S14.E05: Gunn And Heid

[yeswedo]

Tensions arise when the designers are split into two teams to battle for their fabrics in a paintball competition; the teams receive a surprise.

[awaken]

Something is seriously off with Amanda's coloring. Either the hair dye, fake tan, eyebrow penciling, or frosted lipstick. It's all so "off".

Where is Candice from? She had such a particular accent that I can't place.

Swapnil is a beautiful man.

Blake is a sniveling, weak chinned little kid.

Omg they could not care less about Liddy from Sally beauty taking up precious time with nail art!!

Edited September 4, 2015 by awaken

[susannot]

Swapnil in that white jumpsuit and blue bandanna was so fine that I can't even stand it.

Did Blake just say that no one in Ohio gets fashion? I hate the little princess.

[nottopbravo]

Was that the stupidest challenge in Project Runway history, or what?

[susannot]

I take it back. I LOVE the fact that Blake stood up for Ashley. Very strongly, too. And so did Edmond.

[farmgal4]

Something is seriously off with Amanda's coloring. Either the hair dye, fake tan, eyebrow penciling, or frosted lipstick. It's all so "off".

Where is Candice from? She had such a particular accent that I can't place.

Swapnil is a beautiful man.

Blake is a sniveling, weak chinned little kid.

Omg they could not care less about Liddy from Sally beauty taking up precious time with nail art!!

I just came here to ask if Ashley has some sort of liver disease? She is literally orangey-yellow. She's either eating truckloads of carrots and/or sweet potatoes or she needs to get to a doctor ASAP, because her liver is failing, seriously.

I take it back. I LOVE the fact that Blake stood up for Ashley. Very strongly, too. And so did Edmond.

I couldn't stand Blake until he did that and tonight, Blake is my man!

[dgpolo]

I think Candice should have been called out because she 'took the lead' and nothing worked out, if she was going to claim to know best, to go to each designer and tell them what to do or not to do then she should have been called on that, whether or not her design was OK, which I don't think it was, that top was very poorly constructed.

On the flip side of that, Swapnil seemed to be the one to take the lead for the other team and he was totally supportive and helpful. I hope he gets the win.

I think Ashley would have looked better if she had just stood strong, pointed out the good things of her design and construction and placed some blame for the ruined fabric.

[farmgal4]

Tim will save Ashley if she gets voted off IMO.

[leighdear]

Sorry designers, but a little paintball is a small price to pay, because FASHION is PAIN!  *LOL*

 

The Boys + Merline.   How awesome is that name for a fashion line?  

 

Gorgeous.  I liked every piece.  Even twee little Blake's dress didn't suck, but he needs to STFU.  And I'm still loving Swapnil over & above anybody else. 

 

Laurie is a gossipy little back-stabbing bitch.  Straight up.  And Ashley & her last pick status, and "I'm so done" drama was just pathetic.  She was just waiting for a chance to scream "Bullies!", and as soon as she didn't get her way and didn't have her ass kissed, the persecution complex came out and she got combative.  Yes, she won 1 challenge on her own, but SHARED the 2nd win with Candice.  You didn't get both solo, sweetie.  Step off and get a grip.  

 

For the ladies, their clothes all matched Kelly Osbourne's hair.  And if they didn't want Candice to lead, then they should have FREAKIN.SAID. SOMETHING.  Candice took the lead because nobody else stepped up.  

 

Edmond & Swapi knocked it out of the park. 

Edited September 4, 2015 by leighdear

[farmgal4]

I think Candice should have been called out because she 'took the lead' and nothing worked out, if she was going to claim to know best, to go to each designer and tell them what to do or not to do then she should have been called on that, whether or not her design was OK, which I don't think it was, that top was very poorly constructed.

On the flip side of that, Swapnil seemed to be the one to take the lead for the other team and he was totally supportive and helpful. I hope he gets the win.

I think Ashley would have looked better if she had just stood strong, pointed out the good things of her design and construction and placed some blame for the ruined fabric.

I predict Swapnil for the win, as in winning this season's Project Runway.

[FormerMod-a1]

Swapnil is never going to win, is he?

