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11 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

I'm Canadian and I never had to wonder or worry about this stuff until I moved to the US and I still don't understand. In Canada we walk into a clinic or a hospital and we don't have to worry about how much anything costs. We don't pay.

It really doesn't need to be any more complicated than that in a modern, industrialized society, IMHO.  I'm glad that GH has decided to tackle the health care affordability issue.  However, as another poster pointed out, it really doesn't make sense with Jordan, a Police Commissioner with I'm guessing a high five-figure or low six-figure salary.

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4 hours ago, bannana said:

Canadian Health Care does not pay for meds.

That's not what I meant, I just worded it wrong.  I meant, go to the clinic, with my health card, then get my meds.  I just took a shortcut but the meaning wasn't there!!

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7 hours ago, ciarra said:

I'm waiting for Jordan's freak out moment.  Living in denial.

She's way too laid back about Drew's involvement.  So is Curtis.  Sure Drew didn't intend to harm Jordan, but wouldn't anyone harbor at least a bit of resentment?  He didn't step on her foot, he took out both of her kidneys. 

The show does not seem to care about Drew's relationship with anyone else but Friz, Oscar/Kim, and occasionally Monica.  Curtis and Drew use to be active screen partners and actual friends, unlike the contrived garbage with Franco and by extension Liz.   Now they may get a scene every two months if lucky. They've isolated the character so much and all he does is rattle off the same lines about poor Oscar and poor Friz family.

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13 hours ago, paisley said:

I'm not feeling Lulu. I know that I should, considering all the drama she's been through, but I just want her to shut up and go get some help.

This. I've felt the same way about Emme Rylan's version all along. With the Julie Marie Berman Lulu, I didn't always like things she did, but I always "bought" her reactions and emotions. This one just never gets me on her side. She didn't in the triangle with Dante and Valerie, she didn't when she found out about Charlotte and wanted to connect with her, she didn't when Maxie was freezing her out after Nathan's death, and she isn't now. She does okay when she's just "riding the middle," but when she has to play extremes, it isn't pretty. That startle response to Kevin was giggle-worthy. "Ryan! You stay away from me!" Maura West she isn't. 

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I remember in a story years ago, they explained that Mercy is a public hospital while GH is private. That's created problems in the past for some people to stay at GH. I think it's an obnoxious storyline. People love to act like the US healthcare system sucks when it really doesn't. Average wait time for an MRI here is 2 weeks. It's 6 in the UK and 10.8 in Canada. Canada has the longest wait time to see a specialist based on recent studies and it can take as many as 68 weeks to see a neurologist in the UK, even with an emergency referral. You tell an American it's an emergency and well be over a year before they see a specialist and they will hit the roof. We all have different healthcare systems and none are perfect. Each has what they do well and what they do poorly.

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2 hours ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

I remember in a story years ago, they explained that Mercy is a public hospital while GH is private. That's created problems in the past for some people to stay at GH. I think it's an obnoxious storyline. People love to act like the US healthcare system sucks when it really doesn't. Average wait time for an MRI here is 2 weeks. It's 6 in the UK and 10.8 in Canada. Canada has the longest wait time to see a specialist based on recent studies and it can take as many as 68 weeks to see a neurologist in the UK, even with an emergency referral. You tell an American it's an emergency and well be over a year before they see a specialist and they will hit the roof. We all have different healthcare systems and none are perfect. Each has what they do well and what they do poorly.

Like my other Canadian friends here, the variations in insurance coverage from hospital to hospital are very unfamiliar to me.  As for wait times in Canada, they can be annoying at times; however, I temper any annoyance by knowing that one reason I wait is that everyone is getting a fair chance to be seen - not just those with good insurance plans or private wealth.   I also know that another reason I wait is that resources are diverted when emergency situations arise.  For the most part anyone I know has praised the speed and quality of the treatment they have received in emergency and life-threatening stiuations.   I can't speak for the UK, but I do know that universal, inclusive single-payer systems can struggle to keep up with demand for services. 

But back to GH, I am curious as to why this theme was introduced right now.  And, as someone who doesn't experience these situations, I admit to being curious about how this might play out.  

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16 hours ago, Hater said:

A lot of that has to do with Monaco and Miller not being able to share scenes, so Drew has been completely written out of the story in order for Sam and Jason to work together without interference from Drew.  This is their punishment for not acting professionally.  

Drew is also only on once a week, with probably similar minimums to Roger/Becky than the loathsome foursome so again he won't be getting any time with this.  Hopefully when Oscar dies, Drew can go leave town and show up in Genoa City 2 months  later.

