Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!

[Arwen Evenstar]

Yeah, her remark to Ms Baio was dripping with vinegar. Rebuking a 2 time cancer survivor who was only lending her support to you is just plain rude. That is all.

[sometimesy]

Caught on film: Cdillydumdum and her battle against cancer. 

 

[bigskygirl]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

He needs to take a long hard look at himself before making this comment. I put Derick, Jill, and Cathy in the same category of my in-laws. And yes, this is considered an insult.

[BitterApple]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

That's rich. An unemployed slacker telling people they have no lives.

[Annb67]

2 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Oh Derick I understand your frustration, but if you went and applied yourself that could change

[Celia Rubenstein]

What was Derrick's tweet in response to? Whatever the "cat came back" things was, it is is gone now ...

[EVS]

3 minutes ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

What was Derrick's tweet in response to? Whatever the "cat came back" things was, it is is gone now ...

Someone he keeps blocking who keeps coming back using different names or accounts.

[On the Bias]

So Cathy says she considers herself a “chemo survivor.”  In other words, she’s announcing that the awful thing that happened to her, the thing she is so relieved have survived, isn’t the cancer that nearly killed her but the chemo that helped to save her life.  What a horrible thing to say.  

[Arwen Evenstar]

2 hours ago, On the Bias said:

So Cathy says she considers herself a “chemo survivor.”  In other words, she’s announcing that the awful thing that happened to her, the thing she is so relieved have survived, isn’t the cancer that nearly killed her but the chemo that helped to save her life.  What a horrible thing to say.  

Sometimes chemo is so brutal, to many people it feels worse than the disease, and in some cases, it is. I think it would have been ok to say she preferred to call herself a chemo survivor instead. For better or worse, Twitter limits your characters. She could easily tweet another tweet to be sure she clarified herself.

[awaken]

5 hours ago, BitterApple said:

That's rich. An unemployed slacker telling people they have no lives.

Darn, I’m still blocked. Somebody tweet this!  

[bigskygirl]

I had to reply to it. Darn these people! I really do not want to reply, but they do push my buttons at times. I must use my reply powers for good not evil.

[Sew Sumi]

I think he deleted it. I don't see the original post on his page anymore. 

[Temperance]

7 hours ago, bigskygirl said:

He needs to take a long hard look at himself before making this comment. I put Derick, Jill, and Cathy in the same category of my in-laws. And yes, this is considered an insult.

LOL!

[bigskygirl]

18 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

I think he deleted it. I don't see the original post on his page anymore. 

Darn! I was hoping he would reply to my post.

[Sew Sumi]

Your post probably drove him to the slightest nugget of self-reflection, causing him to delete the post. 

[Loves2Dance]

19 hours ago, bigskygirl said:

Darn! I was hoping he would reply to my post.

What did it say? I missed it before he deleted it. 

[bigskygirl]

3 minutes ago, Loves2Dance said:

What did it say? I missed it before he deleted it. 

Really... A lazy slacker who ask for donations saying some people have no life. Take a long hard look at yourself before making a statement like this one.

I think mine might have been the last post before it was deleted.

[On the Bias]

23 hours ago, Arwen Evenstar said:

Sometimes chemo is so brutal, to many people it feels worse than the disease, and in some cases, it is. I think it would have been ok to say she preferred to call herself a chemo survivor instead. For better or worse, Twitter limits your characters. She could easily tweet another tweet to be sure she clarified herself.

I’m so sorry, @Arwen, I didn’t mean to imply that chemo isn’t rough or to discount your experience. What I was trying to get at was what I found so offensive about Cathy’s tweet:  that in implying that her chemo was an impediment to her survival rather than a cause of it, she implied that her doctors were harming her rather than healing her, and that she would have been better off if she had never consulted them at all.  But perhaps I’ve only put my foot deeper into my mouth!

[mythoughtis]

I’ve never had cancer, so I can’t say for sure. However. I have had some friends that did. Chemo is very hard on your body. It leaves aftereffects( which probably differ by person).  One friend has continuing numbness in her fingers and toes. One said even getting into the refrigerator for food  was  too cold. That friend had a Heart attack  because of the strain on his heart( chemo every 3 weeks for 2 years).  I’ve read that children who get it have lots of health issues as adults. So I think chemo survivor might be a valid term.   I do however think people who attempt treatment are Fighters! 

Edited February 5, 2018 by mythoughtis

[Loves2Dance]

2 hours ago, mythoughtis said:

I’ve never had cancer, so I can’t say for sure. However. I have had some friends that did. Chemo is very hard on your body. It leaves aftereffects( which probably differ by person).  One friend has continuing numbness in her fingers and toes. One said even getting into the refrigerator for food  was  too cold. That friend had a Heart attack  because of the strain on his heart( chemo every 3 weeks for 2 years).  I’ve read that children who get it have lots of health issues as adults. So I think chemo survivor might be a valid term.   I do however think people who attempt treatment are Fighters! 

