S10.E18: Satan Loves Confusion

[answerphone]

I'm having trouble choosing the most disgusting moment tonight. There's just so many to choose from!

[swankie]

That was some old school Bobby Brown/Whitney Houston love with David going up there to fish it out.

 

 

Kadooz to you for this reference Islandgal140!  This is exactly what flashed in my mind when David said he tried to fish that thing out of his wife's ass.  "Doody bubble" just seems so much more romantic!  Lol!   R.I.P. Whitney! 

Edited October 6, 2015 by swankie

[Htm222]

yeah Briana had her thyroid removed, plus she recently had a kid. Her boobs are huggggge though.  I loved Tamra telling vicki she tried to convince Briana to be ok with Brooks.  Bitch, please. This whole thing is your fault.

[WireWrap]

Shut up, Meghan!

Dammit, it looks like Tamra's baptism is going to be this season's "finally". Please shoot me!

So Brooks has pancreatitus, not pancreas cancer? Hmm.

Am I the only one who rolled his eyes when Tamra and Heather claimed they had already suspected Shannon's husband had an affair but kept quiet about it?

Well, Brooks ex GF claimed that he has made 2 other claims of cancer, NOT NHL though, that were lies so I have no problem believing Briana that he tried to say he had Pancreatic Cancer until she busted him by asking logical medical questions. Which sounds oddly familiar to what we are hearing this season.

 

On WWHL tonight, during the Beador interview, Shannon confirms that Heather did in fact know about the affair and that she told NO ONE, including Terry. For some reason, I have no trouble believing that Heather kept quiet about it, it seems that she knows the Affair as well.

 

I think her thyroid issues contribute to her weight gain.

But yes, if you want to spend time in a park you can find one, especially if your mom gives you car to get there.

Briana said that they don't have MANY parks, not that they don't have ANY. LOL I think she likes to take the boys to different parks to play.

[njbchlover]

I think her thyroid issues contribute to her weight gain.

But yes, if you want to spend time in a park you can find one, especially if your mom gives you car to get there.

 

 

 

 

Brianna has had thyroid problems for quite a while.  She had a thyroid cancer scare a few seasons ago and had her thyroid removed but the tumors weren't cancerous.

 

Thank you for reminding me of this - I will go and edit my post.  It was not fair of me.

[breezy424]

Maybe it's just me but if I had a problem with something stuck in a 'place' that's really private, I'd go to the ER before I'd ask my husband to go on a expedition mission because if I was asked to that it would take a long, really long, time to get that image out of my mind.  But that's just me.  And I certainly wouldn't share it on national TV.  And then we have to see the cleaning of the fingernails.  TMI.  But I love that Shannon has the enema paraphernalia but doesn't know how to use it.  Geez, if you're going to have 'that' but not disposable gloves, what can I say..... 

[answerphone]

And Shannon did that enema right before going somewhere in a white dress. Is she brave or stupid?

[Maharincess]

I wish this was written in English so I could understand it.

Captain TryTooHard. Edited October 6, 2015 by Maharincess

[Almost 3000]

I actually didn't get what Shannon did. She thinks she got the tip end of the enema tube stuck in her bum but then she takes a different portable system from Dr. Moon to use to flush whatever was stuck. Then she says whatever it was in the toilet but David seemed to have helped somewhere along in the process. What the heck was she using that got stuck if she had Dr. Moon's system that she didn't know how to use in the first place. I'm confused.

[ivygirl]

They really should have called this episode "Keep Your 'Friends' Close, and Your Enemas Closer."

[happykitteh]

I actually didn't get what Shannon did. She thinks she got the tip end of the enema tube stuck in her bum but then she takes a different portable system from Dr. Moon to use to flush whatever was stuck. Then she says whatever it was in the toilet but David seemed to have helped somewhere along in the process. What the heck was she using that got stuck if she had Dr. Moon's system that she didn't know how to use in the first place. I'm confused.

 

I don't know anything about these kind of devices but one would think something that goes up your butt would be a solid piece and not have removable parts that could come loose and get lodged up in there. Or maybe Shannon put it together incorrectly and inserted the wrong end.

