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I’m in the minority here and don’t see their posting on SM being a millennial thing, or just because they are on TV. I’ve had 3 close friends who have gone through something very similar. One was preg

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Is that you, Michelle?

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If a midwife did a vaginal exam and was able to tell she was 6 cm, it should’ve been reasonably easy for that same midwife to diagnose the baby as breech. It seems to me that these midwives don’t lear

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Heathen

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1 hour ago, Salacious Kitty said:

She has to take daily shots because she has two blood clotting disorders.

Maybe she actually IS turning into a Bates. The Duggars will get some random Bates sister Kelly and Gil won't miss, and the Bateses get Joy. 

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GeeGolly

GeeGolly

So pregnancy clotting disorders may not happen for each pregnancy? Everything seemed fine with Giddy. Then they lost Annabelle. They saw a high risk specialist with Evvie, which turned out to be an uneventful pregnancy. And now the clotting disorder.

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Salacious Kitty

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Joy had been diagnosed with one clotting disorder before this pregnancy. Or that's what I gathered from her video. The second clotting disorder that was just diagnosed must be the super bad one, necessitating the shot therapy to sustain the pregnancy.

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sixlets

sixlets

5 hours ago, Meow Mix said:

It's just missing the huge white lacy collar that Michelle always wore.  

I didn't read the post you quoted and initially thought you were talking about the deer.  
**Note to self-read everything in the box.**

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Notabug

Notabug

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2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

So pregnancy clotting disorders may not happen for each pregnancy? Everything seemed fine with Giddy. Then they lost Annabelle. They saw a high risk specialist with Evvie, which turned out to be an uneventful pregnancy. And now the clotting disorder.

Depends on what the problem is.  Some of them. like Factor V Leyden, are hereditary. so present since birth.  Others, like lupus anticoagulant, develop over time.  However, the majority of women with these issues do not miscarry or have stillbirths.  They are at higher risk for complications, but still have a good chance of having a healthy pregnancy and baby even if they do have them.

So, it is quite possible that Joy always had these things, but it wasn't until she had the stillbirh that she was tested and the problem diagnosed.  It is generally only after a loss that anticoagulation is recommended because of the risks involved with taking blood thinners in pregnancy and delivery.

Do we know for sure that she didn't take anticoagulant injections with Evvy?

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Salacious Kitty

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No injections until this pregnancy. She said they knew she had a clotting condition that was initials (sorry, I can't remember them), but they discovered the second one after testing this pregnancy. That's when she was put on shots.

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Heathen

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On 11/6/2022 at 8:30 PM, Salacious Kitty said:

She said they knew she had a clotting condition that was initials (sorry, I can't remember them)

MTHFR, which always makes me laugh. I think that's also what the Bateseses have. 

I have read that it's not technically a clotting disorder, but a gene mutation that can cause lots of different problems.

https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/gene/mthfr/#synonyms

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Notabug

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13 hours ago, Heathen said:

MTHFR, which always makes me laugh. I think that's also what the Bateseses have. 

I have read that it's not technically a clotting disorder, but a gene mutation that can cause lots of different problems.

https://medlineplus.gov/genetics/gene/mthfr/#synonyms

MTHFR mutations are pretty common, about 15% of white people have one.  There is an increased risk of miscarriage with it; but the vast majority of people with MTHFR never know they have it because they never have a problem.

The thought is that MTHFR can increase the risk of miscarriage by causing the blood to clot more easily with resultant clot formation in the placenta, just like Factor V Leiden.  The jury is still out on what to do about it, there are not enough studies to be sure; but, at the very least, women with MTHFR are often told to take a daily baby aspirin while pregnant and, over the past few years, it's become more popular to use daily injections of low molecular weight heparin.

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Salacious Kitty

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2 hours ago, Notabug said:

MTHFR mutations are pretty common, about 15% of white people have one.  There is an increased risk of miscarriage with it; but the vast majority of people with MTHFR never know they have it because they never have a problem.

The thought is that MTHFR can increase the risk of miscarriage by causing the blood to clot more easily with resultant clot formation in the placenta, just like Factor V Leiden.  The jury is still out on what to do about it, there are not enough studies to be sure; but, at the very least, women with MTHFR are often told to take a daily baby aspirin while pregnant and, over the past few years, it's become more popular to use daily injections of low molecular weight heparin.

Joy mentioned she had been taking baby aspirin before her second diagnosis. MTHFR was her first diagnosis.

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SMama

SMama

15 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

She's pimping the tablet. 🙄

Yes, that was an ad for the tablet. Joy is so painfully inarticulate I have second hand embarrassment. When is Alyssa going to pimp the tablets?

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Nysha

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There are a couple established xtian homeschool curriculums that have online preschool curriculum that is supposed to be supplemented with workbooks and hands-on activities. Joy is probably using one of those without the supplements.

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SMama

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1 hour ago, Lady Whistleup said:

Joys SM is getting more and more "curated" with sponsorships. 

They have a third child on the way and two kids in diapers. If they are using the same so called insurance as Jessa and Jinger the out of pocket visits to a specialist will quickly add up.

