Unpopular Opinions

[Apprentice79]

I don't think Guy is ugly at all. Beauty is subjective...I just don't like his hair. I think he is better in the love scenes with Freddie than Chandler. Chandler always looked disgusted when kissing Freddie, like he was ready to throw up..Chandler never wanted Wilson in the first place, perhaps that affected his performance...Plus, he did not like Freddie..He had more chemistry with the old Chad. For a while, I thought that they were going to go from Rivals for Mia to lovers..That would have been a good twist that Daytime has never done before..Daytime is no longer brave to push the envelope like in the past. Will and Chad having a secret affair behind Mia's back would have been good to see..Plus the revelation that Mia had Chad's child that was being raised as Sami's child would have been very soapy... The twist of having Sparkle and Will sleeping together was stupid and not organic at all..Chandler is a much better actor and I don't think that even he can save the character of Will from the hack job that Ken Corday is doing....Chandler wanted Will to go dark for a while and the writers had said No...

Edited May 9, 2015 by Apprentice79

[slayer2]

It's his blank facial expressions that scare the shit out of me. If I woke up to that I might have a bad case of cataplexy.

[QuelleC]

I must be watching a completely different show.

 

Theresa has been lashing out over feelings of loss she couldn't understand and nobody would listen to her for months, while electro shock used and abused her.  She had a heartfelt conversation with Eve (who gives her a few minutes every few weeks) about how sad she is about missing out on carrying the child and having the time to learn to love him and work things out with Brady.  All she said was she wanted some time whether it would work out or not.  I understand why she would lean on his shoulder while the baby is being examined.  She hasn't interfered with Mel and Brady at all these last months.  I don't care if she doesn't "deserve" the baby, if anyone is stupid enough to let this happen it's these two.  I have no doubt Theresa loves this kid and I agree with her about keeping Kimber the hell away.  Theresa is like Sami in that nobody lets her forget a single thing ever.

 

Roman needs to butt the fuck off.  I was agape and laughed over the fact someone would call in "I saw JJ in the park" and a high level official - I forget what his role is in the SPD now - arrives and won't back off. It was so far off from what would really happen.  There was no search because there was no real reason so suspect him.   I was distracted by his facial surgery.  Honestly that scene went on and on.  I was also distracted by Paige's skirt that was intentionally cut way up on the front.  Then of course she questioned JJ too.  Shit, if I was Jenn I would kick out Roman's ass in a heartbeat and I think she was actually being polite under the circumstances. 

 

JFC Suddenly Southern Singing annoyed.  Sing song voices annoy. I'm looking at you too Mel. She'll dole out the occasional tough love to Theresa but she slammed the door and called her exhausting or whatever.  I really don't see the sisterly love some of you do other than the two good actresses are sometimes good actresses.  

 

Sure, Theresa's declaration of thanks was fake but seriously funny to me.  I kept thinking about Scarlett O'Hara saying "Melly oh Melly you are the best sister evah".

 

Now let's just watch JJ stand there with the pot instead of throwing it in the toilet or fireplace and getting caught.  Ugh.  No way Cole would front that kind of money. 

 

I don't blame Brady and Theresa at all for not giving a shit when Sparkle got up in their faces and assumed it was all about him.

[Apprentice79]

I love Theresa and I am rooting for her over those sanctimonious hypocrites in Salem. I just want the writers to give her more layers and friends. I want Stefanie to come back and for them to be super close..I was so happy that Theresa went off on Sparkle, he expects everybody to be like his groupies and fall at his feet..I still find it weird that Sonny even looks at him with adoration, knowing that Sparkle had touched his husband.. Sonny should be uncomfortable with him for that fact alone...Sonny is the only man that Will had ever known and the fact that Will slept with Paul should have affected Sonny's self-esteem....

Edited May 12, 2015 by Apprentice79

[bobcat1946]

Go figure why the worship for the one eyed character, Patch?