[Straycat80]

The blue splatter teams designs were pretty and classy. Blake is weinie, but he's a good artist. I wish he'd stop acting so stupid, it's not cute. Poor Swapnil loses again but Edmond did deserve the win.

I hate Kelly Osbourne but she was right. The girl team was a bitch fest. I hate schoolyard picks and I can't believe they picked Ashley last. I felt so bad for her. I thought their collection as a whole did not turn out as bad as I thought it would. In the workroom the fabric all looked like an Easter bunny puked all over everything. Not that some of those designs were good but there were some that weren't that bad either IMO.

I thought Kelly would have liked the purple collection because...well, she was sitting there with purple hair. Amanda deserved to go home, she did make the same dress twice and both were not too good.

[susannot]

I'm calling it--Edmund and Swapnil! I will have a fashion and man meltdown.

[avecsans]

It's so disgusting that Heidi and the producers recognized Ashley's insecurity and exploited it constantly throughout the episode. Chances are it's not the first time she felt left out and they jumped on that as a source of drama. I knew as soon as Heidi mentioned Her "surprise " when they chose teams that this would be the theme.

While I am complaining, can I say that I loathe Kelly Osbourne? For someone with no discernible talent, she sure is smug. Not to mention condescending.

The manicures that they insisted on showing off were so cheap and tacky. Who wants nails like that?

Nina always gets her way, doesn't she? Bye, Amanda. Your demise was inevitable.

Loved loved loved Edmond's and Swapnil's dresses. They should just declare them the final two right now.

Edited September 4, 2015 by avecsans

[Kitty Redstone]

I'm reaffirming my love for Laurie and Ashley, but taking back my love for Candice and Kelly.  The Romulan one is especially dead to me.  It was hilarious that they put her on the bottom of the bottom.

 

I'm on the fence about Lindsey, but guessing that she'll be around for awhile since she looked different in one of her talking heads?

 

That Amanda just flat out refuses to take any responsibility for her shitty, shitty designs.  She declined throughout the whole process, continued it on the runway, and kept it up after getting auffed.  When Kelly Osbourne was telling them, hey, you all failed as a team, Amanda had the nerve to stand there shake her head!  Who else does she think should be responsible for the look she created?  What an asshole.  This is one of the few times I agree with Nina.  Amanda, you and your tent aesthetic suck.

 

Blake won some points for standing up for Ashley, but I still don't like him.

 

Also still can't stand  Jake or Joseph, whose disdain for women is quite stunning.  Men who dislike women, but try to control them through the clothes they wear, are really just ... ugh.  He's not even worth analyzing. 

 

As for the looks, only Swapnil's and Edmond's were anything special.  Everything else was either meh or horrible. 

 

And finally, I'm so over grown women being called girls.  Just stop it.

[dbell1]

Wow! Ashley must really be feared by the bitch club. They tossed her under the Easter egg bus. Amanda going was the right decision. And her final comments about it not being her fault? Um, who sewed it?

I've never agreed with Kelly Osbourne before tonight AND I actually loved Blake standing up for Ashley, so it's totally opposite night!

Kudos to the boys and Marlene team. But I could have done without the flowers. Some of those blooms resembled things I wore in the early 80's.

Swapnil was robbed again.

[CraftyHazel]

Poor, dreamy Swapnil. Always a runner-up. I hope with all my heart that he is this season's Dmitry, who got no love until like, episode nine or so, and then won the whole thing. Because the only designer/man I adore nearly as much as Dmitry is Swapnil!

The schoolyard pick was pretty weird...I thought, like Ashley, that Candace would have picked her! They worked well together the last time, and knowing it was a TEAM challenge, why would you take the bottom-dwelling Amanda if you didn't have to??

*Edited because I misspelled Dmitry.

Edited September 4, 2015 by Marmiarmo

[smartyshorts]

We got it all tonight. Picking my teams by playground rules, dodge/paint ball. Someone just being way to smart for the room (Candace), the "it's not my fault" loser and even.. the girl who gets along  with all the guys! 

