S07.E10: Choose Your Battles

[blubld43]

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There just needs to be someone, somewhere, who can explain to Leah and Corey that the cavalry isn't coming.

Uncle Juice, your post moved me to tears.  I nominate you to go talk to them.  

[truelovekiss]

8 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Seriously, we could make a drinking game out of how many times Dr. Tsao says "power wheelchair."

I just want to know about this disturbing video. I'm so traumatized by last night's Game of Thrones, I don't know if I can take much more foolery.

The disturbing video is going to reveal that this is all Bran's fault.

 

On 5/22/2016 at 2:39 AM, ChocolateAddict said:

"In 2006, Dr. Tsao was named Nationwide Children’s Hospital Physician of the Year. He is named among the “Best Doctors in America.”

 

But nooooo the parents clearly know better than one of the best doctors in America.  They should literally be kissing his feet for treating Ali but instead they ignore his phenomenal knowledge which they take as suggestions rather than cold, hard facts (e.g. "Ali needs to be in her power wheelchair" which becomes "sometimes we might drag it out and use it").  God knows that when I see my neurologist, I take notes left, right and centre because she has a decade of experience in neurology and I know how to apply bandaids.  Should be the same thing with Dr Tsao who could probably discuss MD in his sleep in comparison to both Corey and Leah who certainly haven't even touched a medical journal.  

This, exactly. Leah has the uneducated, narcissistic but widely held belief that "I'm the mom, I birthed her, so I know what's best for her." No, you don't. You don't understand her disorder, you don't listen to the doctor who speaks slowly in monosyllabic words to communicate the direness of the situation to you.  Do they have any concept of how fortunate they are to have to resources to take Ali to one of the best specialists in America? If they were average, broke teen parents from WV and they were making these mistakes, I would pity them for not being able to afford a good specialist. This is willful ignorance.

[MissMel]

If they were two broke teens with no tv show, there's a very real possibility that Medicaid would cover more expenses, specialist, care coordinators, therapy, etc. than most private insurance. Also, I'm sure Ali's condition qualifies her for care at a children's hospital regardless of her parents ability to pay. Think St. Jude's/Shriner type facilities. I have always thought she qualifies now, even with her parents current income and insurance. My child is a Shriner child and when they say "at no cost to you" they mean it. Including travel options and many other expense options, including family counseling. 

Also, they could be extremely religious, or ignorant, or delusional, or stupid, or stubborn, or just extremely positive and hopeful. Maybe they think allowing Ali to make decisions on her activities according to how she feels is the best option. Or simply because they want her happy and enjoy every moment of life. Maybe the doctors said she could do this now but not after a particular thing happens- Until then use the chair as often as possible, the more the better before it becomes permanent. I just don't know so I try to remember the only thing I know for a fact is that mtv only shows me what mtv wants to show me and tabloids only publish what they choose to publish. 

YMMV and I enjoy reading everyone's take on the situation based on a television show we all choose to watch. I've read a lot different opinions that I would have never thought of on my own. 

Edited May 24, 2016 by MissMel

[truelovekiss]

Randy needs to seriously chill the fuck out with his anti-Adam comments. Yeah, Adam sucks. We know, Randy. But advocating to not tell Adam about the father daughter dance at all, and saying Cole SHOULD be the one to take her is wrong. Adam is her father and even though he fucked up the first like 3 years, and he still is a complete douche, I  have to give it to him that he has tried to be part of her life more (it could very well be for the cameras). Besides, trying to overtly exclude and estrange him looks bad on Chelsea's end and it would confirm Adam's accusations that Chelsea is trying to replace him.

[truelovekiss]

Victoria truly is Mama Dawn's daughter. Why bring up Ali's diet with Dr. Tsao, when Leah can just ask the 6 year old, and work in how her dad sucks.

