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It really is a testament to Eric's bad parenting, that his children feel it is all or nothing in order to feel accepted and loved by him. Why wouldn't a simple "I love you Rick, and have nothing but confidence in you" have been enough? No, Rick had to have an ironclad deal, giving him complete autonomy over Forrester, with the added bonus of Eric turning his back on Ridge. And Eric did it. All of it. He did it with gusto, nearly gleefully throwing every trifling thing Ridge has ever done back in his face. Do I have a problem with Ridge being called on his crap? Absolutely not, but don't stand in your son's face and start talking smack and throwing shade on stuff that happened five, ten, or twenty years ago, because it should have been dealt with when it happened. Oh, but wait! Eric was too busy enabling said son to bring him to task when the shit actually went down. This same competition existed between Thorne and Ridge, but Thorne is not Rick, who was also molly coddled by his parents, and feels even more entitled than Ridge if that is possible. Now, after years of Eric telling Ridge that blood doesn't matter, that he loves him like a son all the same, it appears that may not be the case.

I am also baffled by the changing culture at FC's. Eric is still blustering about it being all about family, but then in the next sentence goes on about how he will overlook anything if he keeps seeing profits like this. And all this focus on a husband and wife team leading the company? Really Eric? Ok, so for a few years in the beginning it was you and Stephanie, but then it was Brooke, and let us not forget the advent of Sheila, who played a big part in FC's for many years. So shut it already with all this talk about how you and Stephanie made this company and blah, blah, blah. And aren't you the fucking one who always told Stephanie to stay out of their kid's business? So what is up with trying to gift the CEO spot to Ridge if he will reconcile with Brooke? Then it was all about Rick and Caroline. Now it is all about Rick and Maya. Is it because Eric has always been a horny toad, and equates success with good sex? And by all that is holy, I could so sweetly, and resoundingly, smack this nonsense about "the CEO gets all the credit" crap, right out of Eric's mouth. As a designer, Eric knows better. Then again, Eric has always been a few ounces short of a pound, so maybe he doesn't get that the best CEO in the world ain't nothing without product to market. I don't understand why they are trying to destroy Ridge and Eric's relationship, but I know it sucks that it is happening because Rick needed his nappy changed and is still breast feeding.

Viewer - "I'll take Checkered Pasts for $600"

Alex T. - "Checkered Pasts for $600; ah, that is the Daily Double"

Viewer - "I'll wager it all Alex"

Alex T. - "Very well then, and here is the answer "Maya has a secret"

Viewer - "I'm too tired of hearing about it to friggin care?"

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Wow look at that,  Nicole has about as much class as her mother/sister Maya.  She's in the mansion all of one day and she's already acting like she's entitled to it all.  What a trifling little wench.  That said, I love her making Maya squiiiiiirm!  Payback is a bitch Maya.  

 

Poor Quinn,  I see heartache coming her way.  Brooke is always the poor victim who needs saving and clearly Deacon loves being needed,  he all but admitted in the meeting that he loved being able to help desperate Quinn.  Well you can't get more pathetic and desperate than Brooke.    I'm so over Brooke and her always needing a man to save her and her always getting him.   

 

Eric is clearly the biggest boob on the show.  So the numbers are up and it's all Rick.  It had nothing to do with the fashion line Caroline and Ridge rolled out.  Well the higher the perch, the higher the fall.   Rick is surely going to go splat eventually and when he finds out that his loyal and honest Maya has a secret she didn't share with him it's going to be a double whammy!   

 

I miss Caroline.   The show is just less sparkly without her and I need some sparkle.   

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Wow look at that,  Nicole has about as much class as her mother/sister Maya.  She's in the mansion all of one day and she's already acting like she's entitled to it all.  What a trifling little wench.  That said, I love her making Maya squiiiiiirm!  Payback is a bitch Maya.  

I couldn't possibly agree more!

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Rick is surely going to go splat eventually and when he finds out that his loyal and honest Maya has a secret she didn't share with him it's going to be a double whammy!