I am glad Laurie said.. something... because that San Francisco Lady story was just a hot mess (Candace again). And seems like they were all secretly prepared to Dump Ashley under a Rickshaw. I am so tired of " thrown under the bus ".  I thought Candace and Ashley considered themselves friends of sorts after their win together. 

Kelly really should've gone, but I guess Amanda had been on the bottom too many times to ignore. 

[DHDancer]

Re Ashley's color: you could tell it was makeup: tears don't leave streaks like that if it was her skin color.

 

Anyone else notice the very quick "oops" moment when Blake went to cuddle up to Ashley's boobs after defending her and she reached out to draw him in...had to laugh.

 

I agree that Candace needed the biggest ding for failure to create or foster a vision.  And I think the judges got that (I think more came out on the runway than the editors left us with).

 

The Boys (and Merline) did good:  Nice clothes, lovely print, and excellent use of the source overalls.

Edited September 4, 2015 by DHDancer

[HunterHunted]

Amanda was absolutely the correct person to go home only because anyone other than Amanda and Lindsay might have prompted Tim to use his save. We've got a lot more dead weight before Tim can bust that out. Amanda and the mean girls have no clue how odious they came across. When Amanda announced that she was auffed, her girls were upset and everyone else stood up to be polite.

I really don't get Kelly's aesthetic. I always think that's she's younger than she is because who has such nostalgia for a decade you lived through. Half the fugly shit she wears and designs looks like it would be on Shop Jeen and that always makes me think that Kelly is 24.

I think Swapnil's didn't win because it looked good from far away, but you really had to get in very close to notice all of the details. Whereas Edmond's was very good from far away and up close. It also looked like it had a certain lightness that Swapnil's lacked. I loved Swapnil's, but it looked a little overwrought until they pointed out the shirt turned into a pocket.

Edited September 4, 2015 by HunterHunted

[Honey]

I really like Ashley, but really, someone had to be picked last.  What do people see in Swapnil?  I don't think he's attractive at all, and his accent bugs me.

[leighdear]

When the school-yard pick is employed, a smart leader will chose some strong members they want to work with, and a few cannon fodder folks in case things go south.  Confidence is great, but you can't assume that a group of more than 3 people will be able to work together effectively & efficiently.  

 

We've seen very little of the individual personalities.  If Candice didn't immediately pick Ashley, maybe it's because she didn't actually LIKE working with her last week,  Yes, they won,  But that doesn't mean Candice likes Ashley and wanted to collaborate with her again. 

[Dodginblue]

I can understand on some level that Ashley was hurt at getting picked last.  I mean, I'm sure it brought back school yard memories of being picked last for some sports thing or something.  But I am surprised that she didn't take a moment and figure out that personal popularity with the other contestants isn't going to win her anything on this show and she should have just seen it as a challenge to get in there and make the best garment she could.   In some ways she was perfectly positioned to come out a "winner" even if she started out feeling like a loser because she ended up on the team that she has to have known had weaker designers on it than she is.  

 

None of the women's outfits were appealing at all.  Amanda has zero talent and seems completely delusional about her abilities.  Candice, who I thought was pretty cool and talented, took a step back tonight with her pick of Amanda and her lack of ability to mold the team into any kind of cohesive unit after putting herself into the leadership role.  And she designed an ugly outfit.  San Francisco?  Uh...no, not even close.   More like Bakersfield maybe (not to dump on Bakersfield or anything).

 

Swapnil should have won.

Edited September 4, 2015 by Dodginblue

[Thadeeeyus]

I really like Ashley, but really, someone had to be picked last.  What do people see in Swapnil?  I don't think he's attractive at all, and his accent bugs me.

 

I'm a sucker for Indian accents so that's a positive for me. 

[grumpypanda]

Ashley seems like a nice person and a talented designer but she needs to seriously butch up. It sucks getting picked last but someone is always going to be the last picked so get over it and design something awesome.

Surprisingly, I like Merline's look the best. I also liked Swapnil and Edmonds. Blake's was pretty too. It's refreshing to see the designers get along on a team challenge.

[Kanner]

I go back and forth with the Ashley issue tonight. I am so over people crying on these shows and as she mentioned someone was going to be picked last and that person was not going to feel great about it.

