Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

[Zella]

Just now, GeeGolly said:

And what mother in their right mind would let their kid within a mile of that home with Josh there?

For real. I feel bad for the daughter because I didn't get the impression she was in favor of the arrangement, but I could also see most if not all of her students bailing on her once their parents find out why their piano lessons have to be moved, and I can't blame the parents for that. 

[Lady Whistleup]

Mrs. Reber is Asian? Josh won't like her. I'll never forget what assfaces the Duggars were in Japan.

[Oldernowiser]

She’s a woman who has been given authority over every aspect of his life right now.

He’s going to hate any woman in that position. Or any man, for that matter. 

[theironwoman]

8 hours ago, Ijustwantsomechips said:

3. I have no sympathy for the Reaver (Reavers?) either.  Maybe they are trying to be good Christians, but it sounds like some arrogance at play to me.  You alone think you’re capable of managing and monitoring someone capable of these atrocities huh?  Because you’re so much closer to God? Good luck with that! People may follow certain religious beliefs with good intentions in the beginning, but extremist beliefs, in any religion, are about nothing more than wanting to feel special and superior. You want to believe you are right, and closer to God, and therefore better, than everyone else with differing beliefs.  I don’t know this Reaver fellow, but that’s the vibe I’m getting. The fact that he’d put his “Christian duty” and fealty to Jim Bob above his wife and daughter’s comfort and safety tells me all I need to know about him.

I realize I'm biased to hell and back but I honestly think the kindest, most Christian, thing to do would be to keep Josh in jail. Granted the Rebers/Revears/??? can't guarantee that on their own but they didn't have to help facilitate his release either. It would be safer for all involved and would give everyone a chance to detox, for lack of a better word, from Josh.

26 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

I’m still wondering what he’s been up to the last two years!

This is my biggest question also. Working? (lol) Working out? (lol) Some combination of watching tv/mindless internet surfing/eating/making everyone's life miserable? It one thing to do that combo in your own home, an entirely different thing to do it as a guest, in a situation like Josh's, where at least one member of the household probably has, at the bare minimum, barely disguised contempt/discomfort for your presence.

Edited May 6, 2021 by theironwoman

[Tuxcat]

1 minute ago, Oldernowiser said:

She’s a woman who has been given authority over every aspect of his life right now.

He’s going to hate any woman in that position. Or any man, for that matter. 

I doubt she will exercise much authority at all. She will cook for him and try to minister by being the dutiful hostess. And he will attempt to beguile her every step of the way. He will instantly believe that he is smarter in every aspect. I'm pretty angry that he is so comfortable right now. 

[Churchhoney]

11 minutes ago, Lady Whistleup said:

Mrs. Reber is Asian? Josh won't like her. I'll never forget what assfaces the Duggars were in Japan.

I like Mr. Headship Patriarch Reber's pushing his wife to do this even less (if that's possible) now that I see she's Asian. 

He's not just a sexist horror. He's a sexist racist horror. Although I'm sure he thinks he's not racist a bit. I would bet otherwise. Jerk. 

And I note that the Duggars (who've lived in this same area for a bazillion years) only met these really "close friends" that they're now making use of  in 2015. Yet another small fact that speaks volumes about JB and M. And, of course, there's the fact that close friend Mrs. Reber seemed pretty darned in the dark about a lot of Things Duggar and Things Josh Duggar in her testimony. 

Has  everybody who's known the Duggars longer dumped them over the years? Or did they decide to take advantage of these people just because they haven't actually known them very long? 

Edited May 6, 2021 by Churchhoney

[crazy8s]

15 minutes ago, Zella said:

But the students are minors, so no, they're not allowed in the house while Josh is there. 

