S06.E10: The Next World

[ParadoxLost]

We will see how it goes, but I am not a shipper. Just don't turn this into Melrose Place.

 

I think its less likely to go Melrose Place this way.  If they didn't get together, Rick ad Michonne would have inevitably ended up in relationships where one of their significant other's would have gotten jealous over the family unit and started plotting to feed the 'work spouse' to Zombies.

 

I tend to think this is not going to be a lot different from how they acted from the time Michonne found Rick and Carl after the prison fell except their will be more casual affection.  I'm actually curious how the rest of CDB reacts. I suspect a lot of you just now figured this out?

[Raven1707]

I doubt if I'll catch up with the thread before Thursday, but this was a dagger through my heart!

 

...move through time and space like a leaf on the wind.

 

Damn Joss Whedon! Not Wash!

Edited February 23, 2016 by Raven1707

[peach]

Really? But wasn't Jessie a "slut"? Or maybe I'm thinking of Andrea. Or Lori. What brings forth the appelation of slut from so many righteous viewers of this show? It can't be a woman who has sex with a man not her husband because I don't think I've seen Rosita or Maggie or now Michonne being so labelled. So that narrows it down to woman who has sex with a man when she believes herself to be a widow (Lori) OR who has sex with *gasp* TWO men (Andrea). Those sluts! How dare they?

 

Sluts, rapists, what have you.  Whatever is irrational and extreme because s-e-x.  Back to ripping people's guts out because THIS IS A FAMILY SHOW!

 

But, yeah, right here on this board were impassioned discussions about how predatory and dangerous Rick was toward poor lil ole Jessie.  He was JUST LIKE the Governor, donchaknow.

Edited February 23, 2016 by peach

[Dodginblue]

I doubt if I'll catch up with the thread before Thursday, but this was a dagger through my heart!

 

 

Damn Joss Whedon! Not Wash!

Watch how I soar...onto a moving truck.  

[peach]

I think its less likely to go Melrose Place this way.  If they didn't get together, Rick ad Michonne would have inevitably ended up in relationships where one of their significant other's would have gotten jealous over the family unit and started plotting to feed the 'work spouse' to Zombies.

That was honestly how I thought it was going to go.  So happy they made it a natural thing.  I don't think it will drag down into a soap opera, because we'll be quite lucky if Rick or Michonne even feature much at at all in the rest of the season.  I mean, how is dumbass Spencer holding up, amirite?  There are seven hundred other characters with burning issues to focus on.  :P

[Dodginblue]

Sluts, rapists, what have you.  Whatever is irrational and extreme because s-e-x.  Back to ripping people's guts out because THIS IS A FAMILY SHOW!

 

I hadn't thought the show was that shy about showing sexual encounters.  I haven't studied all the episodes for that purpose but I remember Lori and Shane in the woods and the Governor getting it on with Andrea and then with Tara's sister.  Maggie and Glenn of course.  And then there are relationships that we can assume are sexual, like Bob and Sasha, even if we don't see it.  Two openly gay couples are on the show, we've had casual sex, Andrea and Shane, Abraham and Rosita.

 

And I didn't realize that there was so much outrage about all that.  The show's an hour long and its season is what, 6 or 8 episodes at a time?  Not a lot of time to keep things moving on the show.   I subscribe to the theory that in a real life ZA there'd be all kinds of  hook ups and trading off but  I get why the show can't really have that be a main focus.  There's just not enough time.  I also think that in a real life ZA, once people could get to a place of relative safety, there would be probably be more polyamorous relationships and not so much monogamy,   Somehow I doubt we'll see that on the WD though!

[bearcatfan]

Ugh, pet peeve is going out for dinner, asking for a Diet Coke, and having the server ask me if Diet Pepsi is ok instead. In fact I won't even go to Pizza Hut anymore and eat in because of it. I just get my food to go now.

 

Um, no. If I wanted Diet Pepsi I would have asked for Diet Pepsi. Diet Coke tastes nothing like Diet Pepsi.

I don't drink much pop (like Denise) but if I do it's Coke Zero or Diet Coke. I refuse to drink Diet Pepsi. That stuff is foul!

[peach]

And I didn't realize that there was so much outrage about all that. 

So. Much. Drama.

[AngelaHunter]

discussions about how predatory and dangerous Rick was toward poor lil ole Jessie.

 

Rick, as sexual predator. Funny.

[peach]

Rick, as sexual predator. Funny.

No cheek shall go unravished.