[CofCinci]

10 minutes ago, truelovekiss said:

Randy needs to seriously chill the fuck out with his anti-Adam comments. Yeah, Adam sucks. We know, Randy. But advocating to not tell Adam about the father daughter dance at all, and saying Cole SHOULD be the one to take her is wrong. Adam is her father and even though he fucked up the first like 3 years, and he still is a complete douche, I  have to give it to him that he has tried to be part of her life more (it could very well be for the cameras). Besides, trying to overtly exclude and estrange him looks bad on Chelsea's end and it would confirm Adam's accusations that Chelsea is trying to replace him.

I developed some empathy for Adam this week.  He's an asshat but they aren't giving him the opportunity to improve as a father. 

[truelovekiss]

I love Jenelle and her listing her symptoms, like an efficient medical professional. But a few days ago, she didn't understand that the nurses not giving her any meds she wanted due to her narcotic addiction was them doing their jobs.

[ClassyCourtHeels]

Leah. Your kid "eating" with you doesn't count if it luncheables, sugar packets, and icing. She probably doesn't eat with Cory because he feeds her green things called vegetables which are probably banned at your home unless you want to look like a good mother on instagram.  Is Miranda just supposed to put the baby down on the ground? This isn't The Sims. And not everyone just leaves their kids in the car like Leah. An older sibling saying the baby is getting more attention - just sounds like a horrible step mom to me.

Kail manages to suck the life and the happiness out of me just by being on my screen, I can't imagine how unpleasant she must be in real life. "I work 24 hour shifts here" I wonder if it's hard to see all the way up there on Kail's high horse. With her live in nanny,  Aka Javi's mom, while making a quarter of a mil a year for having my life filmed. Poor, poor Kail.

Janelle has obviously spent too much time on WebMD trying to rationalize her obvious side effects of drug use. And they can't give her legit meds because she's a druggie. Shouldn't she know that since she supposedly saving lives as a medical assistant? Barb trying not to laugh at her on the caaaaaaafone. 

Edited May 24, 2016 by ClassyCourtHeels

[Chicken Wing]

Some things Adam has to do on his own; it's not up to them to give him the opportunity. He doesn't need their permission, as far as I know, to call and ask about Aubree, but according to Chelsea he doesn't even do that. Just the same, I give Chelsea props for feeling that the right thing to do is to let Adam know about the dance. We know she feels the same way that Randy does, that Cole acts more like a father to Aubree and he probably should be the one to take her and forget about Adam, but Adam is her dad and he should have the "right of first refusal" if you will. So she let him know and put the ball in his court, and to the surprise of no one at all he fumbled the ball. But at least she tried. And Adam can't really complain about Chelsea and her family trying to exclude him from Aubree's life or trying to use Cole to replace him when he willfully ignores his opportunities to do the job himself.

And Kail sounds like a blast to be married to when you're away in the military. "Well, you'll sleep when you're dead." "Well, I work 24-hour shifts over here." Can't she even pretend to be sympathetic? Pretend you're in your communications class at school and you have to put on your fake happy face for a newscast.

I assume Jenelle's next self-diagnosis will involve alien probes in her brain.

Edited May 24, 2016 by Chicken Wing

[truelovekiss]

2 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

I developed some empathy for Adam this week.  He's an asshat but they aren't giving him the opportunity to improve as a father. 

So did I. And then he didn't show, and I'm sure he would blame it on Chelsea not telling him in time, or the awkwardness of Cole being there. (He still has time to grace us with his presence in this episode) Honestly, whenever Randy talks, Adam gets points. 

[Mkay]

At the very Least Adam could have called and asked to speak to Aubree and tell her why he couldn't make it. Don't leave that little girl hanging.  It's cruel! I dread hearing his excuse. Even if it's because he had Paislee with him, he could call and tell Aubree that. "Hey Aubree, I have Paislee tonight and I'm not going to be able to make it." See!

 

Leah has my blood pressure sky high with her fake worry about what Miranda said to the one of the girlses. You drive/drove High Leah! Miranda not being able to carry the back pack at the moment is not the big deal you all are making it out to be. Yes, your daughter probably needs help but..........YOU DRIVE HIGH! You have been dying to get your hands on something to use against Cory and Miranda and now you have it. Tell your family to stop stirring up crap!

