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Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

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Zella

Zella

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

I don’t mean to harp on this, but we don’t know the school situation. I recall Duggars posting pictures on the day of a wedding that were to suggest the wedding wasn’t that day, but it was, and the pictures weren’t actually taken that day. Just an example.

I agree the picture timing doesn't necessary say anything. But Jill refusing to answer questions about it says everything, IMO. 

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17 minutes ago, Zella said:

I agree the picture timing doesn't necessary say anything. But Jill refusing to answer questions about it says everything, IMO. 

If Izzy was in school he would have completed a semester. Jill posted about school, projects, and reading awards (including a picture of Izzy eating the personal pizza he got as a reward). No way would Jill miss sharing those moments. Like @Zellanoted the question dodging makes it more than likely that Izzy and Sam are homeschooled. 

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YupItsMe

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Maybe she’s gotten a bit more savvy and knows that if she says they are in school, fanatical people will figure out what school. Of course, if they aren’t in school, I’m sure some people have already figured out where the house is so the boys aren’t really any safer there than they would be at school - probably less so.

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sagittarius sue

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14 minutes ago, Absolom said:

Instead of just dumping the dog outside with snow covered ground, how about taking her on a walk on cleared sidewalks?  Or engage her in something so she forgets about the snow or gets used to walking on it?

She probably wanted to play so it would've been far better if she and/or the kids went outside to play with her.

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GeeGolly

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Jill seems to only see Fenna from a nuisance perspective and never from a dog perspective.

What makes Jill thing Fenna needs to "get some energy out"? Barking in the garage and scratching at the door?

In the slides following the picture of Fenna, Jill and Derick are outside, hanging by the fire, drinking coffee and Fenna is nowhere in sight.

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SMama

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11 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Jill seems to only see Fenna from a nuisance perspective and never from a dog perspective.

What makes Jill thing Fenna needs to "get some energy out"? Barking in the garage and scratching at the door?

In the slides following the picture of Fenna, Jill and Derick are outside, hanging by the fire, drinking coffee and Fenna is nowhere in sight.

Fenna and the kids are a nuisance to Jill and Derick. The boys were inside and she was communicating with them via walkie-talkie. They could have dressed them for the weather and let them enjoy that first snow.

I think it was Israel who was hungry, Jill told him to finish his breakfast, he had, she told him to get cheese cubes. Children need to be self sufficient but Jill strikes me as just not that invested, puts very little parenting effort. Definitely JB’s and Michelle’s daughter. 

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Gemma Violet

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I don't fret about it.  Fenna probably gets lots of playtime with the kids.  It's nice that she's mostly inside during the cold weather (and she looks healthy and well fed).  To me, it shows that the Dillards are doing a good job with her.  She could be chained up in the backyard through all kinds of weather like some horror stories I've heard.

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CalicoKitty

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I wish someone would make snowmen in all the snow on my lawn.  I still have at least a foot on the ground, with a 5 foot pile from the snow plow next to my driveway.  More snow this weekend....

It looks like the boys had fun making their snowman.  I used to love playing in the snow when I was at my aunt's house.

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auntieminem

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5 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Jill seems to only see Fenna from a nuisance perspective and never from a dog perspective.

What makes Jill thing Fenna needs to "get some energy out"? Barking in the garage and scratching at the door?

In the slides following the picture of Fenna, Jill and Derick are outside, hanging by the fire, drinking coffee and Fenna is nowhere in sight.

You can see Fenna  in the yard in the picture of them by the fire. That picture and caption is like many of my friends posted of their dogs as funny, either the dogs were so happy to get out in the snow or they were giving the no thanks look.  I think the they are fond of Fenna and though they probably make many mistakes she seems to be doing well. She was and hopefully still is Derick's running buddy. When they first got her I was afraid they would end up not keeping her because Duggars don't have a great pet record. Though maybe I should not paint them all the same, seems like Jana has had the same dog for a some time.  

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BetyBee

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10 hours ago, SMama said:

I really like the snowman. That’s not a snowman for the Gram, it’s about two kids excited about the first snow of the season and its scarceness did not put a damp on their enthusiasm. Good for Derick for joining the fun. 

I agree. It seems like SM has replaced family albums where pics like this belong. I'm referring more to the pic I saw of Derick making a snow angel and wearing only shorts and flip flops. I don't need to see that much of Derick!

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Lisa418722

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I like the snowman too.  I grew up in middle Tennessee and never had a pretty snow white snowman when I was growing up.  Mine were about half the size of the Dillard's and always had dirt and twigs attached.

 

Fenna's expression reminds me of one of my dogs.."Nope I'm not getting out into that snow.   It's cold and it's wet."  Hopefully the kids will get her out into the yard and wanting to play.  

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lookeyloo

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5 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Sammy didn't have a coat on, but Izzy did. I wondered about Derick's flip-flops too.

