Episode Discussion: TFGH

[ciarra]

15 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

(Kim) already knew that Sonny was a mob boss because she had done her research, no?

And yet she didn't come across the part where Morgan was blown up by a car bomb.  Apparently she has no concern for her son's safety around Joss.

[dubbel zout]

14 hours ago, Oracle42 said:

Well, Julian knew Olivia was crazy, in Port Charles and targeting Sonny - his hands aren't clean. There's enough blame to go around

There certainly is. It's too bad the show lets only Sonny off the hook for Morgan's death. It's not surprising, of course, but it's so boring. And so irritating. 

1 hour ago, ulkis said:

that he was porn foundation

I love this typo.

5 minutes ago, ciarra said:

Apparently she has no concern for her son's safety around Joss.

Unlike Carly, Kim seems to understand that forbidden fruit is all the more tempting. I know that hasn't been made explicit, but just seeing that her attitude toward Oscar and Joss possibly having sex—she hopes it doesn't happen but knows it's not up to her—was much more pragmatic than Carly's total freakout makes me think she won't do something stupid like tell Oscar he can't see Joss anymore. I hope we're spared a dumb story about the two of them sneaking off to be together.

[statsgirl]

14 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

Speaking of failures, the Nelle experiment has failed many times over. I hung in there longer than some, but that character is hopeless. The previous writing regime buried her in too many missteps. The writing and acting of Michael in relation to her isn't even giving dwindling Nelle/Michael shippers any rays of hope, as were there in some previous periods when he had enough reason to be done with her.

 

I think the writing is worse for her right now than it's ever been.  I would be 1000% behind her gaslighting Carly, hopefully leading to Carly being a wig on a stick herself, but Nelle's plans are truly amazingly awful.  Even if she weren't carrying that scarf around with her, getting her DNA all over it and pulling it out so other people can find it, who doesn't know you can tell the sex in blood?  At least think of getting that crazy man by the only remaining public telephone booth to done some blood, try a little. Better, how about some of Sonny's blood, or Michael's?  Degraded, Carly might buy that it's Morgan's.

I deserve a Carly antagonist who is at least as good as the Carly who arrived in Port Charles was.

If there was ever a character who defines milquetoast, it's CD's Michael.  They need to recast if they ever want him to be a real romantic lead instead of just Carson's  whipped puppy dog.

Edited March 24, 2018 by statsgirl

[TeeVee329]

If the show wants us to think Julian is some suave ladies man, they need to knock it off with him purposely mispronouncing the names of Alexis' paramours.  Like, ha ha, he called Dr. Bensch Dr. Belch.  It's sooo lame.

That said, the shenanigans going on in the Kim/Julian/Alexis/Dr. Michael Easton/Anna sphere are quite soapy, but as always, it strikes me that these beats are being played in this age group while the young'ins have mated for life.

Sonny shading Andre for being out of jail was not cute.  Look in a mirror, dillhole.

[sacrebleu]

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he was porn foundation 

heh

The Harvey Porn Foundation, for those having trouble finding opportunists in the entertainment industry.

[TeeVee329]

Oh, and more signposts for the baby switch(es) ahead with Brad (!) and Nelle talking today.

[norahs99]

54 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Sonny shading Andre for being out of jail was not cute.  Look in a mirror, dillhole.

Co-sign!

[dubbel zout]

36 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Oh, and more signposts for the baby switch(es) ahead with Brad (!) and Nelle talking today.

Who? Heh. Yeah, these were total anvils.

I hated those scenes between Sam and Drew, with Sam a sobbing, pleading mess. Her predicament isn't unexpected. Or shouldn't be—of course she's going to have feelings for both men. I don't understand the stuff about Sam needing to trust herself again and figure out who she is. Isn't the issue that the beloved husband she thought was dead is actually alive and well and back in Port Charles, and she's married to his once-identical brother who she learned to love for his own strengths? I don't know what that other stuff has to do with this. And while I get why Drew is mad, he's acting like a dick.