[QuelleC]

Good lord I'm not equipped to justify the wonderfulness of Patch.  His pain and nuance and gradually accepting Kayla's nursing and he was a hero too. Years and years later he sold me on the love of his little pocket man. 

Edited May 14, 2015 by QuelleC

[LeftPhalange]

I think Victor gets too much of a pass for his bad behavior.

[Donny Ketchum]

I think Victor gets too much of a pass for his bad behavior.

I like Victor, but I can agree with this.  I guess I let it go because he reads the right people for filth.  Doesn't hurt that John Aniston is still a fantastic actor after all these years.

[General Days]

While I love Victor's snark, I hate when he calls women sluts, whores, and the like. I think it's beneath him, and the writers should be able to craft better insults. Aniston has the delivery skills. It's the dialogue I hate.

[bobcat1946]

But I have noticed that he only calls women those ugly names if he does not like them and lets the one he does like untouched.

[tribeca]

I quite liked the Stefano/Marlana flashbacks.  By reading the comments it looks like that is an UO.

[islandgal140]

But I have noticed that he only calls women those ugly names if he does not like them and lets the one he does like untouched.

 

I am still a little fired up that he didn't call Will who cheated on his fave grandson a slut or whore. That maybe an unpopular opinion but if the character is going to use the word I think those insult should be hurled at men who engage in similar behavior. Equally apply it or don't use it at all.

[bobcat1946]

But Victor never called Abigail one either and she is just as much one as the one he names.

[Apprentice79]

I  hate it when Victor gets on his high horse and judges anybody...Back in the day he was on the same level as Stefano as a villain. Just look at how many times he tried to have Shane killed and he almost succeeded..It makes me very uncomfortable how he goes after Theresa, given his awful history with her parents...Isabella humanized Victor for me...She made him tolerable...I did not like it when he threatened Will, given his history with the Brady family...That was a big NO NO for me....His sick obsession with Kim and trying to destroy her life has always made me leery of him, even now...I always felt that the show should have brought in Andrew as a foil for Philip, it would have been a great nod to the history between Victor and Shane...

Edited May 20, 2015 by Apprentice79

[shesajar]

But Victor never called Abigail one either and she is just as much one as the one he names.

But why would he? Unless she's gone after one of his family members or someone he cares about, Victor doesn't care. 

 

 

I  hate it when Victor gets on his high horse and judges anybody...Back in the day he was on the same level as Stefano as a villain. Just look at how many times he tried to have Shane killed and he almost succeeded..It makes me very uncomfortable how he goes after Theresa, given his awful history with her parents...Isabella humanized Victor for me...She made him tolerable...I did not like it when he threatened Will, given his history with the Brady family...That was a big NO NO for me....His sick obsession with Kim and trying to destroy her life has always made me leery of him, even now...I always felt that the show should have brought in Andrew as a foil for Philip, it would have been a great nod to the history between Victor and Shane...

Sorry for the all caps, but... I KNOW! I love Victor ("sluts" and "whores" aside), but he really does need to remember who he is once in awhile. 

[boes]

I  hate it when Victor gets on his high horse and judges anybody...

 

I love Victor and I love his snark, but I really don't like it directed at ANY Brady, especially when you consider his past with them, and the ties he has.  How would he think Caroline or Bo, for that matter, would feel if they heard him trash-talking Theresa or Will?  After what he did to Kim, again, one more reason for the Brady clan to be off limits to him.

 

But he can call Brady Black his "idiot grandson" til the cows come home (and when they do you just know Abigail will date one of them), and he can insult pretty much anyone else and I won't mind it - especially any and all Dimeras.  I'm fine with him and Kate sparring because she gives as good as she gets.  

Another reason to regret his pairing with Maggie (and there are MANY), is that for some reason, the Hortons seem to be off limits.  And just think what hash he could make of Jenn and Abigail if he wasn't restrained by his big-haired bride.

[Dandesun]

Can someone tell me how Victor and Maggie even happened? Did it make sense at the time or did it always stink of 'well these are two older people... let's just hook them up and make it easier on ourselves?'