From the mrs reber recap on reddit - a few students who were minors come to the house for lessons

lessons could be relocated.

and in questions from the judge - the daughter had been spoken to about relocating lessons

[Nysha]

32 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

I agree...just not having internet access until July will make him BSC. He doesn’t have a job, I doubt very much he has any hobby that isn’t illegal or a probation violation, and he’s in some stranger’s house 24/7. 
He’s going to have to sit on their sofa, eat junk food and watch basic cable until his trial.
Actually, he might be much happier.

I'm pretty sure that Mrs. Reber said they didn't have cable or TV. There is not going to be a damn thing for him to do in their home except eat, sleep, and read his bible. He may actually want Anna & the kids to visit just to break up the monotony.

[JoanArc]

Just now, Nysha said:

I'm pretty sure that Mrs. Reber said they didn't have cable or TV. There is not going to be a damn thing for him to do in their home except eat, sleep, and read his bible. He may actually want Anna & the kids to visit just to break up the monotony.

Gun, one bullet, bottle of whiskey.

[Gigi43]

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  1 MINUTE AGO, NYSHA SAID:

I'm pretty sure that Mrs. Reber said they didn't have cable or TV. There is not going to be a damn thing for him to do in their home except eat, sleep, and read his bible. He may actually want Anna & the kids to visit just to break up the monotony.

 

 

She did say they don't have cable but also said they don't have "internet-internet", which means they do have web access. In the end Josh could be using the second phone for some Hulu. Hey, Judge Judy is on without cable. He could take notes.

Edited May 6, 2021 by Gigi43

[Tuxcat]

If he's allowed to go to "work" and church, are the Rebers responsible for accompanying him? Or are they only responsible for him when he's in their home?

[doodlebug]

On 11/14/2020 at 7:52 PM, ginger90 said:

 

Some screenshots from her stories:

Just bringing this forward from December for those who want to see some of the windowless warehouse where Anna and the kids live.

[BitterApple]

3 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

If he's allowed to go to "work" and church, are the Rebers responsible for accompanying him? Or are they only responsible for him when he's in their home?

I was wondering about that as well. Do they need to have eyeballs on Josh 24/7? If so, how are they supposed to work out errands, grocery shopping, doctor's appointments, etc.?

[Zella]

When was the last time Josh was in Jesus jail? 

[emmawoodhouse]

2 minutes ago, Zella said:

When was the last time Josh was in Jesus jail? 

After Joshgate 2. He went at the end of August 2015.

[cereality]

10 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

I was wondering about that as well. Do they need to have eyeballs on Josh 24/7? If so, how are they supposed to work out errands, grocery shopping, doctor's appointments, etc.?

Generally no. The house arrest is for him not them. They are allowed to come and go. He is not to leave the house but if he were to leave while they were out, that’s between him and his Probation Officer. They also are to make sure they’re not leaving him with things he’s not allowed — ie internet. If their only internet is phones, they could take those. For ppl with WiFi you can turn it off and make sure he doesn’t have the password. If they have something like dial in, I assume you disable that though IDK how. This is normally how it works. I haven’t seen a court order here (does anyone know if one was issued and available to see) so the order may say something different.

Edited May 7, 2021 by cereality

[Boston]

1 hour ago, Heathen said:

There are plenty of people on this forum who don't believe in any gods, and we are not dirtbags. 

I worded that the wrong way and am so sorry if I offended you.  mea culpa.. My anger got over the nice in me

3 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

Huh

I wrote this wrong.  sorry about that.

1 hour ago, Heathen said:

There are plenty of people on this forum who don't believe in any gods, and we are not dirtbags. 

Again, i am very sorry.. i wrote this wrong.. 

[Boston]

I'm sorry, I'm sorry.. my last post was written wrong and i know people took it that way.  Dirtbags are dirtbags.  has nothing to to with God or no-God (p.s.  I am on the fence).  Please forgive me

[WinnieWinkle]

1 minute ago, Boston said:

I'm sorry, I'm sorry.. my last post was written wrong and i know people took it that way.  Dirtbags are dirtbags.  has nothing to to with God or no-God (p.s.  I am on the fence).  Please forgive me

I knew what you meant.  The problem is this thread is moving fast and sometimes things get misunderstood!