Edited May 24, 2016 by Mkay

[Chicken Wing]

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At the very Least Adam could have called and asked to speak to Aubree and tell her why he couldn't make it. Don't leave that little girl hanging.  It's cruel! I dread hearing his excuse. Even if it's because he had Paislee with him, he could call and tell Aubree that.

Right. It's one thing if he just couldn't make it because he was going to be busy that day or whatever (what the hell does he have to be busy about?), but if that's the case, text Chelsea back and let her know that you won't be able to make it, tell Aubree you're sorry and you'll talk to her later. But he didn't respond at all. He's making this too easy. I do feel sorry for Chelsea for having to put up with this exact scenario for the next dozen years, but she will indeed have to put up with it -- she'll have to give Adam the chance to be there, contact him to let him know what Aubree's going on, and then stand by when he never shows up. Sigh.

[truelovekiss]

Also why are the girlses at Chasity's house on one of Leah's few precious days with them?

Edited May 24, 2016 by truelovekiss

[Ffiferoo]

5 minutes ago, Mkay said:

Leah has my blood pressure sky high with her fake worry about what Miranda said to the one of the girlses. You drive/drove High Leah! Miranda not being able to carry the back pack at the moment is not the big deal you all are making it out to be. Yes, your daughter probably needs help but..........YOU DRIVE HIGH! You have been dying to get your hands on something to use against Cory and Miranda and now you have it. Tell your family to stop stirring up crap!

Chasity made it sound like Miranda was repeatedly refusing to help Ali and ignoring the girlses, when of course what Ali actually said on the video sounded like some typical frustrations that happen when there's a new baby in the house.  I know they already have a little sister, but they're older now and are more cognizant of the disparity in attention.  I'm sure it's genuinely upsetting for Ali, but that would have been a good time for an adult to let her know that new babies can't do as much as she can, and that she could ask Gracie for help, or leave her backpack until a grownup can help.  Leah's family egging this on is just making it worse.

[dabronx]

3 minutes ago, Chicken Wing said:

 And Adam can't really complain about Chelsea and her family trying to exclude him from Aubree's life or trying to use Cole to replace him when he willfully ignores his opportunities to do the job himself.

So much of this. I don't give Adam credit for anything he's done to get his shit together. To me all of his court maneuvers are all about trying to get out of child support. He's someone who engages with Aubree only when he wants with no regard to what she might need. I'm not going to give someone credit for being the fun uncle from out of state when what he's suppose to be is the father. When fun uncle can't make an event it's a bummer but you understand why. When dad routinely lets you down it's crushing. Chelsea and her family need to not make so many comments on camera or even in private if they are in front of Aubree but I can completely understand why Randy feels no desire to create opportunities for Adam. I imagine it would be very hard in their position not to think that they need to protect Aubree far more than they need to give Adam any more chances to let her down. And really in the long run it's a gamble to say which way she'd react to which style as an adult. Would she be more mad at her mom if she took Randy's approach of not making more effort or will she resent Chelsea more for continuously engaging Adam and setting her up for constant disappointment. I know Chelsea does it in hopes he'll step up - but after awhile if you know he's just as likely to disappoint as to show up - where do you draw the line? 

[Chicken Wing]

Seriously, what is up with Victoria in this episode? Didn't she used to be the one who supported Leah but also didn't hesitate to set her straight and make her understand things from a logical perspective? Now she's all, "You need to get in Corey's fat face and put the blame on him! You need to tell that bitch Miranda to stop being a bitch!" Shut up.

[Christina]

2 minutes ago, Ffiferoo said:

Chasity made it sound like Miranda was repeatedly refusing to help Ali and ignoring the girlses, when of course what Ali actually said on the video sounded like some typical frustrations that happen when there's a new baby in the house.  I know they already have a little sister, but they're older now and are more cognizant of the disparity in attention.  I'm sure it's genuinely upsetting for Ali, but that would have been a good time for an adult to let her know that new babies can't do as much as she can, and that she could ask Gracie for help, or leave her backpack until a grownup can help.  Leah's family egging this on is just making it worse.

