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S06.E06: Always Accountable


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I don't know what the hell Abe was saying this entire episode, except the part where he started hitting on Sasha which I did not need to hear. 

 

I hope now Daryl gets over his lets trust everyone mode. He tried to help those stupid people and gets his crossbow and his bike stolen.

 

If that was Glenn, why couldn't we see how he survived instead of watching everyone talking nonsense?  

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For real. I can't get over how greasy it is. It seriously takes me out of the scene.

 

For me the problem isn't how nasty his hair is, but that I can't see his eyes half the time, which is a big no no.

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I love you Daryl!  Come here and I will patch you up!  

Sorry, I was screaming that in my head and had to let it out.

 

I think it has been awhile since I've heard the 3 questions - they still hold up.

Those people have no idea who they are messing with!  How could you not trust Daryl after he helped you!

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I thought the episode was OK. I didn't like how the part with Daryl and the 3 strangers ended up. Obviously we will see them again, either dead or alive, or undead, as Daryl has got to get his crossbow back.

Really pissed at AMC for holding the preview for next week back until the commercial break in the show that I will not name, or EVER watch now, out of spite. Show a little respect for your audience!

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What kind of crappy preview was that? I could barely tell what was going on.

Another problem with these divvied-up episodes -- the preview has no relation to what I just saw but is probably somehow related to what I watched last week.

Rick talking about blood on hands.

Maggie running

Carol holding Judith

Someone in a brown shirt with a gun back under his belt. (I think the build was wrong for it to be Glenn.)

Rick pointing a gun.

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I'm pretty sure this episode exists just to find a bazooka and a fuel truck.  At some point, someone is going to aim the fuel truck toward a zombie horde and then shoot it with a bazooka to make a really big boom.

Of course- that was the whole point of the guy telling the story of the burned up woods and the crispy walkers. How they were drawn to the fire and walked right in.

Hey Mr. Overly Anvilicious Exposition, I see you over there.

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So the guy did not kill people because you never go back and yet he can steal the weapons and vehicle of someone who helped him. Talk about warped morals. I expect he and that woman will be slaves or walker food next time we encounter them.

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Well, that was... an episode.  So this group that the doublecrossers came from apparently will kill anything moving.  One minute they seem to be plentiful in the burnt out forest, the next, we're doing arm amputation (but keeping the watch because you can't just get a watch anywhere).  I'm guessing the doublecrossers are from a society like Bartertown in Mad Max - as long as they have something of worth to trade they will be kept safe.

 

Does everyone watch TWD with closed captioning?  Because I didn't hear anything intelligible at the end of the episode.  I did get a major rapey vibe from Abraham.  That dude is seriously fucked up in the head and has been since his introduction - almost seems like a character from Dr. Strangelove.

 

Ok, AMC - you're really starting to piss me off.  First of all you show more commercials than any other network - then you tried to force me to watch that pile of poo that was "Comic Book Men" a couple seasons ago.  Now you delay Talking Dead so I'll watch Kung Fu meets Revolution.  No thanks. 

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This episode make the Morgan one look like Shakespeare.

 

For real. I actually liked that episode. It was a bit out of place in the line-up, but I would watch it 10 times before I'd rewatch this mess. At least the writing and acting was superb and there was some beautiful cinematography and music to enjoy. 


So the guy did not kill people because you never go back and yet he can steal the weapons and vehicle of someone who helped him. Talk about warped morals. I expect he and that woman will be slaves or walker food next time we encounter them.

 

Yea, there's actively killing someone and passively killing someone. He brought the insulin back and saved their friend's life, but it's cool to just take his crap and leave him stranded?

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 I don't want to live in a world where Daryl doesn't have a crossbow. 

 

I suspect we're okay.  Mess with the crossbow (or Michonne's katana)?  You will die, and the weapon will be returned.  (AMC is afraid we won't recognize characters without their signature weapons.)

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That person in the previews with the brown shirt and gun is 100% Ron. 


I suspect we're okay.  Mess with the crossbow (or Michonne's katana)?  You will die, and the weapon will be returned.  (AMC is afraid we won't recognize characters without their signature weapons.)

 

Well, apparently they can't kill without them. At least that's the case for Daryl. A walker's bearing down on him and instead of grabbing a stick or attempting to kick it or something he wastes precious moments by insisting he dig his crossbow out of the duffel bag. Stupid.