36 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Sonny shading Andre for being out of jail was not cute.  Look in a mirror, dillhole.

Shut up, Sonny. I'm glad André was able to stand up to him a bit and didn't slink away in shame.

I know they're sort of playing the Finn/Alexis stuff for laughs, but it's too high school for me to be amused. I also hate that Alexis and Finn can't just be friends. And it's super annoying that Anna and Finn can't just spit out that they have feelings for each other. It's not like I'm expecting them to get married ten minutes later. They can take it slow.

[Linny]

Sam's crying and despair over Drew walking out the door left me completely cold. Did she really think she could tell her husband she's not 100% committed to him and he'd stick around? As Drew said, Jason's standing between them, and that's by Sam's choice. She's choosing to confront these feelings instead of putting them to bed, and that's fine if that's what will bring her peace and happiness, but Drew has the same right to put himself first. Walking away from Sam was an act of self-preservation. Sam may genuinely love both men, but to Drew it's a betrayal, one that he doesn't have to stay and be a spectator of.

Nelle's juvenile shenanigans are the most obnoxious waste of time. I really want to know how the hell anyone could think it would be a good idea to watch a pregnant woman make prank calls and pull fire alarms instead of doing anything worthwhile.

Spinelli seriously thinks he can make a couple fake documents and pretend to be Henrik? I mean, since this is GH he probably can, but it's still annoyingly dumb. 

"After everything you did to Jason and Drew, why are you still walking free?" Okay, stop. This may be the greatest thing Sonny's ever said. Hang it in Ava's gallery in a section called "Oblivious Absence of Self-Awareness." 

Edited March 23, 2018 by Linny

[dubbel zout]

18 minutes ago, Linny said:

pull fire alarms

Was the reason for that to get Carly out of her office? Nelle couldn't have Carly paged instead? This story is so, so dumb.

[LillyB]

O joy, Spin is back. Did they dump Nathan for more Spin time? I hate that odious sob almost as much as I hate Sonny.

[YaddaYadda]

one of the things that sort of drives me crazy with this whole triangle with Sam is how hostile she had become toward Sonny and the business and that was before her brain worm thing even happened. So I'm not really sure what the writers are doing here. Jason will never leave Sonny, Jason's life will always be in danger and with any lucky, he'll get shot in the back again and thrown in the harbor. Did they write that storyline before they knew Burton was coming back?

Nelle is an idiot. I'm sure that Carly will not have cameras because it's more convenient that way.

I find Mike's scenes with anyone but Sonny really good. 

Jason is going to be all up in Carly's business now with this scarf business. Wasn't he supposed to go to Europe? What's he still doing in PC?

[LillyB]

Is crying the only acting that KM can do? Her crying is getting tiresome.

[WendyCR72]

5 minutes ago, LillyB said:

Is crying the only acting that KM can do? Her crying is getting tiresome.

Sam doesn't have the nickname of Tsunami Sam for nothing!

[LillyB]

I am enjoying the fact that Mike's grandsons treat him so much better than Sonny does.

[Auntie Velvet]

On 3/22/2018 at 8:00 AM, Asp Burger said:

Back in the late 1990s, Guiding Light had a teenage couple on a date, talking about movies that were then-current, and the ones they were naming were (unintentionally?) hilariously wrong for those characters. The girl said "I loved A Simple Plan" and the boy said "No way! The Thin Red Line was so much better!" and these characters as written the rest of the time would have been more plausibly arguing about Antz versus A Bug's Life, or Halloween H20 versus I Still Know What You Did Last Summer.  

The GH writer did better with Francesca and Michael's music discussion. Here's that band she was flapping her gums about.  I'd never listened to them either, but this sounds about right for her.  They are, in fact, coming out with something new in a few weeks, as she said. Writer (or writer's kid) must be a fan.  