I would guess people have different tolerances of cold.  When we visit Older Son and family in the PNW we can tell the "locals" on the plane.  We are bundled up and they are wearing tank tops and flip flops!  I swear the family doesn't get cold while we are freezing.  Maybe Derick and Sam share the same body types.

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Gemma Violet

Gemma Violet

37 minutes ago, Zella said:

but it wasn't that cold. It stayed in the 20s.

What?  That's brrrrr cold to me.  Living in the south for all my life (going on seven decades), I've rarely seen it even get down that far.  To me, a temp in the 60s is sweater weather. 😁

The snowman's cute, even with the twigs, etc. in it.  

Yeah, I noticed Derick's sandals.  It must have been warmer that day than it looked.

Zella

Zella

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20 minutes ago, Gemma Violet said:

What?  That's brrrrr cold to me.  Living in the south for all my life (going on seven decades), I've rarely seen it even get down that far.  To me, a temp in the 60s is sweater weather. 😁

The snowman's cute, even with the twigs, etc. in it.  

Yeah, I noticed Derick's sandals.  It must have been warmer that day than it looked.

I know what temps everyone is used to varies by location, but here in NWA, 20s are a pretty standard temperature for winter, and compared to the -20 windchill we had about a month ago, it's really not that bad. He got the same snowstorm and temps I did. 

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GeeGolly

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In the 20s, yikes! We have what I consider long winters, most days are somewhere in the 30s, with 20s overnight and/or daytime 20s sprinkled throughout the months. Even skiing in the 20s no one wears short sleeves and no ones walks around in flip flops unless its in the 40s, with dry ground (yup they do).

Sunny 20s, with no wind is certainly tolerable - with a coat and shoes. Sammy and Derick were definitely cold.

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Salacious Kitty

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5 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

In the 20s, yikes! We have what I consider long winters, most days are somewhere in the 30s, with 20s overnight and/or daytime 20s sprinkled throughout the months. Even skiing in the 20s no one wears short sleeves and no ones walks around in flip flops unless its in the 40s, with dry ground (yup they do).

Sunny 20s, with no wind is certainly tolerable - with a coat and shoes. Sammy and Derick were definitely cold.

And DWreck FUed Jill's followers who were complaining about his flip flops by coming out later in those awful short shorts doing snow angels. 

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CalicoKitty

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1 hour ago, lookeyloo said:

I would guess people have different tolerances of cold.  When we visit Older Son and family in the PNW we can tell the "locals" on the plane.  We are bundled up and they are wearing tank tops and flip flops!  I swear the family doesn't get cold while we are freezing.  Maybe Derick and Sam share the same body types.

If it should happen to rain a few drops in California during the summer, you see people wearing their winter coats--complete with hoods--and  carrying umbrellas.  It can be 90 degrees, but rain, no matter how little, means winter, so it must be cold.  I agree that different people have different temperature tolerances.  That being said, I still would't play in the snow in flip flops.  I just hope the kids have a choice of shoes and clothing available, and they are not expected to go out in the snow underdressed,

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sagittarius sue

sagittarius sue

7 hours ago, libgirl2 said:

Some people are like that. I remember wearing a windbreaker all winter when I was much younger. And I live in the midwest where it gets COLD! 

Along with those guys who insist on wearing shorts whenever possible.  A neighbor always wears shorts (and sandals) unless he's going outside in the winter.

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lookeyloo

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5 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

If it should happen to rain a few drops in California during the summer, you see people wearing their winter coats--complete with hoods--and  carrying umbrellas.  It can be 90 degrees, but rain, no matter how little, means winter, so it must be cold.  I agree that different people have different temperature tolerances.  That being said, I still would't play in the snow in flip flops.  I just hope the kids have a choice of shoes and clothing available, and they are not expected to go out in the snow underdressed,

I would not be that surprised if it was a Rodrigues child but I honestly don't think Jill or Derick would say "Israel you have and can wear a coat but Sam we don't have one for you and besides we wouldn't let you anyway because you are punished".  He probably didn't want to wear one at least yet and they didn't make an issue of it. 

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Zella

Zella

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41 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

In the 20s, yikes! We have what I consider long winters, most days are somewhere in the 30s, with 20s overnight and/or daytime 20s sprinkled throughout the months. Even skiing in the 20s no one wears short sleeves and no ones walks around in flip flops unless its in the 40s, with dry ground (yup they do).

Sunny 20s, with no wind is certainly tolerable - with a coat and shoes. Sammy and Derick were definitely cold.

I don't believe for a minute Derick was out there for longer than the photo op. 

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Zella

Zella

Just now, Suzn said:

I could understand just the temperature for a brief time, but walking through the snow would be miserable to me.  There's no way there would not have been contact between bare skin and snow. 

Oh I wouldn't either. I am not saying it's bright to go out in snow in flip flops. I'm just saying that I don't find it unfathomable that some idiot like Derick trounced out there to have his picture taken, and all things considered, doing it in this snow storm rather than the one we had a month ago where the temps were will below 0 would make more sense. Or as much sense as it's going to make. 

