Jessa, Ben and Their Brood: Making a (Diaper) Mountain out of a Mold House

[Marigold]

I can't link it but did anyone see Jessa's FB post about Spurgie still taking a bottle?  Kinda bitchy! 

[HoboClayton]

Because it's the Duggar's. That's it. 

[ChiCricket]

36 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

No, he won't even be two until November.  It's still not a good idea to let a little one walk around holding a bottle with his teeth.

One of  my friend's daughter was extremely tall for her age. I had to keep reminding myself how young she really was. Sometimes I'd be expecting her to be acting ''more like her age", when in reality she was.  That's why I asked his age, because he looks like a 3 year old to me, and I thought the bottle was inappropriate. But I can cut the poor kid some slack if he's only 2 :) IMO they need to stop it soon though, for his teeth's sake.

[ariel]

40 minutes ago, SMama said:

How was it determined the stains were from Dapper Spurgeon? Honestly curious.

If it were my child, I wouldn't put him in a previously stained chair & take pictures of him.  I'd find a clean chair to do so.  Jess is all about appearances for young Damien.  I don't think she would make that mistake. 

Edited September 9, 2017 by ariel

[GeeGolly]

Spurgie does look dapper, but has a Duggar ever picked up an iron?

[Jynnan tonnix]

31 minutes ago, ChiCricket said:

One of  my friend's daughter was extremely tall for her age. I had to keep reminding myself how young she really was. Sometimes I'd be expecting her to be acting ''more like her age", when in reality she was.  That's why I asked his age, because he looks like a 3 year old to me, and I thought the bottle was inappropriate. But I can cut the poor kid some slack if he's only 2 :) IMO they need to stop it soon though, for his teeth's sake.

We had the hardest time trying to wean my younger son off his pacifier...and it was definitely starting to affect his teeth, but as soon as we managed to get him to give it up, his teeth were back in line quite soon afterwards. I don't think you really get issues with the teeth unless they are still on bottles/pacifiers past their toddler years.

[Arwen Evenstar]

17 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Spurgie does look dapper, but has a Duggar ever picked up an iron?

Unless flatirons or curling irons count, nope.

[madpsych78]

1 hour ago, SMama said:

How was it determined the stains were from Dapper Spurgeon? Honestly curious.

And couldn't that just be water?

[ChiCricket]

1 hour ago, Jynnan tonnix said:

We had the hardest time trying to wean my younger son off his pacifier...and it was definitely starting to affect his teeth, but as soon as we managed to get him to give it up, his teeth were back in line quite soon afterwards. I don't think you really get issues with the teeth unless they are still on bottles/pacifiers past their toddler years.

That's not the only issue with a bottle after a certain age. I was a (clueless) 17 year old first time mother, and let my daughter go to bed with a bottle of milk. She had multiple cavities when she was only about 2 years old. The pediatric dentist said it was common in bottle fed babies because of the sugar in milk sitting on their teeth all night long. 

I felt like the WORST mother, especially because she was so young they had to put her under to fix those cavities :(

  So, fast forward to my next daughter, 2 years later (when I was a clueless 19 year old.)

I exclusively breast fed her,not wanting to go through that again, and she still had some problems with her teeth.  I would nurse her until she fell asleep , and as I later found out, breast milk has the same cavity inducing properties when left to fester all night long.

 Kids, 3,  4, and 5 (all 2 years apart) had no cavities at all, because I never nursed them to sleep, and if I did let them have a bottle in bed, it was only plain water. (The end)

sorry so long ;-)

Edited September 9, 2017 by ChiCricket

[Angeltoes]

Spurgie is adorable!  He should be a child model.

[Jynnan tonnix]

29 minutes ago, Angeltoes said:

Spurgie is adorable!  He should be a child model.

Don't give them ideas! Although I would hazard a guess that it has already occurred to Jessa, and she is waiting for an agent to come knocking on the door.

[DangerousMinds]

34 minutes ago, Angeltoes said:

Spurgie is adorable!  He should be a child model.