However, not picking a two-time winner is suspect. There was no indication that Ashley would be hard to work with. It was a love feast between her and Candice when they teamed up.

Candice and Kelly both lost points with me this episode.

After all the drama the right person went home. Amanda just hasn't shown that she could go anything.

[stanleyk]

None of the women covered themselves in glory tonight. Sure, it sucks to get picked last in what amounted to a popularity contest, but the mature reaction isn't to pout and refuse to participate and sad-sack your way through, as Ashley did. I thought Candice and Amanda and Kelly's mean girl shit was ridiculous, but worse, they seemed completely tone-deaf and clueless. And Laurie's "I'm not a gossipy person" shit-stirring was classic. Without taking the clothes into account, I was fine with any of them going home. (I admit I have a soft spot for Lindsey - I think she's funny and she's always honest about her own designs.)

 

Cheers for Swapnil and Edmond! Jeers for Joseph the chubby misogynist and his boring designs that he's so smug about, and perpetual jeers for Blake (though I will allow it was cool of him to stand up for Ashley...though she should be standing up for herself rather than crying about how everyone's so mean to her).

[backgroundnoise]

And Ashley & her last pick status, and "I'm so done" drama was just pathetic.  She was just waiting for a chance to scream "Bullies!", and as soon as she didn't get her way and didn't have her ass kissed, the persecution complex came out and she got combative.

I have to agree with this.  Someone is always going to be last (can't get around it) so just deal.  Would have been a perfect opportunity to act like a grownup among tween girls and she did just the opposite.

 

And shame on Heidi for stirring so much shit that runway must have smelled something awful.

 

I really liked the blue collection.  They were smart to pick a concept.  It amazed me that no one on team Easter Eggs thought to nail down even basic common bullet points or make sure the different kinds of garments were begin addressed.  

Edited September 4, 2015 by backgroundnoise

[Calamity Jane]

Something is seriously off with Amanda's coloring. Either the hair dye, fake tan, eyebrow penciling, or frosted lipstick. It's all so "off".

 

Do you mean Ashley?  Because I started saying that the first day of the show.  I think she'd be much prettier with much, much less on her face. 

[CraftyHazel]

I really like Ashley, but really, someone had to be picked last. What do people see in Swapnil? I don't think he's attractive at all, and his accent bugs me.

I do think he is divine to look at, no lie. And as for the accent, one of the nitpickiest, bitchiest bosses I ever had was an Indian woman (second only to the boss from Hell...er, Mexico), and I have hated hearing that accent ever since. Until Swapnil opens his mouth that is...

Edited September 4, 2015 by Marmiarmo

[backgroundnoise]

What do people see in Swapnil?

Bedroom eyes.  Looks great in leather.  On a less shallow note: Seems like a nice guy, and I've liked his designs too.

[CherryMalotte]

Oh Blake, you farm fresh little fashion twit...I have to throw out a bit of love your way tonight, with your flower power and your sticking up for Ashley.   That whole team did such a great job of listening to one another, and making sure it was a true runway show collection.

 

Really, there's no way to count how many times the Mini Malotte and I screamed at the television 'geeeeeezzz that's awful' and it wasn't just the clothes from Team Suck - there was some sort of nasty attitude going on there, I could smell it in my living room.  It's like bickering over who gets the new crayons and not the older ones, it's not life threatening but it's oh so petty.  And true, Ashley could have a thicker skin and will need it in the fashion industry, but we know by now how the manipulations and madness of these types of shows work to set up the emotions even more.  I can tell you that being picked last...it doesn't hurt now all these years later but I can remember it being painful at the time.  Now we'll just have to see how the next few episodes go, hopefully she gets mad and shakes it off rather than wallow in the mire.

 

Uh, and oh Amanda - word to you.  Yeah, it is your fault you are going home, because if your design was all that you'd still be there. She's not very self aware, and I can't see her getting much further in the business.  Unless she actually gets some talent overnight.  

 

Oh gawd, please don't let this season turn into Gretchen Fest...cause I really couldn't take that again.   

