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Jill, Derick & the Kids: Moving On!!


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and there are different types of ways that missions are funded. I know quite a few missionaries that keep homes here because they live in inexpensive areas and have family nearby that allow them to do so. There isn't "one way" to be a missionary.

I realize that people may have a problem philosophically with what Jill and Derick are doing. Ok, we get it. But so far they aren't doing anything that differently than thousands of other missionaries who have have gone before them and who are working now.

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My issue is their lack of transparency ("Where would all this money you're asking for be going?")

I agree. The lack of transparency equates a lack of accountability, and they appear to want people to blindly give money because they're fans of the show and it's up to them how they spend it. That's not typically how people go about raising support for missions, lol. If nothing else, it is consistent with how the Duggars roll.

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I don't really think this missionary job is what Derick had in mind when it came to serving "overseas."  This seems to principally be an administrative job, managing the vacationing missionaries that come to town to paint fingernails and convert the heathens.

 

Since someone upthread stated that the summer missionary season is ending it will be interesting to see what they do.  If they stay on, without having to manage visitors, maybe they will actually be able to do what they want, and spend time with the locals.  I am hoping that they have that opportunity to work on their own with the community.  That is when Jill will find out if she is meant for this, or not.  And at some point won't they report to their supporters what they have been doing?  I get newsletters from a medical mission I support updating me on what is happening, and I would think the same would be expected of them.  Especially if they want donations.

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There are all kinds of missions, but Christ's own words before he departed tells his believers to go into all the world and share the good news of the gospel. That's not a very popular message these days and many Christians have made a mess in their attempts, but the truth is this: what compels believers to step out of their comfort zone and share the gospel comes from God and that's a calling. Men and women all over the globe have been obeying Christ's mandate for more than 2,000 years. It might not be a popular topic on this board, but for many Christians it's their life purpose, as what appears to be the case for Derick and Jill.

I am always supportive of missionaries because -- while I'm not called -- I find it fascinating. I have friends doing so many things especially in farming technology through plans like the Heifer Project. It wasn't until I read and heard about the Duggar concept that I feared there was so much negative even today. Sad. 

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I wonder if Jill is paying for JB and Michelle's visit. This will probably be one of the first trips he has paid for in a while. I don't think he is in any financial distress, but it wouldn't surprise me to find he wants the mission donations to pay his way.

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I have a strong feeling that all those goods are still at the McMansion.  Long term to J&D might be four or six months.  Remember, Jill has to get home soon.  Blessing #2 won't wait forever.   Gotta have another grand baby in the oven or Daddy Duggar won't be happy until he runs out of fingers and toes to count them all on.

Waiting patiently to hear that baby #2 (Jesus) is indeed coming this year and is currently baking in the oven!

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I wonder if Jill is paying for JB and Michelle's visit. This will probably be one of the first trips he has paid for in a while. I don't think he is in any financial distress, but it wouldn't surprise me to find he wants the mission donations to pay his way.

Do they have to be accountable to the IRS for where the money goes? It grates to think that Boob and Michelle's vacation might be paid for with donations.

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I am always supportive of missionaries because -- while I'm not called -- I find it fascinating. I have friends doing so many things especially in farming technology through plans like the Heifer Project. It wasn't until I read and heard about the Duggar concept that I feared there was so much negative even today. Sad.

I love the Heifer Project and other organizations like them! My favorite is the Dalit Freedom Network. These are so very worthwhile and do quite a good job raising money, helping to make a substantial difference by empowering those who are otherwise without hope and personal freedom, along with bringing awareness to their plight.

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Pickles has a lot of new pics up on FB

Derrick has a legit pornstashe. It looks awful. He looks almost like a Mario brother but their skinny cousin

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Oh dear, Derick really isn't a mustache guy, is he? But then my own personal view is - few men are. IMO, not a lot of guys can successfully rock the mustache-only look. I like a clean-shaven face or a full beard. No goatee only, no Van Dyke only. Yuck. And the beard should not be thick and shaggy, or long and wispy either. But something well-trimmed and very English professorish-looking. Also needed, a tweed jacket with elbow patches. :>)

 

PS - the mustache does age Derick about 10 years though...

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OMG - his face is lopsided!!!

It seems strange that he's having work done presumably to bring his jaws into alignment, but now it looks as if the bottom half of his face isn't in line with the top half. Is that usual with this kind of surgery? Cause ... yeeps. Maybe he's thinking the big Tony-Orlando mustache will camouflage his current Picasso-woulda-loved-it look?

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Why does Derrick keep doing things to his face that make him even uglier? In their faith, can a wife tell her husband he looks terrible or is that against their "keep it sweet" philosophy?

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Why does Derrick keep doing things to his face that make him even uglier? In their faith, can a wife tell her husband he looks terrible or is that against their "keep it sweet" philosophy?

The wife would first need a sense of taste. Jill? Not so much.

 

Having to deal with a child-wife turned mother, in a foreign country no less, likely ages Derrick a bit

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The pic of them on the beach shows that Derick grew back the beard to some extent. And that Jilly Muffin really needs to wear a bra at all times. Yowza! 

 

He just isn't that attractive. 

