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I am hoping that the senselessness of Budig's new role means it really is a short stint.

 

That didn't stop them from bringing literally anyone else back!

 

I do think that they are holding A Journey Of Two Jasons in their back pocket should Steve ever be free, though I wish they would forget about it. But I think for the foreseeable future (or until Steve Burton's contract is up for renewal at CBS) BM is Jason, period.

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I still think BM should have been Lucky. His absence is glaring in the terrible FLuke story and he'd be so much better than GV or JY

I'd handwave a whole bunch of crap that doesn't make any sense at all if they just made him Lucky instead and MOVED ON with this interminable story

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I am hoping that the senselessness of Budig's new role means it really is a short stint.

 

That didn't stop them from bringing literally anyone else back!

 

That went without saying! :)

 

Budig's role seems a little bit stupider, and faster, that's why I have some hope. Franco was lurking for days before he revealed himself, Nina was of course talked about for endless months, about how she loved to RUN and JUMP and DANCE in the fields with HORSES, etc etc. Budig is already at like stage 6 of her plan and it's, what, day 4?

 

Or maybe she has a 30 year contract, I dunno.

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I still think BM should have been Lucky. His absence is glaring in the terrible FLuke story and he'd be so much better than GV or JY

No more glaring than Genie's. She needs to be here for this story.  Laura spent 20+ years with the man and knows him as well as Bobbie does and definitely better than Tracy does.

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Okay, I have to ask - what gives Frick and Frack the right to just walk into a guest's suite?

Anyone who wants to bang Jake is totally justified to barge into his maybe-wife's room and interrupt what could have been a touching (figuratively and literally) reunion. It's in the city charter. Plus, this is how Carly has rolled since owning the hotel. I swear, there should be a disclaimer warning people about her barging into their rooms. Maybe on a nice plaque at the front desk. Or embroidered on a sampler.

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Anyone who wants to bang Jake is totally justified to barge into his maybe-wife's room and interrupt what could have been a touching (figuratively and literally) reunion. It's in the city charter. Plus, this is how Carly has rolled since owning the hotel. I swear, there should be a disclaimer warning people about her barging into their rooms. Maybe on a nice plaque at the front desk. Or embroidered on a sampler.

 

 

Plaque should say "The owner reserves the right to barge into any room at anytime whenever she wants".

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I've tried, but I just can't.  Samtrick has zero chemistry.  How can two such pretty people generate such little heat?  I apologize because I'm one of the viewers who originally really wanted this.  But man, it blows.  

 

Between the utter lack of all chemistry and the fact that Sam keeps droning on unromantically about Jason every time they have sex, I think this story would work better and could honestly play out about the same if Sam and Patrick were just friends.  Heck, he could even ask her to move in so that they could support each other as single parents.  Or maybe they could be deciding very slowly to try to date because they're both single parents, and friends, and then the lack of chemistry could be written into the storyline.  But whatever is going on now is not working.  Yuck.

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Ladies and gentlemen, allow to present ... Spinelli at his worst!! Grills her about her relationship with another man, physically blocks her from leaving repeatedly, tells her what's going to happen now, and the comes up with excuses for all his crap. Seriously hate him. I'm glad Maxie called him on some of it, but I wish she had just walked away.

Everyone sure is in bed a lot lately. Or, in the living room for some. You know what I mean.

I like Jake. And I don't mind Patrick. No idea why.

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Hey Carly, its the morning, so you know where your daughter is? Can you name her?

 

Her name is Avery and Michael has stolen her away to the pit of vipers knows as the Q mansion.

 

 

I do think that they are holding A Journey Of Two Jasons in their back pocket should Steve ever be free, though I wish they would forget about it. But I think for the foreseeable future (or until Steve Burton's contract is up for renewal at CBS) BM is Jason, period.

 

I saw something on another board that, if not for SBu, they are heading in the direction of, this isn't really Jason, who is he really?  Supposedly, they have it planned out until next year*, and it will be the hook Frank hopes to snare renewal with.  I take it with a large grain of salt, but at the same time, since Ron has been throwing a temper tantrum about his lost epic, Two Todds, I can see them going for it.