I'm quoting this response even though it will likely be just above mine because I agree 100% and was trying to find a way to word it. I had a string of bad words in response to Leah's family causing trouble and encouraging Leah's negative behavior. 

[Mkay]

Leah! Miss I would "never, ever, ever". Nothing will be worse than you driving high with your kids in the car. NOTHING. You will not convince me that this was the most ultimate sin that Miranda has ever committed and that it trumps everything wrong Leah has ever done. 

Edited May 24, 2016 by Mkay

[TexasGal]

Jenelle set a new record for making me feel stabby towards her - 3 minutes in!!  Congrats Jenelle!  And then, every frigging segment she was in just added to that.

Yeah, Ali's video sounded like a little bit of new baby jealousy and not much more than that.

[HoosierJen]

Maybe I'm just missing something, but I don't see how that video is even a small issue (let alone the major problem that they were acting like). A new baby needs attention, and every older sibling probably resents it. Big deal. Kids get jealous of younger siblings. And the stupid backpack - there have been a hundred times that my kids have wanted me to carry stuff for them but I couldn't because I had my hands full with groceries or whatever.....big deal. Leave the backpack in the car and I'll come get it later. Why are they acting like the kid was being abused or something?

These people annoy me.

[Spacecow]

I reaaalllyyyy need to stop watching Leah's segments because her bullshit tonight made my blood boil. That "disturbing video" was bullshit through and through, nothing raised the slightest red flag whatsoever. Ali was probably feeling jealous, and Leah's kids have always been dramatic as hell. PLUS she had Chasity egging her on. I'm sure the twins felt jealous about Addie..... Oh wait, of course they didn't, because Leah is super mom and has never done anything as evil as "lazy bitch Miranda" /s

Also what the fuck was with Victoria tonight? At times she's been the closest thing to a sane voice of reason in Leah's hellish clan of horrors, but now it seems like she's going out of her way to start shit and get Leah all riled up. Girlfriend needs to take several seats. 

Edited May 24, 2016 by Spacecow

[truelovekiss]

I don't want to be a blind Miranda defender, because I'm not. There are plenty of things she and Corey have done that I disagree with. But I think this "disturbing video" is just going to be manipulated as fodder by Team Messer.  Six year old kids are known to exaggerate, so I don't know if backpackgate was as bad as all that. I  do think Ali's backpack should be carried for her if there are books in there. 

However, I don't want this to come out the wrong way but I think Ali is very spoiled and favored. I think in an effort to compensate for her unfair lot in life, they tend to give in to Ali more than they should (Ali gets the toy, Ali gets first pick of lollipop flavors, etc). So I think she probably really resents Remi, because she's the new baby and a preemie. 

[Anastasia]

Wow. Leah's sister is a horrible individual. She has no business calling Miranda a "lazy bitch" when Miranda does everything for the twins. That made me so angry on MIranda's behalf. Leah's family has no business stirring trouble between Leah, Corey and MIranda. Leah is clearly a drug addicted skank, and she is lucky that Corey doesn't try to get her parental rights terminated after all her neglect and endangerment of the girls. It is normal for older siblings to feel out of sorts about a new baby getting more attention--they are blowing that way out of proportion. That whole Messer clan seems so unbelievably trashy. I feel so bad for Corey and Miranda for having to deal with any of them at all.

[Mkay]

Remember when Leah called Ali a liar when Ali was telling Cory they are always late to school. Suddenly, the tables are turned and all of a sudden Ali speaks the truth!

[Ffiferoo]

And Leah going on on the aftershow crying about how that's her baby with physical challenges that limit her from carrying her backpack, when she *never* puts her in the wheelchair she needs to help preserve her muscles!!  Plus Ali never actually said she took the backpack in by herself, they just assumed it because it fits in with their narrative of mean old Miranda forcing poor Ali to do manual labor.  I feel for Ali's very real physical limitations, but I have no sympathy for Leah.

