Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[ginger90]

His own words aren't any better. It's as if he doesn't know what he has said in the past, or what he is saying at the moment. One tweet contradicts the next.

https://mobile.twitter.com/derick4Him/status/911337882421387264?p=v

[toodles]

28 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

His own words aren't any better. It's as if he doesn't know what he has said in the past, or what he is saying at the moment. One tweet contradicts the next.

https://mobile.twitter.com/derick4Him/status/911337882421387264?p=v

Oh never mind.  Get a job, asshole and shut up.  That is all.

[Sew Sumi]

Oh, Derelict. You don't know the rules of free speech, do you? You have the right to say stupid things; we have the obligation to call you an idiot. That's how people make informed decisions. Being protected doesn't mean you're free from dissent, you moron. No one is stopping you from opening your piehole or taking to Twitter with your brand of passive-aggressive Bible verses. Today, all women are sluts whose job it is to tempt men into sin. Niiice.

Edited September 23, 2017 by Sew Sumi

[DangerousMinds]

Clearly, he has no real understanding of free speech.

[Future Cat Lady]

I wonder if he posts these things knowing/hoping that he will get negative & hateful comments. That way he can tell his fundie friends that he's being persecuted by the evil liberals. 

[Absolom]

Derick needs How the World Works 101.

[MonicaM]

Even though many of the comments are negative, he probably thinks he's doing the Lord's work because he's getting people to read the Bible.  And of course, he most likely also believes that nasty comments on his posts is exactly the same type of suffering as the early Christians who were eaten by lions.

[Churchhoney]

5 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

"The mouth of forbidden women is a deep pit; he with whom the Lord is angry will fall into it." (Proverbs 22:14)

?? When God is pissed he pushes a man toward forbidden women? Isn't that the devil's job?

And God sayeth, "Why should Satan haveth all the fun?'

[EarlGreyTea]

Derick seems like such an angry man. I'd feel bad for him if he wasn't such a self-righteous, ignorant bigot. Why on earth would anyone want to convert to your religion when you're constantly spewing ignorance and intolerance? He's about as effective as the Hare Krishnas in the airports. Isn't the love of God supposed to fill you with peace? As I like to say, the punishment for being a miserable person is having to live inside your own head. I see no need to even reply to him on Twitter because of this (though I highly enjoy some of the zingers people come up with).

I'd pray for him but he doesn't like us Catholics, so stick a rosary up your ass, Derick. Not that there isn't already a stick up there.

[EVS]

2 hours ago, Future Cat Lady said:

I wonder if he posts these things knowing/hoping that he will get negative & hateful comments. That way he can tell his fundie friends that he's being persecuted by the evil liberals. 

I think that is exactly what he is doing, and I'm also starting to suspect that he gets off on the negative comments. I'm guessing that, after he reads them, Jill is expected to be "joyfully available". (Slinking off to the prayer closet now...)

Edited September 23, 2017 by EVS

[BitterApple]

1 hour ago, Absolom said:

Derick needs How the World Works 101.

He also needs a copy of Adulting For Dummies.

[Temperance]

7 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

"The mouth of forbidden women is a deep pit; he with whom the Lord is angry will fall into it." (Proverbs 22:14)

?? When God is pissed he pushes a man toward forbidden women? Isn't that the devil's job?

 

2 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

And God sayeth, "Why should Satan haveth all the fun?'

Thank you @GeeGolly and @Churchhoney good to know I wasn't the only one who read this as God acts as a wingman for men who piss 'em off so they find "forbidden" women.  It also reminds of the trivia that alias Deep Throat (from the Watergate investigation) came from a pornographic film of the same name.  

Edited September 23, 2017 by Temperance

[Sew Sumi]

But Derelict's proverb reminds us that HE is a GODLY man who doesn't fall for God's angry/evil tricks to make men even look at those sluts in teh first place. Barf. 

