staying with them, not to cement a happy marriage. Jenelle, Leah (twice!) Kail and even Chelsea are guilty of that.

I can't imagine, as a father of two and a husband, that there was ever a relationship that started off as "bad" and having children turned it into "Good." I think kids can improve a relationship that's already pretty good, because they're challenging, they give you and your partner a chance to collaborate and struggle together, to succeed at something really important, to feel your way through the challenges together. But if you're in one of these relationships where you're keeping score of who's doing what, or you're throwing fits about little things, having a baby basically ensures you won't be able to repair the situation. Be careful having kids, I guess is my message, and that's from someone who fucking loves his kids. #IFeelLikeINeedAHashtagHere

[Miss Chevious]

5 minutes ago, Miss Chevious said:

They don't put a lot of thought into it. For most them, having a baby is a way to trap the guy they're with into staying with them, not to cement a happy marriage. Jenelle, Leah (twice!) Kail and even Chelsea are guilty of that.

Sorry for double post. 

[GreatKazu]

12 minutes ago, Miss Chevious said:

They don't put a lot of thought into it. For most them, having a baby is a way to trap the guy they're with into staying with them, not to cement a happy marriage. Jenelle (3 times) Leah (twice!) Kail and even Chelsea are guilty of that.

Actually for Leah it is THREE times. She had a miscarriage. 

[Mkay]

1 hour ago, MissMel said:

I didn't realize it, either.  I'm in Florida but even when we lived in Iowa, or visited Iowa, we'd walk down to get ice cream in the evenings.  G'pa used to give me money and tell me to "just cut through this lady's yard and then that lady's yard and you'll be right there!"  He laughed at the look on my face.  You could get shot doing that around here!  He just laughed and said "Just do it and go get your ice cream.  Your're home now, not in Florida."  He was right.  And both of those ladies came outside to say hello and find out who I was.  (To their delight, Lil Jim's girl and Big Jim's granddaughter)  Happy times.

Same here. My daughter and I like ice cream once the sun goes down and it isn't hot and melty outside. That's usually way past 5:30. 

[chuckity]

1 hour ago, GreatKazu said:

 

Uncle Dave said something last night that just gave me the heebie jeebies. He told Jenelle that he could see Ensley's name on a huge billboard. Umm...you mean like the ones where missing people's faces are plastered? Yikes!!

 

I think he meant those billboards along the interstate for Gentlemen's Clubs.  

[leighroda]

57 minutes ago, saratothej said:

Okay, this about that live after show:  Kailyn says she would be open to having another child?!  Did she forget that the main reason she says she and Javi went south is because he wanted more kids and she did not? What an idiot.  Also, she said she would not get married again. So, you're willing to have a third child by a third father, but won't marry him. That's great for the kids, way to go Kail. 

I swear I'm not stalking you, we just apparently watch the same shows, because I just commented on another thread to you...lol. 

I think on twitter Kail said that she would have more kids, but not with Javi because he blamed her for having a miscarriage... I have never been 100% sure of the events surrounding that... so idk, what I believe really happened, but I have a feeling we never got the whole story regarding that because it just doesn't make sense.

[Chickabiddy]

On the ice ceam thing, 5:30 is a weird time for me because isn't that around the dinner hour for young kids?  I don't like to do sweet treats before dinner. With my son, we have always done ice- cream around 3 to 4 or after dinner circa  7:00.  But different strokes. :-) 

[Miss Chevious]

Oh that girl, Maddy, that accompanied Leah in her trip to CA. She was labeled as a friend in the graphics, but isn't she Leah's little brothers's baby mama? It was her baby that Leah was holding when she so infamously nodded off on camera. Not sure if they got married or not, so she could well be her sister-in-law.

Also, I wonder how often UBT has Maryssa. Seems like she's in every episode, do they film around her visitation schedule as a ploy to make him look like an involved dad. 

[GreatKazu]

2 minutes ago, leighroda said:

I swear I'm not stalking you, we just apparently watch the same shows, because I just commented on another thread to you...lol. 

I think on twitter Kail said that she would have more kids, but not with Javi because he blamed her for having a miscarriage... I have never been 100% sure of the events surrounding that... so idk, what I believe really happened, but I have a feeling we never got the whole story regarding that because it just doesn't make sense.

And now that we know she cheated, it just adds to the uncertainty of what was going on during that period of time. We know that guy has been in Kail's life since that concert argument two seasons ago. She is then pregnant even though she said the last two years of marriage was a shithole. Why then did she think it was a good time to have a baby? Was it an oops baby? I agree, so many questions and I think there was way more to that pregnancy story that we won't be privy to. That may be a good thing. For Kail.