Or Damien in the next reboot of "The Omen."

[Baby Button Eyes]

Spurgeon is such a horrible name for a kid, it's almost better to nickname him Damien. And I hope he lives up to his doppelgänger, becomes the anti-Duggar and spreads the seeds of rebellion in a very sly way amongst all his Duggar family cousins so that the Duggar empire shall ultimately fail!

Edited September 9, 2017 by Baby Button Eyes

[Lunera]

Super bitchy and condescending. She should really learn how to take constructive criticism.

[lulu69]

Piss poor wedding when the best dressed/most styling person present is a 22 month old.

Edited September 10, 2017 by lulu69
Curse you autocorrect

[flyingdi]

7 minutes ago, Lunera said:

Super bitchy and condescending. She should really learn how to take constructive criticism.

You go Jessa!  Show that backbone!   No keeping sweet for this girl.  I'm sorry to state once again, I like Jessa.  They did not succeed in breaking that one's spirit!

[GeeGolly]

Really, if Jessa doesn't want people commenting on her parenting she should stop filming her kids for TV and make her social media private.

Edited September 10, 2017 by GeeGolly

[BitterApple]

1 hour ago, Lunera said:

Super bitchy and condescending. She should really learn how to take constructive criticism.

Ooooh, somebody isn't keeping sweet! Jessa is just now realizing the Internet is full of judgment? 

[ChiCricket]

3 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Spurgie does look dapper, but has a Duggar ever picked up an iron?

I have to admit here that I don't even still own an iron. Just call me a Duggar. 0_o

But I don't make the big bucks for a show, and I'm not in the public eye.

[Sew Sumi]

I put on a wrinkled tee shirt this morning. But then, I was only going to Starbucks, not a wedding. 

[Fostersmom]

2 hours ago, flyingdi said:

You go Jessa!  Show that backbone!   No keeping sweet for this girl.  I'm sorry to state once again, I like Jessa.  They did not succeed in breaking that one's spirit!

I personally loved her comment. She knows no matter what she posts, 1000 people are going to tell her how wrong she is to let Spurge do x, y, or z and how she needs to be doing 1, 2, and 3 instead. Much like Jinger, she can't win. If she does something not in the Duggar handbook, she's a liar or fake, and when she does something she's been taught to do or might actually believe in, well, that's wrong too. Poor Jinger has it worse. Now no matter what she does, it's because Jeremy is making all the decisions for her, just as controlling as her parents. Never mind the fact she looks happier than any Duggar kid ever has. So I'm on the go Jessa train right with you!

Edited September 10, 2017 by Fostersmom

[Jynnan tonnix]

It beats the heck out of passive-aggressive Bible verses as a response.

[EarlGreyTea]

3 hours ago, flyingdi said:

You go Jessa!  Show that backbone!   No keeping sweet for this girl.  I'm sorry to state once again, I like Jessa.  They did not succeed in breaking that one's spirit!

Seems directed at the wrong people. The internet is always full of randos who never have anything nice to say. That's a given. Who the hell cares what any of us thinks, frankly, because it's not our life. I'm not impressed at her keyboard bravery to a bunch of people she doesn't know and can easily block. If she directed this forcefulness to her stupid ass parents or backwards lifestyle, that's when I'd give her kudos. They gave her absolutely no life skills to succeed at anything besides having a lot of kids. Hell, even the Bateses give their daughters a trade before they leave the nest (see: Josie's cosmetology schooling).

If JB and Michelle succeeded at anything, it was at giving their kids an arrogant, us-versus-them martyr mentality that completely absolves them of blame and turns it on randos in the world who DIDN'T cut their kids off at the knees with their substandard education and patriarchal lifestyle.

Edited September 10, 2017 by EarlGreyTea

[Lunera]

I kinda  like Jessa's bitchiness and her former cut and dry self because it shows she not completely broken. Spurgeon's photo was posted on Jeremy's IG and Jessa must have been lurking and reading through his comments blocking everyone who dare say anything bad about her kid. Then she posted the photo on her account with her snarky comment, why not just ignore it? I got blocked by her because I followed a snark blog even though I never commented on her page. She's the one digging around for anyone posting nasty stuff about her and her family.