Oh, good. Then he can run back to Caroline to beg forgiveness to get the door slammed in his face.

....I would hope. More likely he'll have another shit fit and Maya will go simpering back begging forgiveness. Maya is bland as beige at best and a loathsome hypocrite at worst but I'm so over men never having their feet to the fire on this show, ever.

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Just caught up on last week and random thoughts:

 

Eric is now  damn near senile when it comes to Rick..  Someone needs to adjust his meds or something.  Where is Stephanie when we really need her?  My guess is spinning in her grave.

 

OK writers....spill the beans already on Maya's big sekrit.  As someone else posted by the time we find out we won't care or  be very shocked

 

Aly has hair to die for.

 

Love Ivy.

 

Hope LG is doing better and comes back soon.

 

Steffy can stay gone.

 

Deacon/Brooke and the AA stuff is not realistic as others have mentioned.  Writers, don't break up DeaQuinn.... tho I do love Quinn in revenge mode.  RS rocks!

 

I'm really liking Wyatt now that he's away from Hope.

 

Ridge and Carter in the same room?  Damn hot (even with their shirts on).

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I was just reading an article titled, How The Luxury Fashion Industry Became All Business.

And this reminded me what's going on at FC:

http://www.npr.org/2015/03/14/392788955/how-the-luxury-fashion-industry-became-all-business

 

I've taken Forrester Creations depicting a lux couture fashion house with a 50 lb bag of salt.

 

In reality, FC is a warehouse-size dress vendor with a couple of showrooms and some department store customers. They don't follow any standard fashion calendar, having the periodic marketing event at the drop of a hat. They have a formal dress line, might still have a lingerie and Men's line (men's hasn't been mentioned since the Boinkberry incident) and ready-to-wear (Hope For the Future) line. The majority of quasi-couture/ready-to-wear designers for women's wear produce six to eight seasonal lines a year. FC can barely get two down the catwalk without threats of bodily harm.

 

When Nick Morone and $Bill called Ridge "The Dressmaker," it was an accurate description. Forrester Creations has operated as a Mom and Pop storefront, not an organized corporate entity  -- upper management has always been in a constant state of flux, with the family members openly warring among each other in public and in the press. The management structure has been a bone of contention for most of Bn'Bs Soap history.

 

 FC is run like a neighborhood game of Kick the Can -- disparate and occasionally antagonistic participants, crude, rudimentary rules, at some point someone else is "It" and game starts again -- To the arrogant, delusional and inept go the accolades and the spoils.

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Well here's something else from the headlines. Wouldn't it make a great storyline if the little dictator said some to the press, (Jarad of Eye on Fashion of course), and some celebrity mounted a boycott of FC. Just like this:

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/16/victoria-beckham-elton-john-dolce-gabbana-gay-adoption-row

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/03/16/ricky-martin-ryan-murphy-and-others-show-support-for-elton-john-dolce-gabbana/

(Elton John boycotting Dolce and Gabbana)

 

Can't wait to see how this plays out.

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Are lawyers typically present at photo shoots?

 

Lol@Katie. "I'm here because I'm worried about Brooke. But let's talk about ME for several minutes first." Also, I'm going to rub my husband in her face under the guise of caring. Priceless.

 

Nicole is getting mighty irritating. She's making me feel bad for Maya, y'all. Talk me down!

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Are lawyers typically present at photo shoots?

Exactly. He has no purpose.

This is Nicole/Maya crap is clearly the result of the writers scrambling after LG's accident. Earlier spoilers indicated that Maya was into trying to get to know her sister and was even excited about setting her up with a guy. And though their first meeting was a little frosty, it thawed up pretty quickly with Nicole seeing that Maya felt like a fish out of water with Rick. There was a subtleness present in those first scenes that read as awkwardness between them, not menace. I know that many people assumed that Nicole had a secret about Maya when she first showed up (I didn't), but even if she did, it definitely wasn't this crap playing out now. Nicole scoffed at the idea of being a fashion designer, and wanted to be known for her talent in the field of computer science. She wanted to get away from her parents, same as Maya, and they commiserated a bit in that shared experience. She seemed like she was a hacker kind of "bad girl," not the blackmail kind. This set up is ridiculous, because, again, I could give a crap about the secret.

