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Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

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hoosier80
hoosier80

New show title: 10 to 20 Years and Counting 

MargeGunderson
MargeGunderson

Someone on Reddit just described Josh’s face as a glistening glazed ham. I am considering divorcing my husband and marrying that poster. 

doodlebug
doodlebug

Well, for many of us, it's the difference between 'imperfect' and 'non-PC' and being a criminal.  Josh is a child molester and his parents actively intervened in his situation to avoid him being punis

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Joe Jitsu913

Joe Jitsu913

I'm with you. Anna lived a very sheltered life growing up. She probably thinks it's a bad thing for a woman to experience pleasure & have orgasms. Joshley does seem like the selfish pig who could care less about her needs. Does she even know what an orgasm is? I'm sure her "girl" talk with her mom was along the same lines as MEchelle's - basically sex is all about serving your husband's needs anytime & making blessings in one position.

Anna and her family lived in some rinkydink trailer. Surely Anna and her siblings heard Ma and Pa Keller making sweet fellowship. I don't think she's as sheltered when it comes to sex. She also has older siblings so I'm sure she's chatted with them about what to expect on your wedding night.

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Fuzzysox

Fuzzysox

Anna and her family lived in some rinkydink trailer. Surely Anna and her siblings heard Ma and Pa Keller making sweet fellowship. I don't think she's as sheltered when it comes to sex. She also has older siblings so I'm sure she's chatted with them about what to expect on your wedding night.

Damn you pass the brain bleach. ewww

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Barb23

Barb23

I've already commented that I could never picture Jill in a slinky Victoria Secrets type of nightie. She's more of the long sleeved white cotton granny gown type of gal. Maybe even wearing the Little House cap. I definitely can picture Jessa in a slinky nightie with makeup & hair in place. I can see Anna wearing the slinky nightie but maybe feeling a little guilty because in her mind, this isn't what a Mom should wear. Just my opinion & something to laugh at -- I really could care less about their bedtime attire. They probably wear T Shirts & shorts/pants like the rest of us.

I don't think she's as sheltered when it comes to sex. She also has older siblings so I'm sure she's chatted with them about what to expect on your wedding night.

And going from the first kiss to doing the nasty in 12 hours time still makes my head spin. Throw in them listening to Dr. Wheat's CD on the way to their honeymoon really blows my mind. (Was probably producer driven in part for the show but still...) You can add these to the list of Why Joshley is the way he is.
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Darknight

Darknight

I believe all kinds of sex are ok in their world. But no need to pity Anna and all her children. She is the one who wanted them. Josh always said he'd be fine with 2 or 3. Anna is the one who never shut up about babies. Remember how he ignored her for so long while she was yapping about having a #4, and how displeased he was when it was announces? She just refused to get a clue.

So Josh needs to pull out or wear a condom

The women may be sheltered before marriage, but I think anything goes after the ring is on her finger. I refer you again to The Marriage Bed website/forum.

I don't think some kind of libido-moderating drug is a bad idea for men with sex drives that override their common sense.

What's the marriage bed?
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Micks Picks

Micks Picks

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I can see a couple of other things going on here.  Josh could have gotten snipped.  He may not like pain but the alternative is worse.  Then I keep remembering the stunning comment Michelle made to Jessa that she should be readily available all the time and after all, it doesn't take long.  In Josh's world, if the hooker allegations are true, it takes a long time.  If Anna is tired from the housework, childcare, schooling of the chldren, and trying to make a DC kind of life for Josh, I doubt she really has the energy for the long sex sessions and sex play, possibly including her being roughed up to some degree.  I can't picture me being delighted with that.  Which brings up the question of why, nevertheless, she is baby happy and wants about 8 of them.  There is a sickness here.

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GeeGolly

GeeGolly

Just to give you a little preview -

 

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CofCinci

CofCinci

With the Duggars and co, as long as a hetero married husband and wife are 'trusting The Lord with the size of their family' I think anything is permissible. So swing from the chandeliers, just don't try to prevent pregnancy.

