Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[zoomama]

was anyone but me bothered by the fact that derrick did not even TRY to cover his mouth when he sneezed in the hammock?

[bigskygirl]

16 minutes ago, zoomama said:

was anyone but me bothered by the fact that derrick did not even TRY to cover his mouth when he sneezed in the hammock?

Thank you. I am glad I was not the only one who noticed.

[Temperance]

Derick and Jill have had so many "scandals" it's hard to keep track. I think one of the main things they did before they were kicked off TLC was all that asking for the donations.  People were mad celebrities asked for money to be missionaires and weren't sure where their money was going. Jill and Derick kept coming back to the States for one reason or another. It was hard to explain how that money went to central America. 

I think this all boils down to money. Derick expected them and/or his in-laws to either pay all the medical bills and help pay what insurance couldn't. He also expected to be making a lot as a tv star. Heck, he reached out to JB partly in the hopes of getting his career as missionary funded. I wonder if JB gave him anything before he arranged a marriage with Jill.  If (and it's a big if) JB gave him money, it probably wasn't that much. That should have been your first clue, Derick.

I think Derick sees that Jazz and her family and Nate and his family have a lot more money than he and his family and it angers him. He thinks they get it all from TLC and TLC pays them better than they did him. I know Nate and Jer have their own business and the Jennings probably have money from other sources.  And then there's the fact the families are a lot smaller than the sprawling Duggar family so that increases the TLC money.

Derick and Jill seem to have had money medical bills and need for money than the other kids. I wonder if that's why he's complaining the most. If one of the couples suddenly needed money (hopefully for nothing bad), maybe we would hear some of the other kidadults complaining. 

I can't see Jill and Derick getting a new show on Uptv. They're too controversial among reasons.  Between Derick's rants and Jill's midwifery (which could potentially cause a law suit; unlikely but possible) why bother? There are plenty of cute kids in the world whose parents have it more together.  

Edited April 30, 2018 by Temperance

[Ohiopirate02]

4 minutes ago, Temperance said:

Derick and Jill have had so many "scandals" it's hard to keep track. I think one of the main things they did before they were kicked off TLC was all that asking for the donations.  People were mad celebrities asked for money to be missionaires and weren't sure where their money was going. Jill and Derick kept coming back to the States for one reason or another. It was hard to explain how that money went to central America. 

I think this all boils down to money. Derick expected them and/or his in-laws to either pay all the medical bills and help pay what insurance couldn't. He also expected to be making a lot as a tv star. Heck, he reached out to JB partly in the hopes of getting his career as missionary funded. I wonder if JB gave him anything before he arranged a marriage with Jill.  If (and it's a big if) JB gave him money, it probably wasn't that much. That should have been your first clue, Derick.

I think Derick sees that Jazz and her family and Nate and his family have a lot more money than he and his family and it angers him. He thinks they get it all from TLC and TLC pays them better than they did him. I know Nate and Jer have their own business and the Jennings probably have money from other sources.  And then there's the fact the families are a lot smaller than the sprawling Duggar family so that increases the TLC money.

Derick and Jill seem to have had money medical bills and need for money than the other kids. I wonder if that's why he's complaining the most. If one of the couples suddenly needed money (hopefully for nothing bad), maybe we would hear some of the other kidadults complaining. 

I can't see Jill and Derick getting a new show on Uptv. They're too controversial among reasons.  Between Derick's rants and Jill's midwifery (which could potentially cause a law suit; unlikely but possible) why bother? There are plenty of cute kids in the world whose parents have it more together.  

I'm sure TLC had both Jill and Derrick sign a non compete clause at some point.  They probably can't have a show on another network for so many years.  Especially when Counting On is still airing. 

[bigskygirl]

Stupid mistake number one was Derick leaving a half way decent paying job at Wally World in order to go to Danger America to save heathens without money or a way to support himself, his wife, and new born baby. Stupid mistake number two he made was hoping JB and TLC were going to pay his way after he married Jill. He obviously did not think it out well at all. Stupid mistake number three was not getting a clear picture of what married life was going to be with Jill. He thought he hit the big time by marrying a Duggar daughter to further his missionary work. He probably did not factor in the fact she wanted to get married fast and start popping the kids out right and left. Throw in the fact he was secretly hoping JB and TLC would pay him and Jill when they had children without realizing the fact something could go seriously wrong during her pregnancy and delivery leading to huge medical bills. So now we head into stupid mistake number four because he thought Jill was an expert midwife who could take care of herself and the future children they may have. And now we head into stupid mistake number five or should I say the big one. He is now going after JB and TLC big time because they did not pay up according to him. He wants his cake and eat it too. His version of running off at the mouth without thinking clearly is costing him big time. He is being called out for his crap and throwing a major hissy fit because of it.

