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10 hours ago, Portia said:

Those are both Paw Patrol chacaters, so they may be a set despite the different colors. Blue for the police dog, red for the fire dog?

they are sold like that in a set at target. Chase and Marshall - one blue, one red

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39 minutes ago, Growsonwalls said:

New YT video:

 

Somethings haven't changed since the show. Jill talked over Derick then and she talks over him now.

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1 hour ago, Growsonwalls said:

New YT video:

 

Why did I watch that???  They are both nearly incoherent with barely a complete sentence from either one.

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8 minutes ago, Suzn said:

Why did I watch that???  They are both nearly incoherent with barely a complete sentence from either one.

No kidding! I think it's easier to have teeth pulled than trying to understand anything those dolts were saying! For people who seem to be all about sex lately, seems like only shit was coming out of their mouths when talking about relationships and dating..sheesh! Spit the words out people!

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

Somethings haven't changed since the show. Jill talked over Derick then and she talks over him now.

Beyond annoying! If she would've let him speak, it may have been easier to understand anything they were saying!

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From the transcript/summary I read, they use a whole lot words to say they wouldn't change much from their own courtship/"dating with a purpose." These people are ridiculous.

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10 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

They claimed that they set their own boundaries. Then Derelict goes on to say he regretted not holding hands before engagement. Jill then says that would have to have been cleared with Boob. That doesn't sound like they could set their own boundaries. 

OMG. They lied? :sheesh:

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12 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said:

They claimed that they set their own boundaries. Then Derelict goes on to say he regretted not holding hands before engagement. Jill then says that would have to have been cleared with Boob. That doesn't sound like they could set their own boundaries. 

They also said that Derick had dated before Jill and that they both preferred their courtship setup to those casual, unsupervised relationships.

 

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If you speed up the video it's not as bad.

I did get a chuckle when Derick commented that they didn't know everything about their kids dating because the boys were still very young, then he said "And even after we've been through that we'll be more experienced but we won't know everything." That's pretty self-aware for someone married to a Duggar.

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7 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said:

At least they said that a 24 year old who lived on their own wouldn't be subjected to parental rules. 

I'll go one step further... at least they said, a 24 year old living on their own - full stop.

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10 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said:

They also vascillated between calling it courtship/dating/dating with a "purpose." Stick to one! 

Which is especially stupid because all the Duggar have always defined courting as "dating with a purpose." Why they're acting like they're changing anything is beyond me.

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Derick stumbled through this whole virginity thing, "Would you rather look back and know you and your spouse were virgins or were not?

Frankly Derick, I don't give a shit if my spouse had sex before we married.

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22 minutes ago, iwantcookies said:

Did Dereck say he was a virgin when he got married ?

He gave that impression, however I'm not sure he said it. I think he said he dated before Jill, but again I'm not sure.

They rarely finished a sentence, they talked over each other and they kept moving their faces away from the phone, so it was a bit hard to know exactly what they said at times. That and I wasn't paying full attention.

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29 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Derick stumbled through this whole virginity thing, "Would you rather look back and know you and your spouse were virgins or were not?

Wha? I mean, of course I'd rather us not be virgins. I don't want to be my doctor's first patient, my teacher's first student, my pilot's first passenger...Common sense here lol

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I think he MIGHT have been trying to say that when you marry someone and plan to be with them for the rest of your life, do you hope that person is a virgin, and if you do... then shouldn't you give that to them as well.

Maybe.

They were slightly incoherent.

 

I did get that they both were trying to say that they aren't really into the courtship idea wholly, but Jill had trouble because she's lingually so stuck on the word courtship since she was raised with it.  

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19 minutes ago, ouinason said:

I think he MIGHT have been trying to say that when you marry someone and plan to be with them for the rest of your life, do you hope that person is a virgin, and if you do... then shouldn't you give that to them as well.

Maybe.

They were slightly incoherent.

 

I did get that they both were trying to say that they aren't really into the courtship idea wholly, but Jill had trouble because she's lingually so stuck on the word courtship since she was raised with it.  

Maybe, and that's a big maybe, I'll listen to it again, because I got the impression that they did like their courtship, with the exception of not holding hands.

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I think they liked their relationship and how they defined it, but I think they didn't really care for calling it courtship because of what that word has come to represent, though Jill can't seem to stop using the word because of her upbringing.  I also think that they won't put that kind of pressure on their kids.

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"Yeah, Whatever, Like"...Jill was making me crazy with her speech pattern.

So what the heck did these two actually say? I'm still scratching my head trying to figure it out.