Edited September 4, 2015 by CherryMalotte

[watchintv]

 

Amanda has zero talent and seems completely delusional about her abilities

Amanda and Candice were both hoping their positive attitude that "Something cohesive will come out if we all just be creative!" would somehow coast on through to brilliance. No ideas there, just "something will happen!" and it will be magical and we'll all win and sunshine and puppies and holding hands and see Amanda, you're a great person after all! 

 

Forced group delusion. 

[sinkwriter]

Ladies, when BLAKE is the voice of reason... you've got a problem. 

 

I'm so disappointed in Candice and Kelly most especially, because I liked them and I feel like they (along with Amanda and Lindsey) ganged up on Ashley and decided to vote her out. I don't understand it. I mean, were they threatened because she had won twice already and they felt they each had a better chance if they could get rid of her? I especially don't understand this coming from Candice, given how well they seemed to work together in their pair challenge. The way each one chosen Ashley's outfit as the worst... seriously, the WORST? Of THAT group? Ashley's dress was perhaps nothing new but it was far more detailed and cleanly done than Amanda's or Kelly's or Candice's outfits. That's why it feels like such bullshit to me. I'm pissed off on Ashley's behalf, truly.

 

And I'm really glad that both Laurie and Blake sided with her and called the rest of them out for their shitty behavior.

 

The blue team did an amazing job. They came up with a solid design theme, they decided on it equally, they each did a terrific job, and they worked well together -- which surprised me, after Joseph's bullshit behavior in his pair challenge with Merline. So I was really impressed with all of them. 

 

I would have liked to have seen Swapnil win a challenge, but perhaps he'll end up being the dark horse winner in the end, like Jay Carroll was. He steered the team to pick a theme that they could all work with and make into sophisticated designs (much more than the 70's idea that Joseph or Jake had - I can't remember which), and he did an impeccable job with all the details of that dress. I did like Edmond's work too, though, so I can understand why they might have made that choice. They all did a good job. But I do think Swapnil's had more detail work in it, with that voluminous skirt, pleated bodice and the corsetry in the back, so he would have had my vote.

 

For going home... I think they made the right choice. If I were going just on the merits of the immediate challenge, I probably would have sent Kelly home because I thought her outfit was pretty bad. But Amanda has consistently been in the bottom, and whether or not she realizes it or takes responsibility for it, she belonged there. She did not do good work. I did happen to like the way her dress flowed on the runway, but I agree with Nina -- it was a tent, a well-made tent. There was no sophistication there at all. That, combined with the previous lousy work, made her a good choice to send home. Add to that her LOUSY attitude and unwillingness to take responsibility for any of her own choices... and I'm really glad she went home.

[DHDancer]

Yes, someone has to be last but its doubly worse for people who already feel on the outside like a person of size like Ashley.  I could say that perhaps the girls thought the challenge would be a physical one but I doubt that occurred to them and anyway Ashley kicked butt with the paint gun (all the guys said so).

 

But the overwhelming thing we need to keep sight of with these shows is they are producer/editor manipulated so we're seeing what story they want to tell.  Who knows how it really went down.  I don't believe for one minute that Ashley whined her way through the challenge or failed to contribute fully.

[TheSoundkeeper]

I thought the right person went home, and would have been v. happy for Swapnil to win but was fine with Edmond. Kind of wished they'd asked the top team who should win!

Choosing Amanda seemed very tactical: she's been on the bottom enough that she's really motivated to succeed, but if things go south she's the easy target. The whole Ashley thing: ugh. Lots of foreshadowing for this with all her previous talking heads about being insecure, and I totally get why she would shut down, but as Kelly O said, you have to have a thicker skin to succeed in fashion. Candice did go a little over the top with the "Do I have to design and sew it for you now?" TH, but besides that, was Laurie's secondhand "I heard them talking" the only evidence of the backstabbing plot? (I am not a Blake fan, but cheered when he came out with "You're mean girls!" If only they would take that to heart)

My mom asked how Kelly O came to be a fashion designer, and I said "Famous parent," but I thought she really did contribute some good feedback.