@AuxArx Yes Drew sent her flowers and mentioned they are there because of him.

This is why I find the the writing mean spirited. There are a million and one ways they could have brought Shilo on to this show in fact just using him as the son of one of Sam’s past cons does it. Why connect Drew at all especially if you have no intention of writing anything for that connection at all? I don’t want to be all conspiracy theory over a TVs show but it feels very “neener neener” to me. They brought Shilo on from Drew and Sam’s past yet refuse to let Drew even remotely be in the story or let Drew/Sam share scenes at all. What is that other than just purposefully being assholes? 

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A lot of that has to do with Monaco and Miller not being able to share scenes

I must have missed something. Why can't they share scenes? Or is it just the producers not wanting them to share scenes? They seem to have a lot of chemistry, which would, of course, shine a huge light on the fact that KM and SB have no chemistry - at least not anymore.

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29 minutes ago, Baxter said:

I must have missed something. Why can't they share scenes? Or is it just the producers not wanting them to share scenes? They seem to have a lot of chemistry, which would, of course, shine a huge light on the fact that KM and SB have no chemistry - at least not anymore.

Which is why they don't share a lot of scenes. It's hard enough to show Jason/Sam as the greatest love story ever told when KM looks like she'd rather be anywhere else in their scenes, why compound the problem by having her in scenes with BM/Drew also where she lights up or at least seems happy.

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10 hours ago, Ladybyrd said:

the 30ish set is very, very weak right now. How did it get this way?

The show put no effort into it. TFGH, letting the audience's knowledge of the history of the characters carry them.

2 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

That startle response to Kevin was giggle-worthy. "Ryan! You stay away from me!"

I get that was to show she has PTSD, but I wish the show had built up to that a bit more. Show her having nightmares or being startled whenever anyone touches her shoulder or something. Aside from that, I like how they're writing Kevin and how JL is playing him. He knows everyone hates him and why and doesn't try to excuse it like some people (ahem, SONNY), but he's also not letting himself be a doormat. I really hope JL submits some of this stuff next year for Emmy consideration, because he's been great.

2 hours ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

I remember in a story years ago, they explained that Mercy is a public hospital while GH is private. That's created problems in the past for some people to stay at GH.

I forgot all about that. I guess I should be glad Stella mentioned GH was out of network for Jordan, so it wasn't just a "GH is so mean" story.

1 hour ago, Aurora2 said:

But back to GH, I am curious as to why this theme was introduced right now. 

It comes up every so often when the show wants to introduce "drama." (See my earlier comment about Elizabeth and Lucky when he was shot on the job but somehow had no health coverage. He was a cop!)

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I like BM. He has no chemistry with TB. I know they are going to try to bring them together. Just no. KM does look rather bored with the whole Jason thing. More so then usual. I wish BM would just go back to Y&R. He was soooo good playing Billy Abbott. Has Oscar left the building yet? Please just go.

Also, the actor playing Shiloh plays creepy really well. I'm already affraid of getting drafted for DOD. It's like a revolving door in PC. Now, Marguax is getting sucked in to it. Isn't she a little too smart for that?

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3 hours ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

I remember in a story years ago, they explained that Mercy is a public hospital while GH is private. That's created problems in the past for some people to stay at GH.

I forgot all about that. I guess I should be glad Stella mentioned GH was out of network for Jordan, so it wasn't just a "GH is so mean" story.

I found those scenes yesterday pretty lame, as insurance companies aren't just going to be schmoozed by a social worker to let someone get treatment, paid by them, at an out of network hospital.  

19 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I like how they're writing Kevin and how JL is playing him. He knows everyone hates him and why and doesn't try to excuse it like some people (ahem, SONNY), but he's also not letting himself be a doormat. 

JL has been hitting it out of the park.  He's playing it just the right way.  Imagine if it was MB--he'd have Sonny moaning that people just needed to get over it.

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The thing about JL that I find so great is that there really are these subtle differences between "Kevin" and "Ryan posing as Kevin". They are subtle enough there we, as viewers, see it, but you also buy the idea that people should think it's the same guy. I think it takes a lot to be able to play one character and then play another character who is posing as your first character. I hope that makes sense. Outs hard to put it into words.

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11 minutes ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

The thing about JL that I find so great is that there really are these subtle differences between "Kevin" and "Ryan posing as Kevin". They are subtle enough there we, as viewers, see it, but you also buy the idea that people should think it's the same guy. I think it takes a lot to be able to play one character and then play another character who is posing as your first character. I hope that makes sense. Outs hard to put it into words.