[peach]

I watched this again tonight (because my husband missed it last night), and I really enjoyed the subtle details.  Rick listening to More Than A Feeling in the morning.  Mmm hmm.

 

And with Richonne's cozy couch conversation, I thought it was also a callback to the very opening scene of the pilot, when Rick is telling Shane that Lori is pissed at him all the time because he doesn't speak enough.  And then when he does, she doesn't like that either.  Here, Rick doesn't want to talk about his crazy day yet, and Michonne is totally cool with that.  They just relax together in comfy quiet.  And she didn't even get mad when he said her toothpaste was at the bottom of a lake.  She sympathized with him.  SHE is his kindred spirit, as Scott Gimple said.

See, Lori, if you shut up long enough, he'll hold your hand and make out with you.

[HalcyonDays]

I watched this again tonight (because my husband missed it last night), and I really enjoyed the subtle details.  Rick listening to More Than A Feeling in the morning.  Mmm hmm.

 

And with Richonne's cozy couch conversation, I thought it was also a callback to the very opening scene of the pilot, when Rick is telling Shane that Lori is pissed at him all the time because he doesn't speak enough.  And then when he does, she doesn't like that either.  Here, Rick doesn't want to talk about his crazy day yet, and Michonne is totally cool with that.  They just relax together in comfy quiet.  And she didn't even get mad when he said her toothpaste was at the bottom of a lake.  She sympathized with him.  SHE is his kindred spirit, as Scott Gimple said.

See, Lori, if you shut up long enough, he'll hold your hand and make out with you.

 

OMG, now that you've pointed it out, you are TOTALLY right! What a nice call-back and comparison. Wow.

[AnnaMayWong]

EllenC

Yest. 2:39 am

I MIGHT be bored, if I weren't busy imagining myself in a truck with Darryl, Rick and Jesus. Or somewhere. Is that bad?

⭐ ⬆ No. Most definitely, no, it is not. :-)

...

Edited February 23, 2016 by BookElitist

[AnnaMayWong]

Raven1707

Yest. 2:28 am

Ah, how I love watching Rick Grimes run!              

⭐ ⬆   Uh, huh. Yaaas. I rewound and rewound to watch THAT. (lol!)

[cynic]

I get what some are saying about TV not showing platonic relationships between men and women. However, I think TV also rarely shows healthy, romantic relationships that are built on friendship, respect, and trust instead of instant lust, dysfunction, and a mutual need to snark at each other. I love that we saw Rick and Michonne slowly grow into best friends and that has now turned into something more. I hope the show keeps their relationship strong and drama free.

Also, it's practically revolutionary for a big show like this to have its main romantic couple be an interracial one with a black woman, especially a black woman that doesn't conform to euro centric standards of beauty.

[AnnaMayWong]

Boofish

Yest. 2:21 am

Finally got the answer to the question of the century - what would Jesus do

Edited by Boofish, Yest. 2:23 am.

                     

⬆                                                                           haha!  Oh. My. 'god'❗ (lol‼)

[Persnickety1]

I was a bit confused (not an unusual state for me) when the episode started and thought perhaps Rick and Michonne had been hooking up during the elapsed time since the end of the last episode.

 

At the end of the episode, I decided the writers must have put that opening segment in to show the viewers just how comfortable Rick, Michonne, Carl, and Judith had become together so it didn't look like a huge leap with the end of the episode hand-holding/kiss/sexy times scene.

 

Now, here's where I'm having difficulty producing a gratifying fanwank....

 

How the fresh hell are they managing to take and print/develop photographs?

 

I appreciated the picture of Carl and Judith was to show us time had progressed....but...Okay, help me out, fellow PTV'ers.  

 

There's no internet, no WiFi, no cell phones, etc.  

 

Is there maybe a photographer and some super-secret dark room somewhere deep in the corridors of Alexandria???

 

I don't know out of the multitude of roll with it moments this one with the photograph really bugs me, but it does.

 

And, BTW, I'm agnostic but that is one hot-assed Jesus that I'd go on my knees for.  YOWZA...THANK YOU, SHOW!!!!!!!!!

Edited February 23, 2016 by Persnickety1

[morgankobi]

While you're at it, don't forget RC and Double Cola - both Southern traditions as well.

Pepsi sucks with Moon Pies, BTW.

;)

 

Pepsi doesn't work with boiled peanuts either. Although sweet tea is better than Coke in that instance.

 

You are not the only one. My BFF since childhood is a guy, and he is straight. I love him, but it has never been romantic love. I would never risk our deep friendship by even trying a romance.

