"The View": Week of 11/02/15

[AKA...CJ86]

OMG, ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Raven just said that her generation wants to know if Presidential candidates play Candy Crush????? 

Being the same age as Raven...this is what worries me.  This type of idiocy will be what my generation is/will be remembered for...I know many that are like Raven...but I promise fellow PTVers, we aren't all that bad...

Edited November 3, 2015 by CyberJawa1986

[onthebrink03]

 I just wish whomever wrote the blue cards wouldn't have repeated the same questions as 20/20 and asked something different.  Or you know, do some good work.  

Ah, you beautiful dreamer you.  At the risk of breaking your heart, you do know that Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny and The Tooth Fairy aren't real, don't you?  Unicorns aren't real either but you have a better chance of finding one of them than getting "some good work" out of this crew.  

[maggiemae]

Being the same age as Raven...this is what worries me.  This type of idiocy will be what my generation is/will be remembered for...I know many that are like Raven...but I promise fellow PTVers, we aren't all that bad...

Could not agree more Cyber.....and I am 68!

Raven is certainly not a good representative of millennials.

[ari333]

Well, I learned what, "grinder" means... or wait...maybe I'm still confused.

Edited November 3, 2015 by ari333

[Dissy]

 

What was that about?  Does anyone know?  Did the East Coast get the live version?    The interview  was obviously filmed today (everyone has the same clothes) but they pulled Sherri and put in Joy.

My guess is that the interview was done before the show started. Maybe Sherri didn't get there early but Joy was there? I had read somewhere that Scientology was trying to stop Leah's interviews and sending protesters. From things I have heard of other people who have left, some of the people of this "church" can be quite scary.

[Haleth]

The whole Fiorina brouhaha confuses me. Why is it that anything said on The View makes the news? Neither the show or any of these women is relevant. It's just background noise by a bunch of ill-informed performers. Of course Bitsy thrives on the overblown and overhyped, but why does anyone else care what stupid remarks these stupid women make?

[ginger90]

The whole Fiorina brouhaha confuses me. Why is it that anything said on The View makes the news? Neither the show or any of these women is relevant. It's just background noise by a bunch of ill-informed performers. Of course Bitsy thrives on the overblown and overhyped, but why does anyone else care what stupid remarks these stupid women make?

My theory is: This nonsense is supposed to distract us from all of the ACTUAL things going  on in the world around us.

[Cosmocrush]

Being the same age as Raven...this is what worries me.  This type of idiocy will be what my generation is/will be remembered for...I know many that are like Raven...but I promise fellow PTVers, we aren't all that bad...

No worries, CyberJawa1986.  I'm pretty sure Raven is an anomaly;  growing up in a bubble without ever attending a school (clearly, her "on set" education was lacking in many areas)  while supporting her family from the age of three and making enough money that she was rarely challenged on anything.   Those aren't factors for the average millennial woman.   On the positive side of that, I  do like Raven's confidence; but her complete and total ignorance on anything outside of Hollywood and social media is breath taking and outshines almost everything else. 

Edited November 4, 2015 by Cosmocrush

[Cosmocrush]

My guess is that the interview was done before the show started. Maybe Sherri didn't get there early but Joy was there? I had read somewhere that Scientology was trying to stop Leah's interviews and sending protesters. From things I have heard of other people who have left, some of the people of this "church" can be quite scary.

Oh this makes sense Dissy.     I've heard/read the same things about what this organization does to people who speak out.  On 20/20 they not only read a hand delivered statement from Scientology but didn't they show some video of protesters outside ABC too? 

 

And whatever the reason, I'm glad Sherri sat this one out.  I FF through the entire show except this interview but it appeared Sherri had her dumbass grin going for the duration of the Gloria Steinem interview.  

 

While I was at it, I FF through Monday's show to see Babs and noticed that Whoopi appeared to have on different pants than the ones she started the show in for the Bab's interview.  Was that "recorded earlier" too? 

[ari333]

I love Leah and feel happy that she escaped. However, was she dodging the subject of Cruise....? as in... he is off limits? Was it me?

[Bronzedog]

I love Leah and feel happy that she escaped. However, was she dodging the subject of Cruise....? as in... he is off limits? Was it me?

No. She did the same thing on the 20/20 interview. She started talking about him saying Katie Holmes wrote a report complaining about her behavior at the Tom/Katie wedding (apparently being a scientologist is like being in 7th grade and they report each to the church), and Leah said Tom should have been reported for the couch jumping, then she sort of back tracked and said it wasn't about Tom. It was also mentioned in the segment that Tom is one of the most powerful Scientologist, but, you get the power from paying the church 100s of thousands dollars.

