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I would have missed FJ. "Ooh-Where the Wild Things Are! Who wrote that? Kind of an odd name, wasn't it Mendak or something! Wait, that's literature. Is literature part of the arts? It's not music or dance or theater. Maybe Mr. Rogers said it, I remember a quote from him about the importance of children's play. But he was on tv. Wouldn't the category say media if it were him?"

Time's up.

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Nothing will ever top the way that girl in the Teen Tournament (I think?) answered "Who is Bella?" for a Twilight question with such complete and utter disdain. It was a thing of beauty.

 

To be fair, I probably would have done the same.  Twilight is awful, and Bella is a terrible character.  

 

Yet another clue about Hawaii where no one gives a correct response, although this time it was a DD.  I can't believe Eugene missed the Josephine DD.  It seemed so easy to me.  It seemed to me that if you know the bare basics about French history, it was not hard to figure out.  I could tell by his wager, he probably did not have any confidence in that category.  

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Did I miss something in the Second Novel category? The answer was "The Two Towers" and Joel said "The Fellowship of the Ring." So they were looking for the name of the first book? Because I thought they were looking for series and so "The Lord of the Rings" would be right, but nothing was said about it.

I also gave the side-eye to Alex saying "what is" when Joel said "Freaks" because what was that about?

Joel was making me nervous because his nervousness was coming at me from the screen. Perhaps running a marathon before your taping wasn't the best idea.

My dialogue to the hubs during FJ - I blurted out "Grapes of Wrath", but then said well maybe it's "Gone With the Wind?" Or perhaps "Of Mice and Men?" But then I said well Oklahoma is in the answer so that sounds like it's important, so I'm going to stick with Grapes because you should always go with your first instinct. And lo and behold, Alex read my mind and said that Oklahoma was important. And I was proud of myself, heh.

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Did I miss something in the Second Novel category? The answer was "The Two Towers" and Joel said "The Fellowship of the Ring." So they were looking for the name of the first book? Because I thought they were looking for series and so "The Lord of the Rings" would be right, but nothing was said about it.

I also gave the side-eye to Alex saying "what is" when Joel said "Freaks" because what was that about?

-Correct, they wanted the name of the first book in the series

-In the first round they'll remind you to phrase in the form of a question, but no penalty. In round two you're wrong if you don't.

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Are the writers just getting lazy -- that's two 20th century book FJs in two days ?  There are lots of other categories they can use for FJ, I swear.

 

Add to that the movie actor category repetition -- Channing Tatum movies last Friday, Brad Pitt movies yesterday. Does this mean that 6 months from now we will be looking at a category of Eric Roberts movies since they are running out of actors </snark>.

 

The flags made out of food category yesterday was just bizarre, followed up by today's Dinner and a Broadway show -- with a picture of pot roast, of all things, as the $1000 clue.  The category really should have been 'Dinner or a Broadway show' since the none of the answers included both aspects of the category title, because after the $400 clue I was musing if there was every a Broadway show called 'Lobster' ('cause you never know).

 

Did I miss something in the Second Novel category? The answer was "The Two Towers" and Joel said "The Fellowship of the Ring." So they were looking for the name of the first book? Because I thought they were looking for series and so "The Lord of the Rings" would be right, but nothing was said about it.

 

They were looking for the first book in the series, but Alex worded it weird by asking for the predecessor to the book named instead of just stating we want the title of the first book in the series.

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Either my IQ doubled overnight (highly unlikely) or that was one of the easiest games ever.  The Three Letter Words and Dinner and a Broadway Show (I agree it should have been OR and that $1000 clue was cringe worthy) should have been in a Teen Tournament.  I blurted out the FJ answer before Alex was finished reading it.

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Either my IQ doubled overnight (highly unlikely) or that was one of the easiest games ever.  The Three Letter Words and Dinner and a Broadway Show (I agree it should have been OR and that $1000 clue was cringe worthy) should have been in a Teen Tournament.  I blurted out the FJ answer before Alex was finished reading it.

I was thinking the same thing! Sadly, I agree that we did not get smarter overnight. I will give them a bit of a break and concede that it was partly because the categories were really in my favour. 

 

I was really surprised that The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe was a TS, but maybe Narnia isn't as well known as I think it should be, lol!

 

As always, I was disappointed that they didn't get to all the clues.