We will see how it goes, but I am not a shipper. Just don't turn this into Melrose Place.

 

I swear to Flying-Ninja-Jesus I would watch every second of a Zombie re-boot of Melrose Place.

 

I really loved the little low-five Rick gave Michonne on the way out at the start of the day. It was quick, but a nice bit of characterization. 

Edited February 23, 2016 by morgankobi

[cynic]

...

Now, here's where I'm having difficulty producing a gratifying fanwank....

How the fresh hell are they managing to take and print/develop photographs?

I appreciated the picture of Carl and Judith was to show us time had progressed....but...Okay, help me out, fellow PTV'ers.

There's no internet, no WiFi, no cell phones, etc.

Is there maybe a photographer and some super-secret dark room somewhere deep in the corridors of Alexandria???

I don't know out of the multitude of roll with it moments this one with the photograph really bugs me, but it does.

...

One of the Alexandrians must have a dark room, because we were shown that they took photos of their enclave for proof to show newcomers. I don't remember if they gave us the details, but being able to develop photos at least didn't come out of nowhere last night. Edited February 23, 2016 by cynic

[Persnickety1]

One of the Alexandrians must have a dark room, because we were shown that they took photos of their enclave for proof to show newcomers. I don't remember if they gave us the details, but being able to develop photos at least didn't come out of nowhere last night.

 

Oh, damn, you're right.  I'd forgotten all about that.

 

Okay, now I can go back to focusing on how complacent Rick and Darryl have gotten going on runs.  

[Nashville]

 

Now, here's where I'm having difficulty producing a gratifying fanwank....

 

How the fresh hell are they managing to take and print/develop photographs?

 

I appreciated the picture of Carl and Judith was to show us time had progressed....but...Okay, help me out, fellow PTV'ers.  

 

There's no internet, no WiFi, no cell phones, etc.  

 

Is there maybe a photographer and some super-secret dark room somewhere deep in the corridors of Alexandria???

 

I don't know out of the multitude of roll with it moments this one with the photograph really bugs me, but it does.

 

 

No mystery; it's Aaron.

Aaron took and developed the ASZ photos he showed potential recruits, remember?

The same photos which led the Wolves to Alexandria, BTW.

 

Pepsi doesn't work with boiled peanuts either. Although sweet tea is better than Coke in that instance.

Coke kicks Pepsi's ass with salted peanuts; never tried it with boiled peanuts, though. That an Alabama thing? :>

[CarpeDiem54]

Enid needs to be walker chow ASAP. She's become Lori, Jr. - whiny and bitchy. And she apparently hides when there's work to be done. I get that Coral's a teenaged boy and she's the only female in his age group and he's horny but DAMN go find someone's porn stash instead of reading stupid comic books in the woods.

Which brings me to - Coral, stay in the fucking house! Or at least the town. Dumbass.

The Spenser and Deanna (who looked exactly the same dead as alive except for her eyes) stuff was a time waster and dumb. Time could have been better spent with...

Butch Abbott and Sundance Costello who apparently were smoking weed during their road trip. I was hoping Rick would slip in a CD of "One Toke Over the Line, Sweet Jesus". Now, that would have been epic!

Michonne had a towel on her head in the morning like she'd washed her hair. But it looked filthy later on. I guess it's because it's dreads now instead of the sleek and pretty braids she started out with. I wish she'd chop that crap off. The actress is beautiful with her short hair.

I don't watch The Talking Dead, so anything said there doesn't exist for me. I assumed, from the morning scene with Michonne in her bathrobe, and with how she, Rick and the kids seemed so at ease with each other and acted quite domestic, that Richonne had been a couple for awhile. I liked the confirmation at the end with their comfortable couple on the couch leading to making out and then lovemaking. It was an island of tranquility in the horrible ZA sea.

But again, DAMN, with a couple of kids in the house and friends who seem to come and go at will, why didn't they lock the bedroom door so that Jesus asshole couldn't just barge in?

Speaking of which, how'd he get away from Daryl, the dirtiest, greasiest, stinkiest man alive, and how did he know which house Rick would be in? I don't like him or trust him at all.

ETA -I'm from Montana/Wyoming/Nebraska and have lived in Colorado for 40+ years. I've always called soft drinks "pop". And we drank Pepsi and Dr. Pepper (I'm sucking down a Diet Dr. Pepper this very moment) and, yes, Orange Crush, growing up - never Coke.