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crazy8s

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I do picture derick boasting he could do a snow angel in shorts and no shirt and the boys sorting of daring him or cheering him on to do it.

We have a neighbor about Derrick's age. He always shovels snow in shorts, a hoodie and wearing sneakers or sandals. No hat or gloves.

The first time i met him was when we had gotten about 7" of snow and I walked over to meet him and offer use of our ancient snowblower. He was like thanks, but I'm content shoveling.

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Zella

Zella

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10 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

I do picture derick boasting he could do a snow angel in shorts and no shirt

Based on what we know about Derick's personality, I can totally buy him running out there to have his picture taken for the sole purpose of posting it on social media and provoking a reaction from people. I am sure he thought this was an incredible flash of genius and quite inspired trolling. What I'm saying is he needs real hobbies. 

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Dehumidifier

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16 hours ago, lookeyloo said:

I would not be that surprised if it was a Rodrigues child but I honestly don't think Jill or Derick would say "Israel you have and can wear a coat but Sam we don't have one for you and besides we wouldn't let you anyway because you are punished".  He probably didn't want to wear one at least yet and they didn't make an issue of it. 

If you're in a very warm building the first few minutes in the cold can feel great. Then you start to feel it and put a coat on or zip up the one you're wearing.

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Scarlett45

Scarlett45

I am a cold blooded person who lives in a place where it's cold most of the year. Sometimes I see people outside this time of year and think they are living on a different planet than me because I would be miserable without CLOTHES ON. I understand as an adult that other adults know whether they are hot or cold, but no way would I allow a CHILD Sam or Izzy's age outside without a proper coat, hat, gloves and BOOTS (with warm socks) if there was snow on the ground. IF they were teens or pre-teens, I would let them decide, and if they suffered they would learn to dress appropriately. (I hear my Mom's voice coming out now!) But they are still too little. 

Also, in my cultural group, being outside not properly dressed for winter, it's assumed you are living in poverty and just don't HAVE warm things, especially if you are a child. I know this isn't the case for the Dillard boys, I do believe Jill and Derrick would buy them proper winter gear (or any other type of clothing) they needed. 

On the flip side, Im never hot. It's 85 degrees and humid and my skin and hair is like "YAAAASSS QUEEN", humans are different. I know if I am hot everyone else is DYING. 

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lookeyloo

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15 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:

I am a cold blooded person who lives in a place where it's cold most of the year. Sometimes I see people outside this time of year and think they are living on a different planet than me because I would be miserable without CLOTHES ON. I understand as an adult that other adults know whether they are hot or cold, but no way would I allow a CHILD Sam or Izzy's age outside without a proper coat, hat, gloves and BOOTS (with warm socks) if there was snow on the ground. IF they were teens or pre-teens, I would let them decide, and if they suffered they would learn to dress appropriately. (I hear my Mom's voice coming out now!) But they are still too little. 

Also, in my cultural group, being outside not properly dressed for winter, it's assumed you are living in poverty and just don't HAVE warm things, especially if you are a child. I know this isn't the case for the Dillard boys, I do believe Jill and Derrick would buy them proper winter gear (or any other type of clothing) they needed. 

On the flip side, Im never hot. It's 85 degrees and humid and my skin and hair is like "YAAAASSS QUEEN", humans are different. I know if I am hot everyone else is DYING. 

We are all different. Sweet son's older brother didn't want to wear his coat, hat or gloves at recess in kindergarten in winter in Northern California winter. Sweet Son and I stayed bundled up. The  teachers insisted I allow them to "force" him to wear these items or take him to the doctor. Which I did. Blood work drawn. All normal. Doctor said let him be. He will know when he is cold. I couldn't in good conscience force him because he was miserable or because it didn't look right to others. He is grown up and lives in the PNW and still rarely wears a coat in winter. Sometimes it is not bad or neglectful parenting and some issues are not worth fighting. Maybe Sam and Derick aren't cold enough or will get a coat later. 
 

edited to add that oldest grandson (who is in first year law school) told his parents in high school not to get him a winter jacket because he didn't need it and wouldn't wear it. In the PNW

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Scarlett45

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7 minutes ago, lookeyloo said:

We are all different. Sweet son's older brother didn't want to wear his coat, hat or gloves at recess in kindergarten in winter in Northern California winter. Sweet Son and I stayed bundled up. The  teachers insisted I allow them to "force" him to wear these items or take him to the doctor. Which I did. Blood work drawn. All normal. Doctor said let him be. He will know when he is cold. I couldn't in good conscience force him because he was miserable or because it didn't look right to others. He is grown up and lives in the PNW and still rarely wears a coat in winter. Sometimes it is not bad or neglectful parenting and some issues are not worth fighting. Maybe Sam and Derick aren't cold enough or will get a coat later. 
 

edited to add that oldest grandson (who is in first year law school) told his parents in high school not to get him a winter jacket because he didn't need it and wouldn't wear it. In the PNW

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