S11.E02: Savory Baking

[Gbb]

Hoo boy, he's doing "damage control," and now that he's gone and I've read this article, I don't dislike him as much as before he was given the boot:http://blog.foodnetwork.com/star-talk/2015/06/14/food-network-star-season-11-exit-interview-matthew-grunwald/

He does come across well in the interview. So well I'm not really sure they're all his words. But if they are and if Matthew is capable of growth, someday he's going to look at this part and cringe:

But it was kind of difficult being the youngest person here. There was such an age gap that it was like, what do I talk about? Do I, like, talk about emojis? Like, they’re not going to want to talk about that.

That's right, Matthew. The sign of being young and hip is wanting to talk about emojis.

[stanleyk]

I respectfully disagree-  calling a truck, car, motorcycle a beast is complimentary.But a woman? oh hell no.  As a female with some extra junk in the trunk, I would be highly insulted and I think Alex was rightfully so. I am around a lot of young guys at work and "beast" for a girl is not positive.

 

I desperately don't want to defend Matthew and his incredibly awkward social skills, but in this context he clearly wasn't referring to the way she looks or her weight. "A beast in the kitchen" among chefs is a compliment, meaning the person is highly skilled and effective. It just came off super-weird because Matthew is awful.

 

He does come across well in the interview. So well I'm not really sure they're all his words. But if they are and if Matthew is capable of growth, someday he's going to look at this part and cringe:

 

I didn't think he came off particularly well - he admitted being a little embarrassed by his behavior, but his big lesson was to have a focused point of view and to be more careful with how he presents himself (note, not anything fundamental but how he presents himself). The latter lesson he should have learned from his appearance on Cutthroat Kitchen. And no lessons learned about, I don't know, just spitballing, not being a total douche? He chalked everything up to his "natural competitiveness," which is reality show speak for "It's ok for me to act like an asshole because I really want to win." It's particularly tone-deaf when the competition depends in great part on likeability.

 

From the short clip of pastry chefs talking, I think it was clear almost none of the food was good. That seems typical of this show - it seems much more rare for the people to be any kind of decent cook (at least within the constraints of the competition), as at this point the focus is almost soley on "stories" and presenting ability. 

 

No one really stands out for me; I'm glad Eddie changed his POV, because honestly, if you're a personal trainer, but your POV is "cheat day"...isn't that just what every other show is making? Wouldn't it be more unusual to have a show focused on healthy cooking? 

[backformore]

I  don't think it was bad for the pastry chef to ask Michelle if she made the puff pastry.   It was in response to her saying that her mother taught her to make the dish. I think he was pointing out that the difficult part of the dish was pre-made.  I'm not much of a cook, but it does not take a lot of skill to put something inside of puff pastry and cook it.   

 

I am just a little afraid that Matthew's elimination was part of a storyline were he  "learns his lesson," becomes more mature, and re-enters the competition through Star Salvation, emerging as the winner.   The story being told that he has good cooking skills, just needed to get his personality in check.  

I will hate if that happens, but its not beyond what I've seen on "reality " TV. 

[grisgris]

Well played, Giada!

[ari333]

Yea! On the elimination.

Suck it, Mathew!

Gah I hate when Jah-dah juts her bottom teeth forward and they meet her top teeth in what I am to assume is some kind of garrish SMILE!

Omg..... hate. [/shallow]

Edited June 15, 2015 by ari333

[howmanywords]

Unless everything we've seen of Matthew is one big act from Cutthroat Kitchen to this then IMO hes not even remotely redeemable.  Its going to take a lot more than Star Salvation to make him likable to the viewers.  Take a glance at Twitter, people are STILL cheering his elimination.  I havent seen an elimination on this show get people so excited. I understand the concept of contriving shit for the sake of good TV but after Lenny I just dont see them taking such a big risk with someone who is getting this much hate.  Even the exit interview where his words were more carefully crafted he sounds extremely immature. I doubt they want another embarrassment to the network.