[Bebecat]

Icky is a lunatic. Where did she get all of this Satan crap from all of a sudden? I really can't handle her on my screen. She created the monster that is Brianna and they deserve each other. Icky has to know that Tamra is as big a liar face as she herself is, liars always recognize each other. So they just carry on boldy lying to each other frozen, stiff, weird-azz faces. They deserve each other too.

Honestly, Crookes is about the least offensive person on this show to right now, regardless,of whatever antics he is pulling. At least everyone knows he is basically a con man. The rest pretend to be "normal" people.

So,did Heather and Tamra know about the affair before Shannon did? That was unclear to me. If they did, not sure how that works with the infamous "girl code". I thought you were supposed to tell a close friend if you knew something like that, though it is always dangerous to be the bearer of those tidings. Not really sure which way is correct. And did they voth truly keep it to themselves?? That is almost unfathomable to me.

[Muffyn]

The highlights for me:  Vicki saying she feels like she is on a circle jerk while on a kid’s train; she is at her best when she is clueless.

 

The look Tamra gave Heather when Shannon told them about David’s affair was priceless.  If ever there was an acknowledgement that those two have dished the dirt of the Beador affair, this was it. 

 

Thanks to Shannon for the laughs of the night.  Her whining about doing an enema was so funny.  David looked horrified when she was heading into the bathroom.  Before big events I like to fill my ass with water, whether through a colonic or an enema, just so I can increase the possibility that some water will leak out while I’m out with friends.  Nothing says party (or pasteurization) like anal leakage. 

 

I think she did a colonic with an at home device she got from Dr. Moon.  She thought a plastic piece was lodged in her ass, so she gave herself an enema to try to flush it out.  At least that’s what I fingered, er, figured out from what she said.

Edited October 6, 2015 by Muffyn

[WireWrap]

So,did Heather and Tamra know about the affair before Shannon did? That was unclear to me. If they did, not sure how that works with the infamous "girl code". I thought you were supposed to tell a close friend if you knew something like that, though it is always dangerous to be the bearer of those tidings. Not really sure which way is correct. And did they voth truly keep it to themselves?? That is almost unfathomable to me.

According to Shannon, everyone knew before she did, all of them and no one told her, not even her good friend Vicki. At the end of last season, neither Tamra or Heather were on good terms with Shannon so telling her would have come across as cruel IMO. Shannon also confirmed that Heather knew the other woman and that she did not tell anyone, including Terry. From the previews tonight, even though Vicki said she told no one, it appears she did in fact tell someone else, which is why their friendship ended.

[charming]

Did Jim...Jim Edmonds tell Meghan she lost half her prettiness when she took off her fake eyelash?

[athousandclowns]

Maybe it is a big industrial colonic machine on lease from Dr. Moon that has disposable tips like a thermometer.

Either way I agree the husband would not be going on any exploration trips. 

 

Ok I am going to go over to read Vicki's statement of how over she is of Brooks. When Brianna said when she first met Crooks he said he had pancreatic cancer but had to back down when she asked about his treatments is the final straw for me.  If you can lie about such a thing as pancreatic cancer (the most brutal of cancers) they both can go to Hell with Satan. I hope she NEVER finds anyone to fill her love tank, she does not deserve it.

 

You guys have made me laugh out loud with your posts.

Edited October 6, 2015 by athousandclowns

[Htm222]

agreed re Brooks being one of the least offensive people on the show.  He is actually comic relief to me to some extent, since he is so transparently full of shit, and the rest of the stuff between the women gets so nasty and dark.  Crooks has been performance art to me from the beginning (bomb.com bro !!

Edited October 6, 2015 by Htm222

[Maharincess]

Well....no, not according to Heather (and we know who wears the pants in that family, clearly!!)

I'm sorry - I thought that was one of the most tasteless things to come out Terry's mouth, ever - because he said that comment to his "tween-aged" son, who, sure as hell knew what his Dad was talking about!! For a minute, I thought I was watching RHNJ and listening to Joe Gorga!!

I loved it. That's how my family is. We were always open and honest and made jokes about sex all the time. In my opinion it's much better than uptight parents who are too uncomfortable to discuss sex with their kids and simply tell them not to do it.

