ML89 January 16 Share January 16 (edited) Speaking of FS Gossips, I hope in this case, they are like The Onion because, to quote the great sage John McEnroe, YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS? https://fs-gossips.com/my-task-is-to-help-these-girls-to-attain-bodies-that-they-would-like-to-see-in-the-mirror-eteri-tutberidze-became-a-mentor-in-a-weight-loss-reality-show/ Edited January 16 by ML89 correcting McEnroe quote 4 2 Link to comment
Good Queen Jane January 16 Share January 16 I don't know why backflips are still illegal. They aren't more dangerous than a quad Axel. And with the addition of choreographed elements like cartwheels and somersaults, the one-foot landing rule seems to make no sense either. Call it a leap, not a jump, and let those who want to do it add it to the program. 2 Link to comment
Avaleigh January 16 Share January 16 48 minutes ago, Good Queen Jane said: I don't know why backflips are still illegal. They aren't more dangerous than a quad Axel. And with the addition of choreographed elements like cartwheels and somersaults, the one-foot landing rule seems to make no sense either. Call it a leap, not a jump, and let those who want to do it add it to the program. I didn't think that backflips were illegal because of any potential danger factor. I thought the decision to keep them out of competition early on was to keep the sport from becoming gymnastics on ice. I'm curious now to know though what the "official" reason is. That being said, I mostly agree with you. I think my primary concern is that I don't want a backflip to become yet another element that everyone feels they have to do in order to get more points. I worry that every program will include them even from skaters who don't do them well. Still, I don't think skaters should lose points with these tumbling style elements. I just don't want a backflip to turn into an unofficial requirement. Theoretically though if people want to have the option of including a "leap" of some kind on the choreo sequence, I'm more than okay with that. It seems to excite the audience and viewers, and skating is in a place where it really needs a shot in the arm. If it takes backflips to get more people to watch, I say why not? 2 Link to comment
annzeepark914 January 16 Share January 16 Remember when Yagudin's footwork got the crowd going (was that in 2009/10 season?) It went perfectly with his music. The next season, all the men seemed to be trying to do similar footwork. At least sensational, crowd-wowing footwork requires very good skating skills. Whatever happened to the leaps that were to be allowed in ice dance? I haven't seen anything memorable (a la Charlie White 😊). 6 Link to comment
justmehere January 16 Share January 16 Oh, I am so sad. Hawayak and Baker are withdrawing from competition for the rest of the season. Not too surprising, but I had hope for Nationals. According to their Instagram post, they're evaluating future options, but this feels possibly like goodbye. They've posted video of what would have been their free dance... so, so beautiful. If they compete next season (and I dearly hope they do), I hope they keep this dance. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2ILJCgR1AS/?igsh=YTQ1aGg1ZzF5aGtj and here's the video on YouTube - for full screen, if you like: 1 4 Link to comment
KittenPokerCheater January 17 Share January 17 Are H/B injured and that is why they are withdrawing from the season, or is it general fatigue, which is also a truly valid reason? That dance looks beautiful. Link to comment
Salacious Kitty January 17 Share January 17 Kaitlyn has suffered multiple concussions. I know that's derailed them in past years. They've made no mention why they didn't compete this year. If this is it, I wish them well. I've been a fan for a long time, and they will be missed. 1 Link to comment
specialj67 January 17 Share January 17 12 minutes ago, KittenPokerCheater said: Are H/B injured and that is why they are withdrawing from the season, or is it general fatigue, which is also a truly valid reason? That dance looks beautiful. I think I read somewhere that one of them possibly was dealing with a concussion? I think? I also wouldn’t be surprised if burnout is a factor in their decision too. I loved the video they shared. It would be wonderful to see them compete with the program in the future, but if this is all we get, it is more than enough. 🫶🏻 2 Link to comment
honeywest January 17 Share January 17 Baker has been recovering from a concussion. I’m not surprised at this news, but I’m sorry to hear it. I’ve always felt they were underrated (and I loved this video). 1 Link to comment
ChicksDigScars January 17 Share January 17 I think JLB would be a great ice dance singles skater, or whatever they're coming up with. He's always been captivating to watch. 4 Link to comment
Good Queen Jane January 18 Share January 18 Gracie Gold is releasing a memoir entitled "Outofshapeworthlessloser: A Memoir of Figure Skating, F*cking Up, and Figuring It Out." The title alone makes it sound like it's worth reading. She is not competing, but will be in Columbus next week for Nationals, where she will be promoting the book and being one of the skaters in Boitano's Lounge, where for a measly $300 a night, you can meet and greet with Boitano and other former skaters. 3 Link to comment
honeywest January 18 Share January 18 https://www.nbcsports.com/olympics/news/ava-ziegler-figure-skating-national-championships 1 Link to comment
annzeepark914 January 18 Share January 18 I just read on FSU that Brooke Gewalt has taken her place. Link to comment