[Apprentice79]

I hate them together....I want Kate back with Victor stat...I loved them back when they were married and living at the Kiriakis Mansion with Lucas, Will, Philip, Billie. Bo used to drop by on  occasion because of Billie...She actually got him to be civil with Victor...I always loved that despite being father and son biologically, Bo has always kept Victor at a distance..Shawn Brady was his dad, period..Usually soaps have their characters drop their adopted families in favor of their biological ones..That is not the case in real life...Bo has every right to hate Victor after what he has done to his family...

Edited May 20, 2015 by Apprentice79

[islandgal140]

But Victor never called Abigail one either and she is just as much one as the one he names.

 

But she was sleeping with his enemies the Dimeras. Now if Abby isn't a curse upon the house Dimera, nothing is. Hell, instead of sending hitmen to assassinate EJ or Stefano, they just should have sent Abby over there. It is like breaking one of the seven seals referred to in the Book of Revelations and unleashing a blight of pestilence and disease on the House Dimera. Victor couldn't come up with a better revenge plot than that. 

[jlrd2000]

But she was sleeping with his enemies the Dimeras. Now if Abby isn't a curse upon the house Dimera, nothing is. Hell, instead of sending hitmen to assassinate EJ or Stefano, they just should have sent Abby over there. It is like breaking one of the seven seals referred to in the Book of Revelations and unleashing a blight of pestilence and disease on the House Dimera. Victor couldn't come up with a better revenge plot than that. 

I love this! I see it that way myself.

In some ways it does seem that Maggie's judgmental attitude is rubbing off on Victor. I dont want Victor sacrificed for the sake of anyone. There has been enough of that.

[bobcat1946]

But why would he? Unless she's gone after one of his family members or someone he cares about, Victor doesn't care.

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Victor just looks more and more like a hypocrite being he loves some evil women and hate others when they are the same.

[General Days]

My unpopular opinion is that I like Abigail and I like Kate Manzi. I think some of the writing for her has sucked, but that's true of all of our characters. I don't see how her sleeping with EJ (or setting up Austin) was any worse than anything Sami, Nicole, Kayla, Kim, or Marlena have done in their day. 

[bobcat1946]

I hate Abigail's attitude in regards to what she has done. She acted like she has never done anything wrong and instead of her being punished the victim, Sami was.

I hate Abigail's attitude in regards to what she has done. She acted like she has never done anything wrong and instead of her being punished the victim, Sami was. Abigail the HOrton is supposed to be good guy while Sami, Kate, Nicole and others are the bad guys.

[VartanFan]

I still like JJ.  It may be partially because the actor has beautiful beautiful lips, but I just think this behavior is pretty classic for a young adult.  He drinks, acts like an asswipe, but then grips with both hands to some hope that it can all be fixed.  And being too damn stupid to realize that it can't all just be better.  His MOTHER should know better but I wouldn't expect that of an 18 or 19 y.o.  Especially when you throw 'first love' into the mix.  I won't embarrass myself with the list of stuff I put up with from my first love over the course of about 15 (yes, 15!) years...

[Donny Ketchum]

Even more unpopular is that I do still like J.J., and I do still like J.J. and Paige and want them to work it out after some time.

[MsTree]

Considering Days has been my afternoon entertainment since its inception, I continue to enjoy all characters except Will.

 

I like them all including JJ, Paige, Dan, Brady, Melanie, etc. etc. But I can't muster up any emotion for Will except disgust....especially the current Will.

[shesajar]

Abigail's admitted wrong doing many times. She said it a lot when the EJ affair happened; it's not her fault that no one around her wanted her to take responsibility. And I liked her conversation with Chad where she admitted that she had high expectations for others, especially her mother, and that she recognized that as a problem. That's a lot more insight than we get from most characters. I'm not entirely warm to her character, but I don't dislike her, either.

Edited May 27, 2015 by shesajar

[bantering]

I think the character of Abigail is given the dialogue to show self-awareness at times. I just think KM is either a bad or weird (maybe I'm leaning towards weird since she can say her lines and walk at the same time) actress who doesn't convey that self-awareness properly. 