[ClassyCourtHeels]

18 minutes ago, HoosierJen said:

Maybe I'm just missing something, but I don't see how that video is even a small issue (let alone the major problem that they were acting like). A new baby needs attention, and every older sibling probably resents it. Big deal. Kids get jealous of younger siblings. And the stupid backpack - there have been a hundred times that my kids have wanted me to carry stuff for them but I couldn't because I had my hands full with groceries or whatever.....big deal. Leave the backpack in the car and I'll come get it later. Why are they acting like the kid was being abused or something?

These people annoy me.

Probably because they can't actualy have anything legit to hold against them. 

 

Like texting and driving. 

Driving while high.

Leaving a baby in the car.

Being lazy as shit and not feeding your kids before school. 

 

You know, actual shit the proves your a crap mother. And NOW she's all worried about her physical exertion. When she plays softball. And doesn't use her wheelchair? GTFO

Edited May 24, 2016 by ClassyCourtHeels

[FlowerofCarnage]

Jenelle, benzodiazapiene( sp) are addictive and that is why the doctor doesn't want to prescribe them to your addict ass! I am shocked she didn't come across that bit of info when she was copying all those symptoms from WebMD. 

 So I guess there no sane, reasonable people in Leah's family! 

Good lord, Javi is so paranoid about Jo when it's her school friends he needs to worry about.

[ClassyCourtHeels]

10 minutes ago, truelovekiss said:

I don't want to be a blind Miranda defender, because I'm not. There are plenty of things she and Corey have done that I disagree with. But I think this "disturbing video" is just going to be manipulated as fodder by Team Messer.  Six year old kids are known to exaggerate, so I don't know if backpackgate was as bad as all that. I  do think Ali's backpack should be carried for her if there are books in there. 

However, I don't want this to come out the wrong way but I think Ali is very spoiled and favored. I think in an effort to compensate for her unfair lot in life, they tend to give in to Ali more than they should (Ali gets the toy, Ali gets first pick of lollipop flavors, etc). So I think she probably really resents Remi, because she's the new baby and a preemie. 

She's in kindergarten, not high school. There aren't books in there. All she'll have in there are some folders and a pencil box. And maybe a library book once or twice a week. 

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[Mkay]

41 minutes ago, ClassyCourtHeels said:

Probably because they can't actualy have anything legit to hold against them. 

 

Like texting and driving. 

Driving while high.

Leaving a baby in the car.

Being lazy as shit and not feeding your kids before school. 

 

You know, actual shit the proves your a crap mother. And NOW she's all worried about her physical exertion. When she plays softball. And doesn't use her wheelchair? GTFO

THIS!! If we could somehow send this to Leah I would so do it! 

Edited May 24, 2016 by Mkay
So frustrated I can't spell. Ha

[ivgotspirit02]

Oh my, what an absolutely SHOCKING and DISTURBING video! An older sibling is jealous of a new baby! Somebody alert CPS! That was so ridiculous. Was it just me or did it seem like Leah was crying even before she got on the phone with Chasity?

I think they need to cut it out with the on camera talk about Adam (and I know Randy needs to take a few steps back from Twitter) but I think Randy is completely justified with his anger towards him. If someone called MY child a fat, stretch marked bitch, treated her like he did and then turned around and treated my grandchild just as badly I'd have a hard time mustering a kind word toward the guy. Chelsea did good by texting him (and in the after show she even mentioned he responded enthusiastically so it's not like he didn't receive the text) but from there the ball is entirely in his court. And of course he drops it by going to some weightlifting thing. He should have at least talked to Aubree about why he couldn't come. 

No real comment on Jenelle. Whatever. Same goes with Kail. It was pretty boring. 

[truelovekiss]

Good lord, Kail on this competition on the after show is a monster. 

[Lemons]

1 hour ago, truelovekiss said:

Randy needs to seriously chill the fuck out with his anti-Adam comments. Yeah, Adam sucks. We know, Randy. But advocating to not tell Adam about the father daughter dance at all, and saying Cole SHOULD be the one to take her is wrong. Adam is her father and even though he fucked up the first like 3 years, and he still is a complete douche, I  have to give it to him that he has tried to be part of her life more (it could very well be for the cameras). Besides, trying to overtly exclude and estrange him looks bad on Chelsea's end and it would confirm Adam's accusations that Chelsea is trying to replace him.