Well, only swing from the chandeliers if that is what your husband desires. If he has no interest in that, don't you dare ever bring it up to him!
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Defrauder

Defrauder

Anna you married someone who was lusting after his 5 year old sister when he was a teenager.  You have two daughters and your husband told you that you take care of the 'top end' (nursing) and he'll take care of the bottom end (middle of the night diaper changing so you can get your sleep).  Wake up Anna, you're not being forgiving you're being stupid. 

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RazzleberryPie

RazzleberryPie

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Wow. That was…comprehensive.

Wow. It was. I can honestly say my heathern non-fundie mind had never heard of about half of those things before that site.  To each their own as long as they're consenting, but y'all some freaks up in Fundieville. If Jana has seen things like that website, and thinks all of this is normal, regular, typical behavior endorsed by like-minded believers, no wonder she's avoided marriage. Hard to believe that someone like Michelle, who couldn't comprehend that feet or shoes could be considered sexy/attractive could fathom some of the categories on that page.

 

ETA: Just to clarify - when I said some of those things weren't 'normal', I didn't necessarily mean they were immoral, sinful, shameful, wrong, etc. Consenting adults can consent to whatever without my approval or permission, of course. What I did mean by 'normal' is typical, run of the mill, mainstream, etc. If someone who is not allowed to be alone with a man or express any affection prior to marriage, like Jana, kissing or regular missionary sex could be very overwhelming, let alone more adventurous things or fetishes. 

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Marigold

Marigold

I was raised Fund. Baptist and was a Fund Baptist as a married woman. i gotta say, sex was also talked about in a positive way. Like, it's a good thing, it's fun. Husbands should please the wife. The wife should please the husband. Most/all things were allowed between a husband and wife. Dressing nicely for bed was always encouraged. Good sex was a priority.

I have a very open attitude about sex with my husband. I never knew anything different.

I might have a long list of things about Fund Baptists that I disagree with but sex is not one of them. At least not the churches that I attended.

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queenanne

queenanne

I think to some extent, clearly there's an age gap in the sexual frankness and permissiveness department.  For example, I can see Grandma Duggar being and lecturing sexual conservatism to her DIL, because whether or not someone who came of age in the 50s swung from the chandelier, you most emphatically wouldn't have spent any time telling anyone else you swung from the chandelier.  You also would have genteelly averted your eyes and pretended that such sites never existed, simply because sex was considered a private matter that wasn't discussed publicly.

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Churchhoney

Churchhoney

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Are most religions all up in folk's sex lives? 

 

My theory is that insecure, control-freak men founded and run most religions. So...yeah.

Sounds like the fundies are having way more fun than we thought.

 

Well, they are if the men involved are actually listening to the women and the women are telling them the truth. Given what we see of a lot of these hangin-around-tv couples, though, I kind of doubt that that's happening for most.

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BitterApple

BitterApple

Josh is out of Jesus Jail soon, right? I don't understand how the show will go on with such a big elephant in the room. Even if Josh isn't featured, the entire viewing audience knows his pudgy mug is lurking around off camera. I still can't believe Anna is determined to make a go of her dumpster fire of a marriage. I have a feeling Boob would be more than happy to send Josh off on a one-way ticket to Siberia and it's Michelle who wants him back in the fold.

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BitterApple

BitterApple

If Jill is back in town, I wonder where Josh plans to live. The guest "house" shed?

I can see Anna being pissed if Jill gets the pool house. She's got four kids and lives in the girls dorm, while Jill has one kid and gets a 4,000 sq. ft. McMansion on a couple of acres. I can't wait until the Duggars drop the nicey-nice facade and the claws start coming out.