honeywest January 19 Share January 19 Ziegler is reportedly skipping Nationals to concentrate on training for 4CC––an odd career choice. Bradie Tennell is out with a broken ankle. 1 Link to comment
Good Queen Jane January 19 Share January 19 Poor Bradie! Perhaps it is time for her to go on to the next chapter in her life. I guess Ava figures her best chance of making the Worlds team is to medal at 4CC. I think the Worlds team is not going to be named until after 4CC. Nationals this year is a week later than usual so there is only a one-week interval between US Nationals and 4CC, which is in Shanghai. The US 4CC team has already been named, with lots of alternates. I wonder why the USFSA scheduled Nationals so late? 2 Link to comment
annzeepark914 January 19 Share January 19 I haven't seen this FD since that event. Maybe it's my imagination, but has ice dance mellowed a bit since the Davis & White era? 1 Link to comment
specialj67 January 20 Share January 20 7 hours ago, annzeepark914 said: I haven't seen this FD since that event. Maybe it's my imagination, but has ice dance mellowed a bit since the Davis & White era? IDK about it mellowing so much as the dramatic aesthetic of the current era being less driven by these more character-y pieces that were so abundant 10-15 years ago. 1 Link to comment
CeeBeeGee January 20 Share January 20 On 1/18/2024 at 12:02 PM, Good Queen Jane said: She is not competing Oh thank God. I have great respect for Gracie's courage and honesty but I am so tired of cringing my way through her therapy sessions on ice. 2 1 Link to comment
KittenPokerCheater January 20 Share January 20 I wonder how Gracie would do if she went into solo ice skating (or whatever it is called). If I recall correctly, she has nice edges. Mostly, I am happy if she is in a good emotional place. 1 Link to comment
Avaleigh January 20 Share January 20 On 1/18/2024 at 2:06 PM, honeywest said: https://www.nbcsports.com/olympics/news/ava-ziegler-figure-skating-national-championships Too bad. I was so looking forward to seeing her compete here. Hopefully she has an amazing skate at 4CC and is chosen for the world team. I too am curious why nationals is so late this year. I always look forward to nationals, but I feel like this year isn't going to be especially exciting. I don't think there are going to be any surprises as far as the winners go. Link to comment
honeywest January 21 Share January 21 Lauriault and LeGac are replacing Lajoie and Lagha at 4CC. Link to comment
annzeepark914 January 23 Share January 23 https://www.thecut.com/2024/01/madison-chock-evan-bates-ice-dancing.html 2 1 Link to comment
justmehere January 24 Share January 24 And here's Hawayek/Baker rhythm dance. I love them so much. Original post: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2dBXPZPY6-/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA%3D%3D YouTube: 2 1 Link to comment
Salacious Kitty January 25 Share January 25 33 minutes ago, honeywest said: Beautiful skaters. I’ll miss them so much. Always underscored. I never understood their low marks. They were exquisite. 3 Link to comment
ChicksDigScars January 25 Share January 25 I loved Davis and White's Phantom. I go back and forth between this and Bollywood as my favorites of their's. I think Phantom is a showcase for Charlie, while Bollywood is Meryl. Skipping Nationals for 4CC? Tell me that's not weird. 2 Link to comment
annzeepark914 January 25 Share January 25 3 minutes ago, ChicksDigScars said: I loved Davis and White's Phantom. I go back and forth between this and Bollywood as my favorites of their's. I think Phantom is a showcase for Charlie, while Bollywood is Meryl. Skipping Nationals for 4CC? Tell me that's not weird. Me too! Both of these programs are stunning and you're right: Phantom was Charlie's show & Bollywood was Meryl's. So much dancing & acting that people can forget about how it was all done at top speed, on thin blades upon a very slick & dangerous surface. I really miss D/W. 1 2 Link to comment
annzeepark914 January 26 Share January 26 Interesting comments during the RD. It might have been Terry who reminded us that Flores was ghosted by Tsanevski a few years ago. I'd forgotten all about that. At first, when he just disappeared, everyone wondered if he'd "met with foul play" as they say. What a nebbish. He didn't have the guts to face Flores to terminate the skating partnership. Now he's competing with Wolfkostin. 1 Link to comment
Salacious Kitty January 26 Share January 26 I'd love to see the protocols of Amber and Isabeau. Isabeau wasn't clean, yet she leads. 1 Link to comment
Mirabelle January 26 Share January 26 I suspect it comes down to Isabeau having a style and program the judges prefer. 2 Link to comment
redpencil January 26 Share January 26 Isabeau also had the edge in base value. Protocols are here. 2 Link to comment
Frost January 26 Share January 26 I know it's futile, but I sure wish Johnny and Tara would take a breather now and again and let us hear the music! They talk incessantly. Watching figure skating is more than counting the points, it's seeing how the skater interprets the music. And when you can't hear it, the performance loses a lot of emotional impact. Luckily the judges don't have to hear it. I just wish I didn't either! 3 5 Link to comment
iMonrey January 26 Share January 26 Is there a separate thread for Nationals? Why no discussion here? Link to comment
Maelstrom January 26 Share January 26 I know, I’ve been wondering if Tara’s getting paid by the word or something, because she just. Never. Shuts. Up. It’s been infuriating to watch. 5 Link to comment