[bourbon]

Yes, someone had to be picked last, but this early in the competition when someone who has won or co-won 2 challenges is picked last, they can only be left to think that it wasn't because of their abilities but because of who they are as people. That's a pretty tough pill to swallow for *anyone* let alone a young woman who has probably seen her share of bullying. Ashley does need to toughen up, though, if she wants to make a living in an industry that at best ignores women her size and at worst demonizes them.

[watchintv]

 

I don't believe for one minute that Ashley whined her way through the challenge or failed to contribute fully.

Agreed. She even commented on the fact they were speaking over each other often. I also can't believe she didn't at least once say to them all they were lacking a cohesive plan. Just to say it. Even if she didn't follow up on it. 

 

She definitely shut down during the task, but I guess I feel for her, being stuck on a team who didn't pick her to begin with and wouldn't listen to her during the challenge.

[TheSoundkeeper]

Bedroom eyes.  Looks great in leather.  On a less shallow note: Seems like a nice guy, and I've liked his designs too.

Most quotable of the season so far, despite Blake's best efforts!

[sinkwriter]

 

Yes, someone has to be last but its doubly worse for people who already feel on the outside like a person of size like Ashley.  I could say that perhaps the girls thought the challenge would be a physical one but I doubt that occurred to them and anyway Ashley kicked butt with the paint gun (all the guys said so).

 

I loved that she kicked ass at paintball. That was AWESOME. She showed no mercy. She needs to channel that energy into her fight to the finals!

[Dodginblue]

Yes, someone had to be picked last, but this early in the competition when someone who has won or co-won 2 challenges is picked last, they can only be left to think that it wasn't because of their abilities but because of who they are as people. That's a pretty tough pill to swallow for *anyone* let alone a young woman who has probably seen her share of bullying. Ashley does need to toughen up, though, if she wants to make a living in an industry that at best ignores women her size and at worst demonizes them.

 

It really did have that high school vibe to it, almost a cliche really or it should be, the skinny pretty girls ganging up on the weight challenged classmate who wears her heart on her sleeve and is easily bullied because of it.   It was so transparent i almost wondered if they'd all been told to act that way.   

 

I was also taken aback by Ashley and her moment of revelation about how she now realized that she was all alone and no one would have her back.  She can't really be that naive, that she hadn't already figured that out?  It's a competition, you're not all in it together, someone has to lose every episode and no one is going to feel bad that it's you.  No one is going to help you win.   

[Bees]

I have to say I think the Guys and Merline had one of the best team runway shows that I've seen. At least that I can remember. Everything was cohesive, everybody worked well together, and everybody carried their own weight. Swapnil losing again kind of sucked but I was alright with Edmond winning. His design was gorgeous. 

 

As for the girls....I won't say it's the worst ever especially when you have the Thunder Down Under challenge to compete with (which was also the most hilarious challenge too) from that Teams season. But man did it cut close. The Mean Girl tactics were bullshit and I was so glad to see Laurie let Ashley know what she heard. I also liked how Blake stood up for Ashley too. He's still a little shit but he did good. Also, Edmond also was supportive of Ashley saying to her "Say it!" when she was going off on her rant. 

[watchintv]

 

I was also taken aback by Ashley and her moment of revelation about how she now realized that she was all alone and no one would have her back.  She can't really be that naive, that she hadn't already figured that out?

I wonder if it wasn't a case of everything having gone so perfectly so far in the competition lulling her into a false sense of camaraderie. Everyone has been very buddy buddy and sharing so far and having won so much I think she was getting a sugar coated experience up until now. (Didn't Edmund say something about people not seeming to realize this was a competition a few episodes ago?)

 

 

She seemed pretty betrayed by the school yard pick and not being Candice's first choice after having such a good working relationship together last time. 

 

She's young and took it all personally.

 

 

 

[sinkwriter]

 

I was also taken aback by Ashley and her moment of revelation about how she now realized that she was all alone and no one would have her back.  She can't really be that naive, that she hadn't already figured that out?  It's a competition, you're not all in it together, someone has to lose every episode and no one is going to feel bad that it's you.  No one is going to help you win.

 

I cringed when she said that. BUT... I felt like I understood where she was coming from because we'd been shown that she and Candice worked so well together, and there have been challenges where various competitors have cheered one another on. They may want to win, but they still band together sometimes (like the blue team did tonight, and like watchintv says above). But they were vicious with Ashley, and I just think it's weird.