I love that they joke about sex openly. It won't hurt the kids and in my opinion will only help them in the long run.

I love the Dubrows and that scene made me love them even more. I enjoy their relationship.

[zoeysmom]

Vicki has changed her mind:  http://starcasm.net/archives/330972

 

I am deeply saddened Evolution is considering a spin off.  Unless she leaves RHOC.

[Miss February]

The highlights for me:  Vicki saying she feels like she is on a circle jerk while on a kid’s train; she is at her best when she is clueless.

 

Because she often plays dumb when she's trying to act cute for attention, I didn't believe that Vicki didn't know what that term meant.

 

Was Meghan actually confused about a 17-year-old deciding not to accompany her to a 50-year-old stranger's baptism?

 

Shannon's incorrect use of "David and I" (instead of "David and me") was in overdrive tonight.

Edited October 6, 2015 by Miss February

[ebkitty]

Oh please don't let Vicki's spin-off have Ryan and her daughter moving back in with her,or even being in the spin off, they're the worst, boring mean couple ever!!

[DebbieM4]

Maybe it's just me but if I had a problem with something stuck in a 'place' that's really private, I'd go to the ER before I'd ask my husband to go on a expedition mission because if I was asked to that it would take a long, really long, time to get that image out of my mind.  But that's just me.  And I certainly wouldn't share it on national TV.  And then we have to see the cleaning of the fingernails.  TMI.  But I love that Shannon has the enema paraphernalia but doesn't know how to use it.  Geez, if you're going to have 'that' but not disposable gloves, what can I say..... 

 

My first thought was the ER too.  Not only because of the reason you gave (!), but also he could have done more harm than good if something was really stuck.   Overall it would have been a much better idea to go to the ER.  What stops a lot of people from doing that is the embarrassment.  However in this case, what did she really have to lose?  It was already happening with cameras in her house & a good chance it would be aired on national television!!   

 

And yes, since they're trying to put the romance back into their marriage, I think the whole "lets-see-if-David-can-retrieve-it" idea was ill-advised.  There was no way that was going to end well, not re the plastic thing & not re their sex life.

[straightshooter]

Unbelievable.  For Vicki to compare herself to Jesus is absolutely despicable.  She is an utter disgrace. 

 

If she has such a vast knowledge of all things Satan, how is it that she missed the pitchfork and horns her near-death roommate has been rockin? 

 

Disgusting.  I hope to God she's gone for good. 

[ChelleGame]

That thing with Shannon? Did that really happen? I'm starting to think I'm not as close to my husband as I should be.

 

 

Oh, man, this just had me laughing. Thank you.

 

That scene was straight-up crazy. I almost blacked  out watching him surgery-scrub his hands in the kitchen sink. Why wasn't he in the bathroom or out in the yard with soap and bleach?!  These people. Somewhere his mistress is drinking and laughing and laughing and laughing. Good lord.

Edited October 6, 2015 by ChelleGame

[yourmomiseasy]

The editing on the Shannon has something stuck up her ass scene was amazing.  I don't know if it is how it really happened in real life, but David just nonchalantly picking out a jacket while Shannon is whining about part of a colonic apparatus being stuck up her ass and frantically digging for enemas was gold.  And then his "so I'll see you downstairs then?"  So great.  And then him telling the girls never to let anyone do that to them while he surgery scrubs his hands.  He was really the star of the show for me tonight.  

 

 

Did Jim...Jim Edmonds tell Meghan she lost half her prettiness when she took off her fake eyelash?

 

I think he was just joking.  He always seems a lot nicer and like he actually at least likes her when they are on the phone.  Maybe he is uncomfortable being on the show.  It seems weird since he's a on-air sports commentator, but maybe the cameras in the context of a reality show are more invasive and bug him. 

[LibertarianSlut]

Maybe I'm alone here, but I think Briana's weight should be fair game for discussion. I don't think we should fat-shame her, like "shame on Briana for being fat," but the fact is she's become a substantially larger woman over the past few years. I don't think that's shameful, so I don't feel shame about discussing it. When she sat down with Tamra, I thought it would have been so refreshing if they would have had an all-encompassing discussion about Briana's life, including how she feels about her body. It's got to be on her mind in one respect or another. Very few people gain what appears to be 80+ lbs, and have no thoughts on it. Even if her thought is, "screw anyone who judges me," I think it would be more thought-provoking than what they actually talked about: "Brooks, Brooks, Brooks." Yawn. When women get together, they discuss their weight. I don't think it gets much more "real" than that. And a lot of women get depressed when their jeans don't fit right. I know I've felt this way in the past. So it makes Briana relatable.