I think KM makes the character of Abigail a lot weirder than she actually is.  It's like she went to a generator of how she thinks a soap character would act mannerism-wise, and accidentally picked out the wrong card. 

 

Almost everyone on this show is a cheater, but the rest of them don't annoy me the way she does. So I'm going with the acting being done strangely to make the character of Abigail appear as if she's always up to something even when she's not, to seem kind of nosy 24/7, and to seem kind of fake even when she's trying to be genuine.

Edited May 27, 2015 by bantering

[Black Knight]

I agree. If I just look at the dialogue, Abby's really no worse than anyone else in town and better than some. She apologizes, she's reasonably self-aware, etc. But KM completely undercuts all that in her portrayal - her facial expressions, the way she delivers the lines. If they're going to keep KM in the role, they should just let Abby be a straight-out asshole. KM's suited to play that and the character would be far less annoying. They keep writing for her as if they still have someone like Ashley Benson in the role.

[boes]

I still like JJ.  It may be partially because the actor has beautiful beautiful lips, but I just think this behavior is pretty classic for a young adult.  He drinks, acts like an asswipe, but then grips with both hands to some hope that it can all be fixed.  And being too damn stupid to realize that it can't all just be better.  His MOTHER should know better but I wouldn't expect that of an 18 or 19 y.o.  Especially when you throw 'first love' into the mix.  I won't embarrass myself with the list of stuff I put up with from my first love over the course of about 15 (yes, 15!) years...

 

 

Even more unpopular is that I do still like J.J., and I do still like J.J. and Paige and want them to work it out after some time.

 

I don't think those are necessarily unpopular opinions.  JJ has been pretty well liked on this board, anyway - at least partly because he's portrayed by a good actor.  Right now I think he deserves to be on the shit list and get treated accordingly.  But I suspect he'll be on the upward swing sooner rather than later.  Casey Moss portrays him so well, and he's got a lot of good will from viewers.

But JJ has been a total shit.  Unlike Abigail, though, he'll probably redeem himself.

 

As far as JJ and Paige making a go of it, that's probably unpopular.  I know I hope she kicks him to the curb permanently.  Sleeping with your mother should be something you don't overcome.

Edited May 27, 2015 by boes

[shesajar]

Yeah, I can't get behind a JJ/Paige reunion, but I fear it's inevitable. Without bringing in new cast, those two are pretty much alone in their age group.

 

As much as I've disliked Eve and generally liked JJ until now, I think the more compelling story for Paige lies in her relationship with her mother. Something about the way JJ kept saying he loved Paige just fell flat for me, but I totally bought Eve saying the same thing. I'm still a little sore at the way Paige dismissed Eve's past* with men in the same way that I get irritated with people bringing up Nicole's porn past.  I'd like Eve to get the chance to deal with the real issues she has, and maybe for Paige to cut her some slack eventually. 
 

*I get that she said those things out of anger, and I think she was within her rights to lash out, but it really was a low blow from the writers' standpoint. I wonder how much of Eve's past is known to Paige.

[TigerLynx]

I doubt the writers care about Eve's past, or will deal with it.  They have a show full of rape victims, and they continue to treat rape as a joke.

[Donny Ketchum]

As far as JJ and Paige making a go of it, that's probably unpopular.  I know I hope she kicks him to the curb permanently.  Sleeping with your mother should be something you don't overcome.

Should be, yes.  But Nick and Chelsea overcame it, so I won't be bothered that much if J.J. and Paige overcome it, too.

[LeftPhalange]

At least Billie and Nick had the decency to only have sex once.