Edited February 23, 2016 by CarpeDiem54

[AnnaMayWong]

Alright, alright, just 'cause Michonne and Rick had one, two,...fantabulous (sigh) moments, doesn't mean that The Show is going to become relationship/romance maudlin riddled. Those two bad ____ know how to 'rock 'n' rolla'--hard.

They already had a solid caring 'got your back AND heart' Relationship. Now, they have a deeper caring 'got your back,  great a##, ...and heart'  RELATIONShip.

I'm sure that both Michonne and Rick will continue to WHAM❗ BAM❗  thank you... uh, I mean, definitely body slam (anyone and all things) anywhere, anytime...

...after all, they have Jesus on their side...

[Eyes High]

And, BTW, I'm agnostic but that is one hot-assed Jesus that I'd go on my knees for.  YOWZA...THANK YOU, SHOW!!!!!!!!!

 

He looks like a white Jesse Williams. Those eyes!

 

I love that when Daryl got a gun pulled on him when he and Jesus were scuffling in the truck, he didn't even blink but just grabbed the gun.

 

 

 

Speaking of which, how'd he get away from Daryl, the dirtiest, greasiest, stinkiest man alive

I laughed pretty hard when Rick was talking about Jesus. "He was clean...unlike some people. My God, man."

Edited February 23, 2016 by Eyes High

[AnnaMayWong]

Oh, CarpeDiem54, you really should have watched Sunday's The Taking Dead. Danai Gurira was smashingly gorgeous(!).

[CarpeDiem54]

Oh, CarpeDiem54, you really should have watched Sunday's The Taking Dead. Danai Gurira was smashingly gorgeous(!).

I don't have cable. I watch TWD on Amazon, which is great, since there are no commercials.

[Cobalt Stargazer]

 Coke kicks Pepsi's ass with salted peanuts; never tried it with boiled peanuts, though. That an Alabama thing? :>

 

I live in NC, and we have boiled peanuts here. Mostly it's fair food, but sometimes I make my own. And although lots of southerners do drink Coke,I had an aunt who always carried around a travel mug of diet Dr. Pepper.

 

As a random note, why is Carl called Coral? It's funny, but I don't get it.

[Bad Example]

I swear to Flying-Ninja-Jesus 

 

Now this is a phrase I'm going to have to adopt!

[CarpeDiem54]

As a random note, why is Carl called Coral? It's funny, but I don't get it.

Because that's the way Rick pronounces "Carl".

[Anela]

Yeah!!! I'm glad the spoiler was true, although now I'm wishing I hadn't read the spoiler in the first place.

 

I liked the more lighthearted tone to the episode (for the most part), although I want to know how Jesus kept escaping - and so quickly, when they realized he was on top of the truck. what the hell? I also thought his name would be pronounced hey-zeus, not literally "Jesus". 

[Cobalt Stargazer]

Because that's the way Rick pronounces "Carl".

 

Huh. I never noticed that before, but you're right. Learn something new every day.

[Haleth]

I hope this new relationship doesn't change Rick and Michonne.  I'd hate to have them get all shmoopy around each other (like he was with Jessie).  Leave that to Glenn and Maggie.  R&M need to stay focused on the community and save private times for themselves.

 

Speaking of Maggie, I don't know how far along she was supposed to be before the invasion, but even if it was 2 or 3 month, putting her even at 5 months now she might not be showing much.  They had her in a pretty loose shirt anyway.

 

When the group first came to Alexandria and Carl was hanging out with the kids in the attic there was at least one other teenage boy besides Ron.  And they implied there were other kids (at school).  What happened to all the other kids?

 

When I moved to IN from the NYC area I had to learn a whole new vocabulary, pop being one of the new words.

Edited February 23, 2016 by Haleth

[SevenStars]

I loved the vibe between Michonne and Spencer. I hope the writers give them more scenes together.

Jesus is already a favorite of mine. And I hope to see more of him with Rick and Daryl.

[Bryce Lynch]

Yes! Richonne !

I don't trust Jesus.

I don't totally trust him either. But, with his super powers, I tend to think Darryl and Rick would already be dead if he is really a bad guy.

[Anela]

About the rest of the show, Daryl and Rick were hilarious. It is hard to believe that they fell for Jesus' games. They are usually more savy.

 

Michonne with Carl and Judith are so adorable. When he said that he loved her, it was so heartwarming.

 

That was one of my favourite parts.

Oh, my God, he's holding her hand.