Edited April 30, 2018 by bigskygirl
mouth not month *lol*

[GeeGolly]

3 hours ago, laurakaye said:

I am 99% sure that Dill was in the photo.  I recall looking closely at Jill because she looked so different, but I think he was standing over her and gazing at Sam.

 

2 hours ago, Lunera said:

Was it this one? It says property of Dillard Family but they gave TLC permission to use it. The People announcement of Sam's birth also has pictures with the Dillard Family watermark but underneath the picture it says "Courtesy TLC".

http://people.com/tv/jill-derick-dillard-new-photos-baby-samuel/

One of you unblocked Tweeters need to post this pic with - May 31st?

Nice catch Laurakaye and Lunera!

[DragonFaerie]

4 hours ago, Lunera said:

I did a quick scan of the comments and I had to laugh - many folks have "applauded" him for having a rainbow hammock to show his support of the  LGBQT community.  I know they're just digging at him, but you know he has to be in horror now realising that some folks might think that - LOLOLOLOL

Edited April 30, 2018 by DragonFaerie

[Readalot]

I’m just happy the kids get to watch Peppa Pig! 

[EVS]

2 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

One thing that has been bothering about Derick's Twitter rampage, is his response about what if Izzy or Sam was gay.  He claims that he would love the child, but I don't buy that.  He would force the child to undergo conversion therapy (or whatever name it will be rebranded 10+ years from now).  If the child refuses, Derick will cut off all contact.  I watch enough of RuPaul's Drag Race to know what will happen. 

He might still love his child if he were gay, but someone should ask him if he would accept the child.  I agree with you that there is no way that he would, but I would love to see Derick’s evasive response to that question. 

[toodles]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

Oh those wacky Dillards.  Drinking coffee, kids taking pictures and cooking.  Hey, look at us!!  We are just like you!

Dilllards can show all the pretty pictures they want.  Putting lipstick on a proverbial pig does not change the fact that it's a pig.  No offense to pigs.  Silly Jilly is no better than her hypocrite husband.

the Dillards are hateful people and trying to pretend otherwise is no different than your friendly neighborhood criminal.  Normal on the outside but rotten on the inside.  I guess the difference is that the Dillards aren't doing anything illegal.  It's just garden variety shitty with a heapin' helpin'  of assholery.

[xwordfanatik]

10 minutes ago, toodles said:

Oh those wacky Dillards.  Drinking coffee, kids taking pictures and cooking.  Hey, look at us!!  We are just like you!

Dilllards can show all the pretty pictures they want.  Putting lipstick on a proverbial pig does not change the fact that it's a pig.  No offense to pigs.  Silly Jilly is no better than her hypocrite husband.

the Dillards are hateful people and trying to pretend otherwise is no different than your friendly neighborhood criminal.  Normal on the outside but rotten on the inside.  I guess the difference is that the Dillards aren't doing anything illegal.  It's just garden variety shitty with a heapin' helpin'  of assholery.

Dear @toodles, I sent an ILY to @Celia Rubenstein, and now I must send one to you! <3

Heapin' helpin', love it!  I can just see Granny and Jed.

The Dillweeds are FUBAR.  If I were a TV exec, no way would I give them air time.  

[Totally]

9 minutes ago, toodles said:

Oh those wacky Dillards.  Drinking coffee, kids taking pictures and cooking.  Hey, look at us!!  We are just like you!

Dilllards can show all the pretty pictures they want.  Putting lipstick on a proverbial pig does not change the fact that it's a pig.  No offense to pigs.  Silly Jilly is no better than her hypocrite husband.

the Dillards are hateful people and trying to pretend otherwise is no different than your friendly neighborhood criminal.  Normal on the outside but rotten on the inside.  I guess the difference is that the Dillards aren't doing anything illegal.  It's just garden variety shitty with a heapin' helpin'  of assholery.