If they have distanced themselves from JB (especially after publicly agreeing with the verdict and sentence) he may not be as generous spreading around the money he made off his kids’s backs. Or the FF has really drained the family pot with his legal bills. She is still horrible at pimping. The perils of counting on TV fame instead of pursuing a trade or higher education. 

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Ljohnson1987

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37 minutes ago, SMama said:

They have a third child on the way and two kids in diapers. If they are using the same so called insurance as Jessa and Jinger the out of pocket visits to a specialist will quickly add up.

If they have distanced themselves from JB (especially after publicly agreeing with the verdict and sentence) he may not be as generous spreading around the money he made off his kids’s backs. Or the FF has really drained the family pot with his legal bills. She is still horrible at pimping. The perils of counting on TV fame instead of pursuing a trade or higher education. 

If they need money, they should get jobs. What a foreign concept. 

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Notabug

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11 minutes ago, crazycatlady58 said:

Austin has a job.

Then he either needs a better one or Joy needs one.   If they're not making enough to pay their bills, they could do what the rest of us do:  find a way to make more money.

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Salacious Kitty

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2 minutes ago, Notabug said:

Then he either needs a better one or Joy needs one.   If they're not making enough to pay their bills, they could do what the rest of us do:  find a way to make more money.

They seem to be doing just fine. They just took a trip to Alaska. Austin is elk hunting in Colorado this week. They went to Alaska just as Joy fired up the social media after a long absence. She said they saved for a while for the Alaska trip 

They just appear to want more. At least she's not shilling the same stuff as her sisters or Carlin, so maybe she can make more money. 

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ginger90

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9 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

At least she's not shilling the same stuff as her sisters or Carlin, so maybe she can make more money. 

She’s shilling the same damn tablet as Carlin.

Did I mention I’m sick of that freaking tablet? 😁

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Salacious Kitty

Salacious Kitty

4 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

She’s shilling the same damn tablet as Carlin.

Did I mention I’m sick of that freaking tablet? 😁

Oh I missed that. Carlin shills lots of tablets. Her latest is Nutrifol, the miracle hair growth treatment. Shit's not cheap 

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farmgal4

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2 hours ago, SMama said:

They have a third child on the way and two kids in diapers. If they are using the same so called insurance as Jessa and Jinger the out of pocket visits to a specialist will quickly add up.

If they have distanced themselves from JB (especially after publicly agreeing with the verdict and sentence) he may not be as generous spreading around the money he made off his kids’s backs. Or the FF has really drained the family pot with his legal bills. She is still horrible at pimping. The perils of counting on TV fame instead of pursuing a trade or higher education. 

Gideon is still in diapers??!?

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farmgal4

farmgal4

1 hour ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Oh I missed that. Carlin shills lots of tablets. Her latest is Nutrifol, the miracle hair growth treatment. Shit's not cheap 

Nutrafol is $150/month, I think.  I’m sure she gets a pretty decent discount since she’s advertising it.

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SMama

SMama

42 minutes ago, farmgal4 said:

Gideon is still in diapers??!?

I could be wrong.

6 minutes ago, Lady Whistleup said:

For whatever reason Joy seems to take extreme pride in this pregnancy.

The reason is that Joy finds herself in an extra special season of life.

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GeeGolly

GeeGolly

I'm pretty sure Carlin, Whitney, Jessa and now Joy have shilled the tablet, I think for as much as 70% off. Has Josie shilled it too?

Jessa's ad was so bad - Henry's tablet was missing the attached stylus so he was using a closed, same color Sharpie. We're onto you Jessa, we're onto you.

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Cinnabon

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6 hours ago, SMama said:

They have a third child on the way and two kids in diapers. If they are using the same so called insurance as Jessa and Jinger the out of pocket visits to a specialist will quickly add up.

If they have distanced themselves from JB (especially after publicly agreeing with the verdict and sentence) he may not be as generous spreading around the money he made off his kids’s backs. Or the FF has really drained the family pot with his legal bills. She is still horrible at pimping. The perils of counting on TV fame instead of pursuing a trade or higher education. 

Then Austin should work more. 

5 hours ago, crazycatlady58 said:

Austin has a job.

Yet Joy is pimping like crazy, even exploiting her son’s “education.” 

5 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

They seem to be doing just fine. They just took a trip to Alaska. Austin is elk hunting in Colorado this week. They went to Alaska just as Joy fired up the social media after a long absence. She said they saved for a while for the Alaska trip 

They just appear to want more. At least she's not shilling the same stuff as her sisters or Carlin, so maybe she can make more money. 

I’m not convinced that Austin does as much paying work as some seem to think.

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SMama

SMama

1 hour ago, Lady Whistleup said:

Joy is now shilling a party pack called "Jesus's birthday party." Her SM rapidly becoming an infomercial.

I remember home made Happy Birthday Jesus! signs at the TTH during Christmas. This is just the G2 version. Either Joy is being bombarded by ad opportunities or she’s hustling because they need the money. 🤷‍♀️ 

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