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I never accurately precall clues, but in the second title category I precalled both "The Two Towers" and "Prince Caspian." That was unusually fun for me, but at the same time, there aren't a lot of series that aren't genre, and if you start to add in well known enough to be on Jeopardy!, they are mostly fantasy books.

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I was thinking the same thing! Sadly, I agree that we did not get smarter overnight. I will give them a bit of a break and concede that it was partly because the categories were really in my favour. 

 

I was really surprised that The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe was a TS, but maybe Narnia isn't as well known as I think it should be, lol!

 

As always, I was disappointed that they didn't get to all the clues.

True, the categories didn't include Opera, Shakespeare, Norse Gods or Obscure African Countries so that was in my favor.

I don't like it when they don't clear the board either.

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I was really surprised that The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe was a TS, but maybe Narnia isn't as well known as I think it should be, lol!

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In the 1990s the books were re-published in a different order, with Prince Caspian actually as 3rd in the series. That could have thrown off today's contestants, possibly. (Don't get me started on the revised order. I'm not a fan.)

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So do I.  He seems intelligent, nice, interesting and, because I'm shallow, rather cute.  He can stay awhile.  I was surprised that he got the Pele question wrong, though.

I'm drawing a blank. What was the clue? I don't remember Mariusz having to answer a soccer/futbol clue.

 

I finally got to watch yesterday's game. (Stupid holiday company keeping me from my programs.) I'm so sorry to see Mariusz go. Aggie kind of snuck up on everyone, I think. A quiet performer.

 

I thought The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe was a no-brainer. Ya just never know. 

 

I guess "Buster Brown" isn't common knowledge anymore. 

 

Another TS I knew was Melissa & Doug being a toy maker. Cool stuff.

 

One of my pet peeves is when they use a plural verb when a singular one is correct. In this ep, it was Joel saying, "What are Close Encounters of the Third Kind." No, you're talking about the title, so it's "What IS Close Encounters of the Third Kind."

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Wow -- J. Robert Oppenheimer was TS, and they even supplied a photo of him.  The category was all about Los Alamos and the first A-bomb development -- who else would it have been ?

 

As soon as I saw that female fictional characters category, I guessed that Katniss would be in there -- and bam, $200 clue.

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I'm not good at Jeopardy!, but I ran the Los Alamos category. I agree, Oppenheimer as a TS was a surprise, but I have to say I got Feynman because a friend of mine gave me his book they were referring to in the clue. I've had it for over a year and still haven't made it through it because, well, he really comes off as thinking well of himself (yes, he's brilliant), but he's also a boring writer.

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was surprised that he got the Pele question wrong, though.

I'm drawing a blank. What was the clue? I don't remember Mariusz having to answer a soccer/futbol clue.

 

 

 

The clue referred to the Hawai'ian goddess of fire.  I knew it was Pele having been to an entertainment in Hawaii that had a mention of it, and also because of the song by Israel Kamakawiwo'ole called "Maui Hawaiian Sup'pa Man."

 

The clues in which certain words were underlined had to do with how the game "Mad Libs" is played.

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I felt very old when I got that right away and none of the contestants did.

My parents were visiting so they watched with me. Both of them started singing a song about Buster Brown. My dad recently had a stroke and has some difficulty with recall, but he remembered the entire song. It was a cool moment for me.

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In reading Arthur's column about being back on Jeopardy, it helped me put a finger on what I find annoying about him.  People lose weight every day, for various reasons, and Arthur's one of them. Yet he can't just say, hey, I like how I look on camera better, or I like how I feel better, or I think I'm more attractive at this weight, or whatever other reason he had for losing 30 pounds.  It turns into some silly self-obsessive reason that's somehow related to being the villain of the season.  Dude, you lost weight, people noticed, no one cares beyond that.  I just find his me-me-me worldview annoying, and his self-perceived starring role in the Jeopardy universe as the contemptible villain tiresome.  We're all fascinated by ourselves, but most people don't put it out there for the world to see.

 

FWIW, I thought Brad Rutter looked better at his original weight. ;-)

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With a little bit of nosy research after viewing the show's credits, I found an interesting bit of Jeopardy! trivia:

 

Grant Loud, Promotions Director, is the same who appeared with his family in the (filmed in 1971, broadcast in 1973) PBS TV series, "An American Family", considered to be the first true reality programming.  He is married to Michelle Silverman Loud, one of Jeopardy!'s writers.

