S06.E08: Chapter 8

[Tara Ariano]

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[Last Time Lord]

God. Damn. What an episode!

Monet is still alive, right? I know some Polks were chasing her, but I don't recall if they showed the conclusion to that.

[Pixel]

I'm still convinced Lee is the survivor. But now I'm not so sure they were telling the truth when they said only one survives. 

[Last Time Lord]

1 minute ago, Pixel said:

I'm still convinced Lee is the survivor. But now I'm not so sure they were telling the truth when they said only one survives. 

Typical marketing...

[rustyspigot]

Don't destroy the house! Its my favorite character.

I'm kind of attached to the one hillbilly who is still alive who I think was the son on Kate and Allie. I'm glad he still gets jobs if that's him.

So the Roanoke people go on full attack until they don't I guess? OK.

[Madding crowd]

Which one was Finn Witrock? 

[Straycat80]

Monet is still alive, so far anyway, the Polks were still chasing her in the woods. 

Who was the guy at the door in the pig head at the end? I couldn't understand what Audrey said, Gillian? 

[morgankobi]

Like going back to the house for the second "season," I can't buy Lee really wanting to go back for the tape. (If she had stuck with that being the only place to find a vehicle, maybe. But, there should be a car or two at the production trailer.) Perhaps a few days later, but maybe try to survive first. Sure, she confessed to murder, but she could easily say that she was lying just to give her daughter some closure. Although that was extremely selfish and in no way is good/healthy for her daughter- Geez! 

Edited November 3, 2016 by morgankobi

[rustyspigot]

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Who was the guy at the door in the pig head at the end? I couldn't understand what Audrey said, Gillian? 

The guy who played the butchers son. AKA Wes Bentley

[mortonsalt]

1 minute ago, Last Time Lord said:

God. Damn. What an episode!

Monet is still alive, right? I know some Polks were chasing her, but I don't recall if they showed the conclusion to that.

Yes, as far as I know Monet and the Polks that were chasing her are still alive.

I can't believe I went from hoping Lee was going to be the last survivor because of her badassness at the Polks to hoping that she doesn't after she kicked out Dominick to die and would put Audrey in danger just because she wants to erase the confession that she made.

I think Pixel maybe right in that there isn't a survivor and that there's some kind of twist in how the lone survivor thing was written.

[Tara Ariano]

3 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

Monet is still alive, so far anyway, the Polks were still chasing her in the woods. 

Who was the guy at the door in the pig head at the end? I couldn't understand what Audrey said, Gillian? 

I think she said Dylan. It was Wes Bentley, who played the Butcher's son originally.

[morgankobi]

2 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

Monet is still alive, so far anyway, the Polks were still chasing her in the woods. 

Who was the guy at the door in the pig head at the end? I couldn't understand what Audrey said, Gillian? 

The "actor" who played the butcher's son. Like I thought, other actors are probably set to show-up (pre-arranged by Syd) at different times to create DRAMA.

Edited November 3, 2016 by morgankobi

[Last Time Lord]

4 minutes ago, Madding crowd said:

Which one was Finn Witrock? 

I think Jether, the one that was getting squicky with Lee.

[TobinAlbers]

Lee surviving only to end up in prison for killing her husband would be the ultimately irony. Although I could see the ghost of her husband getting his revenge and killing her before she leaves. Then again GhostMatt may run interference so she can leave- but still end up in prison.

I could also see someone they think is dead actually being alive and just running away into hiding.

Lee was badass and cold blooded. Dominic had many reasons to bail and leave Shelby since she was dead weight but he never did and in the end he pays the price for sticking around. He played at being a villain but Lee...she's a heroine and an unintentional villain rolled into one.

Just when we were down to 3 survivors they add a new person to the mix. I'm guessing Denis O'Hare's actor character may also make an appearance as well as the medium that was gutted.

Shelby killed herself on the land so is she now going to be a ghost that haunts the house along with Matt? She basically consigned herself to a torturous afterlife chasing a man who wants to be with his witch girlfriend.

I'm thinking the finale will involve the new ghosts either trying to aid or stop the remaining survivors from leaving the house on top of the Butcher and her crew.

Gotta hand it to the show - they hit on a refreshing and scary setup with nice twists and turns. The theme of dying for fame/ratings and living through TV is interesting. When Polk boy was like 'This is America! We've got TV' you had to chortle.

[morgankobi]

I was thrown off by the multiple camera angles at the Polks. In the house it makes sense because we know cameras are mounted in every room, but there would need to be multiple cameras in the barns in addition to the handheld cameras (and phone) the boys were using.