[JustRosie]

53 minutes ago, Lady Whistleup said:

Mrs. Reber is Asian? Josh won't like her. I'll never forget what assfaces the Duggars were in Japan.

I missed this. What happened in Japan?

[BradandJanet]

Judging by the Rebers' house, this family can at least afford to feed Josh. If I were Maria, I wouldn't take responsibility for cooking his meals though. 

Somebody better find Josh some physical labor. He should be digging ditches or painting houses to work off the boredom. 

A better choice for Josh might be the Pearl family. They can put him on a blanket and hit him when he steps off. JB and Michelle seem to think this technique turns out good people. Or maybe not. 

[JustRosie]

25 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

If he's allowed to go to "work" and church, are the Rebers responsible for accompanying him? Or are they only responsible for him when he's in their home?

I’ve been wondering about this. His handlers  sleep, shower, go to the bathroom etc. Who is supervising Josh at these times? Definitely doesn’t sound like they can have accountability for him 24/7. 

[Tuxcat]

12 minutes ago, cereality said:

Generally no. The house arrest is for him not them. They are allowed to come and go. He is not to leave the house but if he were to leave while they were out, that’s between him and his Probation Officer. They also are to make sure they’re not leaving him with things he’s not allowed — ie internet. If their only internet is phones, they could take those. For ppl with WiFi you can turn it off and make sure he doesn’t have the password. If they have something like dial in, I assume you disable that though IDK how. This is normally how it works. I haven’t seen a court order here (does anyone know if one was issued and available to see) so the order may say something different.

I have not see the official court order. Only what is on reddit so who knows if that is correct.  So he is free to leave the house for the purposes "work, education, church..." - unsupervised I assume? Is that still considered house arrest?

Reddit lists these:

 Cannot be returned to his guest house or TTH

- Court is not interested in second chances. Don't fuck up with the Reavers. (paragraphsed)

- Tomorrow Josh will be released to the Reavers with close GPS monitoring. Restricted to this residence except for working, education, church, medical services, meeting with lawyers, court ordered obligation, or other activities approved IN ADVANCE by the probation office.

- May not possess or view pornography or erotica of any kind

- Court does not think it has the technology to limit Josh's use. Josh cannot have computers, phones, smart TVs, gaming systems, etc. He may not ask for the passwords from the Reavers or her daughter.

- Josh can get a jitterbug phone to contact counsel as long as it's approved by a probation officer.

- Josh cannot leave the Western District of Arkansas.

- Josh can have unlimited contact with his children as long as their mother is present. Josh cannot have contact with any other minor children including siblings, family members, piano students, etc.

- Not a requirement but a recommendation: Plan activities based on who he might run into. Avoid birthday parties, etc.

- No substances, drugs or alcohol

- Cannot actually or constructively possess a firearm

- Must surrender passport and not obtain a new passport

- May not violate any state or local law

- Must provide a DNA sample

- Must appear in court as requested

- Tomorrow must sign an appearance bond

[Jeanne222]

I’m still confused about bail.  Is there any bail?  We talked about that a lot before Josh was released!  TIA

[Minivanessa]

I don't think the court requires the Rebers to literally be in Josh's company 24/7 or monitor his movements around their house. They aren't jailers. They are responsible for obeying the court's conditions of release insofar as they are obliged, i.e., no allowing Josh internet access, removing the firearms from the house, no minors in the house, etc. They are also responsible for reporting any violations by Josh that they learn about or see, immediately to the federal probation office. 

Also, I think I saw on reddit or somewhere, that Mrs. Reber described the guest room that Josh will have, as sort of a "mother in law" apartment, with its own door to the outside. It may be a bedroom-bathroom suite. 