I am actually really interested to see how a fat woman would navigate in the looks-obsessed OC. It would harken back to themes of status and insider vs outsider that we've seen in early seasons with Jo and Lauri. We keep seeing the same boring, manufactured story lines, and this would be something new and authentic. It's a storyline I've never seen on any of these Housewives shows. Jeana used to touch on it, and I always wanted to hear more about her and her body shame that was rooted in her husband's disapproval of her weight. Briana's getting camera time already; rather than gossip about her mom for the umpteenth time, wouldn't it have been interesting to hear Briana discuss whether she is self-conscious being "home," or if she acknowledges her weight gain, but doesn't really care what people think? I think it's especially interesting that Briana used to be fit when the show started, and she's gained a significant amount of weight. Are there people that she avoids? Is she worried about running into Colby ever? Or have her values shifted since giving birth? Or maybe she was never weight-conscious, and she just used to be fit cause of other factors.

I mean, after tonight, I really feel like we've seen EVERYthing with these women. It's too much. I'd rather scale back and watch something real.

[yourmomiseasy]

Speaking as someone who gained a large amount of weight over a few years due to medical issues, it feels like shit and I doubt it is something she wants to talk about, let alone on TV.  I don't discuss it with anyone.  It's upsetting and a downer and I don't want to think about it more than I already have to.

[swankie]

It seems weird since he's a on-air sports commentator, but maybe the cameras in the context of a reality show are more invasive and bug him.

 

 

I think the fact that his wife acts like an annoying assed douchebag when on camera is what bugs him.

[IKnowRight]

Seeing the pics on Instagram of Brianna from this recent reunion taping appears to show that she has lost weight since they filmed this season. I thought she looked good in the pics and Vicki was a bit slimmer in her mid section.

[link417]

Shannon's incorrect use of "David and I" (instead of "David and me") was in overdrive tonight.

That is SUCH a pet peeve of mine, glad I'm not the only one who notices.

[Pollock]

Shannon is exhausting but I think I'm in love with her now. Between the horse story, the butt one, the organic make-up, the affair, the thingy to breath, the awkward hotel rendez-vous with her husband last year... she really let everything on the table, good bad ridiculous and/or really ugly. It's like she is in the first two seasons of the show while the other women are in the later fabricated ones. In some ways, I feel she respects more the viewers than the other ones, including her bosses.

I love poop jokes and stories (mostly because people don't want to hear them, as if it doesn't exist like having periods), I'm crass like that so I was rolling. Better that than cancer scams.

Edited October 6, 2015 by Pollock

[SnarkKitty]

Shannon and David: now that's love ... Black love.

 

Way too much inappropriateness going on for my tastes.

 

Beadors:  No, I don't think you need to share all the details of your enema adventures with your children (or us for that matter). And (IMO) your 13 year old does not need make-up, organic or not. So you know what I think about the younger ones.

 

DuBrows: Y'all were (IMO) approaching Kardashian levels of TMI re: your sex life with your kids. They don't want to know you like that, trust me. There's open, and there's it's no longer about them, it's about YOU trying to seem cool. 

 

Gunvalsons, et al: Vicki, you know damned well what you were shrieking on that children's train, and Brianna you repeating it multiple times in case we didn't get it wasn't helping. No the kids probably didn't understand, but that's never stopped them from repeating stuff now has it?

 

Tamra: Enough with your obsession with anal and everyone's asses. We get it, Eddie never turns you over.

 

Wait, Brooks has cancer?

[Lizzing]

I could have sworn that Heather said last week on WWHL that "next week" (i.e., this episode), we'll see that she's pissed at Brooks because he drug her into the middle of his cancer story.  Seeing as how Brooks wasn't on this episode and looks to be absent next week, I'm not sure how Brooks drug Heather anywhere.  I'm no fan of Brooks, but how exactly did he drag Heather into his SL or is she just trying to make herself relevant beyond house porn?  (Frankly, I'd be happy with her to leave it at house porn.  I want to see how that hotel she's building turns out.)