 

One of many sources:  http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/16/fashion/the-mother-of-all-housewives.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

 

I think his mother, Pat, still looks very true to her 1971 image.  Have always been intrigued by AAF since its first broadcast and, in fact, still have the entire series that I taped at the time, which I occasionally revisit.

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I'm not going to quote your post, Tunia, but when I was a contestant in 1997, he was one of the contestant "minders" for the lack of a better word. We were picked up at the parking garage and drove to the entrance of the studio. He was one of the people who escorted us to the green room and did the pre-interview with us for our personal interest stories. Anyway, I recognized him immediately and asked him if he was one of that family. He answered yes, but then one of the other contestants started asking him a bunch of personal questions, like she knew the whole family personally. It was a weird situation but that particular contestant was overbearing anyway. Of course, she completely bombed during her game, about which I got a small sense of satisfaction.

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Back in maybe the early 90s I watched Jeopardy for a while but gave up because I noticed they were accepting quite a few incorrect answers.  Not just spelling, but (say) that a quote was from Hamlet when it was really from Macbeth.  I was watching in the hope of learning things, so I figured that if some of those I knew were wrong, probably some of those I didn't know were wrong too, and I didn't want to learn misinformation.  Recently I started watching again, and have not noticed wrong answers, but maybe that is because I am paying less attention.  How does this compare with other viewers' experience?

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Hi, I'm a new member to the Jeopardy community, but I've seen many episodes. There is one specific episode that I've been searching for, but am unable to find. It is episode #5175 (otherwise known as season 23 episode 40). It aired in 2007 and featured Sri Narayanan vs. Dorothy Cassetta vs. Jim Sherman. The reason I am asking is because Ms. Dorothy Cassetta teaches at my school and we would like to see how she did. I have been able to find her scores and the questions asked, but never the entire episode. If anyone here is an avid collector of Jeopardy episodes, would you be able to send me that video? Also, if you are able to find a site that contains this episode, that would be much appreciated. I'm sure there are other Jeopardy views that would also like a free site to watch videos from. Thanks in advance!

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Hi, I'm a new member to the Jeopardy community, but I've seen many episodes. There is one specific episode that I've been searching for, but am unable to find. It is episode #5175 (otherwise known as season 23 episode 40). It aired in 2007 and featured Sri Narayanan vs. Dorothy Cassetta vs. Jim Sherman. The reason I am asking is because Ms. Dorothy Cassetta teaches at my school and we would like to see how she did. I have been able to find her scores and the questions asked, but never the entire episode. If anyone here is an avid collector of Jeopardy episodes, would you be able to send me that video? Also, if you are able to find a site that contains this episode, that would be much appreciated. I'm sure there are other Jeopardy views that would also like a free site to watch videos from. Thanks in advance!

I'm not sure if this is exactly what you want, but here is a summary of the episode: http://www.j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=1761. I don't know if there is a site that contains a video of every game. You may have to ask Ms. Cassetta if she has a video of the game.

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Hi, I'm a new member to the Jeopardy community, but I've seen many episodes. There is one specific episode that I've been searching for, but am unable to find. It is episode #5175 (otherwise known as season 23 episode 40). It aired in 2007 and featured Sri Narayanan vs. Dorothy Cassetta vs. Jim Sherman. The reason I am asking is because Ms. Dorothy Cassetta teaches at my school and we would like to see how she did. I have been able to find her scores and the questions asked, but never the entire episode. If anyone here is an avid collector of Jeopardy episodes, would you be able to send me that video? Also, if you are able to find a site that contains this episode, that would be much appreciated. I'm sure there are other Jeopardy views that would also like a free site to watch videos from. Thanks in advance!

 

Well, I found this, but you need to register for an account in order to view.  I have no idea if it's safe (and I don't personally wish to register).

 

http://thewatchseries.to/episode/Jeopardy_(1984)_s44_e40.html

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I am resurrecting this old thread because I assume it is the proper place to discuss the old episodes that are currently on Netflix. What a treasure! I finally got to watch Ken Jennings in one of his original 74 wins. Okay, I get the hype now. He was charming and somewhat adorable while steamrolling over the competition. (Until now, I've only seen Twitter Ken, who can be insufferable at times, and Tournament Ken, who always ends up getting Ruttered.)