[Sew Sumi]

I have no dog in this fight since I've never had kids, but Jessa DOES admit to putting him down with a bottle of milk/kefir for naps and bedtime. Even I know from people who made the same mistake that could be costly at the dentist down the line in terms of toothe decay. And from what I understand, nursing is no better before bedtime or naps, since breast milk still contains the sugars that are at fault in tooth decay. We don't know how often she does this, but it seems often enough for her to comment on it in addition to the initial bottle comment. 

(No, I didn't read the comments on her feed, so maybe it was the tooth decay stuff that really pissed her off?)

eta: @Lunera I think we followed the same snark site, because all of a sudden she blocked me as well, and I'd never commented on her page. I learned about her the hard way when I DID comment on her page during Kissgate when she should have been fucking her husband's brains out 3 days after the wedding. 

Edited September 10, 2017 by Sew Sumi

[magpye29]

Say what you want about Jessa, she adores her kids, and they adore her right back.  Lots of people do the baby "puppet" thing, myself included, so I'm not going to dog on her for that.

[mimionthebeach]

4 hours ago, Lunera said:

Super bitchy and condescending. She should really learn how to take constructive criticism.

I don't blame her if she sounds a little bitchy. I have a pretty low tolerance for the sanctimommies, who you know took her up on her invitation, having already inspired the post. 

[ariel]

Jess, if you can't take the heat, stop posting pictures on social media.  No one is putting a gun to your bitchy little head to do so.

[cmr2014]

1 hour ago, mimionthebeach said:

I don't blame her if she sounds a little bitchy. I have a pretty low tolerance for the sanctimommies, who you know took her up on her invitation, having already inspired the post. 

I can't disagree with you on that -- I only have a dog and people stop me on the street to give me "advice" on how to care for her all the time.

That having been said, though, Jessa is 100% about telling other people what to do. Up until Spurgeon was born, her entire social media presence was all about telling other people how sinful they were and how they had to change to be more like her. Karma is a bitch, Jessa.

[peachybean]

2 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

eta: @Lunera I think we followed the same snark site, because all of a sudden she blocked me as well, and I'd never commented on her page. I learned about her the hard way when I DID comment on her page during Kissgate when she should have been fucking her husband's brains out 3 days after the wedding. 

Didn't Joe and Kendra get married today? So is the marathon after party at the TTH only for the Duggar girl weddings? If not and being bitchy on social media is how she's choosing to spend that time, then big FAIL.

I know she can't have wine or dance with her family. Good food isn't really an option either.  Maybe she could trying talking to that sister she keeps posting in her pictures. 

[Sew Sumi]

The wedding was Friday evening. Jessa went on the warpath earlier today (still Saturday here). 

[OpieTaylor]

Interesting that she wishes spurg was still breastfeeding - I know she loves Henry but it sounds like she wishes she could have spaced her kids out further. Bf'g spurg until 2 may have worked as birth control 

[Sew Sumi]

3 minutes ago, OpieTaylor said:

Interesting that she wishes spurg was still breastfeeding - I know she loves Henry but it sounds like she wishes she could have spaced her kids out further. Bf'g spurg until 2 may have worked as birth control 

She apparently has sour breastmilk when she gets knocked up, like her mother. She's on schedule for Henry to reject her milk and take to the bottle. 

[OpieTaylor]

20 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

She apparently has sour breastmilk when she gets knocked up, like her mother. She's on schedule for Henry to reject her milk and take to the bottle. 

Ahh, so you're thinking spurg was still bf'g when she got pregnant with Henry? 

[MunichNark]

Whoa girlie. Get off the media if you cant take it. Such a wee nasty bitch

[Sew Sumi]

2 hours ago, OpieTaylor said:

Ahh, so you're thinking spurg was still bf'g when she got pregnant with Henry? 

The narrative supports that theory. Six months....