 

*sorry, I had to laugh at that.  When does Ron actually ever followed through with the original idea he had in his head at the start of a story? 

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I think he used fake backgrounds for all of the pictures... Then he lugged all of the equipment through the lobby of Carly's hotel

 

Got it, I didn't notice a background in the wedding picture...Makes it a little easier to swallow.   But unless Ric has a hacker on his payroll, I don't see this scheme getting very far. 

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The only way I will accept this awful fake wife story is if Ric and Hayden start banging. If they don't there is literally no point to this. I kinda like Fake Jake though. I hope they do something with him. I mean, yes, there's way too many characters, but whatever, that'll never change.

 

What the fuck was Molly wearing? A spring high school dance dress with a gray athletic coat over it? I was loling so hard. Also, why did her and Ric get matching dye jobs?

 

Jakeson is just not an interesting character at all. Why is BM playing it like Jakeson is just super annoyed that he might finally have some info about his life? His words don't match what we've seen for the past 11 hundred months. You didn't give a fuck about your prior life, buddy, or else you'd have done one damn thing to find out about it.

 

Carly and Liz barging into Hayden's hotel room was so annoying. What a bunch of assholes.

 

The Maxie/Spinelli scenes were awful, but I thought KS was really good in them.

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I saw something on another board that, if not for SBu, they are heading in the direction of, this isn't really Jason, who is he really?  Supposedly, they have it planned out until next year*, and it will be the hook Frank hopes to snare renewal with.  I take it with a large grain of salt, but at the same time, since Ron has been throwing a temper tantrum about his lost epic, Two Todds, I can see them going for it.

 

I think it's only something they're holding in reserve, not an active plan of action. It was the same way with the Todds. They waited for at least two or three years to do the similar story at OLTL, through at least two separate sets of negotiations with the original actor spaced out over long periods, but it was not an ongoing storyline during that time. Until they finally secured him they continued operating and writing as though the new actor was just the recast of the original role, and probably would have kept him that way if they hadn't gotten Roger Howarth back.

 

I think any fan claiming there is currently an active storyboard on the books to show Billy Miller to not be the real Jason is just an angry original recipe Jason fan who doesn't like the temporary story with Elizabeth and wants it all undone. But the fact is they can't de-Jason anyone without Steve Burton, and won't. Steve is currently under contract at Y&R and probably will be until JFP is fired or he chooses to leave, neither of which I see happening any time soon. Even if Chuck Pratt completely supplants her as EP there, as has been rumored, Pratt and Steve have a history too, and Pratt is currently having no problem pairing Burton in a central romance with leading lady Sharon Case. Unless their entire show caves in I don't think Steve Burton is going anywhere. So any Twin Jasons can't happen for at least another year or two, IMO, at minimum.

 

I do think that if it ever happens, their obvious angle will be to reveal that Billy is actually A.J.

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Jakeson is just not an interesting character at all. Why is BM playing it like Jakeson is just super annoyed that he might finally have some info about his life? His words don't match what we've seen for the past 11 hundred months. You didn't give a fuck about your prior life, buddy, or else you'd have done one damn thing to find out about it.

 

That is a pretty Jasonesque reaction, thinking about it. "Why are you bothering me, peon?" But yeah I had to laugh at that part, "so many questions!" He had no questions. Maybe one or two, some mild curiosity, but that's about it.

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That's the whole problem. He's basically Jason Morgan right now with a few more grins. He's in t-shirts, he's noncommittal and the whole town inexplicably worships him.

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That's the whole problem. He's basically Jason Morgan right now with a few more grins. He's in t-shirts, he's noncommittal and the whole town inexplicably worships him.

Give Billy the Emmy already!

And, yeah, Jake is Jason. I think it's a bit premature to say that Frank & Ron are trying to erase the entire thing.