[Tosia]

My son is 27 and was into candycrush last year. Is it still that popular? I thought not.

[Cosmocrush]

 

I love Leah and feel happy that she escaped. However, was she dodging the subject of Cruise....? as in... he is off limits? Was it me?

No. She did the same thing on the 20/20 interview. She started talking about him saying Katie Holmes wrote a report complaining about her behavior at the Tom/Katie wedding (apparently being a scientologist is like being in 7th grade and they report each to the church), and Leah said Tom should have been reported for the couch jumping, then she sort of back tracked and said it wasn't about Tom. It was also mentioned in the segment that Tom is one of the most powerful Scientologist, but, you get the power from paying the church 100s of thousands dollars.

 

I took that as she didn't want the interview/book tour to be overtaken by a discussion of Tom Cruise, which I could see happening being a much bigger name/star than Leah.  Then it's not about her book and her story anymore  - it's about Cruise.   

 

 

[Bronzedog]

I took that as she didn't want the interview/book tour to be overtaken by a discussion of Tom Cruise, which I could see happening being a much bigger name/star than Leah.  Then it's not about her book and her story anymore  - it's about Cruise.

That's very possible and probably true. But since Tom Cruise is the Scientologist poster child, he's what everybody wants to hear about. Why do I suddenly feel like someone from THE CHURCH is going to show up at my door?

[Celia Rubenstein]

The whole Fiorina brouhaha confuses me. Why is it that anything said on The View makes the news? Neither the show or any of these women is relevant. It's just background noise by a bunch of ill-informed performers. Of course Bitsy thrives on the overblown and overhyped, but why does anyone else care what stupid remarks these stupid women make?

 

Because they hate this show as much as most of us do, and for the same reasons - the panelists are often stupid, unfunny, ill-prepared, and generally just suck at their jobs.  But the people in the media can't really just come out and say that.  They have to have a "legitimate" cause to complain.  So when one of the panelists says something "offensive" about legitimate topic, they leap all over it.

 

In the case of Hasselbeck, of course, it is just her endless need to vent her bitterness and spite. 

[mongoose]

Ah, you beautiful dreamer you.  At the risk of breaking your heart, you do know that Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny and The Tooth Fairy aren't real, don't you?  Unicorns aren't real either but you have a better chance of finding one of them than getting "some good work" out of this crew.  

SPOILER ALERT!

[TheGreenKnight]

Being the same age as Raven...this is what worries me.  This type of idiocy will be what my generation is/will be remembered for...I know many that are like Raven...but I promise fellow PTVers, we aren't all that bad...

Nicolle Wallace would've thought so! That's why I'm glad she was shown the door. I don't think I could have dealt with her and Whoopi laughing about how all young people are as stupid as Raven, or that their generation is somehow superior, for another year.

 

I'm actually three years younger than Raven. And while I have my flaws--like bitchin' about The View, for instance--I'm grateful that I have almost nothing in common with her.

 

Cosmocrush, on 03 Nov 2015 - 2:02 PM, said:

What was that about?  Does anyone know?  Did the East Coast get the live version?    The interview  was obviously filmed today (everyone has the same clothes) but they pulled Sherri and put in Joy.  Also, Whoopi was able to speed read the written statement from Scientology flawlessly.  Since this show rarely edits for quality (see Whoopi's, "I HAVE TO PEE" exit from the stage last Friday)  I'm wondering if it was a schedule situation or they just messed it up so bad they had to do it over??  Isn't it weird Joy would be there for Leah but not Gloria?

 

Maybe they recorded so they could cut anything that might get them or Leah into legal trouble. I wouldn't be surprised if it was recorded yesterday, with everyone picking out their outfits for the next day, just so they could the people behind-the-scenes could go over it before it aired.

 

I know there is a very thin line between any religion and a cult, but I don't feel wrong in saying that the Church of Scientology is definitely the latter. All that secrecy--not just to the outside world, but even to members of the Church--and talk about "power" is very disturbing.

[Celia Rubenstein]

It is a shame the powers that be seem to have selected Raven to be the panelist representative of the millennial generation.   They are a tech savvy bunch, to be sure.  But there is a lot more to them than video games, facebook, instagram, and twitter.  But to hear Raven talk, you'd never know it. 