I've been married a lot longer than Derelict (fuck, it's 25 next year!), and I am confident that while my husband is a normal man and looks, he's never gone further than that. He works at a hospital, so it's not like he's going to hit on women in the elevator. He worked there before I met him, so unlike Jilly Muffin, I was pretty familiar with his worksite and didn't have to drive him to and from work, or meet him for lunch in the cafeteria (parking really sucks around his hospital). Besides, Jilly, I had something called a JOB. Even if I didn't trust the bastard (as it seems she didn't), I had no time to go check up on him to make sure he wasn't sinning. 

I think most of us can relate to this story more than Jill's. Meeting one's spouse for lunch (if you even work in the same city) is great if you have the opportunity. The Dullards, hell, the Duggars, don't understand that this a privilege as their women show up with sandwiches and lemonade at their jobsites...this structure is from a few years ago. With only Jana left to drive out, the menfolk mending fences and mowing lawns (yes, YOU Ben, admitted!) may have to go to Tacos 4 Life to sustain them until dinner. 

Edited September 23, 2017 by Sew Sumi

[Enya Face]

5 hours ago, EarlGreyTea said:

I'd pray for him but he doesn't like us Catholics, so stick a rosary up your ass, Derick. Not that there isn't already a stick up there.

Effing dead! ??I want so badly, now, to be able to tell someone to stick a rosary up their ass. Ohhhh thank you for the laugh! 

[Obsidian]

I wonder if the rosary would enhance his Harley rides.

[floridamom]

In my religious education AND in my life experience, I have been taught AND SHOWN in life that when one is leaning toward  sin, it is Jesus who helps us NOT sin; God puts opportunity to do the right thing in front of us and it is up to us to choose. The Blessed Trinity acts as our cheerleaders for us to do the right thing. God doesn't PUT obstacles in front of us which impedes success; he's rooting FOR us. Derick, you're a bit mixed up.

Sew Sumi: My husband also works in hospitals...and there are a lot of female employees there. That is where I met him...I never felt the need to check up on him. That is something called TRUST; that I think the Duggars lack in their own children so Jilly transferred that doubt by visiting Derick EVERY DAY for lunch.  Ironically, I have brought homemade hot lunches, on occasion, to him in his office, but that was when I wasn't working and it was something special to do for him....I didn't bring him a tuna sandwich EVERY DAY  out in the car. This family overdoes everything.

[Churchhoney]

50 minutes ago, floridamom said:

In my religious education AND in my life experience, I have been taught AND SHOWN in life that when one is leaning toward  sin, it is Jesus who helps us NOT sin; God puts opportunity to do the right thing in front of us and it is up to us to choose. The Blessed Trinity acts as our cheerleaders for us to do the right thing. God doesn't PUT obstacles in front of us which impedes success; he's rooting FOR us. Derick, you're a bit mixed up.

 

He's not mixed up about the Duggar God, though. (or the God of Gothard or many of the other conservative evangelicals and Calvinists that the Duggs and adjacents hang around with).

That God gave people brains so that they'd be tempted to use them and perhaps question something that God said, so God could go "Gotcha! Don't ever trust those brains I gave you! They're just there to tempt you to trust yourself instead of ME! Go to hell, jerkwad!" Ditto for sexual pleasure, the beauty of art and nature, the human desire to hang around with friends, etc.

In their world, those things were created by God and put in front of us by God for the sole purpose of tempting us to enjoy them instead of having our minds set just on God, and God alone, all the bloody time. Their God pretty much does nothing but put enticing-looking obstacles in front of people to tempt them into momentarily choosing something other than God. 

Their God is a jealous God, first and foremost, as the Old Testament says. Jealous of attention that goes to anything else but God. IN fact, I'd call it a jealous and a narcissistic God. 

That's why Duggar birthday greetings and wedding congratulations are just sentence after sentence about how the person in question loves God, loves Jesus, loves God. It's what their God demands. 

And that's why I would say that insecure, narcissistic, greedy people like the Duggars made that God in their own image. And insecure, narcissistic greedy people like the Duggars embrace this God and order everybody else to, too. Because the God's just like them, so they understand it. Jizm Boob and Meeeechelle Duggar couldn't possibly understand a loving and accepting God -- because there's nothing in their personalities like that, so they can't even get their dim prejudiced brains around that concept. 