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Wait! Didn't Helena say that Jake was Jason? Believe me I would love it if it turns out Jake is AJ. If only to see the look on Carly's face when she realizes that the great guy  she just knows is honorable and one of her best friends is actually AJ.

 

But between Helena's admission, the stupid figurine, Jake's so-called "skills" as a mercenary- I don't know how they can make him someone other than Jason. 

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Maybe he'll seem less boring/passive once he's doing something other than romance.

I want him to not be Jason because I like BM. This character is boring and BM is capable of better.

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Sam keeps droning on unromantically about Jason every time they have sex

 

Or Silas. Good thing Patrick can be distracted with a blow job.

 

It looked more like RiH in Jake's fake wedding photo than it looked like BM. LOL at Ric playing wedding photographer.

 

Carly and Liz barging into Hayden's hotel room was so annoying.

 

I enjoyed Carly steamrollering Liz to join her. It's not as if Liz wasn't dying to see what was going on. Those two kind of work for me as Mutt and Jeff.

 

Unless their entire show caves in I don't think Steve Burton is going anywhere.

 

Who's to say he'd return to GH with Frank and Ron in charge?

 

Spinelli leaving Ellie was the best thing to ever happen to her. Spin and Maxie bring out the worst in each other, but he hasn't even tried to be a better person around her. He's a total asshole in every possible way.

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Spinelli leaving Ellie was the best thing to ever happen to her. Spin and Maxie bring out the worst in each other, but he hasn't even tried to be a better person around her. He's a total asshole in every possible way.

 

I can't believe BA (who I quite like as an actor, although I loathe Spinelli) came back for this beyond-horrible crap he's currently playing.  But I guess the Uber/Lyft thing wasn't enough to pay all the bills, and a guy's gotta work where he can get it.

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I've tried, but I just can't.  Samtrick has zero chemistry.  How can two such pretty people generate such little heat?  I apologize because I'm one of the viewers who originally really wanted this.  But man, it blows.

 

I feel exactly the opposite. I dreaded Samtrick, but since I've seen them together, I think they generate a lot of heat. I don't like their storyline. That is, I'd rather they'd have had a romance written for them, than this OH IT'S A FRIENDSHIP/NO, IT'S HOT SEX thing, but I still think they have great chemistry, and JT hasn't looked this alive in years.

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I've tried, but I just can't.  Samtrick has zero chemistry.  How can two such pretty people generate such little heat?  I apologize because I'm one of the viewers who originally really wanted this.  But man, it blows... whatever is going on now is not working. 

 

It's not working because KeMo, while she is clearly trying, is a low-energy actress to begin with and JT has no interest in making it work.  And really, why should he?  No matter how badly he tanks the scenes he's in, he'll still make the short list for Emmy prenoms while actors that are clearly trying get shut out, so there is absolutely no downside to him not bothering to try and put over the material.

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It's not working because KeMo, while she is clearly trying, is a low-energy actress to begin with and JT has no interest in making it work. And really, why should he? No matter how badly he tanks the scenes he's in, he'll still make the short list for Emmy prenoms while actors that are clearly trying get shut out, so there is absolutely no downside to him not bothering to try and put over the material.

I'll LOL if he's nominated for anything this year, especially if it's a scene involving KeMo. They've had absolutely no Emmy worthy stuff together at.all. Patrick is barely on-screen!

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I'm at a point right now where if they said Jake Doe was really Lucky, I would believe and accept it.

I think that "Jake" ultimately being revealed as someone other than Jasus has nothing to do with SBu and everything to do with whether or not BM decides to leave. It would be really easy to explain all this Jason crap away as Helena/Victor implanted fake memories to fuck with Jason's friends and family because of course for reasons.

If Billy does decide to exercise an out, they'll reveal "Jake" is Lucky or AJ or some Cassadine soldier and he'll leave town to 'find himself'. And the mystery of what happened to the real Jason will remain a mystery. Did he actually die in the harbor? Or was that actually him in the car with Robin, and if so where is he?