 

Oh, my God, she's holding his.

 

And there's the look.

 

Yeah!

 

I don't even like Rick all that much, but that was awesome. And yes, I'm fourteen years old tonight, but so what?

 

 

The reason I liked the Richonne moment is because it was a normal kind of moment that 2 people would have on a quiet night, even in a regular world with no ZA going on.  They shared details of their day, like a couple would.  They giggled together, like a couple would.  When they looked at each other and made the connection, and then realized what they were about to do, it felt very intimate and private... which is how it should feel.  It would have been ridiculous if they had been having a huge fight in the middle of a storm or something, and then fell into a pile of hay in a passionate heap.  This was much more realistic.  It was neither overly romantic, nor was it cheap and sleazy.  It was pretty much just as it should have been for those 2 people to get it on for the first time.

 

It was so sweet. I love it, because it did seem like a natural progression. I'm one of the annoying posters who thought that they had chemistry, a year ago, but I barely think about that sort of thing most of the time. 

 

Only pockets of Ohio call fries "jojos" and usually it refers to potato wedges, not shoestring fries like at McDonald's.

 

Topic? Non-comics reader. I'm guessing the beard is really integral to the look of Jesus as a character, but it was such a bad beard. Really - between his beard, Abraham's traffic cone-orange color, and Daryl's shoe-polish dark emo cut, I think the really talented hairstylists didn't survive the ZA.

 

I'm between Akron and Canton, and a local place calls potato wedges "jojos". They're covered in breadcrumbs, and then fried. I like them by themselves, no ketchup or vinegar needed to enhance flavour. We get them from a place called Carla's (I think), or Giant Eagle's section for soup, salads, and other dinner items. 

 

I grew up in England, though, and am still confused by some of the new things that people come out with (new to me). 

 

I had to do it:

 

View My Video

haha! Perfect. 

I think it was catrox's happy reaction to Richonne, the other night, in the spoiler thread. As it happened on-screen, I was picturing catrox like this:

http://rs4.pbsrc.com/albums/y145/rogue_kiss/Fairy%20Tale/Frog%20Prince/tumblr_m91azgiYia1qdbcnr.gif~c200

[nachomama]

Clevelander here. I've heard the term jo jo used for potato wedges. Not all that often though. I think it's one of those terms that have migrated here from other places. I've seen jo-jos on the menus of various chicken and barbecue restaurants.

 

The souther habit of saying "coke" for any carbonated beverage has always driven me crazy. To me, "Coke" is a brand name and I only use it as such.  The same is true for "Kleenex" and "Xerox." 

Aspirin used to be a  brand name and then it became vernacular. Coke is just omnipresent in the south. 

How the fresh hell are they managing to take and print/develop photographs?

Is there maybe a photographer and some super-secret dark room somewhere deep in the corridors of Alexandria???

 

 

I figured there's gotta be someone old school but like the magic gasoline and everything else that hasn't gone bad I don't know how they still have chemicals to develop them old school.

Coke kicks Pepsi's ass with salted peanuts; never tried it with boiled peanuts, though. That an Alabama thing? :>

I think there was a thing with putting salted peanuts in your coke but I don't know bout that. boiled peanuts are nasty. ooky, yucky, blech blech. but as a truly white trash southerner I can pair my coke with food, not so much wine. And a very nice sharp cheddar, like super sharp, goes very well with a nice co-cola. If you can get the mexican ones still in the glass bottle (made with sugar not corn syrup) even better. 

 

And I was never brave enough to try Laverne and Shirley's "milk n pepsi" gag!

[Timetoread]

I don't bother much with that stuff, but - IMO - the protest was because no one wanted Rick with Jessie and it had nothing to do with the dreaded "S" word.

 

There was no reason for someone to want Rick with Jessie.  He had literally just met her the day before, she hadn't done anything but be nice and be pretty - and she was married.  Other than watch Michonne walk away alot, Rick hadn't shown any interest toward any woman since Lori (two full seasons prior for viewers).  Suddenly Rick the pragmatist starts looking and acting as if he is dripping lust and we were all kind of like "Huh?".  Jessie wasn't especially compelling - or compelling AT ALL.  She was just a pretty blonde.  Now I'm sure there is a demographic that believes that this is all that is necessary, but most viewers of the sci fi/horror genre tend to be into character first, followed by looks.  And none of the ladies on this show are exactly what you'd call ugly.  If Rick had shown any sexual interest for any one of them at any given time, we'd get it.  But we'd need the story to drive it.  We'd need to see what it is about this one woman that was making her special to him.  Hell, if they had cast an actress who was a dead ringer for Lori and Rick flipped out, then THAT would have made sense too.  But Jessie walked in the room (with her husband, btw) and suddenly Rick was ready to kill for her.  If that isn't soap operatic, I don't know what is.  It looked and felt weird and it was a bit insulting in that it insinuated that the only thing to value in a woman is her looks - as if Rick was just waiting for a woman who was pretty enough because the others weren't.  We thought Rick was deeper than that and that the show was deeper than that.  I was disappointed in both.