 

 

Every time Haim is mentioned I immediately get thrown into an earworm of a Crazy Ex-Girlfriend song that mentions them as current Jewish band: "I mean would it be such a crime/For the Beastie Boys or Haim/To mention in a song one time/ Remember that we suffered."

ETA: Oh wait, was it Hinds or Haim they were talking about? They even look alike.

Edited March 23, 2018 by Auntie Velvet

[dubbel zout]

1 hour ago, LillyB said:

I am enjoying the fact that Mike's grandsons treat him so much better than Sonny does.

Here's an idea, Sonny: That might be why Mike is happier to see them than he is you.

[Perkie]

Blooper of the day:  When Michael mentions the baby to Mike, Mike says "my first great grandchild".  But Rocco is the first great grandchild.  Was that a memory thing from Mike or a mistake on the part of the writers.  

[Benji]

How do Brad and Nelle know each other ? They were talking like they were friends, or at least friendly acquaintances.

[tveyeonyou]

11 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

That last Sam/Drew scene was such a mutter-fest, even by the previous standards of those two in their couch cuddles. I decided to transcribe it as I would hear it without trying to make it fit the story.   

S: I…found it in Harvey's motel room. That's how Elizabeth and I knew that he was lying. I told Elizabeth to take it down to the police station while I stayed back and [deep breath; the entire rest of the quote comes out in a gust on that breath] got the scoop on Harvey, and that's when I know you overheard him saying that he was porn foundation and then he left and I was able to sneak into his room and I got the papers anyway The Face gave me back earring this morning. 

D: Hey. Hey. Look at that.

S: Look at that. 

D: Everything is right back where it's supposed to be. Gotta dig this hole again. Thank you. Franco. 

S: Drew?

D: Yeah, baby?

S: We really need to talk. 

Yeah, and try enunciating.  

I think a busybody woman who believes she knows what's best for other people's relationships, especially (but not exclusively) her family's, is not a bad soap trope (think Karen Fairgate McKenzie on Knots Landing). but Carly's all wrong to occupy that role. It works better with someone (1) generally goodhearted and virtuous, (2) older to the point that her own mistakes are in the distant past, or (3) both virtuous and older. Carly...no. Fail.

Speaking of failures, the Nelle experiment has failed many times over. I hung in there longer than some, but that character is hopeless. The previous writing regime buried her in too many missteps. The writing and acting of Michael in relation to her isn't even giving dwindling Nelle/Michael shippers any rays of hope, as were there in some previous periods when he had enough reason to be done with her. Now he acts completely over her, but for the baby. 

I'm really not sure how good Chloe Lanier is, but I do know that what they write for her to do skirts any strengths she has. It wouldn't surprise me if five years down the line she turned up on another show or in a movie and was revealed to be good, though. She tries hard.  

The bolded parts made me laugh hysterically, like clutching my stomach rolling on the bed laughing uncontrollably with tears even, it's so awesome! Thank you! I needed that laugh and that was exactly it! 

But I feel bad for Drew and I don't know what anyone else thinks cause I haven't read yet but Sam's sniffly tearful confession she just HAD to tell him NOW even though he was almost killed by Harvey and had a weird Franco bonding moment thing... I hope Sam finally decides she wants Drew after dragging it out and Drew is like, see ya Sam, you can visit Scout, just call first bye.... then Sam goes with Jason and waits around a lot while he does stuff for Sonny and Carly. 

I don't know, Sam and her crying as she destroys Drew (after getting him back from Liz sorta) pissed me off, she doesn't get to cry, at least not in front of Drew, I didn't realize how much I like Drew until Sam was crying , just argh Sam, that was pretty cold!

[Perkie]

55 minutes ago, Benji said:

How do Brad and Nelle know each other

Lucas (who?) is Brad's husband.  Lucas (who?) is Michael's uncle, therefore Lucas (who?) is baby Melle's great uncle.  

 

That's all I got.  