Ehhhh...I think 'Chemo Survivor' in the way Cathy wrote it is a slap in the face to those who didn't win their battles. 

[Arwen Evenstar]

3 hours ago, On the Bias said:

I’m so sorry, @Arwen, I didn’t mean to imply that chemo isn’t rough or to discount your experience. What I was trying to get at was what I found so offensive about Cathy’s tweet:  that in implying that her chemo was an impediment to her survival rather than a cause of it, she implied that her doctors were harming her rather than healing her, and that she would have been better off if she had never consulted them at all.  But perhaps I’ve only put my foot deeper into my mouth!

No offense taken. I don’t think you offended anyone else, as posters here are kind and would understand no offense was meant.

 

21 minutes ago, Loves2Dance said:

Ehhhh...I think 'Chemo Survivor' in the way Cathy wrote it is a slap in the face to those who didn't win their battles. 

Considering you went through hell and back with your dx, so many people didn’t survive the prog you were given.

To the other cancer survivors on this board, you are all badasses!

Cathy should never demean the experiences of others. It’s a brotherhood/ sisterhood  I’ve met many beautiful, people in my inpatient clinic who I’m in awe of. Many of them are sicker than I could ever dream of being, yet they keep on keeping on.

[Maharincess]

I hate people like Cathy and anybody else who says their "god" healed them. When there are thousands of innocent, beautiful children who die of cancer, starvation and other horrible diseases EVERY SINGLE DAY, what nerve this bitch has to say something like that.  Those children are one of the 758256 reasons why I'm an atheist.  Who the hell does she think she is to think she's so much more special and deserving then those children?! Arrogant asshole.    Don't even get me started on giving credit to a man in the sky instead of the educated people who did the actual healing. 

Sorry. One of my major pet peeves.  I think this thread is bad for my blood pressure. 

[GeeGolly]

Chemo sucks. Many times cancer patients are brought to the brink of death to kill the cancer.  For many patients, including Cathy, these chemical cocktails are the path to survival. There are still cancers out there that are incurable and I'm sure folks with those cancers would love the option to "survive chemo". Words are powerful and when mixed with arrogance words can be down right mean. 

Even using the analogy of the man on the roof refusing rescue efforts because God's got this. There is someone else on another roof, praying just as hard, and rescuers never come. 

What would Cathy say about God if she lost a loved one to cancer? What are her thoughts of the many people who didn't "survive chemo"?

[bigskygirl]

Cathy probably would say the evilness took over, and the patient did not pray or read the bible enough, or worked hard to have people turn their life over to God. Remember she believes she will see her first husband in heaven because he found God before he died.

Edited February 5, 2018 by bigskygirl

[ginger90]

hmmmm

 

[bigskygirl]

Must be the insomnia, headache coming on and dry eyes because I had to respond to his post.

Edited February 5, 2018 by bigskygirl

[GeeGolly]

Hypocrisy hy·poc·ri·sy noun

The practice of claiming to have moral standards or beliefs to which one's own behavior does not conform; pretense. The practice of being a Duggar and Duggar adjacent.

Derick had to have watched the Superbowl to know nobody knelt, never mind the fact that watching sports is hypocritical for all Duggars.

JB & M drove miles out of the way to buy milk from a store that didn't also sell alcohol. Michelle even protested a local store that was applying for a license to sell alcohol. She wasn't protesting liquor stores she was protesting liquor being sold in local mom & pops.

Football has men in form fitted clothing and scantily clad cheerleaders. Using Duggar theory shouldn't they be avoiding sports and protesting what they wear? 

[Celia Rubenstein]

You know, about this whole God saved Cathy from cancer thing, I was about to say that maybe Cathy just doesn't have the brain power to understand how ignorant and insensitive and illogical what she is saying is. That she is spewing glib, shallow little platitudes about God and health and healing because that is her level of understanding. But then it occurred to me that this is an educated, professional, grown ass woman who absolutely has the intellectual ability to grasp the ugly nuances of what she is saying about how God singled her out for healing while leaving others to die. 

There are some people out there in the world I would not fault for such a simplistic take on the subject. But Cathy should know better. She should be able to recognize and articulate a more sophisticated understanding of how faith and medical science interact without demeaning other cancer patients or dismissing the doctors who worked to save her life.

I am left thinking that it's not that Cathy can't articulate a better understanding of those things ... it's that Cathy won't because she simply doesn't feel that way. It is plain old hubris at work. She really does believe she is special and was singled out by God for healing. The doctors were mere tools He used to heal her, and you don't thank the hammer that drove the nail, you thank the carpenter. Other cancer patients, well ... If the Lort didn't show them the same favor it was at best part of some great plan. At worst they were less godly souls who paid the price for not walking closely enough with Jesus. Cathy, on the other hand, was so devoted to her faith that she was favored by God while little children with the same disease were left to languish and die. She truly thinks she is that special. 