The whole family believe the same, the rest of the family have just stopped ‘advertising’ their beliefs 

I really cant believe I’m going to say this, but I’d actually prefer to speak with Der than Jer,Ben etc because I know what Der believes, whereas as the others put on a accepting front when they’re all just as small minded as each other

Disclaimer ... I don’t want to speak to any of them!

[Mollie]

Derick has removed his tweet about suing People Magazine for libel for saying he was fired by TLC.  I find it very telling that Derick's mom Cathy hasn't jumped in to verify Derick's statements about TLC and wife Jill has maintained total silence about leaving Counting On.  No Duggar family member has made a statement either.  Is it any wonder that people are skeptical of Derick's version of events?

Edited April 30, 2018 by Mollie

[Sew Sumi]

Cathy has jumped in with the "You don't know all the facts" BS on previous tweets.

[Mollie]

7 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

Cathy has jumped in with the "You don't know all the facts" BS on previous tweets.

On tweets about TLC?  Could you post a screen shot or copy and paste what was tweeted?

[Catfin]

Our local morning radio drive guy went after Derrick this morning. He took offense at the remarks about Nate Berk  and family and pretty much called out that Derrick needed to look at his own house/family and get a job. I think this is going to bubble up pretty big. 

Ferrick has poked the bear too much. 

[GeeGolly]

I watched the hammock clip again. If you watch Sammy closely, Derick either lacks instinct or doesn't give a damn. Sammy is trying to get comfortable, mostly wanting to sit up. Most parents naturally, without thinking, adjust their kids as they squirm into a preferred position - Derick doesn't. And either Sammy is a very laid back baby or he already knows not to fuss and let his wants be known. I'm hoping he's laid back.

Oh and thanks Jill, for letting us know that your hammock, which is 6" off the ground, is secure. Not like an infant in a car seat balanced on a flimsy stroller or anything.

[Nysha]

22 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

I watched the hammock clip again. If you watch Sammy closely, Derick either lacks instinct or doesn't give a damn. Sammy is trying to get comfortable, mostly wanting to sit up. Most parents naturally, without thinking, adjust their kids as they squirm into a preferred position - Derick doesn't. And either Sammy is a very laid back baby or he already knows not to fuss and let his wants be known. I'm hoping he's laid back.

He probably already knows not to fuss. Did anyone else notice Israel's stutter when he was trying to explain to Derick why it was his turn on the hammock? His speech was very clear prior to that. Any bets on how much trouble he got into for arguing with Derick?

[farmgal4]

13 hours ago, floridamom said:

Please correct me if I'm missing something here but Derick had some nerve boo-hooing about people who have never met him criticizing him and his actions. Well, from what I can tell, isn't that exactly what he is doing with Jazz and now with Nate & Jeremiah? When did he meet them?...um, let's see, NEVER. Be quiet, Derick.

Another thing that is just wrong of DDD, IMO, is when he called their family a 'travesty', I think he is also insulting their daughter, Poppy. By using the term, 'family', he is bringing this little girl in to the mix. That is quite low of him. 

His in-laws think and have thought NOTHING of being on a television network that has various programming highlighting all walks of life. Why does he have a problem with it? Jim Bob and Michelle didn't mind one bit and now his sisters in law mind even less as they're skipping all the way to the bank to cash the checks. 

The last paragraph describes exactly how hypocritical this family truly is.

[kokapetl]

On 29/04/2018 at 6:13 PM, ginger90 said:

Aaaaaand....

What an asshole. The Duggar kids make decent money from TLC. 

[farmgal4]

4 minutes ago, Kokapetl said:

What an asshole. The Duggar kids make decent money from TLC. 

The SOB has some nerve.  I hope TLC ditches the entire family forever solely because of that one statement.

[Sew Sumi]

2 hours ago, Mollie said:

On tweets about TLC?  Could you post a screen shot or copy and paste what was tweeted?

I wouldn't even begin to know how to search. But yes, she has inserted herself into Derelict's TLC battles in the past.

Edited May 1, 2018 by Sew Sumi

[kokapetl]

9 hours ago, Lunera said:

Jill's recipes remind me of a Paula Deen recipe for English peas she posted on her site that got tons of funny and wtf comments. 