Pro-tip: please make the flesh colored panels of a peek-a-boo dress match the actual flesh of the person wearing it.

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My favorite line from today: "Brooke is a big girl. She can take care of herself." Says Ridge, the guy who ripped Bill's engagement ring from her finger, flew across the globe to stop her wedding on the flimsiest of excuses, and quite literally dragged her away from the ceremony. Oy. If only he'd taken his own sage advice back then.

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Not only is it strange that the lawyer is at the photo shoot, but where is the designer?  Shouldn't he/she be present.  And they were showing the jewelry, where was Ivy?
And while Rick is ruling with his iron fist, doesn't he question his mother's absence?  Has he questioned her drinking?
Too many gaps...
I do love how Nicole is pushing Maya's buttons right and left. 
A mansion as big as Forrester's and there are only 3 bedrooms?  (the master, and 2 others)  Didn't they raise 2 boys and 3 girls in that home?  Why does Ally have to share a room with Ivy?

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Are lawyers typically present at photo shoots?

I think lawyers are at photo shoots as often as lead models are at board meetings :)

 

A mansion as big as Forrester's and there are only 3 bedrooms?  (the master, and 2 others)  Didn't they raise 2 boys and 3 girls in that home? 

I've been contrasting this with As the World Turns.  Emma Snyder lived on a farm...by the end of the show practically the whole town lived at her farmhouse, and everybody had their own bedroom.  Hilarious to think that house was bigger than a mansion :)

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I think lawyers are at photo shoots as often as lead models are at board meetings :)

 

I never had a problem with Maya at the HFTF meetings, at least.  Like I said before, they seemed to have this whole young, collaborative vibe where no one was above anyone else and each section they represented was a vital part of the operation.  No one was handing out orders, but everyone worked together.  Maya would say stuff like, "On my last spokesmodel tour, this is the feedback I got..." blah blah blah.  When it started moving into board meetings, I kind of narrowed my eyes, but at least they set up a precedent for her being at meetings in the first place.  With Carter, it's like they just need to make sure LSV gets his contractually agreed upon episodes.  "Oliver says the light is leaving."

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And though their first meeting was a little frosty, it thawed up pretty quickly with Nicole seeing that Maya felt like a fish out of water with Rick. There was a subtleness present in those first scenes that read as awkwardness between them, not menace.

I agree, kia. This turn of events where Nicole is smugging it up over Maya's secret baffles me. I also dread the six months of circular, cryptic conversations between Maya and her sister that will surely take place before we get within spitting distance of the "secret."

 

Speaking of dreadful things, I cringed when Carter mentioned the age difference between Nicole and Maya, because I wondered if they might actually go with the "Nicole is Maya's daughter" crapola. As monumental an ass as Rick is, I don't think that would bother him.

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I also dread the six months of circular, cryptic conversations between Maya and her sister that will surely take place before we get within spitting distance of the "secret."

Agreed, it will be so long before the secret is revealed that a) we will no longer care or b) it will be stupid & disappointing.  I left out c) both of the above :)

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I friggin knew that Nicole wold want to be a model. I still don't think she is actually going to UCLA because she flunked out or got expelled.

If this is a fashion shoot than why was Oliver taking pictures only from the waist up. Anyone who knows photography would know that he was standing to close to the model to get full body shots and using a portrait lens. By the way, the blonde model was very pretty and looked a little like Caroline.

Maya to Nicole "If this is the way you treat family, than I don't want you in my life". Maya, it's Rick's home not yours and it's made of glass so stop throwing stones. No way is Maya Nicole's mother even with their age difference. Rick wood accept that as a secret and probably embrace Nicole even more. The secret has to be some kind of betrayal for Maya's loyalty is was drew him to her and he values the most.

Yes, Katie, take Bill with you to Brooke's and tell her you went to Aspen, on your honeymoon, to mark your territory. That will sit real well with Brooke and keep her from being lonely because then she could order 2 cases of Vodka.