JL slipped right back into the Ryan character like it was nothing; I'd imagine that would be hard to do as an actor when he hadn't been asked to play Ryan for almost two decades.

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Exactly, @BlancheDevoreaux. And JL isn't winking at the audience to indicate he's Ryan, and he doesn't overplay it so we (the audience) are thinking how stupid people are in-show for not noticing it's Ryan instead of Kevin. (There are plenty of other reasons for that, which don't involve JL.)

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1 hour ago, ByaNose said:

I like BM. He has no chemistry with TB. I know they are going to try to bring them together. Just no.

Agree that he has no chemistry with TB, but I'm skeptical that the show will try to push Drew and Kim as a couple. They do not have anything in common other than Oscar, and he still does not remember being in a relationship with Kim.  Seems likely Kim will lean on both Drew and Julian.

Drew, on the other hand, I think should lean on Elizabeth when his son dies. She had been raising Jake in a co-parenting situation for almost 4 years when he was declared brain dead, and certainly remembers the devastating feeling of saying good-bye to her son.  Though Oscar is a teenager, Drew has co-parenting him with Kim for less than two years, I think. Drew's pain is more comparable to Elizabeth's pain; Kim had been raising Oscar alone for 14/15 years. 

I would love to see Drew grow closer to Jake again as he is mourning his bio son. Jake is a compassionate kid who adores Uncle Drew.  Given how little Jason actually pays attention to Jake, Drew could move in to the Webber home (establishing a 3-parent household) and Jason wouldn't notice until he was invited to Jake's high school graduation. 

I read on this board that Josslyn and Robin had a conversation this week about losing your first love. Could someone tell me where that clip is on YT?

Also, was there an explanation of why Kristina wasn't at Dante's welcome home party? Given that Dante is about protecting the women in his family, and Michael said Kristina's been brainwashed, it seems likely Dante's first impulse would be to check out the situation (esp. if he wanted to compare Kristina's behavior to his own). 

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18 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Jason wouldn't notice until he was invited to Jake's high school graduation. 

Would he attend, though? Not without a lot of begging, methinks, especially if Carly and/or Sonny want him for something that day.

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8 hours ago, Perkie said:

That's not what I meant, I just worded it wrong.  I meant, go to the clinic, with my health card, then get my meds.  I just took a shortcut but the meaning wasn't there!!

But your country negotiates with Big Pharma for lower drug costs.  Again, better than what the US offers.

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Nina and Valentin are so insufferable and so smug over their insufferable cabbage patch child. When MS goes, I hope she takes her dumb as rocks, horrible parent character with her.

1 minute ago, RedheadZombie said:

But your country negotiates with Big Pharma for lower drug costs.  Again, better than what the US offers.

Yes, they do. Just as an example, I used to pay less than $4 for birth control pills.

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25 minutes ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

What the fink is with Valentine? Does he think Miss Tate is that bad or is he just trying to keep Nina happy? AND HOW ON EARTH ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE HELENA, OF ALL PEOPLE, WAS AFRAID OF HIM? 😡🙄😐

Interesting that the bullying accusation didn't bother Valentine, but the cheating did.

I'm guessing this SL is to increase support for the Willow character, who has been rather bland, and in an equally bland relationship.

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2 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I read on this board that Josslyn and Robin had a conversation this week about losing your first love. Could someone tell me where that clip is on YT?

I believe that was wishful thinking, not something that actually happened.

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7 hours ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

I remember in a story years ago, they explained that Mercy is a public hospital while GH is private. That's created problems in the past for some people to stay at GH. I think it's an obnoxious storyline. People love to act like the US healthcare system sucks when it really doesn't. Average wait time for an MRI here is 2 weeks. It's 6 in the UK and 10.8 in Canada. Canada has the longest wait time to see a specialist based on recent studies and it can take as many as 68 weeks to see a neurologist in the UK, even with an emergency referral. You tell an American it's an emergency and well be over a year before they see a specialist and they will hit the roof. We all have different healthcare systems and none are perfect. Each has what they do well and what they do poorly.

Despite longer wait times, Americans have higher maternal and fetal death rates than Canadians.  The US also scores pretty low when compared to all Western countries with national healthcare.  It's a dirty not so secret secret.  We have the best healthcare, which is applied unequally, and not as well as it should be.   And that doesn't even go into how your income determines level of care, and how areas of poverty have difficulty finding a doctor.  Food deserts often have doctor deserts.