[Apprentice79]

i always felt that Billie and Chelsea should have been a part of the Wilson storyline when they were dealing with Nick. Will and Sonny are both related to Chelsea via blood. Will is Billie's Namesake and her favorite nephew. If the show wanted to redeem Nick, they could have brought them back and help him deal with his demons and homophobia. Nick was there for Chelsea when she was the town pariah after she killed Zack. He saved her from getting rape and proved  her innocence when she was being framed for arson. Chelsea could have returned the favor by being there for him in his time of need. I always liked Nick with Chelsea. They were so different from one another, but just so right.... Tomsell missed an opportunity to redeem Nick a unique character in daytime initially conceived by Hogan Sheffer..

[bobcat1946]

At least Billie and Nick had the decency to only have sex once.

They no longer write a ons because they know they are much easier to forgive.  Like Paige would have forgiven her mother and JJ had they only done it once.

[tribeca]

I kind of like Eric.  He seems more like a real guy than some others on soaps.  I also like him with Nicole more than with Serena or Nicole with Dan.

Edited May 28, 2015 by tribeca

[tribeca]

I did not watch this show when Kim was originally on so unsure how unpopular this one is....

   Would love for Kim to stay.  She made every actor better in the scenes they shared.   Totally bought Teresa/Kim as mother/daughter and loved her not taking any crap from Brady.  JMHO

[Apprentice79]

Tribeca you are so right.  Kim should definitely stay. She is awesome. She was not a classic heroine like Kayla, but she was a heroine that drove story that was not a damsel in distress...Kim and Shane were so good. I wish Theresa had some of her qualities. I am tired of saying the same thing, but, Andrew needs to be in town...

[Lastwaltz]

Yes, I wondered aloud earlier this week if anyone shared my thought that Kim was a bit awkward, but she does light up a scene when she's in it. And any character that represents what I consider the show's hey day is a sight for sore eyes.

[QuelleC]

The kids who play Parker are 6 and they can't seem to control themselves better than a toddler and their speech seems delayed.  I worried when I saw them last week.

[Rick Kitchen]

The kids who play Parker are 6 and they can't seem to control themselves better than a toddler and their speech seems delayed.  I worried when I saw them last week.

 

Really?  They were babies on Dexter, only three years ago

[QuelleC]

https://sites.google.com/site/jason47days/actor-stats

 

This is kind of interesting because it posts their birth names.  John Aniston had a birth name that looks a little bit like Kiriakis for instance. 

 

Yeah the Kruntchev twins on second look were born in 09 I've looked before and they're 6. 

 

I haven't felt anything for Chloe Of The Tight Dress since she was Ghoul Girl even though she was a more terribly slowly speaking actress back then.  If she and Bo appear in the same week well I guess you won't have to read my unpopular opinions.

Edited June 1, 2015 by QuelleC

[shesajar]

Quoted from another thread because my comments have nothing to do with current plotline, and a lot to do with an apparently really unpopular opinion!

 

The very things that made AS/Sami so popular is what is lacking in so many of the current characters on canvas.  It seems Ken Corday and the idiot writers still haven't figured out you can't force the fans to like characters.  AS/Sami had more than one popular pairing.  There are people who still want Sami to reunite with Lucas, Rafe, Brandon, or EJ.  There are some people that even liked her with Austin.  She also had SLs that had nothing to do with being in a romantic relationship.  I find it amusing that the writers are scrambling to find new rivals for Kate and Nicole to spar with, and failing miserably.

 

But there are also people, like me, who couldn't stand her in romantic pairings (Lucas aside, but that's just because I loved their friendship and history). I've wondered many times whether or not I'd like adult (especially EJ-era) Sami if another actress played her, without the screeching, scrunchy faces, and huffing and puffing. Oh, and that stilted delivery.  Holding AS, or even Sami, up as something to aspire to is odd to me. I get that the Show does it because they made the huge mistake of allowing Sami to eat up most of the show over the past several years and now they have to plug up the gaping hole she left behind, but I'm genuinely surprised by the people who think AS is something all that special.

[TigerLynx]

I liked Sami, Kate and Nicole because they made things happen.  I didn't agree with what they did all the time, but they were entertaining.  I think Jen Lilley (Theresa) is a terrific actress, and I'm disappointed the best the writers can do is have everyone say Theresa is bad news and trouble because reasons.  That's as lame as everyone going around Salem singing the praises of people who are not good at all, but have been deemed the good guys because again reasons.