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It was so nice that Aly & Carter were their to give their input with their knowledge & experience. It was funny to see the two model extras tower over contract model, Maya. Hopefully, the secret will get out soon. I'm almost feeling bad for Maya. The actress playing Nicole is doing a great job. I guess she'll hook up with Carter soon enough. Also, TK looked good today. When his hair is under control he looks awesome.

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This is pure speculation...someone (maybe Rick?) said something about Maya being a natural in front of the camera and Nicole snarked back, "she sure is." Could Maya's secret be a porn career while she was trying to become an actress? If so, that's kind of lame in 2015.

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My favorite line from today: "Brooke is a big girl. She can take care of herself." Says Ridge, the guy who ripped Bill's engagement ring from her finger, flew across the globe to stop her wedding on the flimsiest of excuses, and quite literally dragged her away from the ceremony. Oy. If only he'd taken his own sage advice back then.

Yeah, but if had then he wouldn't have been dumped out of Bill's helicopter onto his head and lost his ability to draw and needed Caroline's help and they get the hots for each other and we end up with the awesomeness (for some; I know not all love it) that is Caridge.

Ridge being a paternalistic prick and Bill being a violent jerk unexpectedly gave us one of the best Forrester Creations upheavals in quite some time with the bonus of a love to hate scheming couple in Rick & Maya and a hot fling/romance in Caroline /Ridge. And it seems he's learned his lesson: he leaving Brooke be to her own devices. When it begins affecting RJ then he's good to get back in her business.

And Katie is only needling him to jump back in it to keep Brooke's pile of woe from pulling Bill back into her orbit. Ridge ain't playing their games and I say good for him, LOL.

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Are lawyers typically present at photo shoots?

 

Carter might be there to protect Ridge and Caroline's interests by keeping his eye on the Rick and Maya's Rat Circus.

 

 

Lol@Katie. "I'm here because I'm worried about Brooke. But let's talk about ME for several minutes first." Also, I'm going to rub my husband in her face under the guise of caring. Priceless.

 

 Katie has been getting her jabs in since Brooke came back from Italy.

 

One woman's family ...

 

 

Nicole is getting mighty irritating. She's making me feel bad for Maya, y'all. Talk me down!

 

 I'm not unsympathetic, but being blackmailed by your own sister ... It couldn't happen to a nicer person. Since Nicole is cut from the same cloth, a swinging sock full of batteries wouldn't do her much harm.

 

Not to worry, Ninja. I just restocked the bar cart and put together some snacks ... We'll nosh a little and chat about Maya's SECRET. Was she a porn actress/singer/prostitute, a driver for a bank robbery, had an excessive number of parking tickets, drug mule, a mayor's former fuck buddy ... so many possibilities.

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I'm assuming her 'sister' is her daughter? but who cares? Honestly. considering where she done come up from and how Rick never minded none of that, unless Maya used to be male, or is Eric's secret daughter and Maya's known this whole time... I can't think of anything that would turn Rick away.

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I'm assuming her 'sister' is her daughter? but who cares? Honestly. considering where she done come up from and how Rick never minded none of that, unless Maya used to be male, or is Eric's secret daughter and Maya's known this whole time... I can't think of anything that would turn Rick away.

I'm right there with you thinking that Maya was born a man and her daughter, that she gave up, was adopted. I guessing it's going to be anti-climatic and kind of dumb. Rick will go off on Maya for no good reason like Nick went off on Sharon.

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Did you guys hear the news over the weekend that JMC got himself a Twitter account? @JohnMcCookThot. His daughter Molly set it up for him. The "thot" at the end has me confused, though - I thought it stood for "that ho over there"? Maybe it actually means "that handsome old timer".

 

Lol@Katie. "I'm here because I'm worried about Brooke. But let's talk about ME for several minutes first." Also, I'm going to rub my husband in her face under the guise of caring. Priceless.