[Haleth]

Raven is extremely immature.  It's hard to believe she's almost 30.  Paula isn't that much older (I'm guessing) but there is a world of difference in how they present themselves.  Raven's constant giggling is annoying.

[lookeyloo]

Raven is doing what ABC wants.  Making waves that we are talking about.  Lots of people watch just to see the idiocy of the show, but they are still watching.

[ari333]

I took that as she didn't want the interview/book tour to be overtaken by a discussion of Tom Cruise, which I could see happening being a much bigger name/star than Leah.  Then it's not about her book and her story anymore  - it's about Cruise.   

 

 

 

 

Good point.  I didn't think about it like that. I also was hesitant to assume that she was afraid of only Cruise since she is so vocal in general . I mean, I didn't see why she'd leave Cruise out of the criticism bc it seemed she was going after everything, But yeah it could go ALL TOM and her book and other points may get lost by hosts in  the pursuit of  dishy Cruise bits. I was a little shocked that she gave the church some credit for some of her positive personality traits  though.. I cant recall what she said exactly, but I remember being surprised. 

[fl2dc]

 

Paula isn't that much older (I'm guessing)

 

Paula just turned 40 last week.

[ari333]

Paul looks very young. Wow. I would have guessed 29 or 30; but I have not seen her closeup or on HD. :)

 

Raven gets on my nerves so much I have to mute her. I just cant take it.

[backformore]

Yesterday's show -   I had assumed that when Jimmy Kimmel had parents "trick"  kids into thinking the parents ate their candy, they then revealed that they had not, and gave the kids the candy back.   If not, then it really is a cruel joke. 

But Sherri is another story.   She takes Jeffrey to how many apartments, to teach him to "work for what you want"  ,  then she eats his candy and tosses the rest, or donates it or something.  I get not wanting your kids to have massive amounts of candy.   When my kids were little, I took them out on Halloween, we went around our block, so we were basically going to the neighbor's houses, and then we went home, and passed out candy to the neighbor's kids who came over.  Nothing excessive, but I let them eat the candy, save a little for the next few days, and share with their parents.    

(I also had a kid with an allergy, so I had to exchange his candy for the nut-free stuff I bought)  

But  the lesson, according to Sherri,  is if you really want something, you work hard for it, and then your Mom will take it away? 

 

Raven's view of trick or treating is that she went to look at the glamorous houses that would one day be hers?   For a moment I was sad for her, that her mom tried to instill that in her.  Added to her comments a day or two ago, about "having to work for a living since I was three years old!"  brought a little understanding  of how she became the fucked-up person she is. 

Even when she talked a day or two ago, about how little kids NEED to know how to use IPads and cell phones so they can fit in, is a pretty ignorant point of view  Yes, the average 3 year old can learn to play candy crush.  So what?   3 year olds need to learn social skills on a face-to-face basis, much more than they need to learn how to "swipe"  and "click"  on a phone or Ipad. 

Edited November 4, 2015 by backformore

[Wings]

SPOILER ALERT!

 

Hysterical! 

[mbutterfly]

The whole Fiorina brouhaha confuses me. Why is it that anything said on The View makes the news? Neither the show or any of these women is relevant. It's just background noise by a bunch of ill-informed performers. Of course Bitsy thrives on the overblown and overhyped, but why does anyone else care what stupid remarks these stupid women make?

I think politicians use comments on The View to get themselves publicity. And I think the women on The View are encouraged to make such comments for that reason, too. 

[JAYJAY1979]

I went out trick or treating till I had gobs of candy...then gave my mom and dad their favorite candies...had a few pieces then stuck the rest in the freezer where I was allowed two pieces per week on saturday during saturday morning cartoons. I had candy till April with this method.

What sherri did..I'm not sure how I feel about that. I'm just glad she's burning thru her 50 show a season gurantee quickly.

Raven...an example of how being a child actor can hinder you in some ways. U don't care if my president plays candy crush..I want a president who can be moderate and work with both sides.

Michelle bought up q good question...when will the gop candidates drop out? 15 is too many lol. Just when I write her off, she occasionally comes up with a logical point. She's like debbi M to me..her mannerisms and her almost valley girl speak.

[TheGreenKnight]

I can't believe they have all these co-hosts and contributors, and they still have to get someone else to fill a spot. I bet Sherri was sitting at home, pissed about losing another chance to be on TV.

 

The only part I watched attentively was the Joy/Paula interview. I don't know much about William's wife, but it was a good interview at least.