Edited February 23, 2016 by Timetoread

[LadyArcadia]

Random thoughts:

Jesus - I love Jesus. (Huh. That's a sentence I never thought I'd type).  That perfect comedic moment when he flew off the roof, stood up, paused, and ran. Rewind. laugh. rewind.  We needed a refreshing mysterious character! Ha! I love you Jesus!

 

Coral's Hat - Awww man. All the hat bashing. I love the hat. It's filthy, it's old, but it's a callback to his childhood and his hero.  He's a man now, he's grown up too fast.  The hat is a great reminder that he's still a kid too. He needs the hat. I smile every time I see it.

 

Denise - Huh. So in the zombie apocalypse, a can of pop is the same as flowers. That's right, I said pop.  Minnesota represent!

 

Richonne - Apparently I'm clueless because I didn't get any sense that they were together in the beginning of the episode. As always, I just thought they'd lived together and were comfortable friends/roommates. It wasn't even a blip on my radar that it could be anything else.

 

Them getting together at the end was just so.... perfect.  It was simply perfect. It wasn't a TV show's unrealistic portrayal of passion. It was real. It was organic. It was the difference between lust and love. The initial tentativeness, the testing, the confirmation, the laughing, the acceptance and just letting go.  Gah. Chills.  And this is why I don't think there was any negativity of Rick and Michonne together.  It wasn't forced, it was the opposite. It was beautiful.

 

I only hope they play this right. I don't want constant PDA or change who they are because of this. I don't want mush. I want electricity. I don't want kisses. I want a meaningful look. I want them to get down to business and touch each other's hand, but just briefly. I want a connection. I want them to continue to be who they are and accept each other for exactly that.  They introduced this in a way I could never imagine. Let's hope they maintain it.

 

Overall - I'm always dismayed when I hear complaints about episodes like this being "boring."  We need this character development. We need to breathe in between the chaos. We need to feel again after devastation. I don't need big explosions and carnage every week. That's what is boring to me. I need a good story.  This one was amazing.

[Enigma X]

Overall - I'm always dismayed when I hear complaints about episodes like this being "boring."  We need this character development. We need to breathe in between the chaos. We need to feel again after devastation. I don't need big explosions and carnage every week. That's what is boring to me. I need a good story.  This one was amazing.

I agree. I actually like many of the slower episodes better. I don't think TWD is only about zombies, blood, guts, and death but also about staying human, humanity, and hope.

[diebartdie]

Southerners don't say "coke" as a word for any carbonated beverage.  Southerners say Coke because they got used to only Coke being available.  And woe be to the fast food person that doesn't understand that Coke means Coke and hands you a Pepsi. If they don't reject it and explain they want a Dr. Pepper or a 7-UP (the most Coke brand like Pepsi product). they are just using Southern manners.  I was raised in the South by Northerners, I explain that Coke means coke.  Actually, I don't order a drink at places that serve Pepsi.

 

Here's the thing.  We were all brainwashed and knowing it doesn't change it.  I grew up in Atlanta and I think their advertising strategy was so savvy and ahead of what Pepsi was doing in the region back then that they changed the local vernacular.    There are two things I remember as a kid. 

 

First, sales at grocery stores were only ever on Coke products.  And I'm talking deep discounts.  Someone would have to literally be willing to pay two or three times the price to drink Pepsi.  And barring the new Coke fiasco, Pepsi and Coke taste different.  If you get used to drinking Coke, you aren't going to see Pepsi as a substitute.  Next, you would not find Pepsi served in a restaurant unless it was one that was owned by Pepsi.

 

 

While you're at it, don't forget RC and Double Cola - both Southern traditions as well.

Pepsi sucks with Moon Pies, BTW.