Which, of course, entitles her to be a smug ass old bitty who goes on social media to condescend to the masses. Any challenges to her narcissistic view of her own importance only reinforce her opinion of herself as superior and others as inferior, ignorant godless haters she is entitled to talk down to. There is no reasoning with someone like her because reason plays no part in her thinking. Her world view is entirely ego driven and hopelessly self-serving. What's more she'll never question herself because she sees her approach to life as "faith based" and the last thing you do is question your faith when your faith just saved you from cancer. 

I think the world is going to be stuck listening to Cathy's idiotic, insensitive proclamations about God and healing until God himself gets sick of listening to her and smites her ass with lightening bolt one day. Although her devoted followers will of course proclaim it to be the hand of Satan that  brought her down because as everybody knows, Cathy and God were so tight and all. Blech!

[floridamom]

My father passed away from cancer at 67 years old. He was an Italian man who lived in Italy during WWII, with nothing to eat, a bombed out country, etc. He was the eldest of 7 children who made the bread in the morning before going to school for his mother, pre-war. He had a hard life running from the Nazis when they stormed through Italy 'recruiting' soldiers who were as young as 15 years old. He had a hard life. After marrying my mother and coming to the U.S., he continued to work hard arriving with only a dime in his pocket getting off the boat in NY. He worked for absolutely everything he had and held a belief and faith in God. Why didn't God heal him, Cathy? He suffered for 4 years with cancer before he withered away and left this world right before my eyes.

We all have to make peace with what goes down. Like posted earlier, I believe it simply wasn't Cathy's time to go. I read no soft heart from her for those who didn't survive or for the loved ones they left behind all too soon.

[Annb67]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

hmmmm

 

I'm so confused. Im not watching but I don't see anyone kneeling while I am watching? Wth Derick?

[ginger90]

I guess for those who passed due to cancer, the line to god was tied up with those praying to find the perfect wedding dress.

[Marigold]

Cathy and Derick are the most offensive of the entire crew (minus Josh, that goes without saying).

I find Cathy to be so insulting, rude, entitled and condescending.  As @Celia Rubenstein said, Cathy is educated and has been working with a variety of people for many years.  There is no excuse for her way of thinking. 

Even when you think you might be on the same page as her, you still can't stand her. She tweeted about homeschooling (we homeschool) and that was condescending. She tweets about her cancer and she even annoys people with that! Cancer is something that unites people. Nope, Cathy is awful to people with her cancer too. 

If I were at a wedding and had to choose sitting with either Michelle or Cathy, I would choose Michelle. 

And years back, we thought the Dillards would be a breath of fresh air. What a joke. 

[flyingdi]

Why does God inspire people to become doctors if God doesn't want doctors to heal people?

People could certainly find easier ways to get rich if that's all they wanted. Something that maybe doesn't require 20 or so years of school.

If God didn't want me to see doctors there wouldn't be doctors.

Stop blaming or crediting God for everything!  God gave us free will in the hope we would make decisions for ourselves!

God wants children not sheeple!

Rant over!  Thank you for your time!

[Jynnan tonnix]

1 hour ago, Annb67 said:

I'm so confused. Im not watching but I don't see anyone kneeling while I am watching? Wth Derick?

To be fair, he could just watch the anthem to see whether there was kneeling or not and decide whether to watch the game itself based on that...

[MORGANH]

I’m so conflicted typing this because it feels wrong but here goes. If Cathy only thinks that God heals, then why did she even consult doctors when she got sick?

I think I need a special type of Prayer Coset now...for a good long visit

[Marigold]

42 minutes ago, OneMoreStop said:

I’m so conflicted typing this because it feels wrong but here goes. If Cathy only thinks that God heals, then why did she even consult doctors when she got sick?

I think I need a special type of Prayer Coset now...for a good long visit

That's my question. 

Does cathy wear a seatbelt?

[zoomama]

@GeeGolly,    i just c/p a sentence from your above post, giving you f/b credit. i thought it was worth sharing with the world and hope you dont mind...

 

'Words are powerful and when mixed with arrogance words can be down right mean. '

[JoanArc]

On 2/3/2018 at 5:08 PM, EVS said:

Someone he keeps blocking who keeps coming back using different names or accounts.

I thought it was a sled cat parody account!

 

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Does cathy wear a seatbelt?

Her passive/aggressive response:

[Spencer Hastings]

5 hours ago, ginger90 said:

hmmmm

 

Those people who are kneeling are also Americans.  They are Americans who want to be treated as such, instead of second class citizens.  You unbelievably hypocritical moron. 