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Lulu has some serious Lauren Conrad vibes with those mascara tears this week. AND now she'll be “the girl who didn’t go to Paris”!

As usual, Maura West is so good. Also as usual, Nina and Valentin are the worst. And of course I’m spinning cartwheels over a third day of Lucy this week.

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I want Laura and Ava to team up to do something about Ryan since no one else is. If nothing else, it will keep Laura out of Carly's and Sonny's clutches.

I know this is to ramp up the drama when we find out that Willow is Nina's real daughter (will Nina rejected her and take Sasha instead) but I hate Nina so much, it's tainting Charlotte too. I wish someone had pointed out, maybe Willow's rep, that Nina and Valentine were bullying Willow.

If Charlotte is really so far advanced of her grade 3 class, then Valentin should definitely encourage Lulu to take her to Paris. Besides, they could use someone who actually speaks French.

The "romance" on today's episode, Peter getting jealous over Chad asking Maxie out and Finn preparing to propose to Anna, was a good cure for insomnia.

3 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Drew, on the other hand, I think should lean on Elizabeth when his son dies. She had been raising Jake in a co-parenting situation for almost 4 years when he was declared brain dead, and certainly remembers the devastating feeling of saying good-bye to her son.  Though Oscar is a teenager, Drew has co-parenting him with Kim for less than two years, I think. Drew's pain is more comparable to Elizabeth's pain; Kim had been raising Oscar alone for 14/15 years.

They will never do it if it interferes with Franco&Liz. The show won't let go of that in the near future.

14 hours ago, bannana said:

Canadian Health Care does not pay for meds.

It does in some places. In Ontario the Trillium Fund will pay for people of low income and many drugs for the 65+.  Until the Ford govt changed it, all prescriptions for people under 25 were covered. (Now they are unless the person has private health insurance.)

8 hours ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

 Average wait time for an MRI here is 2 weeks. It's 6 in the UK and 10.8 in Canada. Canada has the longest wait time to see a specialist based on recent studies and it can take as many as 68 weeks to see a neurologist in the UK, even with an emergency referral.

The Fraser Institute, where those Canadian numbers come from, has an agenda to privatize health care in Canada. I waited less than 2 weeks for an MRI and it wasn't even an emergency. There is a lot of triaging that goes on but Canadians tend to be okay with it because they know that the sickest get treated first but no one gets turned away or goes bankrupt.

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27 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

I know this is to ramp up the drama when we find out that Willow is Nina's real daughter (will Nina rejected her and take Sasha instead) but I hate Nina so much, it's tainting Charlotte too. I wish someone had pointed out, maybe Willow's rep, that Nina and Valentine were bullying Willow.

If Charlotte is really so far advanced of her grade 3 class, then Valentin should definitely encourage Lulu to take her to Paris. Besides, they could use someone who actually speaks French.

Lulu leaving Laura to do the custody switch-off weeks with Valentin bugged me. First of all, what does that say to Charlotte that Rocco gets to go with Mommy and she doesn't?

Second of all, when Valentin wanted to know Lulu's itinerary for her trip even when she wasn't taking Charlotte, I wouldn't have put it past him or Nina to want to know this to arrange an accident so Lulu doesn't come back.

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5 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

First of all, what does that say to Charlotte that Rocco gets to go with Mommy and she doesn't?

Valentin takes Charlotte all over the place without Rocco and Lulu, so I'd say it's not a huge deal. Charlotte gets plenty of attention and perks. Poor Rocco, stuck over at the Qs with Joe's overworked nanny, deserves a little fun with Lulu. IOW, this doesn't bother me a single bit.

5 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

Second of all, when Valentin wanted to know Lulu's itinerary for her trip even when she wasn't taking Charlotte, I wouldn't have put it past him or Nina to want to know this to arrange an accident so Lulu doesn't come back.

LOL. I feel like Valentin and Lulu are in a state of armed neutrality by this point, even if he doesn't do enough to calm Nina down when she gets worked up about Charlotte's "strength" not being praised enough. Shut it, Nina.

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6 hours ago, BlancheDevoreaux said:

The thing about JL that I find so great is that there really are these subtle differences between "Kevin" and "Ryan posing as Kevin". They are subtle enough there we, as viewers, see it, but you also buy the idea that people should think it's the same guy. I think it takes a lot to be able to play one character and then play another character who is posing as your first character. I hope that makes sense. Outs hard to put it into words.