I wouldn't be surprised if JB comes up with some "work" for Josh to do to get him out of the house at least on weekdays. He could accompany JB on his deal-making rounds or pick up a hammer and work on one of the Duggar rental houses if they still have those. (I believe JB has a portfolio of commercial properties he gets lease income from. Maybe JB no longer dabbles in fix/flip houses but rather gives those to his sons.)

I think Josh signed himself out on his own recognizance, also didn't see a bail amount stated. The conditions imposed by the court come with costs that Josh/JB will have to pay including the ankle monitor. 

Edited May 7, 2021 by Jeeves

[cereality]

Yes normally he could go to work, Church, drs and lawyer meetings alone. It wouldn’t be the Rebers obligation to accompany him. Theory is his Probation Officer approved it so it’s ok for him to be there — ie PO believes there’s no computer he can use at church or his work or drs office. Now what if he stops at FedEx Office on the way and looks at something on those public computers? That’s between him and the Probation Officer.

If ever there was a time for a construction job in the hot Arkansas summer sun, this is it. Construction notoriously is very loose on background checks (esp for white English speakers) and doesn’t care what you did as long as you won’t murder their other workers and are willing to sweat it out to lay tile or pour driveway concrete. He’d have to be on a job site at 7 am (that makes this unlikely for the fam that sleeps until noon), would come home exhausted at 3 pm, Mrs R could feed him dinner at 6 pm and he’d crash by 8 out of exhaustion. No time to wonder about CP or whatever.

[NoThyme]

1 hour ago, mittsigirl said:

Sorry to offend you. It's deleted now, I will not post anything here again.

Why? you should post! 

[Tuxcat]

2 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

I wouldn't be surprised of JB comes up with some "work" for Josh to do to get him out of the house at least on weekdays. He could accompany JB on his deal-making rounds or pick up a hammer and work on one of the Duggar rental houses if they still have those. (I believe JB has a portfolio of commercial properties he gets lease income from. Maybe JB no longer dabbles in fix/flip houses but rather gives those to his sons.)

 

 

2 minutes ago, cereality said:

If ever there was a time for a construction job in the hot Arkansas summer sun, this is it. Construction notoriously is very loose on background checks (esp for white English speakers) and doesn’t care what you did as long as you won’t murder their other workers and are willing to sweat it out to lay tile or pour driveway concrete. He’d have to be on a job site at 7 am

 

Ok - So in theory the probation officer has to approve the work  -  so it has to be an actual job versus just hanging out at rental properties with dad. I could absolutely see JB creating some sort of "work" so that Josh could get out each day though.  Will be interesting to see what the probation officer allows in terms of "work."

 

[Lady Whistleup]

30 minutes ago, Namaste said:

I missed this. What happened in Japan?

I can't remember but I remember JB complaining that no one spoke English and the howler monkeys were really loud in a restuarant.

[GeeGolly]

6 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

Ok - So in theory the probation officer has to approve the work  -  so it has to be an actual job versus just hanging out at rental properties with dad. I could absolutely see JB creating some sort of "work" so that Josh could get out each day though.  Will be interesting to see what the probation officer allows in terms of "work."

 

In one of my previous positions I spoke with POs often. Most don't mess around. Many of them really care and are supportive, but they've heard everything and aren't easily fooled. The Duggars have definitely met their match.

[cereality]

26 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

 

 

Ok - So in theory the probation officer has to approve the work  -  so it has to be an actual job versus just hanging out at rental properties with dad. I could absolutely see JB creating some sort of "work" so that Josh could get out each day though.  Will be interesting to see what the probation officer allows in terms of "work."

 

I think the latitude on work tends to be wide because they want the defendant doing productive things not just plotting how to score more CP. I think working at dads rental properties is fine but JB will be required to be there or have another trusted person there who won’t provide him a cell phone etc. Last thing they need is JB letting him sit alone in a rental house all day only to find later oops the wifi was working in that house and oh oops Anna got him a phone. The brothers would be “reliable” ppl to have working with him as they wouldn’t provide him phone access bc they prob hate him and know he’ll throw them under the bus any chance he gets. Yet it’s likely they’re too pissed to agree to be his handlers 5 days/wk at work.