 

I noticed derdick deleted the post where he threatened to sue People magazine for libel. Then posted this video as damage control, which got tons of negative comments.

I can’t believe how big Izzy has gotten. 

[Temperance]

8 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

I wouldn't even begin to know how to search. But yes, she has inserted herself into Derelict's battles in the past.

Since he attacked Nate?

[farmgal4]

Just now, Temperance said:

Since he attacked Nate?

No, not that I’ve seen.

[Sew Sumi]

No, sometime after the initial wave of Jazz and before Nate. I definitely recall her sticking her nose in when Derelict has been told repeatedly to get a job. To the best of my recollection, she's echoed Derelict's "You don't know the truth."

[GeeGolly]

18 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

No, sometime after the initial wave of Jazz and before Nate. I definitely recall her sticking her nose in when Derelict has been told repeatedly to get a job. To the best of my recollection, she's echoed Derelict's "You don't know the truth."

And the her repeated insertion of "it's in the constitution" or whatever, during some Twitter war.

[magpye29]

I don't know about the rest of you, but I feel defrauded by Derek's crotch being front and center in that photo, with Sam's foot drawing the eye straight to it and Izzy also looking in that direction.  Very skeevy, if you ask me.

[GeeGolly]

8 minutes ago, magpye29 said:

I don't know about the rest of you, but I feel defrauded by Derek's crotch being front and center in that photo, with Sam's foot drawing the eye straight to it and Izzy also looking in that direction.  Very skeevy, if you ask me.

And the RED belt!

[MunichNark]

I'm currently sitting on an ICE train on my way to Berlin (it's earlyyyyyyyyyyyyy), and they've WIFI. I haven't taken a train in decades so yay.

Dreck is a total, complete, utter and wholly fucking wanker. I don't use that word lightly. He is a piece of shit, really he is. He spends all his waking hours being angry, bitter and twisted and spews hatred and vitriol. If I wasn't blocked I would still not be wasting my time on there anymore, he's not worth it. He wants to live in his twilight world, he wants attention, so let's not give it to him.

I detest this guy on a level seldom previously seen. Even Smuggar seems nearly tolerable - well okay, he doesn't either.

Jill is an idiot who cannot function in the world, neither does she want to. They will continue a while longer but one day probably far too soon, their world will explode. I can see Dreck being nasty and losing it completely. Those poor poor children.

[ginger90]

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Oh and thanks Jill, for letting us know that your hammock, which is 6" off the ground, is secure. Not like an infant in a car seat balanced on a flimsy stroller or anything.

She pointed out how secure it was with  “these jobbies “. I wonder if she knows that means shit? Looked like bungee cords to me.

[Mollie]

8 hours ago, Kokapetl said:

I can’t believe how big Izzy has gotten. 

Derick needs to quit lounging around in the hammock and start potty training Israel.  That kid is over three-years-old and still wears a diaper in the daytime.  Jill obviously can't handle her stay-at-home-mothering duties sufficiently so Derick needs to step in. 

Edited May 1, 2018 by Mollie

[Lukeysboat]

6 hours ago, ginger90 said:

She pointed out how secure it was with  “these jobbies “. I wonder if she knows that means shit? Looked like bungee cords to me.

It’s not a vulgar slang term in the U.S. She used it appropriately. 

Edited May 1, 2018 by Lukeysboat
Missed apostrophe

[Barb23]

3 hours ago, Mollie said:

Derick needs to quit lounging around in the hammock and start potty training Israel.  That kid is over three-years-old and still wears a diaper in the daytime.  Jill obviously can't handle her stay-at-home-mothering duties sufficiently so Derick needs to step in. 

I give them a pass on the potty training.  Izzy just turned 3 & it's hard to tell what he's wearing - a diaper, pull-ups or regular underwear.  Plus I read somewhere boys on average take longer to train than girls.  As I've posted before, my son was way past 4 when he got the whole potty training thing down.  It was definitely a control issue with him & he couldn't be bothered to stop what he was doing & use the bathroom.  I thought sure he would be going to kindergarten with pull ups in his backpack. 

As for Izzy, there's always Aunt Jana if his parents can't be bothered.  