annzeepark914 January 26 Share January 26 34 minutes ago, iMonrey said: Is there a separate thread for Nationals? Why no discussion here? This is it. During the Olympics, there's more participation...but not much more. 1 Link to comment
wintrygal January 26 Share January 26 On 1/21/2024 at 7:24 PM, honeywest said: Lauriault and LeGac are replacing Lajoie and Lagha at 4CC. I loved Lauriault/LeGac's free skate to The Corpse Bride, very different and entertaining, they won a medal, silver I believe. Had to watch all these skates on-line, CBC (here in Canada) always carried figure skating but nothing this year at all, so frustrating. The Bronze medal team was very good as well, (can't remember the names and too lazy to look it up) I believe their choriography was by Madison Hubbell, good job, both teams are coached by Dubriel/Lauzan. Link to comment
ChicksDigScars January 26 Share January 26 Pleasantly surprised to see that Peacock has the replays up. I forgot to record the rhythm dance and pairs short yesterday, Link to comment
meep.meep January 26 Share January 26 5 hours ago, Maelstrom said: I know, I’ve been wondering if Tara’s getting paid by the word or something, because she just. Never. Shuts. Up. It’s been infuriating to watch. If you watch on Peacock you get Ashley Wagner and Adam Ripon who do occasionally stop talking. But then you have to put up with Peacock weirdness like the blank screens while they're running the Zamboni. I suspect Tara is just like that in real life. Link to comment
Salacious Kitty January 26 Share January 26 10 minutes ago, meep.meep said: If you watch on Peacock you get Ashley Wagner and Adam Ripon who do occasionally stop talking. But then you have to put up with Peacock weirdness like the blank screens while they're running the Zamboni. I suspect Tara is just like that in real life. To watch Women's LP live, I have to suffer through Adam and Ashley. Consensus is that they're even worse than Johnny and Tara. Link to comment
annzeepark914 January 26 Share January 26 Torgashev! Torgashev! Torgashev! Just having fun with the old Mandelbaum cheer from Seinfeld. When these young skaters *finally* have a great skate at Nationals, it warms my heart. Naumov too! I love seeing guys like Naumov & Mallinin sitting with their dad's in the Kiss & Cry. I also loved seeing Nancy Kerrigan, just now, chatting with Terry, Tara & Johnny. I miss the "queens" of figure skating (Nancy, Kristi, Michelle, Alyssa, etc). 2 Link to comment
MaryMitch January 27 Share January 27 I am so annoyed by the technical score box. Tara and Johnny keep harping on how the GOE is so important, and we don't even see the GOE; we have to calculate it. Why are they making us do math? And showing the "Max possible" for the ice dancing is ridiculous. Don't they have base values and GOEs? If not, what have we been looking at on every other competition? 2 Link to comment
MaryMitch January 27 Share January 27 19 hours ago, redpencil said: Isabeau also had the edge in base value. Protocols are here. @redpencil Can you post the home page for all the protocols? I'm never able to find it on my own Link to comment
lurkerbee January 27 Share January 27 9 hours ago, Frost said: I know it's futile, but I sure wish Johnny and Tara would take a breather now and again and let us hear the music! They talk incessantly. Watching figure skating is more than counting the points, it's seeing how the skater interprets the music. And when you can't hear it, the performance loses a lot of emotional impact. Luckily the judges don't have to hear it. I just wish I didn't either! I think it’s even worse when skaters are using vocal music. It feels like the commentators are competing with whoever is singing. 3 1 Link to comment
annzeepark914 January 27 Share January 27 I'm trying to watch women's senior LP but first...hey! it's moved to NBC (& not on USA). Don't we love scrambling to watch our favorite sport. And now that I'm on NBC? It's just repeats from yesterday. Gee...does ESPN do this during football season? Link to comment
Avaleigh January 27 Share January 27 (edited) Go Amber! I'm so happy she's finally a national champion. I gasped audibly when she doubled the lutz. Prior to that moment I honestly thought she was finally going to have that magical skate. Then when she popped I was so bummed. I thought Isabeau had it in the bag. I feel so bad for Isabeau. I was surprised by the first fall, but by the third I was absolutely stunned. I don't think I've been that surprised with the ladies long since Michelle tanked in '97. I'm so happy for Amber and Josephine but feel terrible for Isabeau. The competition was more exciting than I thought it would be. Edited January 27 by Avaleigh 8 Link to comment
honeywest January 27 Share January 27 Is Josephine Lee old enough to qualify for this year’s Worlds? Link to comment
Salacious Kitty January 27 Share January 27 (edited) 8 hours ago, honeywest said: Is Josephine Lee old enough to qualify for this year’s Worlds? No. I think she's 15. I'm sure she's headed to Junior Worlds. Edited January 27 by Salacious Kitty Link to comment
redpencil January 27 Share January 27 6 hours ago, MaryMitch said: @redpencil Can you post the home page for all the protocols? I'm never able to find it on my own Results are here. To get to protocols, you go to a particular segment and then go to "Judge detail scores" at the top. 1 Link to comment
absnow54 January 27 Share January 27 This certainly complicates Ava Ziegler’s strategy for Worlds. She needed Isabeau to win Nationals to leave that second Worlds slot in question, but now Amber Glenn has a pretty good claim on it. 1 Link to comment
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