[Wings]

I do not believe this show is manipulated or staged anywhere near the other reality offenders.  Mathew's elimination was genuinely an on the spot change.  I don't believe that they have plans for his redemption.  Last season Lenny taught them to eliminate the viewer voting and take control of who is allowed on their network.  

 

Matt's interview was clearly damage control and I think he had counsel on what to say.  His words, he is smart, but the direction was guided by someone from his camp who is wiser and would like to see him succeed.  He is a 22 year old kid.

 

 Production has control over who wins and their demographic does not include kids who watch cooking shows on a Saturday morning.  I think we will see him act better in redemption kitchen but he is a loose cannon and that is never good with TV execs. 

Edited June 16, 2015 by wings707

[phoenix780]

Matthew's elimination can't be part of a storyline if most of that happens in an online show instead of on the mothership.  He blew his storyline by not at least acting like he could be fixed by the judges.

 

From his interview, quoted above: 

 

But it was kind of difficult being the youngest person here. There was such an age gap that it was like, what do I talk about? Do I, like, talk about emojis? Like, they’re not going to want to talk about that.

 

Or- and I'm sure this is shocking- talk about food.  Talk about food, your experiences with it, why you want to be a tv star, and all of the crap that can flow from that. It's not like this was a gathering of random people.  And if you have nothing to say in that moment, try listening.  I don't see why it'd be all that hard.  Then again, he did introduce himself by insulting them all in that first spotlight challenge.  Maybe that's why conversation was strained.

 

I wish they would work more with the person who has stage fright, or any of them, really.  It'd be interesting to see Bobby or Giada offer concrete tips on how to overcome these problems, other than, "you seem nervous, you should be less nervous."  I mean, I would assume there are exercises you could do with a person to work through that, or to coach on timing issues; etc.  Might be nice for the mentors to, y'know, mentor.

[Totale]

Matthew's elimination can't be part of a storyline if most of that happens in an online show instead of on the mothership.  He blew his storyline by not at least acting like he could be fixed by the judges.

 

 

A web series needs a script, too.

[beverlyoc]

Is it just me, or does Jay give off a Lenny-vibe?  I thought so last week, and thought so even more this week.  Something about him, maybe just he's too rehearsed, or his facial expressions, I don't know.  He just gives me the creeps.

[cooksdelight]

Is it just me, or does Jay give off a Lenny-vibe?  I thought so last week, and thought so even more this week.  Something about him, maybe just he's too rehearsed, or his facial expressions, I don't know.  He just gives me the creeps.

Likewise. I didn't like him as much this week for how rehearsed he sounded, and how LOUD he was.

[backformore]

I have a son Matthew's age.  He is perfectly capable of  and comfortable talking to people from all walks of life and all ages, without using terms like "emojis".  I have heard my son use "hashtag"  only once, and it was in the context of making fun of someone who uses the term in conversation.    And my son would call a motorcycle a "beast", but never a woman.  Even "a beast in the kitchen" would be said in a context, like "she may look very feminine and delicate, but she 's a beast in the kitchen".  

 

I don't know what Matthew's problem is, but he needs a huge dose of reality. Twitter and instagram don't make you likeable.  And being young doesn't give you license to be arrogant about how much you've accomplished.  

 

Jay needs to tone it down a little.  Maybe stop waving his hands around so much.  he has a certain charm, but comes on a bit too strong, to the point where he almost seems aggressive. 

Edited June 15, 2015 by backformore

[Lamb18]

It was beyond ridiculous for the pastry chef to ask Michelle if she made the puff pastry herself. Yeah-- didn't they tell him they only had 90 minutes for the entire project?

 

What bugged me about this is that Jay used biscuit dough for his beignets and no one cared about that.