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I'm pretty sure this episode exists just to find a bazooka and a fuel truck.  At some point, someone is going to aim the fuel truck toward a zombie horde and then shoot it with a bazooka to make a really big boom.

 

 

Of course- that was the whole point of the guy telling the story of the burned up woods and the crispy walkers. How they were drawn to the fire and walked right in.

Hey Mr. Overly Anvilicious Exposition, I see you over there..

 

Well CDB needs someone to do their military planning for them - givien that they think that holding a parade constitutes good strategy.

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I suspect we're okay.  Mess with the crossbow (or Michonne's katana)?  You will die, and the weapon will be returned.  (AMC is afraid we won't recognize characters without their signature weapons.)

 

Yeah, but at some point we are going to have an episode from crossbow's point of view and the lesson it learns being wielded by a variety post apocalyptic people who couldn't hit a building from ten feet away before being reunited with Daryl.

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If they rescue "Glenn" where is he gonna sit? There's only room for 3 in the gas truck.

It depends upon how much of Glenn is left I suppose. I think Daryl proved this episode why Aaron, despite leaving his backpack, was/is a better recruiter for Alexandria. Daryl's not a people reader.

  I hate the idea of hookups in the ZA, BUT Abe looked good in that tight T, and they are both more recently showered than most, so I approve.

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I didn't understand why the guys in the truck confronted the group in the woods, and then turned around and...got back in their truck? Why didn't they attack right then? Why would they let the group out of their sight so that Daryl could get the whole group hidden somewhere. That could have been better edited..

 

I did wonder if they were trying to do some sort of Rick parallel with the group leader (Clay?) of the truck gang, who was only seen from the waist down from Daryl's POV. He had Rick's body type, cut off the limb of his injured friend, just like Rick has done, and was in general a calm, competent leader. Competent except for the whole losing the group they had just found, of course.... 

 

Has there been any foreshadowing whatsoever that Sasha and Abraham have an interest? This would have worked a lot better for me if I could think back to some look, some special moment, something where I could say, aaah, I see where they were going with that now. Instead, it's a thing because Abraham said so, and Sasha didn't deny. But it came out of nowhere.

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Really pissed at AMC for holding the preview for next week back until the commercial break in the show that I will not name, or EVER watch now, out of spite. Show a little respect for your audience!

AMC did this sort of shit in Breaking Bad's last season, for Low Winter Sun. The ads were relentless and I basically refused to watch the show on principle. I thought AMC learned their lesson from that; the show was cancelled quickly IIRC

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Well, apparently they can't kill without them. At least that's the case for Daryl. A walker's bearing down on him and instead of grabbing a stick or attempting to kick it or something he wastes precious moments by insisting he dig his crossbow out of the duffel bag. Stupid.

That scene went on WAY too long, as well as Abraham's "get in the Walter's face for no good reason".

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Daryl, I hate to say it, but sorry Pookie, you really let your guard down. I really miss the old Daryl. The cynical snarking and quick temper....the Dixon attitude he and my beloved Merle shared. 

 But he's so damn gorgeous and someone as handsome as him is hard to criticize. He rocked the hell out of that leather jacket and I went wild when he stripped down to that vest...SWOON!

 

So this was the 4th Carol-less episode in a row....I am really missing the lovely Melissa Mcbride. 

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Has there been any foreshadowing whatsoever that Sasha and Abraham have an interest? This would have worked a lot better for me if I could think back to some look, some special moment, something where I could say, aaah, I see where they were going with that now. Instead, it's a thing because Abraham said so, and Sasha didn't deny. But it came out of nowhere.

 

             And please, please let it go back to nowhere.

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@ Bentley....

Abe started trying to befriend Sasha during 5B, before they arrived at ASZ.

During their first night there, he stayed close to her.

That was shown when DeAnna came by, during her POV shot of then all together.

Wasn't anvilicious, but something was brewing between them.

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Obviously the writers are now taking LSD to help "write" their episodes.

 

The couple was smart to turn on Daryl.  You spend any amount of time with CDB - you will die. 

 

They were smart enough to take out a horde of Zombies with a match.  Tina died within hours of meeting a founding member of CDB.  They figured out Daryl would only bring them bad luck, and decided to cut and run while they still could. 

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Whenever I saw Abraham's face I was silently yelling "Shave that thing around your mouth!". Is it the zombie equivalent of a pornstache? As if his behavior wasn't unbearable enough for me.