 

For real. When she took the sheet off the painting of Caroline and was like, "What's going on here?", I wished Ridge had said "None of your goddamn bizniss"

 

I friggin knew that Nicole wold want to be a model. I still don't think she is actually going to UCLA because she flunked out or got expelled.

I think she said it just to get a rise out of Maya, as in, "Get Rick to install me as a model for FC and I'll keep quiet about your *~*~*secret*~*~*". I didn't get that she was being serious, it looked to me like she was saying it for shits & giggles.

 

Wake me up when something interesting happens.

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Where did those dresses come from? Hasn't Rick been rejecting all of Ridge and Caroline's designs out of hand?  And those did not look anything like couture; more like evening gowns. 

 

When did the FC's lead model become the "Face of Forrester?"

 

I can only speak for myself, but I will never, not even in a million years, feel sorry for Maya. I cringe every time I hear her say "this is my home", or "I have worked really hard to get here", because they are both blatant lies. I don't recall Eric bestowing, or gifting, or deeding the Forrester estate to Rick; what I remember is him telling Rick he could "stay there with Maya" in an effort to comfort Rick and to smooth his ruffled feathers. Maya sashays around trotting out these ridiculous statements as if she is a Forrester born and bred and has been contributing to FC's for years, when all she has done is be a spokes model for a short time, walk down the runway once, and now this photo shoot. Of course, I am not taking into account all the time she has logged on her back and in the bathtub, but I would consider those working hours as more about snaring Rick than FC's. I really don't care what Nicole's secret is, as long as it highlights that Maya is an opportunist of the first order. Not to mention a colossal hypocrite to be talking any kind of smack about anyone else's morals. 

 

Lookie here Katie, you just leave Ridge alone. He doesn't need to come to Brooke's rescue; you just want to stir up trouble for Ridge and Caroline by getting him worked up about Brooke. Ridge doesn't need to be involved until it effects RJ. And going to get Bill to help too? Jesus, could Katie be any more passive aggressive? Sorry Katie, you can go and pee all over Aspen, but it won't erase Bill's memories of being there with Brooke. And did I hear the ever cautious Katie say she had went rock climbing? Hmmmm........she sure didn't have any interest in that before, and called Bill out for wanting to do it. But Brooke has shone her the way to Bill's heart, and apparently Katie is taking her cues very seriously, and is going to be the "fun" wife now. Whatever. And I just wanted to smack the smirk off of her face when she pulled the cover away and saw the picture of Caroline and gave her backhanded compliment. Bitch can just stop acting like she ever really loved Ridge, because we all know that was a revengemance, and a ploy to hurt Brooke and get payback for Bill. 

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This is pure speculation...someone (maybe Rick?) said something about Maya being a natural in front of the camera and Nicole snarked back, "she sure is." Could Maya's secret be a porn career while she was trying to become an actress? If so, that's kind of lame in 2015.

And it would be a rehash of the Amber did porn storyline years ago where her heretofore unknown twin, April, showed up to save the day and "confess" (aka lie) it was her on those fine films. 

 

shudders thinking about AF in a dual role. 

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Where did those dresses come from? Hasn't Rick been rejecting all of Ridge and Caroline's designs out of hand?  And those did not look anything like couture; more like evening gowns. 

 

When did the FC's lead model become the "Face of Forrester?"

 

I can only speak for myself, but I will never, not even in a million years, feel sorry for Maya. I cringe every time I hear her say "this is my home", or "I have worked really hard to get here", because they are both blatant lies. I don't recall Eric bestowing, or gifting, or deeding the Forrester estate to Rick; what I remember is him telling Rick he could "stay there with Maya" in an effort to comfort Rick and to smooth his ruffled feathers. Maya sashays around trotting out these ridiculous statements as if she is a Forrester born and bred and has been contributing to FC's for years, when all she has done is be a spokes model for a short time, walk down the runway once, and now this photo shoot. Of course, I am not taking into account all the time she has logged on her back and in the bathtub, but I would consider those working hours as more about snaring Rick than FC's. I really don't care what Nicole's secret is, as long as it highlights that Maya is an opportunist of the first order. Not to mention a colossal hypocrite to be talking any kind of smack about anyone else's morals. 