Yeah, I definitely think there was some additional douchebaggery going on with Matthew, beyond the smirk.  Didn't he say he had nothing to learn from the mentors?  I'm betting that got back to them one way or another, but it was much better to edit it this way.  Less of an ego thing on the part of the judges, and Giada gets instant redemption for now, to the point that some of us anonymous online folks might actually use her real name. 

If you mean his statement from the first episode where he responded to Michelle (Armenian mother), I think he said he had nothing to learn from his colleagues but he was going to learn from his mentors (rough paraphrase).  Regarding his immaturity and arrogance, I watched Project Runway: Threads and I can't recall any of the contestants behaving with his level of immaturity and arrogance and they were all younger than him.  I don't think anyone was older than 18. The kids on MasterChef Junior are much better behaved, too.  I think he thought being moderately successful as a TV personality on his two episodes of CutThroat Kitchen gave him an "in" with the Food Network and huge advantage over the others.

[Commando Cody]

"Beast" was a compliment.  Not everyone gets it.  It is kind of like using the words bad or sick. Unfortunately the judge didn't understand what Matthew was saying.  It's that generation gap thing.  Something seems off with Matthew.  He's unfocused like he has ADD and he has an over inflated ego.  I don't think it's just immaturity.  It comes off more as some sort of mental health issue. 

 

I like that the contestants are encouraging each other to do better rather than beating each other up, this year.  

[J-Man]

Maybe I'm too influenced by stereotypical thinking, but I'm somewhat surprised that Dom and Arnold seem to be BFFs on the show. I do hope that Arnold can help Dom overcome his nervousness, as his food always looks pretty good. 

[cee]

Such terrible cooking throughout. I still have an image of Cita's huge glob of mayo in her recipe (terrible product placement). She's dead to me. 

 

At this point, I am rooting for Rue, Eddie & Arnold. I'm hoping Dom will get the camera skills. He's easy on the eyes. 

[Wings]

They love Dom's food and they will work with him on the camera stuff.  They saw how personable he was with the judges during the challenge. 

 

Rue is my favorite at this point.  I appreciate her unique food.  Anything that is not Italian I am all for!  Lets just cover everything in tomato sauce with a large portion of starch also covered in it.  To hell with health and good food, it's Italian!  

 

Jay will improve.  He is comfortable with the camera he just has to work on being spontaneous. 

 

Too soon to get a grasp on the others.  

 

ETA:  I think this is Eddies to lose.  Love the guy.  Now that he sees the cheat day is not a good idea he will soar. 

Edited June 16, 2015 by wings707

[xaxat]

I was puzzled by the way Matthew touted his social media chops as if he was using some type of new and exclusive technology that he invented. That may have been the case a decade ago when people were begging for invites to "The Facebook" but now everybody has access to those things. And I'd bet Food Network has a social media director that will work with the eventual winner to develop a professional presence. 

 

I don't get the Lenny vibe from Jay. I think it's because, for me, the distinguishing characteristic for Lenny was how phony his cowboy shtick felt.  I don't feel Jay is a phony.

Edited June 15, 2015 by xaxat

[StaceyNotStacie]

I wasn't surprised that Matthew went home, but I was surprised as to how he was eliminated.  Sita and Emilia were equally as bad.  

 

I really liked Dom and Eddie, and the sandwich guy wasn't too bad.  I also liked Rue.  I've got mixed feelings on Rosa.  She had a bit of a Real Housewives vibe to her.  I'm undecided on Michelle.  Everyone kept on saying she was so likable, but her "likable" personality looks like it might get old real fast.

[cooksdelight]

What bugged me about this is that Jay used biscuit dough for his beignets and no one cared about that.

Bingo! If they really, really like you, I think you can get away with just about anything. Canned biscuit dough beignets don't taste nearly the same as homemade. Same with doughnuts, if you use biscuits to make those.

[vibeology]

I was puzzled by the way Matthew touted his social media chops as if he was using some type of new and exclusive technology that he invented. That may have been the case a decade ago when people were begging for invites to "The Facebook" but now everybody has access to those things. And I'd bet Food Network has a social media director that will work with the eventual winner to develop a professional presence.