It's a scary God, too, when you've been told that if you don't talk just about God on your kid's or spouse's birthday, you're likely to burn in hell for all eternity. But I expect insecure, power-hungry people like the Duggar parents really love that about the God, too -- because the scary God can command the kind of loyalty and obeisance that's the subject of their happiest wet dreams. It's a God made up by people just like them, and they happily identify with it. 

[bythelake]

OK, I may be totally off base here but I'm going to put this out there ( says the Catholic). I really think that this quote is a swipe at Josh. Josh  molested Jill among others.  God was angry at the teenage Josh, and led him to find forbidden women as an adult.  I don't think Derick has ever forgiven Josh  and this is an underhanded f/u to him.

[Jynnan tonnix]

5 minutes ago, bythelake said:

OK, I may be totally off base here but I'm going to put this out there ( says the Catholic). I really think that this quote is a swipe at Josh. Josh  molested Jill among others.  God was angry at the teenage Josh, and led him to find forbidden women as an adult.  I don't think Derick has ever forgiven Josh  and this is an underhanded f/u to him.

I suppose it's possible. Makes as much sense as anything else.

[floridamom]

I'm happy believing that God is a 'life preserver" in the 'lake of life' and not a stone around my neck in it.

I'll never understand why Jesus-believing, worshipping people like the Duggars cling to the Old Testament 'angry God' and not to the loving, forgiving God that Jesus described to us....I think you, Churchhoney for your post. I know they see nothing but hell and damnation around them..what a truly despondent life experience for them....they are afraid of everything. God included.

[ginger90]

This

https://mobile.twitter.com/derick4Him/status/911448315358621697?p=v

is  his response to this

Ben Shapiro  @benshapiro

Facts don't care about your feelings. 8:03 AM - 5 Feb 2016

[zoomama]

59 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

This

https://mobile.twitter.com/derick4Him/status/911448315358621697?p=v

is  his response to this

Ben Shapiro  @benshapiro

Facts don't care about your feelings. 8:03 AM - 5 Feb 2016

did he go private? it said i was not authorized to view it.  but what good would going private do? i am not on twitter so i dont really get how it works. 

[Jynnan tonnix]

14 minutes ago, zoomama said:

did he go private? it said i was not authorized to view it.  but what good would going private do? i am not on twitter so i dont really get how it works. 

It did the same thing to me, but when I tried again it worked...maybe just a glitch?

[Churchhoney]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

This

https://mobile.twitter.com/derick4Him/status/911448315358621697?p=v

is  his response to this

Ben Shapiro  @benshapiro

Facts don't care about your feelings. 8:03 AM - 5 Feb 2016

I guess he's just back again with his confused (maybe he thinks it's more subtle?) way of saying that the only thing that matters is the pronouncements (that may not actually exist) of Duggardom's close-minded, bigoted and sending-you-to-hell-right-now God.

Anybody who asserts that those pronouncements aren't valid and maybe aren't what Duggardom says they are is deluded and totally hellbound. So when he tells you to believe him immediately and drop your objections, he's the one who's really got your true feelings at heart. Since wait until you feel that literal hellfire burning you for all eternity. Then you'll know what feelings and facts really are. 

I expect he thinks he's getting brownie points somewhere (with some church people he wants to hire him for another mission or ministry?...because I still think that just about everything that emerges from Der, Bin and Jer is intended to be a career move of some kind -- none of them has given up on the dream of using a Duggar marriage to rise in their religion, I'll bet ...). And Der seems to have taken the approach of being the "brave" one who comes out and says all this stuff directly and to the world at large. And the more people object, the more he probably feels that the objections just prove how very damned the world is, and how much his tweets and his ministry are needed. 

When I hear the Duggs and adjacents blather on, I think of all the old paintings of Hieronymus Bosch's hell and all that other art about that, and the stake burnings in the Spanish Inquisition and such which they seemed to think were just a little taste of the hell to come for the victims, and so on .....