Edited May 7, 2021 by cereality

[JoanArc]

 It’s still safe to Snark, right? 

[JustRosie]

10 minutes ago, Lady Whistleup said:

I can't remember but I remember JB complaining that no one spoke English and the howler monkeys were really loud in a restuarant.

Thank you! 😀

[cereality]

8 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

In one of my previous positions I spoke with POs often. Most don't mess around. Many of them really care and are supportive, but they've heard everything and aren't easily fooled. The Duggars have definitely met their match.

Yes. I think POs generally want to see their defendants do well both before and after prison. But they’ve seen it all and aren’t going to be fooled by dumb Duggar excuses like oh I didn’t know there was wifi at that rental house when I picked up Jed’s phone, I just wanted to see the weather blah blah. Or oh no this isn’t my phone, Anna didn’t get me this, Jason carries 2 phones blah blah.

[Gigi43]

Yeah, I think this is going to have to be Work and not "work." With paystubs, provable hours and a boss who isn't named Duggar. Also, would his employment be limited because of the type of crime? Would he be allowed to work at Target during the day where there are children in and out all day long? I guess that will be sorted out. He has very few skills since I doubt he did anything at FRC (yeah I've seen the reddit post that said no.) Chain stores, at least where I am are hiring but with so many small businesses going out of business, those jobs are filling up. I know AK had been open more than the North East where I am, but, still, there are a lot of people all over out of work and looking. Who are you going to hire, a newly out of work guy because of COVID or Josh?  

[cereality]

2 minutes ago, Gigi43 said:

Yeah, I think this is going to have to be Work and not "work." With paystubs, provable hours and a boss who isn't named Duggar. Also, would his employment be limited because of the type of crime? Would he be allowed to work at Target during the day where there are children in and out all day long? I guess that will be sorted out. He has very few skills since I doubt he did anything at FRC (yeah I've seen the reddit post that said no.) Chain stores, at least where I am are hiring but with so many small businesses going out of business, those jobs are filling up. I know AK had been open more than the North East where I am, but, still, there are a lot of people all over out of work and looking. Who are you going to hire, a newly out of work guy because of COVID or Josh?  

I mean I don’t see him getting a job at Target or Sbux or even a family owned restaurant bc all do background checks. They see CP case pending — they move on and hire one of the 10,000 other ppl out of work without such issues. Any work will have to come thru JB or some “sweet friends” from church like the Rebers who don’t care/don’t believe what he’s done, they are loyal to his godly family. But yeah if one of those jobs happens to be say at a candy store or school, the PO nixes that option as there are kids around - it runs afoul of the court order which doesn’t allow him near minors. Daddy or one of the sweet friends need to come up with a construction or car related job. What about Joe’s FIL - isn’t he a pastor that does some kind of car/auto body work? I mean he may believe in helping a sinner repent while making sure he has zero access to his babies or his grandkids (Joe’s kids).

[Tabbygirl521]

6 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said:

This article has more information on the Rebers. Looks like their son is friends with Jed, Jer, and Austin through those lame Freedomists. 

I want to know if/why Mrs Reber can be alone with Josh. I thought it was forbidden for an unrelated/unmarried man and woman to be alone together. Is hubby going to present at all times? I thought he had a job.

geesh. She can’t be alone with Joe Blow from down the street but she can be alone with this subhuman POS?

[MargeGunderson]

Wherever Josh “works” he won’t be able to have access to a computer or internet access. That certainly limits his options. Maybe he could dig another pond, since that punishment didn’t take the first time.

[realityfan26]

The best thing for Mrs Rebar would be to assign Josh some major tasks around the house. I’d have him mowing, weeding, digging new garden beds. And for sure he should cook his own damn food - after paying for it himself!