I guess that fact that we are watching the "found footage" implies Lee's stupid plan to go back to get the tape doesn't work...

Edited November 3, 2016 by morgankobi

[peridot]

I was cringing when Finn Polk was filming Lee's boobs, but I didn't expect for him to try and molest her.  That situation went to a surprising turn.

Damn, I felt bad for Dominic.  His so-called friend didn't try and defend him from Lee. 

[Petunia13]

Lee has always been self serving 

[Last Time Lord]

Are we to believe that Lee's confession was the truth, or could she have been saying what people have already been saying as an attempt to give her daughter a form of closure?

[rustyspigot]

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Which one was Finn Witrock? 

I think Jether, the one that was getting squicky with Lee.

My guess too. Ryan Murphy made him deformed, but he won't deform a nice ass. I agree with him in that aspect.

[morgankobi]

I think Flora will be much more well-adjusted thinking her parents were killed by weirdos in the woods than she would be growing up knowing her mom murdered her dad for her. Way to add guilt in there, Lee!

And if Lee survives, watch your back, Grandma!

Edited November 3, 2016 by morgankobi

[Straycat80]

2 minutes ago, Last Time Lord said:

Are we to believe that Lee's confession was the truth, or could she have been saying what people have already been saying as an attempt to give her daughter a form of closure?

I was wondering that too. Was she really capable of literally killing her ex? Wasn't he up in a tree or something? She did that all by herself? 

Lee is pretty strong I guess, she fought off the Polks, saved Audrey, ran through the woods and made it up the staircase all after being chopped up and high on coke. 

[Pixel]

9 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

I was wondering that too. Was she really capable of literally killing her ex? Wasn't he up in a tree or something? She did that all by herself? 

Lee is pretty strong I guess, she fought off the Polks, saved Audrey, ran through the woods and made it up the staircase all after being chopped up and high on coke. 

In reality she wouldn't have had time or enough strength to do that. In this show? Who knows?

[WhosThatGirl]

I really love everything about this season. Also this season has me downright laughing at times. I love Sarah Paulson so much. "Noooo Shelby! I feel like a part of me has died with her!" And her "Shelby is too self centered to kill herself" her video tapped goodbye, her speech about how dead Dominic was such a great scene partner. It's almost making me forgive the British accent.

[kelslamu]

I can not stand listening to Audrey!  She really takes me out of the scene.  I'm not sure she's even sticking to one accent.  I know I would have smacked her to shut her up more than once.  

[OldButHappy]

1 hour ago, TobinAlbers said:

She basically consigned herself to a torturous afterlife chasing a man who wants to be with his witch girlfriend.

Sounds like several of my friends.......    ;)

[Valny]

11 minutes ago, WhosThatGirl said:

I really love everything about this season. Also this season has me downright laughing at times. I love Sarah Paulson so much. "Noooo Shelby! I feel like a part of me has died with her!" And her "Shelby is too self centered to kill herself" her video tapped goodbye, her speech about how dead Dominic was such a great scene partner. It's almost making me forgive the British accent.

And did you see when she was fixing her hair in the camera? :)

When the Polk guy started carving into Lee I got the shivers.... you didn't see anything but it still made me go eeeeee!!

I'm not used to this kind of acting/character from Paulson. Her Audrey is self centered and over emotional(?) she's playing it broad I think, but sometimes it just comes off as bad acting... which is blasphemy  to think because I think she is an amazing actress and I love her on this show... But  it's  just the character that is bad acting, not Sarah.  I'm not explaining it well. Leaving now.

[Gemma Violet]

I wish there weren't so many darkly-lit scenes.  Combine that with the jiggly camera work, and it was hard to follow some of the action, especially in the beginning.

[Cigale]

44 minutes ago, WhosThatGirl said:

It's almost making me forgive the British accent.

 

24 minutes ago, Valny said:

I'm not used to this kind of acting/character from Paulson. Her Audrey is self centered and over emotional(?) she's playing it broad I think, but sometimes it just comes off as bad acting... which is blasphemy  to think because I think she is an amazing actress and I love her on this show... But  it's  just the character that is bad acting, not Sarah.  I'm not explaining it well. Leaving now.

I also think Audrey is supposed to be a bad actress.  That would also explain this:

47 minutes ago, kelslamu said:

'm not sure she's even sticking to one accent.  

 I would also like to add that it's the first episode that I really liked...

[WhosThatGirl]

Considering it's Sarah who's playing Audrey, I'm wondering if Audrey is the main survivor and everything about Audrey is an act? I wouldn't be surprised.

[Jade Foxx]

That was way harsh, Tai. 