[GeeGolly]

Jessa's trying to have it both ways. She's fine showing and sharing her parenting on the show where folks can't answer back. Then she puts her kids on social media where people can comment and she doesn't like it. I think Mommy Wars suck too, but the advice I'd give her is not to display and use her kids as an income. While I don't think its fair to bring up Josh on her posts that don't include him, I think she's fair game for comments made on a picture she chooses to post on a public forum. 

She did an entire segment discussing her kids while making Spurgeon breakfast on Counting On, for money. She filmed the births on her children and aired them on TV, for money. Her social media is public to generate interest - for money.

Her post was akin to Kim K saying not to make negative remarks about her ass.

[BetyBee]

I'm fine with Jessa's comment and I'm glad to see others are too.  Her children are fed, clothed and loved, so I don't really care about the details.  Later, when they are all indoctrinated into Gothardism is when my hackles go up!

[DangerousMinds]

9 hours ago, magpye29 said:

Say what you want about Jessa, she adores her kids, and they adore her right back.  Lots of people do the baby "puppet" thing, myself included, so I'm not going to dog on her for that.

She's good at creating the image she wants on SM. Who knows in real life?

8 hours ago, ariel said:

Jess, if you can't take the heat, stop posting pictures on social media.  No one is putting a gun to your bitchy little head to do so.

Exactly!

[Churchhoney]

10 hours ago, EarlGreyTea said:

Seems directed at the wrong people. The internet is always full of randos who never have anything nice to say. That's a given. Who the hell cares what any of us thinks, frankly, because it's not our life. I'm not impressed at her keyboard bravery to a bunch of people she doesn't know and can easily block. If she directed this forcefulness to her stupid ass parents or backwards lifestyle, that's when I'd give her kudos. They gave her absolutely no life skills to succeed at anything besides having a lot of kids. Hell, even the Bateses give their daughters a trade before they leave the nest (see: Josie's cosmetology schooling).

If JB and Michelle succeeded at anything, it was at giving their kids an arrogant, us-versus-them martyr mentality that completely absolves them of blame and turns it on randos in the world who DIDN'T cut their kids off at the knees with their substandard education and patriarchal lifestyle.

Bears repeating. 

[Marigold]

There's a simple solution, Jessa. Don't post a public picture of Spurgie with a bottle in his mouth.  Then no one will comment.   

I know people will comment on every detail but we all know the hot topics to avoid. Why ask for trouble? Post a different picture of Spurgie. 

For such a public family, the have very poor common sense when it comes to social media. Jill with Izzy licking a fan, Izzy crying, hitting a cat with a sled, Izzy with a tortilla on his head (which is funny), Josie near a gun, babies crawling up the stairs etc. 

 If you know that you're gonna get ugly comments, then at least really look at your picture and determine if it's cute or just a lightening rod for controversy. 

The Bates seem to have mastered that skill much better. 

[doodlebug]

53 minutes ago, Marigold said:

There's a simple solution, Jessa. Don't post a public picture of Spurgie with a bottle in his mouth.  Then no one will comment.   

I cannot imagine coming to Jessa's defense, but I think Jeremy took that picture and posted it originally.  Since he isn't a mom, doesn't even have kids; I presume he isn't aware of the large numbers of people who want to parent other people's children online.

Jessa, however, has been posting online for years, always to as large an audience as possible to keep the brand front and center.  She should realize by now that there is going to be criticism of anything and everything, particularly due to all the controversy surrounding her family.  She ought to have a thicker skin by now; but her penchant to snark back and to block posters (or even lurkers who visit sites she doesn't like) shows her to be a judgmental, oversensitive whiner; sort of like the rest of her family who apparently still have a hard time believing that the public at large doesn't agree with their handling of the molestation situation back in the day.

A little introspection would do her a world of good, but I don't think Jessa (or any of the kids, really), is capable of that.