 

I don't think I've ever been to a baptism or any religious ceremony where the attendees "pre game" so much on the car ride to the event or in the hotel suite prior (looking at Eddie guzzle whatever his drink was).  Yeah, I know it's really the wrap party, but if they're not breaking the 4th wall, they should at the very least, use glassware and not ride around with beer bottles.

[motorcitymom65]

So,did Heather and Tamra know about the affair before Shannon did? That was unclear to me. If they did, not sure how that works with the infamous "girl code". I thought you were supposed to tell a close friend if you knew something like that, though it is always dangerous to be the bearer of those tidings. Not really sure which way is correct. And did they voth truly keep it to themselves?? That is almost unfathomable to me.

On WWHL David said that he thought Heather already knew about the affair on the night that Shannon came over to Heather and Terry's house. He said he assumed that she knew because she ran in the same circles as The Affair and knew her. He said that he was afraid the game was up at that point. It's so hard to believe he was willing to take such a chance. David also said that Shannon knew this woman prior to the affair as well. It sounds like they all ran in the same circles so there was proabably a lot of talking. Regarding "girl code" and whether or not Heather should have told a "close friend" anything, Heather and Shannon were not close friends. The incident at Heather and Terry's house happened during the first half of the season, and they were already not getting along. Shannon said on WWHL that she looks at that night very differently now. No, they were not getting along, but Heather didn't reveal what she knew to anyone - including Terry. Shannon said in her blog that she is very grateful to Heather for not coming to her with the news.

I could have sworn that Heather said last week on WWHL that "next week" (i.e., this episode), we'll see that she's pissed at Brooks because he drug her into the middle of his cancer story.  Seeing as how Brooks wasn't on this episode and looks to be absent next week, I'm not sure how Brooks drug Heather anywhere.  I'm no fan of Brooks, but how exactly did he drag Heather into his SL or is she just trying to make herself relevant beyond house porn?  (Frankly, I'd be happy with her to leave it at house porn.  I want to see how that hotel she's building turns out.)

 

I don't think I've ever been to a baptism or any religious ceremony where the attendees "pre game" so much on the car ride to the event or in the hotel suite prior (looking at Eddie guzzle whatever his drink was).  Yeah, I know it's really the wrap party, but if they're not breaking the 4th wall, they should at the very least, use glassware and not ride around with beer bottles.

It's possible there was a scene filmed with Brooks talking to Heather and Terry about his diagnosis and it was cut. Heather seemed sure that we would see this, so I assume that it happened and ended up on the cutting room floor.

[bohochickn]

I was worried about Shannon wearing white after the colonic.

IKR!!!

[imjagain]

Now can we say that Shannon finally got the stick out of her ass?

The shot of David scrubbing his hands after anally probing Shannon = Priceless.

Dear Briana - Tamra is about as brutally honest as Pinocchio.

The less we see of Meghan, the better the episode.

Omg! I might have to re-watch this episode. I ff through so much that I missed a lot.

I have been ff so much of this show but your post got my attention lol.

I have had very little sympathy for David regarding "nagging" Shannon. He had an affair and betrayed his wife. After watching him on WWHL I feel fine in thinking he was a complete asshole to Shannon and his family. He actually handed his wedding ring to his daughter and told her to give it to Shannon, he didn't want it anymore. My jaw actually dropped open, complete douchebag.

Edited October 6, 2015 by imjagain

[MyAimIsTrue]

I thought nothing could be more ridiculous than Tamra worrying about her makeup after getting dunked in water.  Then Shannon, the plastic tip, and her ass made an appearance.

[Bronzedog]

Oh, yeah....I forgot that part...I thought to myself "Well, that's one piece of advice that all fathers should probably give to their daughters at some point".....LOL!!!

Poor David! Worried about his daughters signing up for " Digging for Ass Artifacts 101" at school.

[CrinkleCutCat]

I thought nothing could be more ridiculous than Tamra worrying about her makeup after getting dunked in water. Then Shannon, the plastic tip, and her ass made an appearance.