I'm definitely having weird brain blips the way I did with Orphan Black where on some level I forget it's the same person playing the roles, because the actor is so superior. There's all this talk about whether Ryan's dead and for a split second I think, "So has the actor left for good, or what?"

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On 4/3/2019 at 5:38 PM, YaddaYadda said:

I officially crossed the line into full on creeped out today. The way he was around her while she wore the scarf was so heavily sexual. The vibes were there before, but today was just really messed up.

I won't be surprised if Sam almost gets raped or gets raped after today's episode. 

Did anyone else notice the way his hands hovered over her boobs while she was blindfolded? Whether it was the actor's choice or just the angle, it looked really menacing.

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On 4/4/2019 at 9:50 AM, NutmegsDad said:

Conversations I want to see:

Cameron talking with StepGramps Scotty. There's a lot of Scotty in Cam, and he, rather than Franco, can attest and relate.

Joss talking with Robin after Oscar finally goes off Upstairs at the Quartermaines. She lost her first love to an illness as well.

Also, I think Krissy's Big Secret is that her grandfather tried to freeze the world.

Unless it's there to prop up Sonny/Jason, and then there's Dante, but he/the WSB needed Sonny's help.

 

Scotty is a great idea. I was just thinking that there are really no appropriate men in Cam's immediate orbit that make sense. Franco was a terrible idea because as a teen he was probably either gaslighting young women into sex -- or worse -- or a creepy incel type. Drew and Jason literally don't remember being teenage boys. Lucky could do it, but it would probably be weird by Sype. 

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Is Port Charles so small that there's only one 3rd Grade (or whatever grade she's in) class that Charlotte can be in?  If not, can't she just be moved to a class with a different teacher?

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23 minutes ago, AuxArx said:

Is Port Charles so small that there's only one 3rd Grade (or whatever grade she's in) class that Charlotte can be in?  If not, can't she just be moved to a class with a different teacher?

How about a snooty school for rich kids.  Surely Spencer never went to school with the townies.

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"I'm not looking forward to all the gossip about my marriage." Oh, Lulu. Your mother and Maxie are the only ones who remotely care about your marriage besides you. 

NINA. SHUT UP. OMG, she's SO annoying. And are we supposed to think Lulu knows about this meeting and declined to attend? It's about Charlotte, so I'd think she'd want to be there even if she didn't share Nina and Valentin's concerns if only to say that much. Ugh, this is so stupid.

At least the principal backed Willow publicly.

36 minutes ago, RedheadZombie said:
1 hour ago, AuxArx said:

Is Port Charles so small that there's only one 3rd Grade (or whatever grade she's in) class that Charlotte can be in?  If not, can't she just be moved to a class with a different teacher?

How about a snooty school for rich kids.  Surely Spencer never went to school with the townies.

Spencer did go to school with the townies, to his everlasting regret. 

I don't know why Valentin doesn't homeschool Charlotte for the rest of the year if he's so sure Willow will be so biased against her.

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32 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

I don't know why Valentin doesn't homeschool Charlotte for the rest of the year if he's so sure Willow will be so biased against her.

That would require actually putting in an effort by Valentin and Nina.  Although I guess they have lots of staff (theoretically) and can just add a tutor to the mix.

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Not sure what the need for these scenes was because they recovered ground the show covered on Monday, but the Lucy/Kevin scenes were sweet, it's nice seeing them being friends again.

And hee at Kevin running into red tape reclaiming his life from his evil twin brother, oh soaps! 

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38 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

And hee at Kevin running into red tape reclaiming his life from his evil twin brother, oh soaps! 

"I can't get two-factor authentication because his phone is at the bottom of the Niagara Riv—[click]" Poor Kevin. 

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I love how the writers just decided to flip everything, re Nina/Valentin/Lulu goes.  Now suddenly Lulu and Nina are antagonistic to each other and Valentin is acting like an irritated chihuauha with Willow. 

Also, as has been noted, isn't there another 3rd grade class Charlotte can be moved to for the piddly couple months left of the school year? 

I find the notion of Ryan amputating his own hand sort of funny, in a macabre way.  But, hey, at least now the PC townsfolk can tell the difference between him and Kevin. 

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As a school administrator, I can tell you that 1. Not one teacher would be fired in a public school because one set of parents demanded it (unless, of course, something illegal happened). 2. With that much animosity, Charlotte would be moved to another teacher ASAP. I would do that simply to protect the teacher. That whole scene irritated me so much. 

Aside from all of that, why isn't Charlotte in private school if they are so unhappy with her teacher/school?