Edited March 24, 2018 by Perkie

[fishcakes]

Mike and Michael remaking The Jerk was my favorite thing today.

Mike: You don't need all that stuff! You only need one thing to raise a baby. A big heart! And you've got one.
Michael: Thank you.
Mike: Do you have a crib?
Michael: Yes.
Mike: Then you only need one thing: earplugs!
Michael: ... Okay.
Mike: And this lamp.
Michael: ?
Mike: You've got the the big heart, the crib, the earplugs, and this lamp. You don't need anything else. Except this paddle game.

Meanwhile, on Speech Impediment Theatre:

Drew [holds up left hand]: Yzz szzz thzzz rizzz? I chzz thzz rzzz soooo mzzy tzzes EZZERY dzzz.
Sam: [pointing up the stairs]: DWAHH! AH BAHBAH! GAH LAAK AH AAH BAHBAH!
Drew: [takes off ring]: I czz bzz hzz AZZYmzzz. [leaves]
Sam: DWAHH! DAH GAH, DWAHH!

Are they having problems? I can't tell.

[RedheadZombie]

6 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Oh, and more signposts for the baby switch(es) ahead with Brad (!) and Nelle talking today.

Oh I've been thinking this for a while.  The only question is will there will a three way switch, or will Brad/Lucas simply land Nelle's or Maxie's dead baby?  I actually tend to enjoy baby switches as it's classic soap, but I'm irritated that an obscure character like Brad will be pushed into this major story line.  I don't like the character and the actor sucks, IMO.  I'm going with Maxie's baby being "dead" which will be classically tragic, but then does Nelle get this baby and Brad gets hers?  Or is there an actual live adopted baby in the mix?  It's overly confusing.

[ciarra]

1 hour ago, RedheadZombie said:

I'm going with Maxie's baby being "dead" which will be classically tragic, but then does Nelle get this baby and Brad gets hers? 

I'm going with Franco, the usual suspect.

[ulkis]

At this point I don't think Maxie will be involved in a baby switch. If Nelle is involved I really hope she dies before anyone finds out she switches the babies because otherwise she'll be involved for even longer.

[LexieLily]

Finn/Hayden's baby should be already born and a few months old by now, right? Brad and Lucas could always end up with that one so when Finn and/or Liz finds out we can have another fun custody battle.

[statsgirl]

If there is a baby switch, I'm hoping it's done by Ava because Nelle is dead and Ava wants revenge on Sonny,  Carly and Michael for keeping Avery from her.

[TeeVee329]

5 hours ago, RedheadZombie said:

Oh I've been thinking this for a while.  The only question is will there will a three way switch, or will Brad/Lucas simply land Nelle's or Maxie's dead baby?  I actually tend to enjoy baby switches as it's classic soap, but I'm irritated that an obscure character like Brad will be pushed into this major story line.  I don't like the character and the actor sucks, IMO.  I'm going with Maxie's baby being "dead" which will be classically tragic, but then does Nelle get this baby and Brad gets hers?  Or is there an actual live adopted baby in the mix?  It's overly confusing.

But if the show bothered to remember that Maxie and Lucas (who?) are cousins, I think a baby swap where Lucas and Brad end up with Maxie's baby could be dramatically soapy.

IMO, ideally, the Nelle/Michael baby gets tocked.  Nelle, a psychopath, steals the Lucas/Brad baby, but then there's some kind of mix-up that leads to Lucas/Brad getting the Maxie/Nathan baby.  So in the end, there's drama when Lucas has to hand over his baby to his cousin Maxie, and then drama when his nephew Michael (slash mostly his sister Carly) has to hand over that baby to Lucas/Brad.

[Valmarmar]

6 hours ago, fishcakes said:

Mike and Michael remaking The Jerk was my favorite thing today.