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Missy Vixen

Missy Vixen

I can see Anna being pissed if Jill gets the pool house. She's got four kids and lives in the girls dorm, while Jill has one kid and gets a 4,000 sq. ft. McMansion on a couple of acres. I can't wait until the Duggars drop the nicey-nice facade and the claws start coming out.

I think the claws have already come out. And I think there is not much hope of being able to contain what's really happening in that household (namely the TTH) much longer; the tabloids will have a field day.

 

Jim Boob's "empire" depends on keeping Joshley Madison under his thumb 24 hours a day. Anna will be in the girls' dorm indefinitely; her will's broken. She's not leaving.

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Marigold

Marigold

I think the claws have already come out. And I think there is not much hope of being able to contain what's really happening in that household (namely the TTH) much longer; the tabloids will have a field day.

 

Jim Boob's "empire" depends on keeping Joshley Madison under his thumb 24 hours a day. Anna will be in the girls' dorm indefinitely; her will's broken. She's not leaving.

Agree!

Jim Bob will do whatever he has to, to get Perv Josh under control. Anna's brain is toast so she is easy to control.

There is a lotta money at stake. Jim Bob will glue Josh's pants on if he has to...give him a chaperone 24/7. Anything. I bet that Jim Bob is cooking up all sorts of retaliation....

Celia Rubenstein

Celia Rubenstein

The porno chick wants to drop her lawsuit but Josh is saying not so fast ....

 

http://www.tmz.com/2016/02/01/josh-duggar-porn-star-lawsuit/

 

Josh's lawyers say they'll only agree if Dillon drops her case forever and retracts her allegations on her social media accounts. He also wants her to foot his legal bills.  

She's refusing Josh's offer, and adds in the docs he might think twice before digging his heels in, because of his admission he's been treated for sex addiction.

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queenanne

queenanne

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OK, that's a point for LAWYR, because if reported in truth, that would seem to indicate Dillon's lawyers now don't think she can win a "he said, she said", regardless of the sex addiction, and is just hoping that waving the latter around in the air threateningly scares Josh.

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Arwen Evenstar

Arwen Evenstar

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WOT!!!!!!!!

I can't believe that slimy eel of a Smuggar wriggled off the hook again!

That said, no matter how slimy someone is, they don't deserve to be falsely accused of something.

Maybe Daddy Boob paid her off to make her go away and slapped her with a gag order? That would be true to form that he shouldn't have to be held accountable because he's a Speshul Snowflake.

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Marigold

Marigold

A settlement would have had Ms Dillon withdraw her claim with prejudice. Josh would be insane to allow her to flake on this current lawsuit and let her make more claims. He wants/needs/deserves to have a definitive resolution.

so what do you think happened?

I'm not a legal person...I'm depending on you guys to explain what really happened.

did josh pay her off finally?

truthtalk2014

truthtalk2014

My thought is that Danica saw this as way to get her name in the spotlight.  I am in no way protecting Joshie.  She got a magazine cover and everyone knows her name now.  More money for her- no matter how you slice it.  

 

Honestly, it sounds like they were hoping for an easy payout from Josh and JB.  When Josh's attorney asked for the proof in the pudding, they were obviously unwilling to provide. AND, I think Josh must have had some proof that he was not at the scene of the crime at the time she said.  If she had proof, she would not be asking to drop this.  I think she is finally realizing that she can be liable for his legal fees.  

 

If this woman has lied (and it is sounding more and more like that every day) then I hope it comes back to bite her on the ass  - not because of Josh- but because of Anna and the M's.   This will be around forever. Josh is a big enough pig without any false stories in the media.

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Sew Sumi

Sew Sumi

Discovery gas begun, and Danica's request may come from not supplying enough information that her lawyer could actually subpoena (ie. Josh's computers (work and home) in addition to phone/text/social media posts. Maybe Josh friended anyone who requested (hell, he friended me). but Danica was a FB friend. I bet some PMs were exchanged and that Anna was shut out of all of his SM accounts, unlike her sister Priscilla.

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