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I was watching with my husband today (oh, the things he’s willing to do for me!) and this was our conversation:

Mr. Helens: Why don’t they put her in private school? They’re rich.

Me: I don’t think they have private schools in Port Charles. At least, no one ever goes to one.

Mr. Helens: So send her off to boarding school. You know, with that brat. (Spencer)

Me: You need to write this show!!

Because that is an excellent idea. Ship her off and keep them both there until they graduate. Maybe they’ll be (slightly) less annoying by then.

My other take from today was: Now that Ryan is missing a hand, I guess Kevin doesn’t have to get the tattoo anymore. 

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9 hours ago, OnceSane said:

Please take the U.S. vs. Canada health care discussion to the Small Talk thread.

Oops, read this after I posted, apologies @OnceSane.  If you can move my post, that would be appreciated.

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8 hours ago, DanaMB said:

As a school administrator, I can tell you that 1. Not one teacher would be fired in a public school because one set of parents demanded it (unless, of course, something illegal happened). 2. With that much animosity, Charlotte would be moved to another teacher ASAP. I would do that simply to protect the teacher. That whole scene irritated me so much. 

Aside from all of that, why isn't Charlotte in private school if they are so unhappy with her teacher/school?

Hey, don't foist her on us! Just because you're paying tuition doesn't mean we're your employees. The first paragraph, though, totally agree.

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11 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Now suddenly Lulu and Nina are antagonistic to each other and Valentin is acting like an irritated chihuauha with Willow. 

This.  I was so confused, by Lulu/Nina, Valentin/Willow and Peter/Anna, who last we saw he was pissed at her for dumping him and she was all crying about it, even though a month before they seemed to have moved past it.  And now they were all chummy chummy to the point where he's telling her that he has feeligns for Maxie and she's telling him to go for it.  I kept thinking this episode was bizarro/schizophrenic day.  

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9 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

And what happened with the whole Anna/Alex memory thing, that's just done?

No....it's coming up again. I'll put the rest in the spoiler thread.

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I feel like the GH anniversary episode really hit the mark with a bunch of scenes: loved the Lesley-Laura chat in the chapel, Monica and Lesley snarking at each other,  Lucy and Laura both trying to be kind/consoling to Scotty in his grief and regrets regarding Gail, Bobbie and Felicia talking about their daughters and the Tony mention, and the Elizabeth-Bobbie and Elizabeth-Epiphany scenes. Elizabeth touching on her history with Lucky and Bobbie, and telling Bobbie she was an inspiration, is the most I've liked both characters in quite a while because their scene(s) were not about propping Franco or Carly/Corinthos Family. It was a much appreciated reminder that Elizabeth and Bobbie both had lives, careers and relationships in Port Charles for decades before they ever connected with Franco or Carly.  

I think all of the characters except for Epiphany, Sonny and Julian had some sort of history with or connection to Gail.  What took me out of the scenes slightly was seeing Sonny and Julian there. 

Sonny got Gail's late granddaughter Karen to take drugs and also caused her friends/colleagues the Quartermaines a lot of pain, so I can't imagine Gail wanting him there. And Gail did not know Julian. I don't buy that Gail requested Sonny and Julian's presence but not Robin's.  Robin should have come from Berkeley for this episode; I wanted her to have a moment of reflection with Monica over the loss of Alan and how he was there for her when he told her she was HIV+. It was rather insulting that Sonny paused at the HIV wing sign with his name on it, but didn't text or call Robin.  Because the writers have to remind us that Sonny is more important than Alan or Robin, characters who were in Port Charles long before he was and who were both actual doctors on a show called "General Hospital." 

I'm wondering: did anyone else find it ironic that Elizabeth spoke to Bobbie about wanting Aiden to be "surrounded by love" and yet Bobbie, Lucky's aunt, didn't encourage her to/didn't volunteer to ask Lucky to return for Aiden? To me, that is a glaring oversight like Bobbie not being present to support L&L2 during the "Jake is dead" storyline. Aiden is in pain from being bullied and Cam's dealing with some stuff - these are concerns their dad should be addressing with Elizabeth. I thought it was gross and highly inappropriate for a former sexual assaulter and rape enabler to have the  women/sex talk with a teenager at the  request of the teenager's rape survivor mother.  The only good part about it was Cam's incredulous/horrified reaction to Franco of all men trying to have that talk with him.  I wish Cam had called his mom and Franco out on the insanity and hypocrisy of Franco having "the talk" with him.

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