[LeftPhalange]

But there are also people, like me, who couldn't stand her in romantic pairings (Lucas aside, but that's just because I loved their friendship and history). I've wondered many times whether or not I'd like adult (especially EJ-era) Sami if another actress played her, without the screeching, scrunchy faces, and huffing and puffing. Oh, and that stilted delivery.  Holding AS, or even Sami, up as something to aspire to is odd to me. I get that the Show does it because they made the huge mistake of allowing Sami to eat up most of the show over the past several years and now they have to plug up the gaping hole she left behind, but I'm genuinely surprised by the people who think AS is something all that special.

 

Why is it odd or surprising that people like AS and/or Sami? Just because you don't like them doesn't mean other people shouldn't. 

[shesajar]

Why is it odd or surprising that people like AS and/or Sami? Just because you don't like them doesn't mean other people shouldn't. 

Yeah, that's why I posted my thoughts in the unpopular opinion thread. It is both unpopular *and* an opinion.

It's not surprising they like her, I used to like Sami a lot when she was younger. I'm just surprised to see so many people talk about what a good actress she is because, aside from kid-oriented scenes, I thought she was pretty weak. 

[bobcat1946]

I fell for the character, Sami in 1996 when no one wanted poor Sami.  They all wanted to hump her sister.  All of them  Lucas, Mike Horton, Austin.  Everyone.  No one wanted Poor Sami.

[Black Knight]

That's a good point, bobcat1946. I think many viewers considered Sami the relatable one. She didn't have a bunch of guys after her like Carrie did, and the town didn't worship her like it did Carrie. She found out her mother was having an affair. She had body image/weight issues that, combined with the stress of her mother's affair, resulted in her developing an eating disorder. She was raped, and it didn't have anything to do with the guy being obsessed with her - like every other guy in town at the time, Carrie was the one Alan wanted. It wasn't until after all of that that Sami started turning into the schemer that she became known for. And yes, she started attracting men herself, but by that point AS had blossomed into a very good-looking woman, so it no longer made sense for Sami to be so overlooked by the male population of Salem - by the point EJ (the first man to be only interested in Sami) showed up, a lot of people had been saying for some time that Sami was now better-looking than Carrie.

 

I don't think AS is the best actress, but I do think she's a very good soap actress - she knows how to be entertaining and charismatic. (Charisma is always useful, but I think especially so in a medium where you're in viewers' living rooms almost every day, and often not in good storylines. It's really easy to get sick of people.) There are actors who are better technical actors than AS, but not so much better soap actors. They play the material very straight and so when the writing is terrible, their scenes drag. One thing that good soap actors know how to do is play such scenes with a certain tilt so that there's something there that'll be watchable and entertaining for viewers.

[shesajar]

 And yes, she started attracting men herself, but by that point AS had blossomed into a very good-looking woman, so it no longer made sense for Sami to be so overlooked by the male population of Salem - by the point EJ (the first man to be only interested in Sami) showed up, a lot of people had been saying for some time that Sami was now better-looking than Carrie.

 

I always did think that Sami was more attractive than Carrie, so when the show finally figured that out, I was so excited for her! But then I found AS to be a mid-level soap actor who couldn't carry the load as a romantic lead, and she lost me. AS had a tough act to follow, considering some of the strong actresses that were the show's romantic leads in the 80s and 90s, but I didn't see the same warmth and subtlety in her that a great deal of those actresses had, and that's important to me in someone who's going to carry story lines. I see it in AZ and flickers of it in JL, when they allow Theresa to act like a human, and not much in anyone else currently. 

I give you that AS has charisma, and it showed in lighter scenes, mostly with her kids, Lucas, or other family members. She's also good in the campier scenes, where she could be over the top. If the show had written to her strengths as an actress, I probably would have continued to enjoy Sami.