 

Lookie here Katie, you just leave Ridge alone. He doesn't need to come to Brooke's rescue; you just want to stir up trouble for Ridge and Caroline by getting him worked up about Brooke. Ridge doesn't need to be involved until it effects RJ. And going to get Bill to help too? Jesus, could Katie be any more passive aggressive? Sorry Katie, you can go and pee all over Aspen, but it won't erase Bill's memories of being there with Brooke. And did I hear the ever cautious Katie say she had went rock climbing? Hmmmm........she sure didn't have any interest in that before, and called Bill out for wanting to do it. But Brooke has shone her the way to Bill's heart, and apparently Katie is taking her cues very seriously, and is going to be the "fun" wife now. Whatever. And I just wanted to smack the smirk off of her face when she pulled the cover away and saw the picture of Caroline and gave her backhanded compliment. Bitch can just stop acting like she ever really loved Ridge, because we all know that was a revengemance, and a ploy to hurt Brooke and get payback for Bill. 

So much word to all of this but especially the bolded. You know damn good and well that the last place Katie wanted to go was Aspen, the place where Brooke and Bill fell in love after she ham-fisted them into going there in the first place. 

 

This "new" and "improved" FUN Katie won't last. I give it a few weeks before she's harping on Bill again, especially if she sees him sniffing around poor recovering alcoholic Brooke. And I'm no fan of Ridge, but how insulting that now that she doesn't want him anymore (well, he didn't want her anymore either) as their revengemance had its desired purpose, she wants to use him yet again to bolster the apparently already-on-shaky-ground Batie 2.0 marriage and shove him into Brooke's orbit once more. This shows me she's the same trifling heifer she's always been.

 

As for Maya/Nicole, no matter how much of a nasty little snot Nicole is (and I'd like to wash the taste our of little sister's mouth right now), I'm not falling for the heavy-handed writing that is trying to manipulate me into mustering up some sort of sympathy for Maya. Not happening. It's not as awful as TPTB having the resident bitch be raped in a misguided attempt to get the viewers to warm to her, but whatever they're trying to sell here, I'm having none of it.

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This is pure speculation...someone (maybe Rick?) said something about Maya being a natural in front of the camera and Nicole snarked back, "she sure is." Could Maya's secret be a porn career while she was trying to become an actress? If so, that's kind of lame in 2015.

 

But we saw what happened when Caroline tried to trap Maya in porn: she immediately figured out what was happening, looked incredulous and scandalized and bounced.  It would be one thing if we only saw Caroline's set up and then, later, Maya talking to Rick about how she would never do something like that, but we never saw the meeting that transpired.

 

And that's the whole problem with this set up.  Caroline, later by extension Bill, moved mountains to find any dirt on Maya when Rick started sniffing around her and eventually made moves to leave Caroline for her.  They used the only thing they could find and it still didn't work.  Whatever secret they come up with will, 100% guaranteed, not make any sense.  Just like she basically hasn't made any sense since this turn.  They tried to reconcile it with her saying something like "When I was nice, people walked all over me.  Now I'm taking back my power" but it's still just leaving gaps all over the place.  Which is why I can't even say that she's opportunistic because if she was, she would have stayed her ass with Rick in the first place because he still wanted her even though he cheated with Caroline.  I guess I'm just supposed to forget her entire story arc in 2013 (except for Rodeo Drive, of course) for this to make sense.

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I'll be super annoyed if Maya's secret ends up being a porn past.  When Caroline was going mean girl on Maya when Maya was intent on being an actress, Caroline got Maya to show up to an audition for a porn movie (unknown to Maya). Maya didn't hesitate to say no, and there was nothing to indicate that her refusal was of the "No way am I going THERE again!" variety. ETA: I just saw that Kia discussed this above.
 