I don't think it's for the cameras, I think he's maturing.  If he was concerned about the cameras he wouldn't have said the horrible things he's said in the past.  Chelsea tells her father that the dance is a week away and she will text Adam the date, time etc and he never texted back.  Then on the after show, she says that she texted Adam and told him she was not sure of the date but he could look on a website.  She also claimed this time that he did text back.  She probably texted him the day before.  She is so full of shit. And for her to tell Aubrey that  her father might be then when he did not give any indication that he would make it was a horrible thing to do. 

And poor Miranda.  Did they really just show her at the end looking like she was glaring at Ally?  We better hear her side of the story.

[woodscommaelle]

19 minutes ago, ivgotspirit02 said:

Was it just me or did it seem like Leah was crying even before she got on the phone with Chasity?

Yes! I was waiting for Chasity to ask Leah what was wrong.

I thought I brought a laundry list of shit that's wrong with me to the doctor. Thank you, Jenelle. Your list outdid mine by about 71 items.

David said Jace didn't need to grow up to be a woman who started drama with people.  You mean like your girlfriend?

I found Cole really endearing tonight. Normally he bugs just as much as Chelsea. Not tonight. 

Edited May 24, 2016 by woodscommaelle

[Chicken Wing]

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And poor Miranda.  Did they really just show her at the end looking like she was glaring at Ally?

I actually busted out laughing at that. I'm surprised they didn't edit in devil horns on her head.

[toodywoody]

Jenelle, restless legs syndrome is not what she said. it's so hard to explain. it doesn't make it where you can't walk. first she says it's her thyroid and now it's restless legs. Ok Leah #2. Restless legs is exactly what it says. you legs are never at rest, constantly having to move them. Caffeine, smoking, stress and other factors contribute to your legs being restless. My whole family has them and it's never made any of us not be able to walk. walking helps. She is such a hypochondriac like Leah. Anxiety, Restless legs, thyroid, what's next hemorrhoids.

I love how she bitches about this that and the other and talks about herself and oh poor is me and never asks her mother or Jace how their day is and why go to New York?  And all those symptoms, shut the fuck up Jenelle, my gosh. And her half eyebrows and the little pencil line is making me laugh. So she goes to New York to try to doctor shop. Dumbass

The video sounds like maybe once Miranda said that. maybe she was carrying the baby with her purse and the diaper bag. And how much stuff is in a book bag for a six year old? When my daughter was that age, she didn't have crap in there. I love Ali but it sounds like she is making a mountain out of mole hill and Leah's family is just jumping on the bandwagon without asking Miranda about it. 

Edited May 24, 2016 by toodywoody

[truelovekiss]

24 minutes ago, Lemons said:

 

And poor Miranda.  Did they really just show her at the end looking like she was glaring at Ally?  We better hear her side of the story.

Adam said it best. This is teen mom. It's from the moms' perspectives, and they do their best to portray moms as the heroes (except Jenelle, because she's the token disaster). Anyone in opposition with the moms is usually portrayed poorly. I think to keep her after last season where MTV actually gave an honest portrayal of her, they had to mollify Leah and make her the clear protagonist of her story.

[chuckity]

It's interesting how Babs brings up North Carolina's new law on additctive prescriptions being the reason why Jenelle wasn't prescribed benzos ... and the very next scene shows that Jenelle made an appt w/ a new doc out-of-state.  

Once a drug-addicted-POS-poor-excuse-for-a-mother, always a drug-addicted-POS-poor-excuse-for-a-mother.

[truelovekiss]

30 minutes ago, Lemons said:

I don't think it's for the cameras, I think he's maturing.  If he was concerned about the cameras he wouldn't have said the horrible things he's said in the past.  Chelsea tells her father that the dance is a week away and she will text Adam the date, time etc and he never texted back.  Then on the after show, she says that she texted Adam and told him she was not sure of the date but he could look on a website.  She also claimed this time that he did text back.  She probably texted him the day before.  She is so full of shit. And for her to tell Aubrey that  her father might be then when he did not give any indication that he would make it was a horrible thing to do. 