And, you know, back in that past in which myths were still close and visceral things and the world was viscerally scary in a lot of ways, with no science or mass communications providing any distractions or alternative explanations, all this tough talk about God's word trumping everything and what God will do to you if you don't kowtow really did work, it appears. People did convert in droves because they were afraid. And while it looks to us as if Der is asserting stupid stuff, I think that, in fact, few missionaries or theologians back then presented the masses with many better arguments than "God says it. He's all powerful so be afraid and believe it" either, it seems, just like Der et al do today. There were some other arguments in theology, but in preaching, I think they pretty much just threatened that burning hell if you didn't march correctly. 

But today it doesn't work. And this brand of religion doesn't really have any better arguments (especially among the Duggardom crew, who are uneducated and kinda dim). So they just assert this stuff over and over again and wonder why it doesn't work the way it did hundreds of years ago, I think.

Gonna make for a frustrating life. 

Edited September 23, 2017 by Churchhoney

[JayInChicago]

People don't really think 11 year olds have sex reassignment surgery, do they?!?!?

 

no one is performing sex reassignment on an 11 year old, dimwit dullard.

Edited September 23, 2017 by JayInChicago

[Absolom]

Young earth creationism, actual six day creation, flat earth, I guess the people who believe those things could believe it if someone told them reassignment surgery was being done on 11 year olds.

[Churchhoney]

16 minutes ago, JayInChicago said:

People don't really think 11 year olds have sex reassignment surgery, do they?!?!?

 

no one is performing sex reassignment on an 11 year old, dimwit dullard.

Knowing that would require looking outside of Duggar Isolation Island for ... ewww, scary! .... information. ... And you know you can't trust that stuff that those hellbound people say. 

[madpsych78]

4 hours ago, bythelake said:

OK, I may be totally off base here but I'm going to put this out there ( says the Catholic). I really think that this quote is a swipe at Josh. Josh  molested Jill among others.  God was angry at the teenage Josh, and led him to find forbidden women as an adult.  I don't think Derick has ever forgiven Josh  and this is an underhanded f/u to him.

It's possible, but why would he do that now?

5 hours ago, floridamom said:

Sew Sumi: My husband also works in hospitals...and there are a lot of female employees there. That is where I met him...I never felt the need to check up on him. That is something called TRUST; that I think the Duggars lack in their own children so Jilly transferred that doubt by visiting Derick EVERY DAY for lunch.  Ironically, I have brought homemade hot lunches, on occasion, to him in his office, but that was when I wasn't working and it was something special to do for him....I didn't bring him a tuna sandwich EVERY DAY  out in the car. This family overdoes everything.

Was Jill really meeting Derick for lunch because she didn't trust him? I thought it was more because she didn't like being alone (given that most of this behavior was pre-Israel).

[cmr2014]

1 hour ago, madpsych78 said:

Was Jill really meeting Derick for lunch because she didn't trust him? I thought it was more because she didn't like being alone (given that most of this behavior was pre-Israel).

I think is was a multi-purpose smothering:

1. To show how very much in love they were. "Ha ha haters,  we may barely know each other, but we are soooo in love that we can barely stand to be apart!"

2. Because she was bored. I think that there are people who, had they been in Jill's situation, would have been thrilled at the opportunity to spend some time alone. Jill wasn't like that.

3. Because WalMart was full of evil sinners trying to tempt Derick down the wrong path. There were women WORKING there! There were women in PANTS! Some of his male colleagues might have invited him to go for a BEER after work!!!

Mostly, though, I think it was the LOVE. Most of Gothard's gender norms are about this over-the-top play acting about how deeply a woman loves and admires her headship (e.g. googly-eyed staring, endless SM posts about a "wonderful, godly husband!").

Edited September 23, 2017 by cmr2014
typos

[Temperance]

7 hours ago, bythelake said:

OK, I may be totally off base here but I'm going to put this out there ( says the Catholic). I really think that this quote is a swipe at Josh. Josh  molested Jill among others.  God was angry at the teenage Josh, and led him to find forbidden women as an adult.  I don't think Derick has ever forgiven Josh  and this is an underhanded f/u to him.

Maybe he's jealous J & A got that US Weekly story about their last baby and the Dills didn't get any story about their last baby. 

[bythelake]

3 hours ago, madpsych78 said:

It's possible, but why would he do that now?