Matthew has less than 2000 Twitter followers. That's great numbers for a regular joe but for someone who has been on TV and touted their social media skills as a selling point, it's pathetic. Its a shame no one could call him on that.

[DollEyes]

  YES!! The not-so-long national nightmare named Matthew is over in record time and not a moment too soon. I remembered him from the Cutthroat Kitchen "Evilicious" Tournament and as bad as he was there, he was even worse here, whether it was his overreaction to Michelle's attempt to advise him in last week's episode or his dreadful performance in this episode with the main challenge. Matthew's biggest problems are his ego and his attitude. Matthew's attempt at damage control re the interview is IMO too little, too late. Matthew's like the Kanye West of FNS-he's talented, but he not only believes his own hype, anyone who doesn't according to him is not only wrong, they're the crazy ones.

 

  Matthew's arrogance was his downfall, especially with the judges. Giada's changing her mind and voting to eliminate Matthew after all was the highlight of the episode for me. Like Eddie said, if Matthew didn't care about what the judges thought, then what was he doing there in the first place?  News flash, Matthew: since the judges either work on FN shows, have shows of their own or run the network, maybe, just, maybe, they know something you don't, therefore you should have either at least tried to listen to them or just STFU, whichever came first. When Quincy Jones recorded "We Are the World" 30 years ago, his main rule was "Check your ego at the door." If Matthew had done the same, he might still be there.  Matthew not only got what he deserved, he brought it on himself, as far as I'm concerned.

Edited June 16, 2015 by DollEyes

[biakbiak]

Bingo! If they really, really like you, I think you can get away with just about anything. Canned biscuit dough beignets don't taste nearly the same as homemade. Same with doughnuts, if you use biscuits to make those.

I don't think Jay used canned biscuit dough, he made the dough but it wasn't a traditional beignet dough because a biscuit dough is easier to stuff than beignet dough because it's heartier. A place near my house makes the best crawfish beignets and because the kitchen used to be tiny you could see what a hassle they were to make but damn they are delicious.

Edited June 15, 2015 by biakbiak

[Uncle Benzene]

So, yeah, to hell with #CulinaryJoffrey, always and forever. But the truth is that "beast" is in fact a (particularly strong) compliment in the context it was used, and there's absolutely no way in hell that Iron Chef Alex wasn't 100% aware of that. (Iron Chef Bobby too, for that matter.) Hell, I can't prove it, but I'm certain I've heard Alex use the term herself at least once, and probably more than once. In precisely the same way. Alex's pissy/incredulous reaction to that comment was hands-down the least believable thing in the entire episode. She knew precisely what he meant, and the reaction was all for the sake of the narrative. Hell, I'm actually surprised that there are people in 2015 who watch Food Network who apparently didn't understand what he meant.

 

Still, fuck that guy. Bye Felicia, indeed.

 

The thing is, even if he weren't such a jackass, there was just "no there there." It was a half-baked concept that he just KNEW was the Next Big Thing, and he was never gonna let go of it. He was treating social media as if it were the end, and it's not, it's the means. He's the "social media guru" who thinks The Answer is to just buy a bunch of bot followers and sponsored tweets and such, and everything will flow from that. Which is an ass-backwards way of thinking. It's 2015, and everybody's onto (and pretty much over) Twitter Uber Alles. People don't just hashtag and retweet shit just because you ask/tell/beg them to. Hell, if anything, the more you tell them to, the more they probably won't. Not unless there's something compelling (or at least substantive) underlying it all. And with this guy, there just wasn't. Decent cook? Maybe. But nothing all that special. Plenty of other/better stuff out there to share on social media, without that icky feeling that you're not really sure why, other than that you're just doing what you've been repeatedly told to do. What Matthew was doing when he was not being a dick was just a "hip" version of "I'm a mom!" or "I'm Korean!" or "I've had a difficult past!" It's not enough of a reason, and it's beside the point anyway.