Too gory. 

[califred]

For some of this episode it was like Audrey had no fake British accent.

 

the teeth pulling weirded me out.

[Andromeda]

3 hours ago, WhosThatGirl said:

I really love everything about this season. Also this season has me downright laughing at times. I love Sarah Paulson so much. "Noooo Shelby! I feel like a part of me has died with her!" And her "Shelby is too self centered to kill herself" her video tapped goodbye, her speech about how dead Dominic was such a great scene partner. It's almost making me forgive the British accent.

How about her "I can't die, I have too many performances yet to share with my fans!" (or something of that nature)

[Anela]

I missed parts of it, because it was too gory. I think I want to watch the last three episodes together, though, at some point - just because they have been pretty scary. 

"We're going to make bone broth" made me laugh. So gross, though. 

[CourtneyCourt]

2 hours ago, califred said:

For some of this episode it was like Audrey had no fake British accent.

 

the teeth pulling weirded me out.

Right. Of all the scenes so far I had to look away from the teeth pulling. 

Shudder. 

[luna1122]

Why does Ryan like hiding the pretty boys under ugly wigs, pig heads and inbred features this season? Glad to have Wes back, tho.

I'm one of the few who, tho I thought he was a terrible OJ, liked Cuba this season, and I felt really bad for him when his former friend and co-star--he was even at her wedding--turned on him and forced him out into the hallway to get slaughtered by the Piggy Man (who presumably is NOT wes Bentley). I was rooting for cocksure Dominic to be the only survivor.

Okay, I was honestly shocked at Lee's admission that she did, in fact, kill Mason. How did she rig his body up in that...whatever it was? She's a tough bitch, but I really never believed she could have done it for just that reason. Her finding Matt in the basement was fairly devastating. And I know a lot of women and men would love to do a love scene with Finn Wittrock, but ew, that was so gross.

Audrey is the worst, but sort of hilarious. Managing to be pretentious and full of herself while trying to escape sure death is quite a feat.

My honey went to the dentist yesterday and had some residual pain, so he was particularly queasy watching all the teeth pulling stuff. That was really hard to watch.

I have no idea who the last man or woman standing is going to be this season. I had thought, like many, that it would be Lee too, but I'm not rooting for her now that we know she killed Mason. I guess she could survive...and wind up in prison.

[Pixel]

I'm no Lee defender. I don't like the character, even though I think she's the survivor. However, I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that she lied about killing Mason in order to give her daughter closure.  But, since I seriously doubt that Lee lying about that is a significant plot twist, she's probably not lying.

[darkestboy]

Great episode for Lee. We found out she killed Mason and she managed to get away from Jether and rescue Audrey even if she was coked up and lost an ear.

Audrey is hilariously self absorbed and I can do without the crying but her comments about Shelby's death and defying Mama Polk, who I was glad to see killed in this one.

Bye, bye, Shelby and Dominic. I guess it's just Audrey, Lee and Monet left. 

Oh wait, there's Dylan too. Nice to see him perhaps. 

Only two more to go, 8/10

[Chaos Theory]

Each time I think I know how the show is going it surprises me.  I didn't think AHS could do that,. Good job Ryan Murphy. 

I am not sure Lee actually killed Mason or just said she did because she thought she was going to die but for now the storyline makes sense either way do it doesn't matter.  I was surprised at both Shelby and Dominick's quick demise I had them both pegged as contenders for survival.  I thought the funniest line was by Shelby when Dominick was trying to chear her up and she said he was a good actor.  I thought that was funny.

This whole episode reminded me a lot of the Saw franchise which I didn't originally watch.  Torture porn not being my thing but I caught on Netflix when they streamed for awhile.  Same concept running from one horror to another with no real way out.

Edited November 3, 2016 by Chaos Theory
2nd paragraph Autocorrect mistakes

[Last Time Lord]

5 hours ago, CourtneyCourt said:

Right. Of all the scenes so far I had to look away from the teeth pulling. 

Shudder. 

Stuff being done to Teeth and eyes are the only real things that get to me.

[sugarbaker design]

28 minutes ago, Chaos Theory said:

Each time I think I know how the show is going it surprises me.  I didn't think AHS could do that,. Good job Ryan Murphy. 

Word.  This season is must-see-TV.

2 hours ago, luna1122 said:

Why does Ryan like hiding the pretty boys under ugly wigs, pig heads and inbred features this season? Glad to have Wes back, tho.

He did the same thing to gorgeous Colton Haynes on Scream Queens!

My fingers are crossed for the return of the actors played by Denis O'Hare and Leslie Jordan.