Was Jill really meeting Derick for lunch because she didn't trust him? I thought it was more because she didn't like being alone (given that most of this behavior was pre-Israel).

Who knows why he would do that now? Maybe, he's been harboring hard feelings for a long time. Maybe, Jill is falling apart due to her brother's betrayal and Derick is dealing with that. We saw the Kelly interview where she was inconsolable. That kind of pain doesn't go away by itself and I would guess that none of the girls got any professional help. Maybe, it's none of the above and I'm totally off base.

I thought Jill met Derick for lunch because she was so clingy and not used to being alone after being raised in the clown car.

[cdp73]

24 minutes ago, bythelake said:

I thought Jill met Derick for lunch because she was so clingy and not used to being alone after being raised in the clown car.

Jill could have gone to the TTH for lunch with her family but instead hung out with Derick and used the corporate gym.  I think her constant presence at his workplace is a main reason he left Walmart.  I don't think he did so voluntarily.

[tabloidlover]

4 hours ago, cmr2014 said:

I think is was a multi-purpose smothering:

1. To show how very much in love they were. "Ha ha haters,  we may barely know each other, but we are soooo in love that we can barely stand to be apart!"

2. Because she was bored. I think that there are people who, had they been in Jill's situation, would have been thrilled at the opportunity to spend some time alone. Jill wasn't like that.

3. Because WalMart was full of evil sinners trying to tempt Derick down the wrong path. There were women WORKING there! There were women in PANTS! Some of his male colleagues might have invited him to go for a BEER after work!!!

Mostly, though, I think it was the LOVE. Most of Gothard's gender norms are about this over-the-top play acting about how deeply a woman loves and admires her headship (e.g. googly-eyed staring, endless SM posts about a "wonderful, godly husband!").

As much as I agree with all of these points my eyes rolled all the way back in my head.  The entire situation is so absurd. 

[BckpckFullaNinjas]

2 hours ago, cdp73 said:

Jill could have gone to the TTH for lunch with her family but instead hung out with Derick and used the corporate gym.  I think her constant presence at his workplace is a main reason he left Walmart.  I don't think he did so voluntarily.

You think? I was in corporate a long time and haven't heard of a firing for too many spousal luncheons. ;-) OTOH, AR is a right-to-work state and even if it weren't, "employment at will" is the norm for most professional employees. Intriguing!  I'll ask a friend who worked in HR what he thinks! 

[cmr2014]

44 minutes ago, BckpckFullaNinjas said:

You think? I was in corporate a long time and haven't heard of a firing for too many spousal luncheons. ;-) OTOH, AR is a right-to-work state and even if it weren't, "employment at will" is the norm for most professional employees. Intriguing!  I'll ask a friend who worked in HR what he thinks! 

I don't think it was just the lunches -- but I don't think they helped, either.

* Derick's mother was a VP at WalMart, so I think he got a job -- that a lot of other young people would have been thrilled to get -- without much effort on his part

* He took TONS of time off: the wedding and honeymoon, his mother's illness, and the birth of his son probably required more time off than a first year employee would receive, but I would imagine that he was cut a lot of slack on that.

* What I don't think they liked was all the time off for trips to NYC, and for filming.

* I doubt that it was a big deal that Jill showed up there EVERY DAY for lunch, but that also didn't do much to make him popular -- I doubt he developed any kind of friendships with co-workers.

* I also wouldn't be surprised if there were meetings or projects that another first year accountant would have stayed late or missed lunch to finish, that Derick bailed on for lunch or a ride home with his wife.

I don't know that any of that was fireable, and I don't know that he was fired, but if he worked for me, I'd have been glad to see him go.

[BckpckFullaNinjas]

1 hour ago, cmr2014 said:

if he worked for me, I'd have been glad to see him go.

Points well taken!

I hadn't known his mom is a WM exec. How in all that is holy AND unholy does he square her achievement with endorsing the constricted life his wife and sisters-in-law continue to live? 

[kokapetl]

1 hour ago, cmr2014 said:

I don't think it was just the lunches -- but I don't think they helped, either.