[GeeGolly]

POs in my area, depending on the crime, don't tend to trust family members a whole lot, much beyond a place to live. They'd likely approve a dishwasher in an uncle's restaurant, detailing cars in a cousin's shop, or sweeping up in a good friend's nail salon, but working for mommy or daddy is usually a no-go. And they don't like jobs 'without walls', like construction work, lawn services or running cars to and from auctions and repair shops, especially if they're on an ankle bracelet. 

POs don't want to set them up to fail and they also don't want to make their own work harder.

[Jeanne222]

51 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

I don't think the court requires the Rebers to literally be in Josh's company 24/7 or monitor his movements around their house. They aren't jailers. They are responsible for obeying the court's conditions of release insofar as they are obliged, i.e., no allowing Josh internet access, removing the firearms from the house, no minors in the house, etc. They are also responsible for reporting any violations by Josh that they learn about or see, immediately to the federal probation office. 

Also, I think I saw on reddit or somewhere, that Mrs. Reber described the guest room that Josh will have, as sort of a "mother in law" apartment, with its own door to the outside. It may be a bedroom-bathroom suite. 

I wouldn't be surprised if JB comes up with some "work" for Josh to do to get him out of the house at least on weekdays. He could accompany JB on his deal-making rounds or pick up a hammer and work on one of the Duggar rental houses if they still have those. (I believe JB has a portfolio of commercial properties he gets lease income from. Maybe JB no longer dabbles in fix/flip houses but rather gives those to his sons.)

I think Josh signed himself out on his own recognizance, also didn't see a bail amount stated. The conditions imposed by the court come with costs that Josh/JB will have to pay including the ankle monitor. 

Jeeves sorry your post is here...I hit the wrong button!

 

Lol Josh Dugger working?  The same Josh that waltzed out of jail under the wing of a million dollar defense attorney into a waiting chauffeur driven limousine...that Josh Dugger?

Idol hands will surely be this devil's workshop!

[JustRosie]

7 minutes ago, realityfan26 said:

The best thing for Mrs Rebar would be to assign Josh some major tasks around the house. I’d have him mowing, weeding, digging new garden beds. And for sure he should cook his own damn food - after paying for it himself!

She should have him dig a pond. And shave his head. 

[xtwheeler]

On 5/3/2021 at 11:37 AM, 3 is enough said:

I thought that was a possibility too.  I could still see him doing it if he is convicted and has nothing but time to think about how this could be happening to him, Josh Duggar.  I doubt he would ever take responsibility for his actions, so blaming his parents would be the obvious solution. Josh only cares about Josh.  But I don’t know if he could get access to a ghostwriter in prison or if any publisher would touch him.

 

On 5/3/2021 at 11:46 AM, Zella said:

I imagine a publisher wouldn't touch him now. Six-ish years ago when the first revelations were made, if he had played his cards right, it might have worked, but I think the short time between the reveal that he had molested his sisters and the reveal Ashley Madison scandal would have evaporated any claims he had to being reformed. He had a pretty small window, I think, in which it would have conceivably been possible. 

Arkansas has a "Son of Sam" law that prohibits criminals from benefitting from their crimes, including income from selling their life stories, a tell-all about the crimes, etc. So if Josh were able to string a few sentences together, he will never be able to make a dime on it.

On 5/3/2021 at 1:10 PM, hathorlive said:

In my experience, CP is CP.  It's illegal in both state and federal law.  However, what usuallyc gets a case taken federally is either scale and scope ( a LOT of images) or something that is interstate in nature.  

I'm sorry if this has all been covered, but if not:

Often what brings CP under federal jurisdiction is the use of a computer in procuring or sharing it. Just like conducting nefarious business on the phone, committing a crime using a computer is by nature across state lines. This includes texting, social media, essentially anything to do with the computer.