Mike: You don't need all that stuff! You only need one thing to raise a baby. A big heart! And you've got one.
Michael: Thank you.
Mike: Do you have a crib?
Michael: Yes.
Mike: Then you only need one thing: earplugs!
Michael: ... Okay.
Mike: And this lamp.
Michael: ?
Mike: You've got the the big heart, the crib, the earplugs, and this lamp. You don't need anything else. Except this paddle game.

Meanwhile, on Speech Impediment Theatre:

Drew [holds up left hand]: Yzz szzz thzzz rizzz? I chzz thzz rzzz soooo mzzy tzzes EZZERY dzzz.
Sam: [pointing up the stairs]: DWAHH! AH BAHBAH! GAH LAAK AH AAH BAHBAH!
Drew: [takes off ring]: I czz bzz hzz AZZYmzzz. [leaves]
Sam: DWAHH! DAH GAH, DWAHH!

Are they having problems? I can't tell.

Okay Fishcakes !!   Your " Speech Impediment Theatre " is hysterical !  Thank YOU !!   I could NOT believe what I was watching today.   New low for GH and particularly these two.   I just posted yesterday how fine an actor I think BM is.   But, I realized today that I never really see that in him when he is w/ KM.   He reflects her, just as we saw in these scenes today.   YUCK.

[sunnyface]

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New low for GH.

This soap today seems to be more interested in attempting to redeem despicable characters and their 'almost as despicable' enablers.  Whatever happened to the two doctors (Matt and Stephen) stuck in jail?  Every time that I see Sonny Corinthos in a scene at General Hospital, I want to see the hospital fumigated. 

[Aurora2]

14 hours ago, Perkie said:

Blooper of the day:  When Michael mentions the baby to Mike, Mike says "my first great grandchild".  But Rocco is the first great grandchild.  Was that a memory thing from Mike or a mistake on the part of the writers.  

Is it a blooper - or is it yet another indication of how much Dante is the forgotten Corinthos son?  The one included in scenes only when a plot point is being served or when the writers randomly decide to remember him as part of this family? 

This isn't the first time this kind of thing has happened.  I remember once, when Morgan was being treated in hospital, that a message was carried to him about how the WHOLE family was supporting him - and Dante wasn't mentioned.  Everyone else was, though. 

[Darklazr]

STFU up Sam, you dumped Patrick for JakeDoeJason after learning his real identity.   However, at least this time you waited six months to dump Drew for "real" Jason Morgan!  Drew can go sit and spin, I have not forgotten how he never once asked Elizabeth why she lied in the first place.  Sam keeping the truth about JaSam kiss means that Drew should kick her to the curb and not look back!

Nelle is dumb.  We all know she's going to lose in the end, die and baby will be gathering dust at CarSon's home.

[Aurora2]

20 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

That said, the shenanigans going on in the Kim/Julian/Alexis/Dr. Michael Easton/Anna sphere are quite soapy, but as always, it strikes me that these beats are being played in this age group while the young'ins have mated for life.

 

Re the bolded, on the current GH, who exactly are the "young'ins"?  How many of them are there as compared to the many characters 40-ish and above?

One of my persistent complaints about GH in recent years has been the failure to develop the middle and younger age groups and the choice to focus instead on high profile pets and gets in the older age groups.  In doing so, GH has, IMO, failed in developing the multi-generational senses of community, family and history that could and should be soap staples. 

I know age is fluid on soaps and I know that characters can move between age groups in friendships and even in love stories.  However, even with that acknowledgement, there simply aren't many young'ins on our present GH. 

The only "young" characters who receive much attention are those connected to Sonny and Carly - Michael and Joss and formerly Morgan.  Nelle and Oscar owe their screen time to being part of this circle and Kiki gained a good deal of her initial development from also being in this orbit.  Considering how prevalent SORAS-ing is on soaps, GH needs to let kids like Spencer and "Peter Pan" Cameron grow up.  But casting is an issue here because I expect there is no way Uncle Frank will give up diminutive Spencer's summer visit.  So Cameron must be kept young as well, while Joss follows a more typical soap progression.