I definitely wouldn't put it past Chelsea to text Adam the day of or day before, just to ho hum about what a loser Adam is and then squeal with joy as Cole swoops in to save the day. I like Chelsea. She's absolutely my favorite of the four. But Adam was completely right that she wants to make Cole the new daddy and just make it like Adam never existed. I totally agree with the general consensus that Adam sucks, I just don't think he sucks as much as Chelsea makes it seem like he does.

[FlowerofCarnage]

Jace needs male role model in life but it sure isn't Uncle No Contact Order. 

If Leah says "ma kids" one more time. I am shocked Corey hasn't ripped his beard out in frustration in having to deal with Leah. 

Vivi is adorable with her little hairstyle. 

[WhosThatGirl]

Chelsea:  Adam said some awful things to Chelsea back in the day, many times over and no matter what he does I can't forget he called his child a mistake. Just because he was a teeanger at the time does not get a pass from me. On these forums, we hold other cast members for a lot less. To me, I understand Randy's anger. However I do understand that he takes to twitter quite too much. I still think Adam is only around for camera time. Aubree was adorable.

Kail: At least she's being mature and nice with Vee. 

Leah: Listen. I get it, seeing your child in pain is awful and that video was heartbreaking. But could it be more than Ali feels ignored in general because of a new baby? And also all of those questions just felt so forced and like forcing Ali to answer a certain way. Also the last thing Ali said was how the baby gets all the attention. Poor Miranda. This makes me feel awful for her. I guess we are supposed to hate Miranda now.

Janelle: Just the worst. What else can I say?

[Mkay]

Did anyone catch on the after show Jenelle said she is on no birth control because of this mystery illness.  Please Lord baby Jesus help her. That is so scary. 

Edited May 24, 2016 by Mkay

[Evie]

What in the world was Victoria wearing in her first scene? Leah's segments were so filmed after the first couple episodes aired and she was belng called out. Victoria's done a 180 and Leah's making beds and checking homework. As for the video, Miranda should make sure Ali knows someone will get her backpack if she asks for help, but yeah, not the major deal Leah and her family made it out to be and could easily be cleared up.

Kail was really smiley in the beginning. She really is a robot when she's talking to Javi.

Jenelle's list of symptoms kept getting more and more ridiculous.

[SophiaPehawkins]

I love Barbara so much. When Jenelle was saying she had restless leg syndrome and then maybe MS. Barbara was all "you don't have MS. Maybe it's diabetes. Do you have diabetes?" I guess Janelle was looking for sympathy, but Barb was so over that shit. That entire scene had me cracking up.

[Maharincess]

2 hours ago, Mkay said:

At the very Least Adam could have called and asked to speak to Aubree and tell her why he couldn't make it. Don't leave that little girl hanging.  It's cruel! I dread hearing his excuse. Even if it's because he had Paislee with him, he could call and tell Aubree that. "Hey Aubree, I have Paislee tonight and I'm not going to be able to make it." See!

 

Leah has my blood pressure sky high with her fake worry about what Miranda said to the one of the girlses. You drive/drove High Leah! Miranda not being able to carry the back pack at the moment is not the big deal you all are making it out to be. Yes, your daughter probably needs help but..........YOU DRIVE HIGH! You have been dying to get your hands on something to use against Cory and Miranda and now you have it. Tell your family to stop stirring up crap!

They all make my blood pressure rise, that's why I'm proud to say that I didn't watch for the second week in a row.  I read here occasionally but I have no interest in watching anymore.  

I hate them all except for Chelsea and they all piss me the hell off.  It just didnt make sense to keep watching. 

You're all way more entertaining anyway. 

[Soobs]

One of Janelle's symptoms was "can't spell". I'm sure she's normally winning spelling competitions. So, was she trolling for prescriptions or what?

Victoria calling Miranda a lazy bitch was all kinds of appalling. Leah should have told her to take a seat.