* Derick's mother was a VP at WalMart, so I think he got a job -- that a lot of other young people would have been thrilled to get -- without much effort on his part

* He took TONS of time off: the wedding and honeymoon, his mother's illness, and the birth of his son probably required more time off than a first year employee would receive, but I would imagine that he was cut a lot of slack on that.

* What I don't think they liked was all the time off for trips to NYC, and for filming.

* I doubt that it was a big deal that Jill showed up there EVERY DAY for lunch, but that also didn't do much to make him popular -- I doubt he developed any kind of friendships with co-workers.

* I also wouldn't be surprised if there were meetings or projects that another first year accountant would have stayed late or missed lunch to finish, that Derick bailed on for lunch or a ride home with his wife.

I don't know that any of that was fireable, and I don't know that he was fired, but if he worked for me, I'd have been glad to see him go.

Yeah, work friends are normally the people who you sit next to for the seven hours and thirty minutes each day, not at lunch. I think Derick probably gave off a weird vibe. 

[ariel]

2 hours ago, BckpckFullaNinjas said:

You think? I was in corporate a long time and haven't heard of a firing for too many spousal luncheons. ;-) OTOH, AR is a right-to-work state and even if it weren't, "employment at will" is the norm for most professional employees. Intriguing!  I'll ask a friend who worked in HR what he thinks! 

 "Right To Work" is a PC term that many states are now using because they hate the idea of the middle class & hate Unions that gave the middle class fair pay for their labors &  the weekends off.

[RedheadZombie]

On ‎9‎/‎22‎/‎2017 at 4:01 PM, bythelake said:

What does that quote even mean? Women is plural so he's talking about more than one woman. Is it a reference to Josh and his escapades? The responses are hilarious. Derick is falling deeper down the rabbit hole.

I think he fears blow jobs.

[Genevrier]

20 hours ago, Obsidian said:

I wonder if the rosary would enhance his Harley rides.

Prayer closet! Right now. ?

[kokapetl]

20 minutes ago, RedheadZombie said:

I think he fears blow jobs.

And, like, falling penis first into a woman’s bottomless mouth or something. Or there’s a portal to hell at the deepest part of the throat. 

[Obsidian]

55 minutes ago, Genevrier said:

Prayer closet! Right now. ?

Not sure I can walk in a straight line after all the brain bleach I used, but I will try.

[GeeGolly]

Remember the game Telephone Line? Someone needs to line the Duggars up and have Derick tell the first person a simple phrase and then have the last person repeat it back to him. Then remind him no one was doing this 'fact checking' when the Bible was being written.

Because really Derick how true are these truths you believe?

[Churchhoney]

9 hours ago, BckpckFullaNinjas said:

Points well taken!

I hadn't known his mom is a WM exec. How in all that is holy AND unholy does he square her achievement with endorsing the constricted life his wife and sisters-in-law continue to live? 

Same way Jeremy does, is my bet. They both saw/see (see/saw?) a Duggar marriage as their ticket to a good ministry/missionary gig. And they may be romantically attracted to that "good old-fashioned Christian way" of womanly meekness and following the man's lead that they've seen dumped by the contemporary world and, at least in Derick's case, to some extent by his own mother. Nostalgia by somewhat insecure guys for an idealized past in which men were the undisputed "leaders of the home" plus the hope that Duggar fame would win them some sort of positions as Christian leaders as well would be a pretty strong attraction, I would think. Who cares about women's education? pish tush. No skin off Der's or Jer's nose. After all, "biblical gender roles" don't require it (even if, by some lights, they may allow it)

Edited September 24, 2017 by Churchhoney

[GeeGolly]

3 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

Same way Jeremy does, is my bet. They both saw/see (see/saw?) a Duggar marriage as their ticket to a good ministry/missionary gig. And they may be romantically attracted to that "good old-fashioned Christian way" of womanly meekness and following the man's lead that they've seen dumped by the contemporary world and, at least in Derick's case, to some extent by his own mother. Nostalgia by somewhat insecure guys for an idealized past in which men were the undisputed "leaders of the home" plus the hope that Duggar fame would win them some sort of positions as Christian leaders as well would be a pretty strong attraction, I would think. Who cares about women's education? pish tush. No skin off Der's or Jer's nose. After all, "biblical gender roles" don't require it (even if, by some lights, they may allow it)

Yet they're all married to 'working' women whose net worth is larger than their own. Somehow Der, Jer & Ben have managed to have it both ways.