There was a time when Maxie, Lulu, Dante, and Spinelli would have been considered part of a slightly younger age group. Dillon, Valerie and Lucas could be added to this group.  However, the show decided to jetison Dillon and use Valerie and Lucas sporadically, if at all - an especially sad fact considering that all three have existing links or links available for development as members of long time core families.  Instead of bringing back connected, younger characters like Brooklyn Ashton and Serena Baldwin, we get LWB or older ACTORS that the show chooses to hire and feature. 

Maxie, Spinelli, Lulu and Dante are being aged into the older age group - sadly for Dante and Lulu without having ever really lived their soapy youth.  Lulu had a taste of that pre-Dante; however, that was nine years ago before she and Dante became linked for what feels like an interminably long life.   But, even so, the shifting feelings and game-playing we are now seeing witht the 40 and 50-somethings would still fit better with the Maxie, Lulu, Dante et al age group.  But that group needs more players, and the writers need to remember this is a soap with some of these characters!  

Edited March 24, 2018 by Aurora2

[Bringonthedrama]

13 hours ago, ulkis said:

At this point I don't think Maxie will be involved in a baby switch.

Agree. I was wondering if the show was going in the direction of "Auntie Nina" getting VERY attached to the baby from the moment of birth, at some point begging Maxie to let her take care of the baby for the night at Wyndemere when Maxie has a lot of things to get done, and then Maxie goes to pick up the baby and they've disappeared with the next scene being Ava holding the baby in an unknown location and referring to herself as "Mommy."

If a baby switch happens and the Michael-Nelle baby lives, it seems more likely for the "soapy factor" that Lucas will end up with his nephew's baby OR people with think Michael is crazy from grief for insisting that "this baby isn't mine" after the switch where he gets Adopted Baby. Because hey, Jason's wife got to cry over a dead baby that wasn't her a few years ago, so wouldn't it be fun now for Jason's beloved nephew to do the same thing.

On a sort of related note, I rolled my eyes at Carly 3 explaining to Carly 2...uh I mean Kim ... why she's crying in response to the line "my son is my everything," and how the family is "so close now and talks about feelings." When she showed the framed photo of Morgan, I really wanted TB to go off script and say, "Wow, my baby really grew up" and "Why in the world didn't you make it work with Jax? If you had, Morgan probably wouldn't be dead now.  I know Josslyn has told Oscar what a wonderful man and father Jax is, whereas Sonny has been a source of danger and chaos as she's been growing up."   Seriously, that line from Kim would make Carly think of Michael, not the son she ignored and didn't raise after the break up with Jax. I did enjoy Kim shutting Carly down about Julian, though.  Carly and Kim are NOT girlfriends, so Carly smiling slyly and suggesting that Drew could be free for Kim and objecting to Kim spending time with Julian was extremely inappropriate. So, typical Carly. I would love for Michael to say, "Hey, Mom 2, let me give you a history lesson on her lack of boundaries with me, Jason, and others."

[ouinason]

I'm torn about a baby switch story because I really don't want to see Michael or Maxie go through that.  Like, they both have some history of having a child yanked out from under them, though in very different ways.  My ideal switch situation for this is if Nelle and Maxie give birth outside the hospital and the babies are switched in the process of getting them medical treatment in a hurry when they get there.  Then we have a straight live switch that can go on however long they want to, then the reveal and a custody battle. or with Nelle being gone, Michael and Maxie bond and decide to raise their kids together.  

 

Lucas and Brad can get a few month old Hayden/Finn baby and give Finn angst when he finds out, electing to let them keep it in the end and being a cool uncle type.  

 

I don't want a tock, for the characters, but also because we are gonna need more kids that are less related to everyone else's kids, so Finn's kid and Maxie's need to be around.  And Michael just want's to be a dad, and he'd be good at it.