....and then Terry, TERRY, was concerned about Tamra's dress getting wet at her baptism/wedding/storyline finale/excuse for a party.

Edited October 6, 2015 by CrinkleCutCat

[ghoulina]

So I guess Brianna decided to give in and stay at "The Family Home" instead of a hotel. That way she could bitch for 10 straight hours about how "creepy" the vibe is, while her husband comments on the musty smell. In all seriousness, I usually side with Brianna, but give it a rest already. He's not even there!

 

Also, there are no parks in OK? Seriously? 

 

I do think it's pretty shitty that the way Brianna originally found out Brooks had moved in was via a video Vicki made. So passive aggressive. 

 

Vicki calling the train ride with her grandsons a "circle jerk"! So many levels of hilarious. 

 

Also, why was she laughing when talking about Brooks's bone aspiration and scan? Forget all Sleuth Megan's "discoveries", Vicki just doesn't act like a woman who's one true love has their life hanging in the balance. 

 

So during Briana and Tamra's lunch a little interesting tidbit was revealed - Brooks told Briana he had pancreatic cancer way back when they first met, but then after some questioning admitted it was really just pancreatitis? I'd really love to know if there is some truth to that, because it sounds shady as hell and makes his current claims look all the more questionable. Obviously everyone is different, but pancreatic cancer is usually no joke. My step-grandma died of it and it was FAST. 

 

But Tamra can lose me with the way she runs back to Vicki like, "I tried!" No you didn't! You only relayed to Brianna that her mother WANTED you to try. But all you did was gossip about Brooks and confirm each other's suspicions. Which, I really don't care, but don't lie about it. It's on film. 

 

 

 

So now Megan is proclaiming that Hayley doesn't need a mom, she just needs a friend. Eh, maybe so, but that's not the reason you're taking the friend route. It's simply because the mom route didn't work. At all. Also, Hayley only agreed to go to that stupid baptism because the cameras were filming. I guarantee she never had any intention of going. 

 

Terry commenting to his son about how hot Heather's body is? Shudder. He's so skeevy. 

 

And now we know why the Beador's marriage is failing. Do you think that's the first time David has been asked to probe Shannon's nether regions in search of a broken piece of Dr. Moon's struggle colonic? And it wasn't even in there! Only Shannon. 

 

Next week looks juicy as hell. 

Edited October 6, 2015 by ghoulina

[Ubiquitous]

Baptized in a swimming pool. And apparently Oklahoma is the worst place in the world. Circle Jerks at the petting zoo, ass fingering, baptism stylists, dead mahms talking through wind chimes and Jesus. Alrighty.

if one didn't wonder about the authenicity of Tamra's church before, them having a baptismal stylist should remove any doubts.

That thing with Shannon? Did that really happen? I'm starting to think I'm not as close to my husband as I should be.

Certainly not as close as Bobby and Whitney were! <insert clip here>

[Bebecat]

I hate talking about people's weight, gain or loss, but I do wonder if Brianna has become more unhappy due to her weight gain and thus, more bitter/unpleasant in general. I hope Icky has not said things to her about it in her "helpful" way, but there is nothing I would put past her as far as being inappropriate. And I agree, Icky totally was milking the scene in the park. I do not believe she does anything spontaneously anymore, it is all about the cameras. She is a monster. And Brianna is right about Icky being close to losing everyone over Crookes.

Icky certainly does not seem to care about Crooke's various procedures, whatever the heck they consist of, that is for sure. And she does not even do the "me, me, me" scenes about it, as she did with Brianna's health issues, which is a dead giveaway, Imo. If she really thought Crooke's life was in danger, she would be wailing and howling (on camera) at every turn on how SHE felt, what SHE might lose, how awful this is for HER. But no, just work and travel as per usual including stalkimg Brianna and fam in OK. Boy, good thing she throws money at Brianna or she probably would not see her much at all. I can't imagine what else she is useful for to Brianna now that she is not in babysitting range.

I do feel bad for Brianna that she seems so unhappy. She was born with such a handicap, having Icky as a mother, Imo. Icky uses emotional blackmail to try to keep people close and when that fails, throws money around, making sure everyone knows it.