Sarah Paulson must be crying tears of joy each time she gets the script, RM and writing staff are feeding her the best lines.

[Black Knight]

11 hours ago, TobinAlbers said:

Dominic had many reasons to bail and leave Shelby since she was dead weight but he never did and in the end he pays the price for sticking around.

Except that I don't think Dominic saw Shelby as dead weight at all, so he wasn't being selfless. He kept repeatedly asking her what they should do, pointing out she had lived through this before, etc. It was clear he had no ideas himself, thought she might, and didn't want to be alone. Shelby did save him in the kitchen by stabbing the ghost who attacked him - he would have died then if not for her. And once Shelby died he did nothing but give up and sit in a corner.

I did think his end was kind of fitting (although far too harsh, of course - he wasn't EVIL) in that he set the whole chain of events that led to his death in motion by waking Shelby up and dragging her down to the basement to see her estranged husband getting it on with the wood witch. If he hadn't done that, Shelby wouldn't have killed Matt (and note Dom made zero attempt to stop her until Matt was already dead) and then herself, and Lee and Audrey wouldn't have found their dead bodies and then disbelieved Dom's story and shoved him out.

So both real and TV Shelby have gone Negan on someone now! Audrey will probably commend herself on that once she learns Shelby really did bludgeon Matt's head in.

As for the discussion about Sarah Paulson's acting, I'm quite sure that she could manage an authentic English accent if that was called for. This is purposeful. Audrey's pretentious as hell, it makes sense that she would pretend to be English - but she gets the accent wrong because she doesn't actually put the effort in. I like to think it's a slam on Gwyneth Paltrow, who rather infamously started putting on English airs the second she moved there. "Sir An-tony Hopkins," anyone?

[Primetimer]

While the Polks' captives get tenderized, Dominic and Shelby find new horrors at Hell House.

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[TobinAlbers]

11 minutes ago, Black Knight said:

Except that I don't think Dominic saw Shelby as dead weight at all, so he wasn't being selfless. He kept repeatedly asking her what they should do, pointing out she had lived through this before, etc. It was clear he had no ideas himself, thought she might, and didn't want to be alone. Shelby did save him in the kitchen by stabbing the ghost who attacked him - he would have died then if not for her. And once Shelby died he did nothing but give up and sit in a corner.

Eh, Adopting the buddy system in a time of crisis is definitely a survival tactic that may not be selfless, but it's not selfish either.  Shelby protected him, but Dominic was also protecting and taking care of her. Or trying to.  Contrast with Monet who hightailed it out of the cabin ASAP and left Audrey behind rather than untie her an arm and give her a fighting chance . As we saw, Monet going at it alone without anyone to have her back in the woods ended up with her getting caught.

Lee and Audrey also barricaded themselves in a bedroom for safety so Dominic's remaining in the bathroom with dead Shelby was actually the smart thing to do. Remember he thought Monet, Audrey, and Lee were going to come back with help. Roaming the house alone in the dark with only a crowbar and knife when he knew all the ghost were out there waiting for him would've been the dumb thing. Barricaded in the bathroom he has a smaller space to keep track of and better chance to protect himself and a chance to hold out until help arrived (as far as he knew) or the sun came up. His position behind the door actually gave him a tactical advantage as you saw when Audrey and Lee entered to find Shelby, he could see them before they saw him. If it had been a ghost or pig man he could've tried to strike from behind (as he had the knife in his hand, which Lee noted) and then be forced to make a run for it to another location. Also he was wounded and bleeding and I could buy being traumatized by Shelby killing herself the way she did.  Dude was tired.

As for not trying to stop Shelby from hitting Matt with the crowbar, for one thing it was a total shock that she attacked him the way she did and with the wild way she was swinging, Dominic had to be careful that she didn't hit him and take him out as well. Once he could anticipate her swing and approach from an angle where he wouldn't get hit, he did subdue her. Way too little too late for Matt but then the poor guy was dead practically with the first swing.

I still can't believe that was Finn playing Jethro. The uglied him up good.

And as for Lee lying on the tape to bring her daughter closure, I can buy that too. Problem is that given that it's publicly believed that she murdered her husband and she's now thinking that she may survive this, she has to get that tape back or else she's going to prison. Whether she killed him or not is moot, she's on tape confessing (albeit under duress) and if she does survive this, no one is going to buy that she just said it to give Flora closure. She'll lose Flora and go to prison.

[candall]

11 hours ago, peridot said:

I was cringing when Finn Polk was filming Lee's boobs, but I didn't expect for him to try and molest her.  That situation went to a surprising turn.