[RedheadZombie]

1 hour ago, ouinason said:

I'm torn about a baby switch story because I really don't want to see Michael or Maxie go through that.  Like, they both have some history of having a child yanked out from under them, though in very different ways.  My ideal switch situation for this is if Nelle and Maxie give birth outside the hospital and the babies are switched in the process of getting them medical treatment in a hurry when they get there.  Then we have a straight live switch that can go on however long they want to, then the reveal and a custody battle. or with Nelle being gone, Michael and Maxie bond and decide to raise their kids together.  

 

Lucas and Brad can get a few month old Hayden/Finn baby and give Finn angst when he finds out, electing to let them keep it in the end and being a cool uncle type.  

 

I don't want a tock, for the characters, but also because we are gonna need more kids that are less related to everyone else's kids, so Finn's kid and Maxie's need to be around.  And Michael just want's to be a dad, and he'd be good at it.

So the thought is that "the mother who wants to remain anonymous" is Hayden?  Can't say I considered that.  I even wondered if at one point Nelle was going to give the baby away out of spite.  If Hayden doesn't care that the child won't have a mother, why not just give it to Finn?

[ulkis]

I think the problem is summed up by NLG's tweet when Jean Passanante announced her retirement: "No, I wanted you to stay another twenty years." Another twenty years woman? And it's the same with a bunch of other actors, they won't budge despite a solid twenty plus years of frontburner, even though Steve Hardy wasn't focused on for twenty years straight. But I don't know. If they did try to budge them aside, it probably would hurt the show at this point.  At the very least though they should have recast Dillon. They tried with Nelle but see how that turned out. I don't know what they should do with Michael. Bring back one of his girlfriends? Start with a new girl? Recast him? I don't know.

I'd actually SORAS Danny. Normally it would be too soon but Jason is supposed to be around Carly's age and she's about to be a grandmother. Plus, teen Danny could give Jason shit.

[WendyCR72]

My opinion is probably up for disqualification since I no longer watch and haven't for 5 years now.

But, with that disclaimer out of the way, a baby switch is so TIRED. Soaps want to take a look at why they're on life support and there it is. These stories have been done TO DEATH. Sure, it can be "soapy", and I know it's tried and true. But it's also stale.

I know most, if not all, of the soap-writing greats are dead. But the next generation - assuming there is one out there - needs to start thinking up fresh material. And while Maxie could annoy the bejesus out of me, after all she has endured, the idea of her losing her last piece of the hubby she loves just leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

As an aside, I realize there is no bio relation here, but Carly's adopted dad was Nelle's? In that case, Michael got it on with his AUNT? Eeeeeeewwwww. I don't care if there's no blood. I don't care if Carly and Nelle never knew each other. The thought of Michael doing a family relation is nasty.

[LexieLily]

11 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said:

As an aside, I realize there is no bio relation here, but Carly's adopted dad was Nelle's? In that case, Michael got it on with his AUNT? Eeeeeeewwwww. I don't care if there's no blood. I don't care if Carly and Nelle never knew each other. The thought of Michael doing a family relation is nasty.

GH has certainly dropped the Carly/Nelle are-legal-sisters angle, coincidently or not when Michael and Nelle started to date and now when Nelle got pregnant. They don't want us to think about it too hard that Michael is having a baby with his aunt. No one mentioned it when Nelle announced she was pregnant and Carly would for sure convince Sonny or Michael or Jason that is a logical reason to get rid of the pregnancy and Nelle. (And no, like you, I don't care that they didn't grow up together).

[dubbel zout]

7 hours ago, Aurora2 said:

22 hours ago, Perkie said:

Blooper of the day:  When Michael mentions the baby to Mike, Mike says "my first great grandchild".  But Rocco is the first great grandchild.  Was that a memory thing from Mike or a mistake on the part of the writers.  

Is it a blooper - or is it yet another indication of how much Dante is the forgotten Corinthos son? 