Then I got to see Dave Madden and Justin Sausville during their runs, and Roger Craig's first win. I knew what was coming when he hit those DD. It never gets old to hear him say "I'll bet it all." 

Watching these games has reinforced to me how absolutely insane James' playing was. 

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I've also been watching the old games on Netflix.  Specifically, so far I've seen Season 1, Episode 1, and Season 2, Episode 1.  Fascinating to see the way the show was presented early on.

The most obvious difference, apart from Alex's appearance, is that he did a lot more explaining of how the game worked in the early days.  Today they just take it for granted that everybody understands the game, but back then he started off by going through how the game was played in case anybody wasn't familiar.  Also, the "end of round" sound effect was a lot more obnoxious!  And in the first season, you could ring in as soon as you knew the answer!  They didn't go to the "wait until Alex finishes reading the clue" rule until the start of Season 2.  Alex specifically announced the change in the rules, and said it was to make it easier for viewers at home to play along.

A couple of curiosities:  You'd think that Season 1, Episode 1 would be the first episode ever aired.  And yet it had a returning champion who had somehow already won 2 games.  Wha??

Season 2, Episode 1 featured a misspoken contestant response.  Someone said "What is The Hounds of the Baskervilles" (rather than the correct "Hound"), and Alex accepted it.  These days that would get corrected later, and the contestant would have had some money deducted.  But they let it pass, and never corrected it.  Shocking!

And even then, there was the occasional contestant who started in the middle of a category!

It's fun to see the way the game was played in the early days.

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19 hours ago, Abstract said:

I am resurrecting this old thread because I assume it is the proper place to discuss the old episodes that are currently on Netflix. What a treasure! I finally got to watch Ken Jennings in one of his original 74 wins.

Does Netflix have Ken's entire run of 74 games? (It's OK if nobody answers this. I'll be on Netflix later today for Stranger Things anyway, so I'll try to remember to check.)

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49 minutes ago, rubaco said:

Does Netflix have Ken's entire run of 74 games? (It's OK if nobody answers this. I'll be on Netflix later today for Stranger Things anyway, so I'll try to remember to check.)

No. It has the first episode of season 21 which was in the middle of his run.

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4 hours ago, MrAtoz said:

A couple of curiosities:  You'd think that Season 1, Episode 1 would be the first episode ever aired.  And yet it had a returning champion who had somehow already won 2 games.  Wha??

I think somewhere upthread someone said it wasn't really S1 E1. That it was really the "pilot" episode. Occasionally, they would show the pilot episodes of game shows on Buzzr TV and they would have a "returning" champ, who probably wasn't "returning", but just called him/her that to show what the game would be like when it wasn't the premiere episode of the series. BTW, if you really wanted to see how a game show evolved, try to find early (like 61/62) episodes of "The Price is Right". Practically unrecognizable compared to today's TPIR.

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57 minutes ago, illdoc said:

BTW, if you really wanted to see how a game show evolved, try to find early (like 61/62) episodes of "The Price is Right". Practically unrecognizable compared to today's TPIR.

Also try to watch some '60s B&W Match Game as opposed to the revival in the '70s

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1 hour ago, illdoc said:

BTW, if you really wanted to see how a game show evolved, try to find early (like 61/62) episodes of "The Price is Right". Practically unrecognizable compared to today's TPIR.

Oh, I've seen some of those!  GSN used to show older B&W games shows on Sunday evenings ("Sunday night in Black and White!").  Lots of fun.

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My Grandparents were addicted to the Bill Cullen/Price is Right. They had separate bedrooms; Nana would go to bed early & Poppop was a night owl. One morning in 1961, she, as usual, was up way before he was. Come around time for him to get up, she put on a pot of coffee, knowing that would rouse him (his bedroom was right next to the kitchen.)  It didn't wake him. Come 11, time for TPIR, she went in to wake him up & discovered he had died during the night. I've always wondered if it hadn't been for TPIR, how long she would have waited before checking on him. (He had the most peaceful expression on his face.)

Personally, I think the old TPIR was a more interesting show. I hate all these shows with the flashing lights & fake excitement. I like a low-key show, which is probably why I love Jeopardy!

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I watched the pilot episode last night. I was in the hotel fitness room and didn't have earbuds, so I watched with close captioning on. The players were much more hyper, applauding for themselves after every correct response, practically jumping up and down. Jeopardy has definitely become more dignified since then!

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