[flyingdi]

12 hours ago, EarlGreyTea said:

Seems directed at the wrong people. The internet is always full of randos who never have anything nice to say. That's a given. Who the hell cares what any of us thinks, frankly, because it's not our life. I'm not impressed at her keyboard bravery to a bunch of people she doesn't know and can easily block. If she directed this forcefulness to her stupid ass parents or backwards lifestyle, that's when I'd give her kudos. They gave her absolutely no life skills to succeed at anything besides having a lot of kids. Hell, even the Bateses give their daughters a trade before they leave the nest (see: Josie's cosmetology schooling).

If JB and Michelle succeeded at anything, it was at giving their kids an arrogant, us-versus-them martyr mentality that completely absolves them of blame and turns it on randos in the world who DIDN'T cut their kids off at the knees with their substandard education and patriarchal lifestyle.

I think what we all forget is that they won't direct any of their scorn at their parents.  They don't think their parents did anything wrong.

[JoanArc]

No sympathy for Jessa involuntarily making her kids public figures, same as was done to her.

Edited September 10, 2017 by JoanArc

[BitterApple]

I can't stand Jessa, so I'm finding it hilarious that complete strangers have gotten under her skin.

[lascuba]

As a non-parent I've always found the online backseat mommying tedious and annoying, so I'm totally fine with Jessa's response. Yes, yes, stay off the internet if you can't take it, but "taking it" doesn't mean not responding. That's like saying respecting freedom of speech means not criticizing what people say. Sure, Spurgeon still drinks milk out of a bottle...I know few toddlers that age who are completely bottle free, at least IRL. 

[peachybean]

10 hours ago, Sew Sumi said:

The wedding was Friday evening. Jessa went on the warpath earlier today (still Saturday here). 

Gotcha. Thanks for the correction. 

My general point stands. Taking the time to ban followers based on who they follow is excessive and ridiculous. When you are so public, you will be criticized and mocked. I bet being mocked bothers Jessa more. 

Edited September 10, 2017 by peachybean
Typos

[lascuba]

3 hours ago, Marigold said:

There's a simple solution, Jessa. Don't post a public picture of Spurgie with a bottle in his mouth.  Then no one will comment.   

I know people will comment on every detail but we all know the hot topics to avoid. Why ask for trouble? Post a different picture of Spurgie. 

For such a public family, the have very poor common sense when it comes to social media. Jill with Izzy licking a fan, Izzy crying, hitting a cat with a sled, Izzy with a tortilla on his head (which is funny), Josie near a gun, babies crawling up the stairs etc. 

 If you know that you're gonna get ugly comments, then at least really look at your picture and determine if it's cute or just a lightening rod for controversy. 

The Bates seem to have mastered that skill much better. 

Not that long ago, Alyssa posted a picture of her with her kids in the car and followed it up with something like, "Before anyone starts criticizing, the car was parked so that's why they aren't in carseats" in a really bitchy tone. I don't follow her so I don't know what happened to provoke that comment, but no one's immune to the mommy wars.

The fact that a toddler with a bottle is viewed as a lightening rod for controversy is why I'm Team Jessa on this one. 

[Spencer Hastings]

I won't even post pictures of my nieces and nephews in the car because I don't want know-it-all mommy warriors coming at me from behind the keyboard trying to "help." I'm not a mom but I don't know what makes some of these women so much holier than thou because they pushed a kid out of their crotch.  I roll my eyes at all of the comments about how other people raise their children. I came out of my social media lurking to "like" Jessa's photo.  She's spot on. Nobody is perfect and that bottle isn't going to do any damage that can't be fixed later on.  They can afford it. "Bitch" on Jessa, "bitch" on. 

EDIT: I don't really think she's being a bitch.  We don't want them to be meek but then she gets mocked in the comments when she speaks up.  Speaking up for how you are raising YOUR child is not being a bitch. 

Edited September 10, 2017 by Spencer Hastings

[Arwen Evenstar]

14 minutes ago, Spencer Hastings said:

I'm not a mom but I don't know what makes some of these women so much holier than thou because they pushed a kid out of their crotch.

THIS! And whoever called out "sanctomommies".