[Churchhoney]

4 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Yet they're all married to 'working' women whose net worth is larger than their own. Somehow Der, Jer & Ben have managed to have it both ways.

They have indeed. But, as we know, irony is completely lost on all these people. So they'll likely never notice. ..... And that's a place where their wives' lack of education will come in handy for the guys, I expect. Since, given their extreme ignorance, they're almost certain never to notice.  ... Well, Jessa might. lol

Edited September 24, 2017 by Churchhoney

[ginger90]

He just keeps on going

https://mobile.twitter.com/derick4Him/status/911986551155912705?p=v

[Christina87]

23 hours ago, cmr2014 said:

I think is was a multi-purpose smothering:

1. To show how very much in love they were. "Ha ha haters,  we may barely know each other, but we are soooo in love that we can barely stand to be apart!"

2. Because she was bored. I think that there are people who, had they been in Jill's situation, would have been thrilled at the opportunity to spend some time alone. Jill wasn't like that.

3. Because WalMart was full of evil sinners trying to tempt Derick down the wrong path. There were women WORKING there! There were women in PANTS! Some of his male colleagues might have invited him to go for a BEER after work!!!

Mostly, though, I think it was the LOVE. Most of Gothard's gender norms are about this over-the-top play acting about how deeply a woman loves and admires her headship (e.g. googly-eyed staring, endless SM posts about a "wonderful, godly husband!").

I think #2 is the main reason. Jilly wasn't used to being alone, ever. I remember I just about threw something at the tv when she said she commuted an hour or something like that to pick him up every day. 

Maybe i'm waaaaay off base about this...but isn't a HUGE advantage to having a stay-at-home partner the fact that they DON'T have to deal with working long hours and commuting, and can focus that time on getting dinner ready instead? I can't tell you how many times I walk in the door starving, wishing I could get started on dinner earlier. It sucks to work all day and then spend 30 minutes preparing something, while waiting an hour for it to cook. There aren't that many evening hours anyway, and now you've wasted a couple! Instead of wasting, say, 4-6 picking Derrick up, she could make and cook an entire healthy dinner at that time, and Derrick could walk in the house and eat right away. It must suck to have to wait that late to get started on dinner when one of you could literally stay home and make it! That has always made zero sense to me. 

Edited September 24, 2017 by Christina87

[cmr2014]

42 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

He just keeps on going

https://mobile.twitter.com/derick4Him/status/911986551155912705?p=v

It's ok to agree w/ people on some things & disagree w/ them on others. Don't blindly follow/oppose something/someone. It's dangerous! Think

I don't think there's anything especially wrong with this tweet. In fact, only in Duggar-world would this incredibly banal though be worth posting.

In fact, I can see this post being directed at Jill, or some other Duggar, who is upset with him for not toeing the party line.

Edited September 24, 2017 by cmr2014
typo

[lascuba]

I vaguely recall someone on FJ once claiming to know someone who worked at Walmart when Derick was there, and they said that employees were given a firm lecture about never talking about Derick to the press, and that management in general were protective of him. Does that sound familiar to anyone else?

I'm not sure I buy that Derick was let go from Walmart. It's certainly possible, but I think he was thirsty enough for missionary work that he willingly quit for the SOS gig. Jill showing up everyday was something that his fellow employees--and quite possibly management--likely mocked behind his back, but I don't think that it went beyond that as far as Walmart wanting him gone because of it (I've always worked in science and healthcare so my experience in corporate settings is nonexistent). 

As for why Jill drove there multiple times a day--to drive him to work, to have lunch with him, to use the gym, to pick him up--I think it was partly just because she finally could. Remember, she wasn't allowed any alone time with him before marrying him. She also idealizes her parents' marriage and honestly thinks/thought they needed to spend most of their time together. Having a husband gone for several hours a day wasn't something she was prepared for.