Damn, I felt bad for Dominic.  His so-called friend didn't try and defend him from Lee. 

Rly?  I was pretty sure young Raging Hormone Polk was going to engage in some of what has now entered the national dialogue as "pussy grabbing."  (Thanks so much for that, sir.)

The thing that surprised me is that the Polks are completely non-racist and discrimination-free.  As long as the vittles are sweet, they're equal opportunity cannibals.  Kudos, inbred monstrous Polk clan! 

I felt bad for Dominic, too.  Survive umpteen supernatural attacks only to have your co-survivors jump to an incorrect conclusion and arrange for you to die anyway.  I'm subtracting mega-points for that one, Lee.

 

Hello, Chens.  I thought it was interesting that the Chens wanted to assimilate, but their ghosts defaulted to classic Asian horror movie behavior--skittering along the walls and ceilings with impossibly-angled scary blank faces.  We're no longer all that crazy about the US.

[Chaos Theory]

5 minutes ago, candall said:

 

The thing that surprised me is that the Polks are completely non-racist and discrimination-free.  As long as the vittles are sweet, they're equal opportunity cannibals.  Kudos, inbred monstrous Polk clan! 

 

If you ain't Polk you ain't people.  It's simple.  It's ellogant.  

Although that does bring a whole lot of questions to Jethro wanting to sex up Lee but then he was treating her almost like people....youngins.

Edited November 3, 2016 by Chaos Theory

[LoneHaranguer]

If the Polks can bribe the cops that well, why couldn't they outbid Matt on the house?

[TobinAlbers]

21 minutes ago, Chaos Theory said:

If you ain't Polk you ain't people.  It's simple.  It's ellogant.  

Although that does bring a whole lot of questions to Jethro wanting to sex up Lee but then he was treating her almost like people....youngins.

If you ain't Polk, you ain't people.

According to Mama Polk they don't fornicate with animals.

And yet Jethro was about to get freaky with Lee who they kept referring to as 'It' to devalue her to less than human aka animal.  So Jethro really was committing a no no.

Also between their creed and what Jethro said about one of his older brothers 'gets Mama's bed' while the younger still got to suckle with him (Jethro) stuck in the middle getting nothing, they pretty much confirmed they all breed with Mama and not with outsiders so that is a REALLY foul gene pool.

[tennisgurl]

Why oh WHY would they cover up the hotness of Finn with all that ugly makeup? Ryan Murphy, you got issues dude. 

But, looking past that travesty, this was a super intense episode, and I am actually on board with this season again. The middle was shaky, but I am enjoying the last few episodes and how we are getting towards the end. Now, can they stick the landing? 

I will say, I am really confused by Lee`s confession. Was that for real? Why would she lie? But how the hell did she do it? Lee is a strong lady, but strong enough to light a fully grown man on fire, then pulling him into a tree and sticking him up there? Thats pretty damn intense, especially considering the guys only crime was trying to keep his kid for justifiable reasons. 

The ghosts are so creepy now, its much appreciated. They all look so inhuman now. I thought being killed and stuck in murder house forever sucked, but at least those ghosts pretty much looked like they did when they were alive, and acted pretty normal. These spirits are like monsters. No way would I die there!

1 hour ago, candall said:

The thing that surprised me is that the Polks are completely non-racist and discrimination-free.  As long as the vittles are sweet, they're equal opportunity cannibals.

Hey, they have TV! They're sophisticated people! 

[iMonrey]

So let me get this straight. We only get 2 episodes with Evan Peters, 2 episodes with Cheyenne Jackson, and then they go and make Finn Wittrock look like that? WTF show?

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I think Jether, the one that was getting squicky with Lee.

That's what Lee was calling him but he's listed as "Cain Polk" in IMDB.com for some reason.

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I can not stand listening to Audrey! 

Sarah Paulson's crying voice is annoying as hell. I remember that from Asylum and Coven too.

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Shelby did save him in the kitchen by stabbing the ghost who attacked him

Just think about that sentence for a minute. :-)

I kind of wish the whole season had just been this. A group of people gathered to spend time in a famously haunted house with TV cameras mounted everywhere for a reality show. This works. It's still awfully derivative, but it works on a horror level. The first five episodes felt pointless to me and seem even more so in retrospect.

[candall]

5 minutes ago, Chaos Theory said:

If you ain't Polk you ain't people.

Well, now that you mention it, I was wrong and the Polks do have an "Us vs. Them" history of discrimination.

I just tend to forget that "to discriminate" isn't always a bad thing.  Like here--I'd pretty much have to take up a firm position on the non-Polkian side of the dividing line.