[TresGatos]

18 hours ago, Temperance said:

Derick expected them and/or his in-laws to either pay all the medical bills and help pay what insurance couldn't.

Has anyone asked Derick if he even had insurance and did he respond?

[bigskygirl]

Just now, TresGatos said:

Has anyone asked Derick if he even had insurance and did he respond?

He might have insurance for himself, but I doubt he had insurance for Jill or Izzy because you know Jesus was going to take care of them and the fact Jill is the best, most special, blessed midwife of all times. In otherwords, neither one would have figure out something wrong could happen during her labor.

[Zahdii]

5 hours ago, Mollie said:

Derick needs to quit lounging around in the hammock and start potty training Israel.  That kid is over three-years-old and still wears a diaper in the daytime.  Jill obviously can't handle her stay-at-home-mothering duties sufficiently so Derick needs to step in. 

Plenty of kids, boys especially, don't potty train completely until after they're 3.  Something about how boys have more nerves and tissue to learn how to control.  But once they're ready, it's usually easier because they have a better vocabulary to understand what is wanted from them, and they're better able to make it known when they need to go.

My husband has a cousin whose son refused potty training because he was having too much fun playing, and he was stubborn as could be.  It took him until he was four before he'd use the potty, for a couple of reasons.  First, the little guy had learned to push his diaper down and pee on the back fence when he was playing.  His mom tried to corral him for regular potty breaks, but he resisted and would wait until he was outside again to pee. 

Since she was dealing with a sickly newborn, he got away with this for awhile until he got a bad diaper rash from pooping in his diaper and letting it dry on his bum.  Then his mom would have to scrape the poop off of him and put him in the bathtub to wash him off.  Soon he was pooping and then coming in and waiting in the bathroom for his mom to come clean him up, but if the baby was fussy he'd have to wait.  So he learned to get his diaper off and started climbing in the tub to wait.  After a couple of days he'd turn on the cold water and wash himself, then wander around in the yard naked from the waist down until his mom came out and put a diaper on him. 

Once his father and grandfather found him that way and laughed at "the little nudist", he decided that if he couldn't tape his own diapers on, he'd wear the underware.  But he only had a couple of pairs of those and once they were soiled, he'd have to hang around the bathroom for his mom to diaper him.  After a couple of weeks he decided that he'd wear the underware and come in to use the potty, then he could go right back outside with no diaper rash, no one laughing at him, and not having to wait until his mom had time to do the laundry.  It was a completely ass-backwards way to potty train, but that kid was ass-backwards his whole life.

[Natalie68]

On 4/27/2018 at 5:30 PM, Ohiopirate02 said:

Some of the Twitter comments mentioned his personality change.   His response is that he hasn't changed but the liberal media is to blame.  As if.

If the media could change a personality I think someone would have done something about the rabid stuff coming out of DC by now.  BZZT, try again loser.  Besides. if all one watches is Fox, how is he influenced by the liberal media?  

What is it with this guy?  He needs to take responsibility for his life and all the choices he has made.  Some people DO make stupid decisions in their 20s (and beyond) but what separates winners from losers is how you handle it, what did you learn, how are you going to change going forward.  He needs some deep personal therapy.  Stat.

[awaken]

16 hours ago, Catfin said:

Our local morning radio drive guy went after Derrick this morning. He took offense at the remarks about Nate Berk  and family and pretty much called out that Derrick needed to look at his own house/family and get a job. I think this is going to bubble up pretty big. 

Ferrick has poked the bear too much. 

Is this in Arkansas or somewhere else?  Just wondering how far the Dullard infamy has spread. 

[Natalie68]

On 4/27/2018 at 5:37 PM, ginger90 said:

 

The media is to blame! They must have hacked his Twitter!

Here is the thing.  The MEDIA is not making up his tweets.  The media may report on them but they are his words.  I think he seriously has lost touch with reality.  As long as the Duggars have been around there have been leghumpers and snarkers.  Nothing has changed.  Perhaps once the molestation and Ashley Madison stuff came out the tone might have been a bit harsher from snarkers/critics but nothing has changed except his mental stability.  Do men get postpartum depression/psychosis?

[Natalie68]

On 4/28/2018 at 4:09 PM, ginger90 said:

So he took his ball, and went “in another direction”.