Did Derick date other girls before Jill or not?

For two people who say their children are only 5 and 3, they sure did waste a lot of time speaking about 'what that would look like in 10-15 years."

They actually have no idea who they will be or what they will be like in the future as individuals, a married couple OR as parents. So, why did they go on and on about their sons' future adolescent lives? These two sure do analyze the hell out of everything. 

If this is an example of Derick's public speaking skills, he will be an awful lawyer. I hope he does NOT ever appear in court. I need an aspirin!

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Derick and Jill definitely were virgins when they married.

I am happy I wasn't, and I am happy my husband wasn't. I feel like that could lead to always wondering if the grass is greener on the other side, truly. I also think that it helps you figure out where sex lands on your priority list. Sowing my wild oats definitely helped me prioritize the more critical qualities I was looking for in a partner. Our sex life is great, but I would MUCH rather be highly compatible in other areas like parenting, family relationships, work life balance ect vs lacking in those areas. I really do feel bad for these fundies who marry with hardly knowing their partner just to find out that they suck at everything and always wondering if there's more out there. Probably leads to more infidelity I'd imagine too. 

 

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I sort of had it both ways when I got married.  We were living in the same house about 6 months before the wedding, but not sleeping together until after.  We learned a lot about how we would function on a day to day basis, but we still had that "wedding night" that we wanted.  But that was a personal choice and our parents weren't obsessed with the status of our sex life, unlike these Duggars.

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37 minutes ago, ouinason said:

I sort of had it both ways when I got married.  We were living in the same house about 6 months before the wedding, but not sleeping together until after.  We learned a lot about how we would function on a day to day basis, but we still had that "wedding night" that we wanted.  But that was a personal choice and our parents weren't obsessed with the status of our sex life, unlike these Duggars.

In fundie land, that wouldn’t be possible because men can’t possibly control their sexual urges.

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On 11/24/2020 at 9:25 AM, rue721 said:

Wha? I mean, of course I'd rather us not be virgins. I don't want to be my doctor's first patient, my teacher's first student, my pilot's first passenger...Common sense here lol

It seems to me that if the chemistry is there, virgins can quite happily learn from each other. I do think it's important to know to at least some extent that you are sexually compatible before actually signing on the dotted line. But while you can certainly know how attracted you are to someone without real physical contact, and it's definitely possible to go on to have a fulfilling sex life even if both parties enter into the marriage having done nothing more intimate than holding hands, I think a certain amount of experimentation, at least, should be strongly recommended. 

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17 hours ago, yogi2014L said:

Derick and Jill definitely were virgins when they married.

I am happy I wasn't, and I am happy my husband wasn't. I feel like that could lead to always wondering if the grass is greener on the other side, truly. I also think that it helps you figure out where sex lands on your priority list. Sowing my wild oats definitely helped me prioritize the more critical qualities I was looking for in a partner. Our sex life is great, but I would MUCH rather be highly compatible in other areas like parenting, family relationships, work life balance ect vs lacking in those areas. I really do feel bad for these fundies who marry with hardly knowing their partner just to find out that they suck at everything and always wondering if there's more out there. Probably leads to more infidelity I'd imagine too. 

 

Mr Jyn and I were both virgins when we met, though not when we married. I think, for me, it would have been a good thing if I'd, maybe, had a prior relationship with someone where it just wasn't going to work out for whatever reason, because then I'd feel less "committed" to marrying Mr Jyn. I mean, it's not been a completely bad decision - we have three really great kids, and have had an interesting life moving around with the Navy, which I honestly can't imagine foregoing, and are financially set really well for retirement. But I could have been a much happier person , I think, with someone else. Then again, how do I know? As difficult as he can be, there's also every chance I might have married someone I was totally in love with only to have him end up leaving me and having to struggle along as a single mom. One never knows. 

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5 hours ago, Jynnan tonnix said:

It seems to me that if the chemistry is there, virgins can quite happily learn from each other. I do think it's important to know to at least some extent that you are sexually compatible before actually signing on the dotted line. But while you can certainly know how attracted you are to someone without real physical contact, and it's definitely possible to go on to have a fulfilling sex life even if both parties enter into the marriage having done nothing more intimate than holding hands, I think a certain amount of experimentation, at least, should be strongly recommended. 

Sure, but going into marriage blinded by lust is also dangerous. My first time was with my high school boyfriend, who was also a virgin. Nice guy, but once we crossed that bridge together it turned out we had basically nothing else in common. To be honest, that’s how I see Ben and Jessa now. Who knows about Derick and Jill, though — Derick is a weirdo and Jill comes from a cult, I honestly have no idea how they relate behind closed doors.