[JoanArc]

9 minutes ago, Spencer Hastings said:

Those people who are kneeling are also Americans.  They are Americans who want to be treated as such, instead of second class citizens.  You unbelievably hypocritical moron. 

Does Derick know the bible doesn't mention America, democracy, or freedom of speech at all?

[kokapetl]

6 hours ago, ginger90 said:

hmmmm

 

Americans appear to want to see your ugly face even less. 

[Arwen Evenstar]

Nasty, judgmental, hateful little stick insect! 

[kokapetl]

JFC. Why would some alleged god even give a shit about some inconsequential sports game in a country he never mentioned?

Edited February 5, 2018 by Kokapetl

[JennyMominFL]

As someone who has survived with AIDS for nearly 28 years, most of the people diagnosed when I was (1990) are dead. I'm an atheist. I have no faith. Doctors kept me alive. I've had people tell me god gave me AIDS and  in reverse, That god let me survive. That's bull. Survival with a possible terminal illness has nothing to do with god or  anything. And I don't  like the term "fight " either. The people who fought and died didnt fight any less or more than me. It's simply luck of the draw. For me, honestly, the idea that its chance, and that it has nothing to do with god, is far more comforting. I've watched other who do believe this, struggling with  why  their  god did or didnt heal them or their loved ones.

Oh and Derek. I served this country to protect people right to do what they want during the National Anthem.. Stand,  sit kneel, doesn't matter to me. That's freedom

Edited February 6, 2018 by JennyMominFL

[BetyBee]

6 hours ago, ginger90 said:

hmmmm

 

Well, thank the Lord, no one was kneeling, lol.

[Arwen Evenstar]

It’s called free speech, Derweed!

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

13 hours ago, Maharincess said:

I hate people like Cathy and anybody else who says their "god" healed them. When there are thousands of innocent, beautiful children who die of cancer, starvation and other horrible diseases EVERY SINGLE DAY, what nerve this bitch has to say something like that.  Those children are one of the 758256 reasons why I'm an atheist.  Who the hell does she think she is to think she's so much more special and deserving then those children?! Arrogant asshole.    Don't even get me started on giving credit to a man in the sky instead of the educated people who did the actual healing. 

Sorry. One of my major pet peeves.  I think this thread is bad for my blood pressure. 

It's one of my major pet peeves, too, @Maharincess.  In fact, "Christians" like Ms. Cathy (and Derrick & the Duggars) are the main things that turn me off from Christianity/religion in general.   

How did Derrick's dad die, everyone? I cannot remember.  Was it something Jesus could have healed him from but he just didn't pray enough or have enough faith? You'd think someone who lost their spouse/father of their kids might have a little humilty when it comes to Jesus saving lives and all....

[Sew Sumi]

Derelict's dad had a heart attack in his sleep. At least that's the story they're sticking with. Why didn't God clear Rick's arteries?

[bigskygirl]

heart attacks and suicide are two of the leading deaths for law enforcement personnel. She goes on and on about her husband being in heaven and finding God before he died, but no mention of him trying to help others in his line of work or the fact his work could have lead to his heart attack. When my husband almost died due to his kidneys shutting down, my last concern was about him finding God and going to heaven. I was more concern about him getting better, and his medical team knowing what to do to help him heal physically and emotionally. I admit I do get on my soapbox about kidney disease and organ donating (you may have notice,) but at least I am not trying to shove my religious beliefs down people's throats or using my husband's medical condition to promote any possible prejudices and hatred towards certain others. I often wonder how Derick's father feels about how his memory is being used to promote prejudice and hatred towards others, or Cathy hiding behind God and heaven instead of talking about the work her own husband did to help others.

Edited February 5, 2018 by bigskygirl

[Angeltoes]

6 hours ago, floridamom said:

My father passed away from cancer at 67 years old. He was an Italian man who lived in Italy during WWII, with nothing to eat, a bombed out country, etc. He was the eldest of 7 children who made the bread in the morning before going to school for his mother, pre-war. He had a hard life running from the Nazis when they stormed through Italy 'recruiting' soldiers who were as young as 15 years old. He had a hard life. After marrying my mother and coming to the U.S., he continued to work hard arriving with only a dime in his pocket getting off the boat in NY. He worked for absolutely everything he had and held a belief and faith in God. Why didn't God heal him, Cathy? He suffered for 4 years with cancer before he withered away and left this world right before my eyes.

We all have to make peace with what goes down. Like posted earlier, I believe it simply wasn't Cathy's time to go. I read no soft heart from her for those who didn't survive or for the loved ones they left behind all too soon.

I am in awe of your father - I can't imagine arriving in another country with nothing to his name but courage and determination.   He had things happen in his life that today's pampered children couldn't even begin to imagine.  He sounds amazing and I am truly sorry for your loss.