Wonder if he is looking at the newly vacated chaplain position in DC and thinking, man I am a shoe in!  I have this nifty $12K ministry education, I have kids, I can do this!

[Natalie68]

On 4/29/2018 at 1:16 PM, Mollie said:

Derick doesn't seem to understand that more people complained about the Duggars being on TLC than complained about Jazz.  That's why Josh was kicked off the show and Jim Bob and Michelle.  And Derick is mistaken if he thinks people didn't complain about Derick and Jill as well.  People were horrified to see Israel screaming his head off while Jill and Derick bound him in a tight swaddling when he was past the age of that being appropriate and comforting.  It was pure torture for Israel.  People were also outraged that Derick thought the two-year-old Israel was trying to "manipulate" him because he told Derick that he loved him. 

Jill and Derick got fired from SOS Ministries in May, 2017, and returned to Arkansas from Central America with all of their belongings in May. They've never been back. But, while still collecting donations, they didn't let the public know until August that they were not returning.  Derick now claims that he and Jill left the TLC show on May, 31, but just failed to announce that until now.  Sure, Derick.  Just like you lied when you said your church was sponsoring you as a missionary in Central America and that donations would be used for missionary activities, this is just another Dillard lie in a long list of lies.     

It is sounding like perhaps TLC said they weren't dragging their crew to Central America to watch Jill hand out small chunks of banana read or watch Dickweed do any more interpretive dancing so either get with the program and do something in Arkansas or walk along.  Maybe they said fine, pay these outstanding bills and you got yourself a deal to film us here and they were told, nah, we are good.  There are eleventy billion other Duggars who can do what you do (birth babies and be they will actually be a quiet homophobe) so you go do your thing.

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

34 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

Here is the thing.  The MEDIA is not making up his tweets.  The media may report on them but they are his words.  I think he seriously has lost touch with reality.  As long as the Duggars have been around there have been leghumpers and snarkers.  Nothing has changed.  Perhaps once the molestation and Ashley Madison stuff came out the tone might have been a bit harsher from snarkers/critics but nothing has changed except his mental stability.  Do men get postpartum depression/psychosis?

Yes, some do. There's growing research on this topic. 

"A report in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that 10 percent of men worldwide showed signs of depression, often referred to as paternal postpartum depression or PPPD, from the first trimester of their wife's pregnancy through six months after the child was born. The number spiked to a whopping 26 percent during the three- to six-month period after the baby's arrival. "That's more than twice the rate of depression we usually see in men," explains James F. Paulson, Ph.D., associate professor of psychology at Old Dominion University, in Norfolk, Virginia, and lead author of the survey, which assessed 43 studies of more than 28,000 fathers worldwide."

"Experts estimate that one in four new fathers becomes depressed after the birth of their child, and a 2014 study published in Pediatrics found that depression among new dads increases by 68 percent during the first five years of baby's life."

https://www.parents.com/parenting/dads/sad-dads/ 

I think we are just now in the past decade or so starting to really understand the scope of & openly talk about postpartum depression in women, while still largely ignoring prenatal depression in pregnant women (which I had) & pretty much ignoring paternal postpartum depression all together.  I'm glad to see there is an uptick in men talking about PPPD & research on it.  We have a lot of work to do when it comes to prenatal/postpartum depression for both sexes, it seems.

Edited May 1, 2018 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[Natalie68]

On 4/30/2018 at 5:06 AM, cdp73 said:

Why is she basically taking a picture of her crotch?

She wants you to see she is in jeans.  A regular hipster that Jill.

[bigskygirl]

His life has not turn out the way he wanted it to since the day he started talking with JB in order to marry a Duggar daughter, and the need to go out in the world to turn the evil heathens to follow his way of thinking. Jill got pregnant right away, his job at Wal Mart did not turn out well at all, the molestation scandal hit the fan, TLC did not want to film him trying to save souls in Danger America, and Jill turn out to be clinging wife who has to have hand hold 24/7/365 and expect others to take care of her children. He is taking it out on JB, TLC, and others who dare have a show on TLC and not follow his way of thinking. Real life has given him the ole thumb down, and he is not happy about it at all.