Donn going back to her? Lol, is she insane? Or is he? I can't imagine him wanting to be with her again. She treated him like absolute crap. Good luck with that Icky.

[ghoulina]

And Shannon did that enema right before going somewhere in a white dress. Is she brave or stupid?

 

Wasn't Heather acting incredulous that Shannon would do such a thing right before an event? I was like, "Bitch, you showed up a party with maxi pads duct taped to your abdomen, so your leech blood didn't ooze out everywhere". #ocproblems

 

From the previews tonight, even though Vicki said she told no one, it appears she did in fact tell someone else, which is why their friendship ended.

 

Yup. It looks like she told Billy's wife (girlfriend?) at the very least. To have someone you don't even know throw that in your face at a party would just be awful. Fuck Vicki. Her gossiping about her friend's marital problems like that is much worse than Shannon having questions because Brooks didn't use a doctor they asked her to help set up an appt. with. 

 

I loved it. That's how my family is. We were always open and honest and made jokes about sex all the time. In my opinion it's much better than uptight parents who are too uncomfortable to discuss sex with their kids and simply tell them not to do it.

I love that they joke about sex openly. It won't hurt the kids and in my opinion will only help them in the long run.

 

I 100% believe in having ongoing, frank sex talks with my kids. It may be uncomfortable, but they need to know as much as possible and feel comfortable coming to me about that topic. That being said, discussing my sex life with their father - or hinting at it - just crosses a line for me. I've never wanted to think about MY parents having sex and I'm sure my kids won't want to either. To each their own, but it came across as really tacky. Heather seemed very uncomfortable, to me, as did the boy. I don't think Terry made that joke because he's that open dad who talks to his kids about everything. I think he did it because he thinks he's funny and always wants everyone to know what a "hot" wife he has, and forgets to turn his schtick off in front of his kids. 

 

Well, Brooks ex GF claimed that he has made 2 other claims of cancer, NOT NHL though, that were lies so I have no problem believing Briana that he tried to say he had Pancreatic Cancer until she busted him by asking logical medical questions. Which sounds oddly familiar to what we are hearing this season.

 

I tend to believe Brianna and I'm not saying she wouldn't know the right questions to ask, but I found it hilarious when she kept calling herself "An ER nurse!", as her explanation for why she knows so much. Does the ER deal with a lot of cancer?

[Ubiquitous]

According to Shannon, everyone knew before she did, all of them and no one told her, not even her good friend Vicki. At the end of last season, neither Tamra or Heather were on good terms with Shannon so telling her would have come across as cruel IMO. Shannon also confirmed that Heather knew the other woman and that she did not tell anyone, including Terry. From the previews tonight, even though Vicki said she told no one, it appears she did in fact tell someone else, which is why their friendship ended.

That's the impression I got, plus, wasn't there a flap over Heather being called out for gossiping with some other women, one of who told Shannon about it and Heather said something ridiculous as an excuse?

I have never heard of someone tailgating for a baptism before. Hmm.

[Lucelu]

I think chronic pancreatitis is a risk factor for pancreatic cancer. I have taken care of plenty of people who have suffered with pancreatitis. It is very painful. Often people who get this have alcoholism and they generally suffer from fatty liver disease as well so are advised not to drink afterwards. Those usually are people who suffer from it more than once. Who knows what really was his problem. The entire Brooks story is so stupid. I feel like if there had not been such a war about Vicki seeing him this would not even be an issue. Brianna is guilty of adding to the drama about him thus bringing more attention to Brooks. Vicki is so immature, I bet she even would have lost interest had this not been a focus. If Brianna had not moved to OK, she probably would have. I also think the situation between Shannon and Vicki is more than meets the eye on the show. The whole Shannon thinking the blue enema tip cover was stuck in her butt was funny. But then I have nurse humor and since I have had to actually use those tap water/soap suds enema bags on people-- it made me think of the early days of nursing.  Brianna speaking from her experience as an ED nurse really has no experience with cancer treatment, only the complications of treatment that would bring a cancer patient to the ED--Other than nursing school which does not really spend a long time on cancer.  She can tell you a lot about drug overdoses and cardiac/pulmonary emergencies though!