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Oh dear, Derick really isn't a mustache guy, is he? But then my own personal view is - few men are. IMO, not a lot of guys can successfully rock the mustache-only look. I like a clean-shaven face or a full beard. No goatee only, no Van Dyke only. Yuck. And the beard should not be thick and shaggy, or long and wispy either. But something well-trimmed and very English professorish-looking. Also needed, a tweed jacket with elbow patches. :>)

 

PS - the mustache does age Derick about 10 years though...

Seriously!! You could tell me Derrick was 40 and I would believe you

He reminds me of Matthew McConahghy in Dallas Buyers Club

Straight 70's, crackhead look. lol

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I love all the comments esp "still can't rip my eyes away from Jill's gazungas. Holy Milk Makers Batman!"

I know but I feel a little bad for her, some of the comments about her boobs are pretty awkward to read, hope she doesn't see them

A bunch of strangers commenting on how big  your boobs are has to be a little embarrassing ( even if its true!) lol

But seriously is that size increase typical of a BF person? BC I would be terrified to go from my previous small size to those knockers. No thanks and not looking forward to that lol

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Is it just my imagination or is that one big 4 month old? He's staring right at the camera, eyes focused and everything. I don't have any kids, but my sister has 3 and I don't recall any of them being able to visually focus and stare at a camera from 6-7 feet away at 4 months old. I'm not trying to imply anything, but whatever....I got to get back to work. 

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When you breast feed you get really big, but when your done breast feeding they usually return close to their former size.  When you're pregnant they begin to grow larger.  Now if Jill keeps getting pregnant/breast feeding non stop then she will probably stay large.


Is it just my imagination or is that one big 4 month old? He's staring right at the camera, eyes focused and everything. I don't have any kids, but my sister has 3 and I don't recall any of them being able to visually focus and stare at a camera from 6-7 feet away at 4 months old. I'm not trying to imply anything, but whatever....I got to get back to work. 

My little guy, when he was very little, was very aware and alert even before 4 months of age so I don't think that's too unusual.

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Maybe Jilly Muffin is too busy & doesn't have time to shave him.

She sure is getting busy in lots and lots of photo ops. She is loving all the attention that she is getting from the women and children in that little village. Personally I'm happy for her because we all know that MEchelle as much as she claims to love the grandchildren wouldn't even bother giving Izzy any attention.

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Wow, that jaw surgery has done a number on Derrick's facial features. It seriously looks like his mustache and chin were Photoshopped on in that picture with the other men. But, his hair is looking somewhat better?

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I'm probably in the minority, but get rid of the mustache and his face looks more attractive than it was previously. I still don't find Derrick that attractive (for many reasons other than his appearance), but he looks a lot better. 

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I'm probably in the minority, but get rid of the mustache and his face looks more attractive than it was previously. I still don't find Derrick that attractive (for many reasons other than his appearance), but he looks a lot better. 

 

I never found Derick attractive, but I don't really feel comfortable making fun of someone's appearance. Especially since with these people there are literally hundreds of other reasons to make fun of them. I actually think Derick and Jill look happier where they are than they ever did in America. It's in the eyes; in all the photos they took in Murica they had "photo crazy eyes." You know, that look you get in your eyes when you have to smile in a photo but aren't actually happy. Their eyes look happier wherever they are now. I have no idea why, but I'd speculate it has something to do with being away from the Duggars.

 

I do agree about the mustache but I've only met one man in my life who can pull off a mustache. I'm not sure I'll ever meet another.

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I think they're both looking much more relaxed than they did before they left. And it looks as if Jill has dropped a good bit of what was left of the baby weight. That stache though has got to go ;)

Probably relaxed from all that sweet yesca he's smoking.  It's the only explanation for the facial hair.

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Is it just my imagination or is that one big 4 month old? He's staring right at the camera, eyes focused and everything. I don't have any kids, but my sister has 3 and I don't recall any of them being able to visually focus and stare at a camera from 6-7 feet away at 4 months old. I'm not trying to imply anything, but whatever....I got to get back to work.

He was huge at birth. They did a Caesarian delivery because he was transverse breech, but she probably would have ended up with a uni-hole/cloaca if she delivered vaginaly.
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I'm probably in the minority, but get rid of the mustache and his face looks more attractive than it was previously. I still don't find Derrick that attractive (for many reasons other than his appearance), but he looks a lot better. 

 

I'm not a huge fan of the moustache, but I don't think it's terrible either. It looks OK.  I'm going to be charitable for once, though, and say a big GOOD FOR YOU, DILLARDS for trying something new (after all, it's only hair!)  I'd much rather have them be overseas than stuck at home, and like all 20-somethings, try new things, some of which they'll stick to, and some of which they won't.

 

I still find their religious beliefs beyond horriying, and the conversion of Christians to Christianity completely ridiculous, but isn't this what a lot of people wanted Derick to do?  Get Jill away from her fucked up family, and try new things, see new people, eat new food, experience new languages, create their own family dynamic, etc?  If the moustache is symbolic of that, then I'm pro-moustache. (Yes, I'm making the mo' a symbol of resistance against the Duggars)

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