[Tunia]

They've really been juggling their "live" schedule this week haven't they?

 

Yesterday we had the pre-taped interview with Leah Remini, with Joy there but not on the show itself later.

 

Today was supposed to be Susie Essman talking about Joy's new show, but with Joy out "sick", that didn't happen.  Instead we get the Susan Williams interview which was scheduled for Friday on tape, again with Joy.  When did they tape this?  Joy was off today, but Paula was wearing the same dress she had on today.  If they taped it yesterday originally for showing on Friday, how did Paula wear that dress, not knowing it would be shown today?  She would have been wearing the dress planned for Friday's show. 

 

AND, besides, what's with all the taping/pre-taping?  It's supposed to be a live show, damn it!

[Bronzedog]

I'm at work and had the tv on, but, I was just kind of listening. What was Robin Williams' wife's point? He didn't commit suicide, the disease killed him, or, he wasn't in his right mind because of the disease and he killed himself? I remember that's the same disease Estelle Getty of the Golden Girls died from. Horrible.

[mongoose]

Hysterical! 

Aww, thank you.  All I could think of was that she spilled the beans!

Joy's not there again?  Just started here.

 

[backformore]

today's show in my area was pre-empted for coverage of a press conference about an Illinois police investigator who had died of a gunshot after making a radio call that he was being chased by three men.   After an elaborate manhunt and investigation, it was found that he had staged his suicide to look like he died on the job.  the whole thing was to cover up  his crimes of embezzlement.   

 

The most interesting part of the story to me, is that the original story, police man killed by Black suspects, was used by Fox News as an example of the "War on Cops"  and then  blamed Obama for not  coming out and saying that attacks on the police will not be tolerated.

Oops! 

[ChicagoCita]

Preemption here too. Huge local news in the Chicago area. To see this man lionized as a hero at the time of his death, then see the county coroner scolded a few weeks later for saying he couldn't rule out a suicide, to today's news that the man was a criminal and created an elaborately staged suicide ... it leaves me literally queasy.

 

I'm sure there are going to be repercussions for months, but right now all I can think of is his family, first to go through what they thought was a job-related murder of their loved one, and now finding out he was an embezzler and a suicide has to be emotionally devastating, not to mention all the horrible financial aspects of it.  (My cousin's husband killed himself, and it really is true that insurance companies restrict their payouts in those circumstances. She had to go to court to get his social security benefits awarded to her, lost her house, etc.)

 

Not View-related, but I'll be interested to see if they bring it up. At this point, the story is on the national news sites.

 

No winners here, just endless sadness.

[Tunia]

Take solace in knowing, backformore and ChicagoCita, that you really didn't miss much today.  Hot Topics was/were a mess and the Susan Williams interview wasn't much better.  Everything was very disjointed and patched together. 

 

I think they threw in the Williams interview at the last minute b/c Joy was out and the Susie Essman segment didn't happen.  I wonder if the SE segment will air on Friday or if they'll just drop it.  I'd imagine the point of SE being on today was to preview the premiere of Joy's new show tonight...if she's there on Friday, it's an afterthought.

Edited November 4, 2015 by Tunia

[ari333]

I love Robin Williams since the Mork days and his death hit me hard. I knew he had had heart problems and some surgeries, but I had no idea about severe depression. It is all so sad. What a loss. Too soon. I also had no idea about Lewy body dementia. Something made him feel bad enough to hang himself which is heartbreaking. (If I understood correctly) His tragic death has brought this disease to the forefront, so that's something . I had never heard of it before.  SAD.

Edited November 4, 2015 by ari333

[CheezyXpressed]

Raven...an example of how being a child actor can hinder you in some ways. U don't care if my president plays candy crush..I want a president who can be moderate and work with both sides.

I agree with this, not only with the issue about Candy Crush, but with a lot of what she says. She grew up with stardom and privileged, so she can't really connect with some of the topics that are going on because she never really thought of them before. When they were talking about the police officer throwing the kid around, she was very much pro-cop, which seems weird since she's black and most would assume that she'd understand the plight of black people. But she doesn't, because even though she is a minority there's still a bit of privileged there.

With Candy Crush....I've never played it, because the idea of paying money for lives seems stupid. But I've played the mock offs and  they were fun. I don't really care of the president or prime minister plays it though.

 

Just to add, I thought it was funny that Sherri was the only one who understood Paula's point about the debate not asking proper questions. Whoopi went on a rant about candidates not answering hard questions, which wasn't the point. Michelle just talked about candidates dropping out, which is true. Raven...just talked about Candy Crush.