If Aubrey doesn't end up chasing bad boy/ unattainable losers, it will be a miracle. Maybe the power of Cole's dorky love and Randy's too, will pull her through it but I doubt it.

[ReadMeLattice]

If there is anything at all in there, Ali should absolutely not be carrying a backpack and should always know help is available. I didn't see any of the spoiled/jealousy issues there from Ali; I saw a little girl who was frustrated with her disability and who probably wants to do things herself but can't. That would be insanely upsetting for any child, to feel perpetually limited. However, she should be in her wheelchair ALL the time and that's the real issue. And Leah is equally responsible for that, as are Corey and Miranda (more Corey than Miranda as Miranda is a stepmother and has not been present at all the doctor's appointments). It's hypocritical to freak out about that when you yourself do not follow doctor's orders. Leah is no more responsible for neglecting her daughter's disability than Corey is in terms of the wheelchair, but she cannot put that on Miranda when both she and the children's father have been repeatedly shown to flout and disobey doctor's orders. That's the real issue here. I'll never believe that the wheelchair issue is more Leah's fault than Corey's--she's never shown in it around Corey and Miranda either--but making Miranda out to be a villain is ridiculous. Miranda is the farthest thing from a villain. Both Corey and Leah should be kissing Miranda's feet for being a great stepmom, overlooking the cheating, treating their children like her own, and everything else she does.

Edited May 24, 2016 by Lm2162

[BitterApple]

1 hour ago, Soobs said:

If Aubrey doesn't end up chasing bad boy/ unattainable losers, it will be a miracle. Maybe the power of Cole's dorky love and Randy's too, will pull her through it but I doubt it.

Aubree's in for major daddy issues, I can already see it. In many ways, I think the constant rejection followed by brief moments of attention is more damaging than if Adam dropped out the picture completely. 

As far as the text, I don't doubt Chelsea waited til the last possible minute to let him know, but Adam also could've taken it upon himself to ask the date and time, along with letting her know whether he could make it or not. 

Regarding Ali and Backpack-gate, I agree with everyone else that she was feeling typical sibling jealousy and exaggerated the story. I think Ali is mostly upset that Cory's attention is divided and Miranda was just a convenient target. For all we know Miranda told her to leave the backpack on the ground and said she'd be back to get it. 

So now we know Jenelle was doctor shopping to get pills. Big shocker.

I thought Kail looked really pretty with her hair in a bun. Isaac cracked me up when he said he wanted to live outside. Baby Vivi is a cutie.

Edited May 24, 2016 by BitterApple

[NikSac]

1 hour ago, Soobs said:

One of Janelle's symptoms was "can't spell". I'm sure she's normally winning spelling competitions. So, was she trolling for prescriptions or what?

Victoria calling Miranda a lazy bitch was all kinds of appalling. Leah should have told her to take a seat.

If Aubrey doesn't end up chasing bad boy/ unattainable losers, it will be a miracle. Maybe the power of Cole's dorky love and Randy's too, will pull her through it but I doubt it.

I haven't even watched it yet but had to comment on this part. Jenelle was never winning spelling competitions except maybe the one her Mom gave her by spelling her name Jenelle instead of Janelle. Same with Aubree. Her name is just ripe for being miss-spelled.

I don't often wish for someone to get older but I really hope Randy will mature some. I think he loves Chelsea and Aubree but I really don't want to see him bringing beer and Botox to their parties as time goes on.

[NikSac]

1 hour ago, Lm2162 said:

If there is anything at all in there, Ali should absolutely not be carrying a backpack and should always know help is available. I didn't see any of the spoiled/jealousy issues there from Ali; I saw a little girl who was frustrated with her disability and who probably wants to do things herself but can't. That would be insanely upsetting for any child, to feel perpetually limited.

Yep. As someone who's lived it, it's frustrating as hell but it's reality. Pretending you're 'normal' doesn't work and everyone around you pretending you're 'normal' doesn't either. You have to learn to live with it. It sucks, but it's true. It seems to me like Ali is adapting as best she can. I just wish they'd follow doctor's orders so she can live her best for as long as possible, if that makes any sense.