On 5/3/2021 at 2:05 PM, Tikichick said:

IDK about feds specifically, but my local experience here is that prosecutors will not make deals on anything regarding sexually abusing children.   It's so beyond the pale of civilized society that it's unquestionably recognized as being impossible to make deals if you want to survive politically.   I have no idea if the political aspect is equally acute in the federal arena or not.

I imagine that Josh being the tiniest fish in the tiniest pond makes his only value the ability to implicate others. I doubt he knows anything of substance, and once he was busted on the dark net, anyone in that network will have been arrested or at least identified already. Long story short, he has nothing of value the feds want, and prosecuting him to the max is quite beneficial as an example.

The only thing he could dish on is his parents' shady financial stuff, but if he wants any access to that upon leaving prison, he'd keep his mouth shut. However, Josh is not known for making overly-thought-out decisions

[Tuxcat]

For those that want the full recap. This article goes from the release today with lots of pics through the "rehab" stint in Little Rock 2015 (with details), followed by a refresher on his first "rehab" where he had to shave his head and stay mute.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9551305/Josh-Duggar-freed-bail-child-porn-charges-heads-home-family-friend.html

[Zella]

3 minutes ago, xtwheeler said:

 

Arkansas has a "Son of Sam" law that prohibits criminals from benefitting from their crimes, including income from selling their life stories, a tell-all about the crimes, etc. So if Josh were able to string a few sentences together, he will never be able to make a dime on it.

I'm sorry if this has all been covered, but if not:

Often what brings CP under federal jurisdiction is the use of a computer in procuring or sharing it. Just like conducting nefarious business on the phone, committing a crime using a computer is by nature across state lines. This includes texting, social media, essentially anything to do with the computer.

I imagine that Josh being the tiniest fish in the tiniest pond makes his only value the ability to implicate others. I doubt he knows anything of substance, and once he was busted on the dark net, anyone in that network will have been arrested or at least identified already. Long story short, he has nothing of value the feds want, and prosecuting him to the max is quite beneficial as an example.

The only thing he could dish on is his parents' shady financial stuff, but if he wants any access to that upon leaving prison, he'd keep his mouth shut. However, Josh is not known for making overly-thought-out decisions

I was talking specifically about a tell-all about his childhood in 2015. At that point, he had been charged with no crime. I'm not sure how a Son of Sam law would prevent him from writing that.  

[GeeGolly]

8 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Jeeves sorry your post is here...I hit the wrong button!

 

Lol Josh Dugger working?  The same Josh that waltzed out of jail under the wing of a million dollar defense attorney into a waiting chauffeur driven limousine...that Josh Dugger?

Idol hands will surely be this devil's workshop!

I'm not sure that was a chauffeured limo. It might have been his lawyer's SUV.

[Churchhoney]

12 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

Potential trigger: not graphic/specific but focused on the general topic which is very difficult

  Reveal spoiler

Apparently some of what he viewed is banned even in the pedophile circles. I think for Josh, he is all about domination, cruelty, violence of the vulnerable. It's less about him being sexually "attracted and oriented" towards children. Just my opinion anyway.

 

Agree. Just something about his general attitudes and demeanor, plus the depiction of the molestations, has always suggested that to me, too, for some reason, 

[3girlsforus]

1 minute ago, GeeGolly said:

I'm not sure that was a chauffeured limo. It might have been his lawyer's SUV.

That’s what I think too. A big SUV with dark windows is exactly what a defense attorney who picks up clients from jail would want especially if any of them attract media attention. 

[Future Cat Lady]

2 hours ago, Clawdel said:

Ladies and gentlemen, here is the gullible couple who will be minding The Sex Pest. 

There is also a blurb about Covenant Eyes: 

 

I thought they were a much older couple. 

[JustRosie]

7 minutes ago, 3girlsforus said:

That’s what I think too. A big SUV with dark windows is exactly what a defense attorney who picks up clients from jail would want especially if any of them attract media attention. 

I think he loved the attention. Felt like a superstar. His smug attitude and demeanour throughout this has been appalling.