;)

OK about me, I was born in Virginia, Ive lived in Tennessee, Georgia, Florida (sort of and very very briefly.....) South Carolina and almost 30 years now in North Carolina (and to be even more open with yall, Im a Southerner but I am not a confederate traitor, Union all the way). Now, having established my bona fides, Im very familiar of the vernacular of saying "gimme a coke" when you mean a dark brown sugary carbonated cold beverage (mostly everyone drinks tea and that tea is sweet tea. If you dont want it sweet like liquid candy, ask for unsweet. Only in the past 10 years or so has "unsweet tea" been something that would NOT earn you a weird look). HOWEVER, there is also the "proud" tradition of peanuts in your pepsi (dont knock it if you haven't tried it for real). Personally, I prefer pepsi max over coke zero, diet pepsi over diet coke (I'd drink water out the garden hose before Id drink diet coke) and I adore diet dr pepper.

 

In my experience, down here these days calling all the soft drinks "coke" is more my mom or granny's generations, it's a vernacular that is rapidly fading. You migh occasionally hear someone call it a soda but Ive never once heard a native call it a pop (even though I think "pop" sounds way more fun).

 

ANYWAY, Pepsi (max) rules.

[TattleTeeny]

Michonne had a towel on her head in the morning like she'd washed her hair. But it looked filthy later on. I guess it's because it's dreads now instead of the sleek and pretty braids she started out with. I wish she'd chop that crap off. The actress is beautiful with her short hair.

 

She does look great with short hair--I think she resembles a young Robin Quivers, actually. But I love those dreads so much. I wish I could have them. I have a lot of hair on my head, though it's thinnish (lots of strands but they're not thick individually--if that even makes sense), and it's wildly wavy and has to be tamed. I bet in a zombie apocalypse with minimal access to conditioner and hair dryers/flat irons, I could easily get me some. That's a big price to pay for vanity though.

Edited February 23, 2016 by TattleTeeny

[RustbeltWriter]

So, are we to think that this was Rick and Michonne's first time? I've watched it three times, and I can't decide.

Also, thank you show for making me care about Daryl again for the first time in a while.

 

I think it was their first time but the storytelling was sloppy. At the beginning of the episode I inferred that Michonne walking around in a robe casually talking about toothpaste while Rick got dressed meant that they were a couple. I changed my mind later.

[RustbeltWriter]

Columbus gal here. Nope.

 

Jo Jo's are definitely a northeast Ohio thing. They are potato wedges, much thicker than steak fries. Oh, and we say 'pop'.

[diebartdie]

 

Michonne had a towel on her head in the morning like she'd washed her hair. But it looked filthy later on. I guess it's because it's dreads now instead of the sleek and pretty braids she started out with. I wish she'd chop that crap off. The actress is beautiful with her short hair.

Michonne has only ever had dreadlocks with possibly one or two braids but ALWAYS and forever long, thick, awesome dreadlocks. Compared to Daryl's or Rick's nasty heads, Michonne's hair has always looked clean.

[marcee]

I'm not concerned about the s-e-x changing them. I'm pretty sure the scene at the end with them hopping up stark naked and grabbing their weapons was meant to show that they haven't changed. He didn't jump in front of her to protect her or toss her a pillow to cover herself. They grabbed their weapons and stood at the ready to take on the next threat. It was kind of perfect.

Edited February 23, 2016 by marcee

[AnnaMayWong]

Uumm, I 'grew up' in The South, and I have nevuh evuh heard of nor encountered anyone who has used the brandname slang, Coke, as an universal/common term for soft drinks. I'm familiar with utilizing the name of the drink-- Coke--ONLY when one is 'quaffing' Coca-Cola.

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Edited February 23, 2016 by BookElitist

[lulee]

I think it was their first time but the storytelling was sloppy. At the beginning of the episode I inferred that Michonne walking around in a robe casually talking about toothpaste while Rick got dressed meant that they were a couple. I changed my mind later.

I think showing the morning with Michonne in a robe was to start the episode with a reminder of how much she's a full member of the household - she's not a guest - she's not a roommate - she's just part of the family with Rick and the kids like it's totally normal because it was totally normal.

 

And that normalcy got cemented, shall we say, in a new way at the end of the episode, but they began forming a unit back at the prison and continued on the road to Terminus, and at every point since then.

Edited February 23, 2016 by lulee

[TattleTeeny]

Uumm, I 'grew up' in The South, and I have nevuh evuh heard of nor encountered anyone who has used the brandname slang, Coke, as an universal/common term for soft drinks. I'm familiar with utilizing the name of the drink-- Coke--ONLY when one is 'quaffing' Coca-Cola.