 

If Sasha and Abraham were a perfume, they'd be Eau de What the Fuck.

Seriously, I'm not against ships, but what's with all the (imo) sudden random couplings these past episodes? 

And I must really like Sasha more than I thought for not crossing her, too, off my "good character" book. "Business to take care of", really? What a respectful and non-callous way of calling breaking up with his girlfriend, who is at least your comrade if not your friend. 

Spencer is an ass, but he has a hot one so go get dat ass, Rosita! Maybe you can even make him a good survivor. One who would be more interested in weapons than in cigars (now, if it had been wine...).

 

Look, more new characters whom I don't give a flying fuck about. Oh, joy. No, really, I'm rejoicing, I just hide it very, very well.

I found Daryl's scenes alone more interesting than those with these people, where I spaced out -and completely at times. I think there were two groups, some Wolves, and the crossbow and bike stealing rats? I'm barely getting to know who is who in ASZ already.

 

And come on, Daryl can be more badass than that. I'm not even talking of being overpowered by a couple of morons and too nice for his own good because Plot dictated it. But why did he kill the driver walker with a simple knife, whereas he could have smashed his head with the door of the truck? That's it's signature move! I was so disappointed because I thought that at least, finally, something exciting would happen, a reference to past awesomeness for lack of current awesomeness, a bit of splashy gore to spice things up, anything!

 

I hope it's Glenn on the radio, because learning he's dead after all the dragging would infuriate me.

 

In the previews, Judith is in Carol's arms, which is probably the safest place of the ASZ and maybe the world, so I have hope she'll survive whatever happens next week.

I agree that it's Ron in the brown shirt, little shit is up to no good. I would forgive this week's nonsense if Carol and Michonne made a casserole out of him.

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This show is really starting to lose me thanks to the last two episodes. And to think that I complained about the Morgan episode. And least that one had cute little Tabitha.

Why did Gimple think that this was a good way to plan out the season? Start with three action packed episodes. Then move on to Morgan's journey of self-actualization. Then we get an episode devoted to people in Alexandria that no one cares about...and Rick and Jessie's garage make-out session. Tonight, we get Daryl and his greasy hair with a bunch of rude strangers. And, if that wasn't enough, we also get Abe's unintelligible ramblings.

Meanwhile, Glenn is presumably still hiding under the dumpster. And Carol and Michonne have basically sat out the season.

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Thanks for the Abraham/Sasha history, MrsRafaelBarba.

 

Do you ship them, or do you just have a really impressive memory and attention to detail?  I never picked up the vibes, but I'll have to go back to see what you saw.

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Who were the shrink-wrapped people in the burned-out greenhouse and how did Tina know them?

 

I thought the most interesting scene was the one in which the walker soldier slipped off his moorings and left the rocket launcher that Abe had been trying to get from him. It's almost like he did that on purpose.

 

Please, Daryl Dixon, stop being stupid, OK? I like to think that he just wants to believe there are decent people left in the world, but he really should have never turned his back to those grimy extras from an old Spin Doctors video.

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That was Glenn's voice on the walkie? I didn't recognize it, except that it wasn't Rick.

 

Why does this show keep doing this - giving us case after case of human's being so stupid. Either not killing Walkers when they can or having a heart with stupid humans. If you don't kill the walker, the walker will kill you. Thought for sure it was curtains for Abraham. And how dumb for him, when clothing resources are low, to do something idiotic to rip up his clothes like that.

 

Short-haired blonde was an idiot too. The episode title should have been Always Idiotic.

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Didn't the guy and girl who took daryls motorcycle also take his other stuff? Did they take his radio? Maybe it was him who said help?

Possible, but I do think it sounded like Glenn! (Maybe wishful thinking lol) The idea of that burning woods guy calling up for help after he and that girl stole Daryl's bike and crossbow makes my ass itch.

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Thanks for the Abraham/Sasha history, MrsRafaelBarba.

Do you ship them, or do you just have a really impressive memory and attention to detail? I never picked up the vibes, but I'll have to go back to see what you saw.

Actually I thought Abe recognized that Sasha was suffering from PTSD.

And was befriending her out of concern, now it's revealed there's more to it.

Curious to see how this plays out, especially since he hasn't ended things with Rosita.

Plus Sasha didn't shut him down.

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