Also, I highly doubt Nicole will end up being Maya's daughter.  Unless the writers are dumber than I thought, last week's Maya and Nicole exchange of "I know your secret"..."What are you talking about, I have no secret"..."You do too"..."Do not"..."Do too" (and on & on) wouldn't make a whole lot of sense.  I'd think it would only be natural for Nicole to say "I know you're my mother" rather than the conversation ending with Maya pleading "Please don't tell."

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The only way that conversation could make sense is if Maya believed that Nicole never knew she was her mother (so their parents raised her as theirs and never told anyone), and Nicole came across the information somehow herself (or Mom or Dad got drunk and spilled one night or something).  But, still, you'd think that Nicole revealing that she knows would lead to some kind of conversation about it, not just Maya acting like a scared bunny and Nicole smugly posturing.

 

I didn't before, but now I kind of want Brooke to end up back with Bill.  It would serve Katie right at this point.  God she annoys me. What would she do then?  Go after Deacon?  

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Thanks, KerleyQ, for expressing the "Maya is Nicole's mother" speculation better than I did :)

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It would also make Maya look really shitty if her response to that isn't to want some kind of conversation with her and, instead, to see the child she gave birth to and called a sister her whole life as the enemy who needs to be shuffled out of the picture ASAP.  

 

I think the secret is going to be lame.  There's just no way it's not lame.  The only way I buy it making anything other than a momentary ripple in her relationship with Rick is if it is that she did know who Rick was before hitting town and was set on landing him for his money and power.  Even then, I think Rick is enough of an idiot to buy a placating "but I genuinely fell for you and I'd love you even if you didn't have a pot to piss in." 

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It would also make Maya look really shitty if her response to that isn't to want some kind of conversation with her and, instead, to see the child she gave birth to and called a sister her whole life as the enemy who needs to be shuffled out of the picture ASAP.  

Exactly.  I can see how it would be possible for Maya to be Nicole's mother with Nicole being in the dark about that, but Maya's reaction makes no sense.  Unless (and this is a stretch) this IS how it's going to play out, which WOULD make Maya look shitty, thus disputing the "you're so loyal and honest" crap Rick keeps shoveling.

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I think the secret is going to be lame.  There's just no way it's not lame.  The only way I buy it making anything other than a momentary ripple in her relationship with Rick is if it is that she did know who Rick was before hitting town and was set on landing him for his money and power.  Even then, I think Rick is enough of an idiot to buy a placating "but I genuinely fell for you and I'd love you even if you didn't have a pot to piss in." 

 

If that happened, the self in my mind's eye would throw her TV out of the window.  You mean to tell me that Maya just happened to glance on the schedule at Dayzee's to see that Rick was volunteering that day (a fact unbeknownst to him since he never went there and Eric signed him up last minute) and convinced that manager dude to ask her to sing once he got there because she knew that her voice was that of a Siren, luring any man who heard it within her clutches?  Because that's literally all that happened for Rick to become completely infatuated with her.  He saw her, heard her sing and it was done.  And please don't mistake me, KerleyQ, I'm not raging at you because this is exactly some shit that these writers would do.  I've lost all faith in them.

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If that happened, the self in my mind's eye would throw her TV out of the window.  You mean to tell me that Maya just happened to glance on the schedule at Dayzee's to see that Rick was volunteering that day (a fact unbeknownst to him since he never went there and Eric signed him up last minute) and convinced that manager dude to ask her to sing once he got there because she knew that her voice was that of a Siren, luring any man who heard it within her clutches?  Because that's literally all that happened for Rick to become completely infatuated with her.  He saw her, heard her sing and it was done.  And please don't mistake me, KerleyQ, I'm not raging at you because this is exactly some shit that these writers would do.  I've lost all faith in them.

 

I've been conditioned by years of watching Ron Carlivati (current GH head writer, former OLTL headwriter) to not expect eventual reveals to match up to what we've seen on screen.  So, yeah, this is the kind of shit they would do.  It also doesn't leave the porn thing out of the question either, just because Maya's reaction to potentially doing porn a year or so ago doesn't match up to that being her history.  Like I said, whatever it is, it will end up being lame.  I should have added "and, likely, insulting to the viewers' intelligence." 