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I feel exactly the opposite. I dreaded Samtrick, but since I've seen them together, I think they generate a lot of heat. I don't like their storyline. That is, I'd rather they'd have had a romance written for them, than this OH IT'S A FRIENDSHIP/NO, IT'S HOT SEX thing, but I still think they have great chemistry, and JT hasn't looked this alive in years.

I think they're adorable and they have quite a bit of chemistry until they're in a love scene -then...not so much.

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I think they're adorable and they have quite a bit of chemistry until they're in a love scene -then not so much.

 

This!  I like Patrick, and I thought they had a ton of friend chem.  And they're so pretty together!  And then they start making out, and it's so uncomfortable I start wondering if they've recently discovered they're actually siblings in real life.  

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This!  I like Patrick, and I thought they had a ton of friend chem.  And they're so pretty together!  And then they start making out, and it's so uncomfortable I start wondering if they've recently discovered they're actually siblings in real life.  

 

 

Eeeeewwwww.

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I don't think this show even needs Jason Morgan anymore anyway. Let Billy out of his contract or make him someone else. He generates no heat with whatever it is that Ron and Frank are having him do. The show took a decidedly wrong turn with the GreenHaydenLee story. Billy Miller seems like a nice guy but I havent really seen any real personality in six months.

 

The whole episode would have been saved for me if Jake had looked at the pictures and said "man, I gained a lot of weight since we got married. What the hell have you been feeding me, girl?"

 

And yes, Carly, if anyone in Port Charles can sniff out a con artist, it's you. Because, you know, birds of a feather...

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I think they're adorable and they have quite a bit of chemistry until they're in a love scene -then not so much.

 

I tend to think more this way. I've don't think JT tanks scenes, either. I don't think KeMo can "act" sexy. Or, rather her acting sexy is just kind of standing close or lying close to someone and saying her lines while she waits for her pheromones to do their work. I've never seen her in a smokin' hot scene with anyone that I can recall. 

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This!  I like Patrick, and I thought they had a ton of friend chem.  And they're so pretty together!  And then they start making out, and it's so uncomfortable I start wondering if they've recently discovered they're actually siblings in real life.

*DEAD*

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I renew my wish that Rebecca Budig be revealed to be repulsed by Jake(son).  Like tomorrow, when Carly and Liz start screeching, I want her to turn away from them and make a "yuck!" face because she had to kiss him. 

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I don't think this show even needs Jason Morgan anymore anyway. Let Billy out of his contract or make him someone else. He generates no heat with whatever it is that Ron and Frank are having him do. The show took a decidedly wrong turn with the GreenHaydenLee story. Billy Miller seems like a nice guy but I havent really seen any real personality in ..

I thought Billy & Becky initially had chemistry, but whatever was there isn't anymore and he hasn't been able to generate with any of his scene partners from Kelly to Laura to Constance to Mo to Rebecca; he is dull opposite everyone. Even KA was able to generate chemistry with Erik Valdez, Brandon Brash, and Roger & Kassie.

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I think he actually has chemistry with most people. It's the bland typical Jason "adored hunk" role they currently have him in - with an added tired triangle courtesy of Ron - that is so boring. I didn't find him nearly this boring three months ago.

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I had to laugh at Carly today. These are the days when I cant help but love the character, not because I sympathize with her,but because she is so damn entertaining. She is such a hot mess of self absorption and entitlement and instrusivness. She made Liz look like the sane, sensible one, which based on the last few days, is saying plenty. I hope Carly finds out that Ric is behind all this and finally goes ballistic on his ass. Should be entertaining, especially if it ends in hate sex.

 

Ric would make a good porno director.

 

On a purely shallow note, RH did look especially good today. Don't know if it was the suit, or the hair, but he looked younger than he has looked lately.

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Nina looked nice today

 

I resented the way she looked, trying to make her seem like she's this innocent little soccer mom with a cute spring outfit. STFU, you batshit crazy psycho bitch from hell. I want her locked in a coffin and buried alive. And about her hair, it's like 20 different lengths. Pick one and go with it. Makes her look like she's trying too hard.