Or it could be another example of how Mike's condition is deteriorating.

4 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Carly 3 explaining to Carly 2

It's actually Carly 4 explaining to Carly 2, but Jennifer Bransford was so miscast she might as well be erased.

15 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

(And no, like you, I don't care that they didn't grow up together).

In this case, Carly had been out of the house for so long that it doesn't matter to me. I don't think Carly had any further contact with Frank, and what she had with Virginia was limited to haranguing her for such a terrible (i.e., little money) life.

I don't think the writers entirely thought through making Nelle Frank's daughter—they wanted the shock factor and the easy justification of why Nelle would target Carly. It also served to drag Jax through the mud, since he's the one who bought the kidney.

It's another example of how GH constantly and consistently thinks only about the short term, but it's not fatal here. Just deeply dumb, IMO.

[P3pp3rb1rd]

On ‎3‎/‎22‎/‎2018 at 10:48 PM, Cheyanne11 said:

I Need All Those Around Me To Be With People I Approve Of: Carly, The Sequel

And yet ironically Carly herself can't ever be with the man who really turns her on, Jason the One.

[P3pp3rb1rd]

The whole Oscar-Joss (OsJoss?) couplehood is freakish for me. Oscar would be far more believable as a transgender or gay person struggling to discover his sexual identity. He seems so much younger than Joss--babyish, almost. Furthermore, showing their mothers gossiping and giggling about their nascent pubescent romantic feelings, and then approving the match, is ludicrous. A far more convincing story would be a solid friendship of the kids, having each other's back and respecting each other. Joss could be the only one who understands Oscar's struggle, and Oscar could be the firm friend that Joss could turn to when struggling with Carly's smothering and raging borderline parenting.

[Perkie]

I'm not sure why people are talking about Nelle being Michaels aunt.  Virginia adopted Carly then later married Frank.  Frank took off when Carly was three so he was in her life for five minutes.  Nelle and Carly are nobody to each other except Nelle's dad was in Carly life for nano second l.   

 

On on a show where there is a bunch of "incestuous" relationships, (Molly is Kristina's sister as well as cousin) Michael and Nelle are not one of them.  

[ciarra]

Couldn't Drew have at least showered and changed before he flounced?

[Oracle42]

There's no time for hygiene when you need to make a dramatic exit after spending weeks being so insecure and passive aggressive that you allowed/encouraged your spouse to completely prioritize your feelings about her returned-from-the-dead spouse over her own feelings

Edited March 25, 2018 by Oracle42

[P3pp3rb1rd]

Sam is a mewling mess. She needs to take a break from both her men. Work and raise those kids by herself. Not a picnic, Honey.

Shut up, Spinelli. "The fair Samantha" can comfort her own butt. Jason needs to go with Spinelli on his heir impersonation trip to protect that fruit fly.

Can't some obliging Turkish prison give Spinelli a life-long invitation to be their guest? 

[dubbel zout]

I like Sam and Drew more than Sam and Jason, but if the latter is the only option, Sam should dump Jason, Elizabeth should dump Franco, and the women should move in together with their blended family and live the happy lives we know they would.

Carly can gnash her teeth that people aren't arranging their lives to her satisfaction.

[Hater]

1 hour ago, dubbel zout said:

I like Sam and Drew more than Sam and Jason, but if the latter is the only option, Sam should dump Jason, Elizabeth should dump Franco, and the women should move in together with their blended family and live the happy lives we know they would.

Carly can gnash her teeth that people aren't arranging their lives to her satisfaction.

You're not the only one on that, in fact Kelly Monaco has made several comments about Liz moving in with Sam.

Edited March 25, 2018 by Hater

[ciarra]

50 minutes ago, Hater said:

Liz moving in with Sam.

Who would look after the kids?

[statsgirl]

57 minutes ago, ciarra said:

Who would look after the kids?

Grandma Daycare. Where the kids not fathered by Jason already spend most of their lives.