Edited November 4, 2015 by CheezyXpressed

[NewDigs]

It has been said that child/tween stars' development stops at the time of their biggest wave of popularity. They kind of just stay that age and Raven appeas to fill that slot. Britney, Justin, Lohan et al just never really mature.

Candy Crush for the POTUS? Good grief. That's worse than a beauty queen's peace-for-the-world answer.

Edited November 4, 2015 by NewDigs

[pachebo]

looks like ABC totally scrubbed the leah remini interview from their site (those crafty scientology lawyers hard at work, as usual).As a former member of that "church", i can say they are capable of any measures to suppress any criticism, and it's usually litigious. As usual, ABC caves!

[NewDigs]

Bastards!

Hey, if they can beat the IRS into submission...

[Vinyasa]

Raven...just talked about Candy Crush.

 

Raven just go away. You're getting close to making Bitsy look smart.

[pachebo]

let's see if yoda whoop wags her fingers at Scientology... oh wait, what universe am i living in???

[ari333]

looks like ABC totally scrubbed the leah remini interview from their site (those crafty scientology lawyers hard at work, as usual).As a former member of that "church", i can say they are capable of any measures to suppress any criticism, and it's usually litigious. As usual, ABC caves!

 

WHAT? REALLY? What chicken shit wussies... omg... really?

[GHScorpiosRule]

I'm really tired. Suffering from the worst case of insomnia ever. I can't remember the last day in the past three weeks where I've gotten a decent night's sleep.

 

Anyhoo because of that, I'm too tired to quote posts, but will say this:

 

Raven being a child star and turning into this idiot doesn't pass muster with me. Because Keshia Knight Pulliam was also a child star, and she's turned out to be an intelligent person.  Hell, she even responded to Raven't moronic statement about how if you have a "ethnic" sounding name and used "Watermelonia" or whatever as an example, Keshia came back with a thoughtful response and made me wish the The Asshats in charge would have gotten her as a panelist instead of Raven.

 

The news about Robin Williams suffering from depression isn't new; it came out almost immediately after his suicide. The Lewy diagnosis is new, I think, but not him suffering from depression or that he'd gotten the news he had Parkinson's.

 

As for Candy Crush? Please. It's a FREE game. As someone else posted above, all one as to do is wait nine minutes to play again after using up their lives. And I play it. I also play Criminal Case. Sue me.  But Raven's comment about how the leader of the United States should know how to play it? She just gets nuttier and nuttier.

 

I saw the documentary that HBO did on Scientology, and it scared the bejesus out of me. So I have nothing but respect for those that got out and don't blame them if they can't or won't talk about certain things or Tom Cruise.  That fucking Cult doesn't fuck around.

[Tunia]

looks like ABC totally scrubbed the leah remini interview from their site (those crafty scientology lawyers hard at work, as usual).As a former member of that "church", i can say they are capable of any measures to suppress any criticism, and it's usually litigious. As usual, ABC caves!

It's still on their website, pachebo.

[Morgalisa]

I have a Whoopi-induced headache.

[maggiemae]

I'll raise you a migraine headache from Raven and Michelle......

[athousandclowns]

I had  not heard of Williams illness either so looked it up. Mercy it is brutal. You can be ok then have hallicinations. Insomnia. It is often not diagnosed since it mimics dementia and Parkenson's  They become sensitive to medication that would be given for depression making it worse.  My mother always so a resemblance between my husband and him so it hit me had also.

Leah has said that she had previously joked to Tom about "get a room" when he was showing over the top PDA to Katie.

 

My cable is down so will miss Joy's show but because it's with Sherri, maybe that's ok..

 

[Fisher King]

Found the Leah 20/20 bit. No commercials!

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeeOgjTOADU

Edited November 5, 2015 by Fisher King

[Fannysue]

My cable is down so will miss Joy's show but because it's with Sherri, maybe that's ok..

 

I am watching Joy's show right now and it is funny.  .  It was like being a fly on the wall when a group of girls are talking!   I enjoyed it!

[Former Nun]

Hell, she even responded to Raven't moronic statement about how if you have a "ethnic" sounding name and used "Watermelonia" or whatever as an example,

 

 

That actually wasn't Raven's example.  She did repeat that name, but she was commenting on a video shown immediately before that.  Two boys made a video listing several outlandish (in their opinion) names, including Watermelondrea.