 

Pretty convenient that Hayden was staying at the MC where Jake's #1 groupie can barge in unannounced with his #1 stalker. I'm with Bawoman though, I thought Carly was entertaining as well. She was having absolutely none of Hayden being Jake's wife. And her "why haven't you thanked me?" was hilarious.

 

I thought Haley looked beautiful, but I didn't pay much attention to what she was wearing. They've made it a point to say that she's going off to college soon, so I'm wondering if she'll be around much. Yeah, she could go to PCU, but I don't get the feeling that TR is sticking around either. I really miss Lexi.

 

I fell asleep during the Spixie talk. What the hell was Frank tweeting about that this was a must see episode that should be watched live? Um, maybe if you have insomnia. Literally nothing happened. The best thing was the fake photoshoot. I was disappointed that we got the mountain pics, but no beach ones. C'mon guys, I'm sure Ric would have sprung for beach balls as well.

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I tend to think more this way. I've don't think JT tanks scenes, either. I don't think KeMo can "act" sexy. Or, rather her acting sexy is just kind of standing close or lying close to someone and saying her lines while she waits for her pheromones to do their work. I've never seen her in a smokin' hot scene with anyone that I can recall. 

 

 

I never saw much chemistry between Jasam but I blamed it on the Borg. I have to admit that I might have been mistaken.

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I tend to think more this way. I've don't think JT tanks scenes, either. I don't think KeMo can "act" sexy. Or, rather her acting sexy is just kind of standing close or lying close to someone and saying her lines while she waits for her pheromones to do their work. I've never seen her in a smokin' hot scene with anyone that I can recall. 

 

Are you forgetting the hot but? Sacrilege!

 

And as unappealing and unsexy as I find SBu, I thought that reunion in Mexico was pretty damn hot. Maybe that's an UO around these parts.

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I did like Maxie going off on Spinelli about challenging Nathan to a boxing match, and treating her like an object without feelings. He got his assumption that they would now be a family shoved where the sun don't shine. 

 

I thought the scene was great and well acted by KS and felt more real than any of the contrived angst between her and Nathan for the past year. Bradford is a better actor and therefore a better scene partner for KS to work with than RP.

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I just finished watching the last two days of GH.  Amazing, isn't it, how little actually sticks.....other that what is on the bottom of my shoe.....

Patrick is as horrid as he thinks he's hot, Julian is not as hot as he thinks, Alexis does NOT look good in her sexaaaaaaay giggle phase, Molly has still NOT become that organ donor I just KNOW she'd excell at, Rick has reached his sell-by date.  Oh, and I saw Maxie apparently having a conversation with a walking jello puddin' pop and THEN I saw it was Spinelli.  He always makes me wish FireStarter would drop by Port Charles, if only for a day.

 

And - my thanks to the poster who compared Luke to Elaine Stritch - we had Luuuuuuuuuke leering at and threatening his niece - and for some strange reason, using some sort of "southern"?? accent??  All I know is that while I'm sure Geary thinks he's appearing threatening and oh-so-scary, he actually reminds me of

 

Uncle%20Joe.jpg

 

There's Uncle Joe, he's a moving kinda slow, at the Junction.  PETTICOAT JUNCTION!!

 

I'm with Bawoman though, I thought Carly was entertaining as well. She was having absolutely none of Hayden being Jake's wife. And her "why haven't you thanked me?" was hilarious.

 

I agree.  This is the Carly I get a kick out of.  Oh, she's a nutjob and completely delusional, but at least in her overbearing know-it-all mood she's entertaining.  Man, it's been ages since I've said that!

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I resented the way she looked, trying to make her seem like she's this innocent little soccer mom with a cute spring outfit. STFU, you batshit crazy psycho bitch from hell. I want her locked in a coffin and buried alive.

My goodness, tvgoddess. :)

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