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I didn't before, but now I kind of want Brooke to end up back with Bill.  It would serve Katie right at this point.  God she annoys me. What would she do then?  Go after Deacon?

 

Nah, my money would be on no strings sexy times with Wyatt -although Liam would make more sense and cause more devastation. But that's exactly why I don't want them to go there with Liam and Katie, the Liam/Bill bond is so awesome it is not something to be trifled with and ruined.

 

But Wyatt? She can still get some revenge and have some fun in the process.

 

And as a story it makes a little sense for Wyatt. Wyatt could be acting on some resentment issues towards Bill about abandoning his mother, favoring Wyatt, and also be in an anger 'doesn't give a damn' downward spiral over his loss of Hope and their son. Also Wyatt is supposed to be 'the most like Bill' and taking what he wants and damn the consequences even if it hurts his own family so this is is right in Bill Spencer's wheelhouse.

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I didn't before, but now I kind of want Brooke to end up back with Bill.  It would serve Katie right at this point.  God she annoys me. What would she do then?  Go after Deacon? 

I'm with you on that one. Any sympathy I once had for her is evaporated. You're not an ugly, geeky, pimple-faced girl anymore. You got the hot guy, one of the few men on this show that appears to have moved on from Brooke. Get the hell over it.

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The whole "gloss over psychosis" thing isn't unique to Rick. Remember how Thomas blew up Rick car that one time when he was dating Steffy? The show gave lip service to his being treated by James, but was never brought up after the recast.

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"Mime?" I would not blame Rick if he never forgave Maya. Some things are beyond the pale. The only thing worse would be Maya having a secret past as a clown.

I was quite repulsed by Brooke and Bill when it happened. I really don't know why. I think Katie needs her face cracked, but I'd rather see it happen without Brooke and Bill hitting the sheets.

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Just can't bring myself to blame Katie for rubbing Brooke's nose in it. Although Katie would be smarter to recall that if Brooke hadn't left the field, Bill would likely be married to her. (Brooke)  Bill would not have stopped pursuing and obsessing over Brooke, IMO till she did the unforgiveable (for now) by leaving him. 

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Katie not only peed all over Aspen but she saved a big bucket of pee to dump on Brooke's head. But I'm not sure if she really wanted to take the drink or just get Decon to her house. I'm sure we will find out pretty soon.

Ok, Nicole is not going to UCLA right now but she tried and couldn't make it. Nicole could have been going when she first came to see Maya and than quit but wanted to stay in LA after seeing Maya's digs. I'm a family first person, so I really can't understand why Maya would not want to reunite with her long lost sister. But from the start Maya didn't want any part of Nicole. Maya has no sense of family.

Maya's bitch face is priceless even more priceless than Rick's or Brook's squinty eyed stare.

I love that Rick had to run down to cutting because Ridge and Caroline where MIA. Than why, when Maya was MIA at yesterday's photoshoot, Rick didn't put on a dress, his heels, and get made up to take her place.

As an aside, I don't know what's the mystic about Aspen. There are many resorts in CO that are just as or more beautiful than Aspen. There is an old adage, though, about Aspen where rich people go to Aspen to be seen and rich people go to Vail not to be seen. I guess I answered my own question.

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OMG Nicole lied about being in college and her intentions!! I'm so shocked. JK I called Nicole not being enrolled in school a mile away.

Why the flip is Hopeless STILL in the opening credits?

Maya looked beautiful today. Was her zipper sewn on her dress crooked? Nicole's skirt was too short.

Some people make fun of Carter's yoked shoulders and pecs. But I wouldn't kick him outta bed. I like his body even if its buffed out.

How many x are Brooke & Katie gonna have the same convo of her giving her blessing. If Katie needs to keep bringing the issue up and Brooke keeps repeating this stuff the obviously none of them at ok with it. Maybe Bill since he's unflappable.

Quinn is going to blow a gasket when the truth about Brooke comes out.

Pam looked terrif today I loved the green dress and fit and pattern, the pearl beaded cardigan, accessories .

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