5 hours ago, Jynnan tonnix said:

Mr Jyn and I were both virgins when we met, though not when we married. I think, for me, it would have been a good thing if I'd, maybe, had a prior relationship with someone where it just wasn't going to work out for whatever reason, because then I'd feel less "committed" to marrying Mr Jyn. I mean, it's not been a completely bad decision - we have three really great kids, and have had an interesting life moving around with the Navy, which I honestly can't imagine foregoing, and are financially set really well for retirement. But I could have been a much happier person , I think, with someone else. Then again, how do I know? As difficult as he can be, there's also every chance I might have married someone I was totally in love with only to have him end up leaving me and having to struggle along as a single mom. One never knows. 

This is really sad, @Jynnan tonnix. You’re alive now and have worth now — as they say, don’t let the bastards grind you down.

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1 minute ago, xwordfanatik said:

Hopefully spent it at their house, just the four of them.  Being on JB's shit list is a blessing in disguise.

I think Jill said they were going to be with Derick's family.

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Just now, GeeGolly said:

I think Jill said they were going to be with Derick's family.

Less people, anyway, than any of the Duggars' houses.  I suppose they had to please Miss Cathy.  

 

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1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

I think Jill said they were going to be with Derick's family.

I don’t see that as a huge deal since they seem to see her fairly regularly. (Not that it’s a great idea, but. . .). Much better than Smuggars heading off to TEXAS to get together with the whole extended family. 

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1 hour ago, irisheyes said:

I don’t see that as a huge deal since they seem to see her fairly regularly. (Not that it’s a great idea, but. . .). Much better than Smuggars heading off to TEXAS to get together with the whole extended family. 

Its beyond what I would do, because Izzy goes to school and Jill has been with her siblings unmasked. So I wouldn't hang with Derick's parents unmasked, even more so around Miss Cathy if she's receiving any maintenance treatment after her near death cancer illness. But I suppose that's Cathy's choice. Also, the pregnant SIL's choice.

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18 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

and Jill has been with her siblings unmasked.

In the past two weeks? Hopefully not? (I can't think of any specific photo evidence, though of course that doesn't prove anything...) At the very least, though, I would think the various other things that have been going on in the Duggar-verse that Jill isn't a part of/ wasn't invited to (the Claritin engagement party, the faux-Thanksgiving/ harvest celebration that was likely for filming purposes, Joy's vacation, Evangeline's birth) left her family too busy to sneak a quick visit with her, too.

That said, the rest of your concerns are still true, but presumably the Dillards did what they felt comfortable doing, just like the majority of the rest of the country... (insert sad face). Though it does seem likely that they've been seeing one another fairly regularly, anyway. I'm sure the Dillard celebration was much smaller than the Keller reunion or Duggar multi-family event, though I guess that's setting the bar pretty low!

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Did anyone else pick up on this on the Q & A?

Jill was talking about how they weren't as closely monitored on skype or texts/phone calls as they portrayed on the show. She said there were times JB & Michelle weren't even home. Jill continued by saying her parents were busy & that Justin was in a courtship at the same time so they had to oversee him as well. Hmm, very interesting.  Jill used the word courtship,  said it matter of factly like it wasn't a big deal & everyone knew & then just continued talking.  This was supposed to be 7 years ago so Justin was around 12.  Do we know anything about this early courtship with Justin, was it one of those early relationship things like Josh had?  

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29 minutes ago, Barb23 said:

Justin was in a courtship at the same time so they had to oversee him as well.

I didn't watch the Q & A but do you think maybe she meant Jessa?

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3 hours ago, Barb23 said:

Did anyone else pick up on this on the Q & A?

Jill was talking about how they weren't as closely monitored on skype or texts/phone calls as they portrayed on the show. She said there were times JB & Michelle weren't even home. Jill continued by saying her parents were busy & that Justin was in a courtship at the same time so they had to oversee him as well...This was supposed to be 7 years ago so Justin was around 12.  Do we know anything about this early courtship with Justin, was it one of those early relationship things like Josh had?  

 

3 hours ago, BigBingerBro said:

I didn't watch the Q & A but do you think maybe she meant Jessa?

Or Justin was experiencing his first crush and his parents were obsessively hovering to make sure it didn't become another Josh problem.  After the Josh molestation's, what 12 year old boy in their family would have enough freedom to spend alone time with a girl?

Jill probably meant to say Jessa, as suggested above.  It was obvious even on the show how controlling JB&M were with Jessa and Ben.

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