[Lucelu]

Honestly, as I was scrolling down my channel select menu, I almost watched the story about the 24 lb scrotum instead on TLC. It took everything I had to not select it. I bet it would have been way more interesting.

[jnymph]

Shannon was doing her nails after her enema expedition.   Did anyone notice, did she finally paint them something other than black? 
That's all I need to know.

 

Oh and when Meghan and Hayley were doing the goofy facials, I noticed Meghan must have robbed Shannon's closet for that fugly top.
 

[Lucelu]

Maybe I'm alone here, but I think Briana's weight should be fair game for discussion. I don't think we should fat-shame her, like "shame on Briana for being fat," but the fact is she's become a substantially larger woman over the past few years. I don't think that's shameful, so I don't feel shame about discussing it. When she sat down with Tamra, I thought it would have been so refreshing if they would have had an all-encompassing discussion about Briana's life, including how she feels about her body. It's got to be on her mind in one respect or another. Very few people gain what appears to be 80+ lbs, and have no thoughts on it. Even if her thought is, "screw anyone who judges me," I think it would be more thought-provoking than what they actually talked about: "Brooks, Brooks, Brooks." Yawn. When women get together, they discuss their weight. I don't think it gets much more "real" than that. And a lot of women get depressed when their jeans don't fit right. I know I've felt this way in the past. So it makes Briana relatable.

I am actually really interested to see how a fat woman would navigate in the looks-obsessed OC. It would harken back to themes of status and insider vs outsider that we've seen in early seasons with Jo and Lauri. We keep seeing the same boring, manufactured story lines, and this would be something new and authentic. It's a storyline I've never seen on any of these Housewives shows. Jeana used to touch on it, and I always wanted to hear more about her and her body shame that was rooted in her husband's disapproval of her weight. Briana's getting camera time already; rather than gossip about her mom for the umpteenth time, wouldn't it have been interesting to hear Briana discuss whether she is self-conscious being "home," or if she acknowledges her weight gain, but doesn't really care what people think? I think it's especially interesting that Briana used to be fit when the show started, and she's gained a significant amount of weight. Are there people that she avoids? Is she worried about running into Colby ever? Or have her values shifted since giving birth? Or maybe she was never weight-conscious, and she just used to be fit cause of other factors.

I mean, after tonight, I really feel like we've seen EVERYthing with these women. It's too much. I'd rather scale back and watch something real.

Just watch Fat Actress on Showtime. Kirstie Alley is so awesome. Plus, she is a funny and happy person on the inside and you don't have to deal with the Mommy issues. It is scripted and way more entertaining.

[ghoulina]

Satan Loves Confusion. So, essentially Tamra is Satan? Good to know.

[Freckledbruh]

Icky certainly does not seem to care about Crooke's various procedures, whatever the heck they consist of, that is for sure. And she does not even do the "me, me, me" scenes about it, as she did with Brianna's health issues, which is a dead giveaway, Imo. If she really thought Crooke's life was in danger, she would be wailing and howling (on camera) at every turn on how SHE felt, what SHE might lose, how awful this is for HER. But no, just work and travel as per usual including stalkimg Brianna and fam in OK. Boy, good thing she throws money at Brianna or she probably would not see her much at all. I can't imagine what else she is useful for to Brianna now that she is not in babysitting range.

I have a different read on this. Brianna is Vicki's daughter so of course she will do the backflips of a narcissist to make it all about Vicki. With Brooks, he is just the dude to keep her love tank full and you can only keep Vicki's love tank full by making it all about Vicki. Hallmark cards and flattery may have been able to get Brooks into Vicki's pockets but the minute he revealed that he had cancer (real or not) is when he overplayed his hand. It isn't uncommon for the partner of someone who has been diagnosed with a serious illness to feel resentment towards that person. Vicki being Vicki can barely contain/hide that resentment hence her harping on how long his sessions is taking, etc. Then add in the fact that she knows that dumping Brooks on camera with his (maybe or maybe not) cancer would make her look even worse than she already does, you have her going through the motions of being "supportive" while really counting the days until she can cut him loose and find another "pump" to fill the love tank.