 

I know Laurie warned us all when she told Ashley they were planning on throwing Ashley under the proverbial bus, but my mouth still dropped open when each person took a look at the entire pink and purple collection and declared straight-faced that Ashley's outfit was the worst. I just thought, YOU LIARS. And then I think they went after Laurie as well, because she spoke up about their behavior. It was disgusting to see. I was coming around to Candice, I really thought she should have won last week and I liked her so far, but not anymore. I thought she was delusional and cruel, and the other women fell right in line with it.

 

Laurie may have been hypocritical by saying she's not a gossip (and then turning around and gossiping about what she heard from the other girls), but to me... her behavior was far better than the others because she didn't leave Ashley to be completely ambushed. Yes, Ashley was already kind of expecting it based on everyone's treatment of her during the challenge, but Laurie telling her ahead of time probably gave her an opportunity to keep generally cool about it (I don't blame her for a few tears - this was a harsh experience) and decide what she was going to say. 

Edited September 4, 2015 by sinkwriter

[Gbb]

was Laurie's secondhand "I heard them talking" the only evidence of the backstabbing plot?

I think the fact that Kelly, Lindsey and Amanda ALL picked Ashley's as worst (when it clearly wasn't) is pretty strong evidence. And I'm convinced that had Kelly Osbourne not interrupted with "can I say something..." Right before Candice's turn, she'd have chosen Ashley too.

Yes, Ashley needs to have a thicker skin, but as a fellow person "of size" I can tell you that the little slights come often enough and most of the the time you suck it up, put on a smile and and move on. You have to or you'd be a walking pity party. But when things are going well and you're feeling good about yourself, and you get hit from out of the blue with a reminder that you're not quite like everyone else, it can hit that much harder. So I get it.

Ashley had won twice, once with Candice. She'd never once been in the bottom or had any problems working with anyone. She had to watch not only Candice pick someone other than her over and over, but the other team as well until she was the only one left. It obviously wasn't about her abilities; it had to be something about her personally. So I understand why she felt gut-kicked. Yes, someone had to be chosen last, but wouldn't you think it would be someone who had been in the bottom, or shown poor construction skills, or had difficulty working with others?

Laurie, *might* be a busy body. Time will tell if she was being honest when she said she didn't like to gossip. But I appreciate her giving Ashley a heads up about what the mean girls were planning, rather than for her to just hear her name over and over on the runway with no warning.

Speaking of "mean girls," here's words I never thought I'd say: You go, Blake!! I couldn't believe how well and how strongly he spoke up at the end. My guess is he's had his own experiences with cliquey types back in high school in Ohio. I'm going to give him another chance not to piss me off :)

And who does Swapnil have to sleep with to win a challenge?? I volunteer.

Edited September 4, 2015 by Gbb

[watchintv]

And then I think they went after Laurie as well, because she spoke up about their behavior.

- Sinkwriter 

She not only spoke out about their behaviour, she trashed their little San Fran fiction. I think it's amazing they just assumed she'd go along with the story.  I do think Laurie should have flatly said in the stewing room she wasn't going to go along with it, but yeah, it was funny how suddenly there was another target after she didn't fall into line.

Edited September 4, 2015 by watchintv

[atir]

Can someone explain the paintball challenge? Once someone got shot were they not allowed to get fabric? Could team 2 steal fabric from team 1? Merline & the boys sounds like a singing group like Gladys Knight & the Pips.

What is up with Tim's ill fitting suits?

Edited September 4, 2015 by atir

[watchintv]

Can someone explain the paintball challenge? 

There was no point. They made it seem like they were fighting for fabric, but in truth, it was a ruse to get them to shoot at each other so their overalls would be splattered with paint. The resulting mess would be their main fabric for the challenge.

[CraftyHazel]

And who does Swapnil have to sleep with to win a challenge?? I volunteer.

NEXT!! Those eyes...

[TheSoundkeeper]

I do think Laurie should have flatly said in the stewing room ...

Now that is an awesome typo. :-) Some weeks there's more stewing than others...