 

Which means what--that it doesn't happen? I'm confused; several people here have recounted that it does. I'm not from the South and I've heard it.

Edited February 23, 2016 by TattleTeeny

[NoWillToResist]

Rick's out of practice and forgot to lock the door. Poor Carl might have been traumatized.

 

If Jesus can Houdini his way out of knots and climb onto the roof of a moving truck with no one noticing, I can't think a little ol' door lock would be an impediment. ;)

 

But...he had already seen Spencer and Michonne in the woods. He knew it should be Spencer who took care of Deanna, and he led her to Spencer so he could. Carl said as much to Michonne in their scene together on the porch. There was no imminent danger, all he had to do was lure her over to them. If Spencer was unable to perform the task, then Michonne would finish the job. I can't fault Carl here. I think he was feeling empathy for someone else who had lost his Mom under traumatic circumstances. 

 

What bothered me the most about this was that Carl wouldn't answer Enid's very reasonable questions ("What are you doing? We kill them!") in order to draw out the 'suspense' of the identity of the zombie for the audience. I figured it out as soon as he recognized the walker (and because Deanna was in the 'previously on' segment). There is literally no reason at all why Carl wouldn't have said "I'm saving the kill for Spencer; it's his mother..." except that TPTB wanted the "big" reveal later.

 

Spencer needed some redemption (perhaps to make it more palatable when he's hooked up with one of our regulars?), so he gets to show emotion and decency and love for his mother and blah blah blah. Don't care.

 

Maybe why Carol doesn't hang around him that much anymore, she doesn't like the smell.  

 

HA! Best explanation I've heard for the glaring lack of interaction between these two characters.

 

I'm neither here nor there with RIck and/or Michonne's sex lives, so them going there doesn't do a thing for me.  But can anyone explain to me why we spent a season or more on the Anderson family when nothing came of it?  We saw no reaction from Carol towards Sam's death.  No reaction from Rick toward's Jessie's death.  And no blowback from Michonne from having to kill Ron, a teenager.  So why even have them?  I

 

I mentioned to my husband that the Alexandrians remind me of the "Tailies" in LOST. Spent so much time on them and their stories, only to basically kill them all off, thus rendering the all the prior time spent on them, wasted.

 

I figured the show would do a time jump but I agree that it feels like a cheap cop out. I personally give zero fucks about Glenn/Maggie, but I feel bad for their fans because they didn't get to witness their reunion. We're long past any point in addressing the Sasha/Abraham/Rosita resolution and the Morgan/Carol issues. That said, the show does expect me to believe that Maggie has literally not had a conversation with Enid in x weeks, so maybe they'll pretend that all the other situations were in some random, out-of-time holding pattern and will still address them.

 

But the traumatic way that Jessie and her boys went down and all the events surrounding that...to just skip over the fallout from that? It's...bothersome to me.

 

I appreciated the lighter tone of the episode but I would have much preferred it had Rick and Daryl not behaved like idiots just so that the dots could be connected. Let me count the ways:

 

- there was literally no justification for ditching their perfectly good Bentley for the food truck. Having a back up vehicle would have been smart just in case the truck broke down (which is what happened); they could have then loaded the best of the merch into the car, driven it back to Alexandria and returned with others to scoop up the rest. It was just inconceivably stupid for them to put all their eggs in that basket.

 

- they RAN in the scorching heat in order to follow rubber tire tracks on the road. I'm no expert, but I'm pretty sure those weren't in danger of disappearing, so what was the rush?

 

- they attack him separately and are easily overpowered despite previously showing fighting skills

 

- after ditching Jesus off the roof, instead of leaving him like they had tried to do before, they ran after him to...accomplish what exactly? Why were they chasing him? Why did Rick leave the truck where he did?

 

- why would they bring this asshole back into their safe place?

 

- why wouldn't they put a sentry to guard him?

 

It was played for laughs (I think) but it rather missed the mark for me because of the amount of shit they could have easily avoided had they not been stupid.

 

I'm happy for the Richonne fans. I am neither for nor against the pairing; my major concern is that I liked Glenn and Maggie individually but have hated them both since they were hooked up (I find them painfully boring and uninteresting) and I'm so afraid that the same fate awaits Rick and Michonne...

Edited February 23, 2016 by NoWillToResist

[Tara Ariano]

In case you missed it, here's the Previously.TV post on the episode!

 

Road-Trippin' And Romance On The Walking Dead
Daryl and Rick find Jesus, literally, on a supply run.