[Natalie68]

22 hours ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

One thing that has been bothering about Derick's Twitter rampage, is his response about what if Izzy or Sam was gay.  He claims that he would love the child, but I don't buy that.  He would force the child to undergo conversion therapy (or whatever name it will be rebranded 10+ years from now).  If the child refuses, Derick will cut off all contact.  I watch enough of RuPaul's Drag Race to know what will happen. 

The kid would be off to Alert so quickly it would be amazing.  

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

2 minutes ago, bigskygirl said:

His life has not turn out the way he wanted it to since the day he started talking with JB in order to marry a Duggar daughter, and the need to go out in the world to turn the evil heathens to follow his way of thinking. Jill got pregnant right away, his job at Wal Mart did not turn out well at all, the molestation scandal hit the fan, TLC did not want to film him trying to save souls in Danger America, and Jill turn out to be clinging wife who has to have hand hold 24/7/365 and expect others to take care of her children. He is taking it out on JB, TLC, and others who dare have a show on TLC and not follow his way of thinking. Real life has given him the ole thumb down, and he is not happy about it at all.

This.^^^

Add in some possible paternal postpartum depression and it's the perfect storm for an epic downward spiral (brought to us in real-time via Twitter). 

Edited May 1, 2018 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[bigskygirl]

1 minute ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

This.^^^

Add in some possible paternal postpartum depression and it's the perfect storm for an epic fall from grace.

Hmmm... I do not know if he is suffering from paternal postpartum depression, but I think Jill is suffering from depression after the birth of Izzy. Neither one of them seem interested in Izzy at all and seem to blame the poor kid for a lot of their problems. I think they both have some form of mental illness, but neither one will admit it and get the help they both need.

[Natalie68]

On 4/30/2018 at 8:10 AM, bigskygirl said:

I admit I feel bad for Jill because her parents are idiots, and she suffered at the hands of JB, Michelle, and Josh. She is also married to a class A moron with the sensitivity of a wet washcloth sitting in dirty water for a few days, but when it comes to her so-called midwife work, pretending to be saving evil heathens, and the lack of intelligence when it comes to her pregnancy and the way she is raising her children, my patience and sympathy slowly slips away.

Here is the thing.  A lot of us had complete idiots as parents and didn't turn out to be idiots ourselves.  She is on her own, has seen how others live, has access to the internet (now) so she is choosing to perpetuate the idiocy.  She is choosing to live this way so while I agree their upbringing was horrendous, at some point we have to let the adults take responsibility for their idiocy as it stands now.  James Garner (for you youngin's, he was in the Rockford Files and The Notebook) had a horrible upbringing and rose above it.  People do it everyday.  I am not lecturing you BIGSKYGIRL (SORRY if it sounds like it!!!), I am merely venting that these people need to be held responsible for their lives like the rest of us.  If all my missteps were excused because I had absent/uninterested parents I would never have become a self sufficient grown ass woman.  My patience slipped away and flipped off the Duggars while it left the building!

[Natalie68]

23 minutes ago, MyPeopleAreNordic said:

Yes, some do. There's growing research on this topic. 

"A report in the Journal of the American Medical Association found that 10 percent of men worldwide showed signs of depression, often referred to as paternal postpartum depression or PPPD, from the first trimester of their wife's pregnancy through six months after the child was born. The number spiked to a whopping 26 percent during the three- to six-month period after the baby's arrival. "That's more than twice the rate of depression we usually see in men," explains James F. Paulson, Ph.D., associate professor of psychology at Old Dominion University, in Norfolk, Virginia, and lead author of the survey, which assessed 43 studies of more than 28,000 fathers worldwide."

"Experts estimate that one in four new fathers becomes depressed after the birth of their child, and a 2014 study published in Pediatrics found that depression among new dads increases by 68 percent during the first five years of baby's life."

https://www.parents.com/parenting/dads/sad-dads/ 

I think we are just now in the past decade or so starting to really understand the scope of & openly talk about postpartum depression in women, while still largely ignoring prenatal depression in pregnant women (which I had) & pretty much ignoring paternal postpartum depression all together.  I'm glad to see there is an uptick in men talking about PPPD & research on it.  We have a lot of work to do when it comes to prenatal/postpartum depression for both sexes, it seems.

Thank you!  Maybe this is it.  The wedding/mom w cancer/loss of job/then baby was too much for his brain.  Or he is just a dick.