 

The Jay/Lenny comparisons boggle my mind. I do not see it. At all. I think Jay's main problem this week is that he's just overthinking it. He sees other contestants (specifically, but not exclusively, Dom and Emilia) being criticized for being too rough around the edges, and he thinks the path to victory is to polish himself up. They already like him, he probably thinks all he has to do is rehearse himself out of any potential dead air or other egregious presentation mistakes, and he's got it in the bag. The problem is that he's going too far with it, and as a result, this week came off robotic/plastic/fakey/whatever. But that's an incredibly minor and easily-correctable misstep.

 

At this point, I'm wondering if Sita is even half Italian and half Black. Or will it turn out that she is actually Mildred from Nebraska? Is she really a mother? Did she really work as a producer for a national culinary tee vee show? Does she actually even exist? We're gonna need a birth certificate over here!

 

Eddie is already kicking quite a bit of ass. As soon as he dumps that whole "cheat day" gimmick, dude might be unbeatable.

 

Speaking of dumping gimmicks, Rue is pretty freakin' awesome, and perhaps this speaks to all that's wrong with Food Network in 2015, but I'm sorry, there's just no way in hell they're greenlighting a series centered on African cuisine. It's just never gonna happen. Maybe it should, but it won't. So she's gonna need to come up with some other way to package herself if she wants to win this thing. Cynical? Absolutely. That's why I'm certain I'm right on this.

[TiffanyNichelle]

"Beast" was a compliment.  Not everyone gets it.  It is kind of like using the words bad or sick. Unfortunately the judge didn't understand what Matthew was saying.  It's that generation gap thing.  Something seems off with Matthew.  He's unfocused like he has ADD and he has an over inflated ego.  I don't think it's just immaturity.  It comes off more as some sort of mental health issue. 

 

I like that the contestants are encouraging each other to do better rather than beating each other up, this year.  

Beast is a compliment but like most things it all depends on how you say it and who you say it to. If he was talking to the other contestants and said, "OMG Alex is here? She's a beast! She's amazing!" I think even the oldest ones there would understand what he meant. But just because he thinks of it as a compliment doesn't mean Alex would.

 

I also don't think Matthew gets an out of having some kind of mental issue. Sometimes a smug early 20s know-it-all at the start of their careers is just as asshole. No other explanation. He'll learn different or he'll have his attitude reinforced by time.

[mlp]

I'll join the chorus of voices expressing relief that Matthew is gone.  I suppose he may survive an episode or two of Star Salvation if the next people out are Sita and Emilia but I hope he gets soundly trounced when one of the better people is eliminated. He doesn't seem to have any respect for other people.  He was obnoxious on Cutthroat Kitchen.  Among other things, he treated Antonia, the judge on one episode, the same way he treated Alex.  He said something about "hashtag" and acted like Antonia needed an explanation.  She has a child almost as old as Matthew and just gave him a mildly annoyed look.  I think he did mean "beast" as a compliment to Alex.  She's savvy and probably understood that but IMO reacted to him being way too familiar for a kid addressing an accomplished chef and judge.  He's so full of himself that I doubt he'll learn from his mistakes, at least not until he's a lot older and more mature.

 

I liked Jay right away when the show began but I've noticed since that he uses every TH to criticize one of the others.  That may be editing so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for now.

 

So far I like Arnold, Eddie and Dom and I rather like the sandwich guy although I don't get his POV so soon after Jeff Mauro's win.

 

I hope we've seen the last of Melissa d'Arabian.  There's nothing about her a contestant should choose to emulate.  The way she talks is like nails on a chalkboard and she's insufferable.  I didn't see her season so I don't understand how she won.

[cooksdelight]

If Eddie could change his theme to Healthy Sexy....with a smile.....I'd be all over that!!! Ahem....the show, all over the show.....

[Gregg247]

Every season, they have a contestant who wants to specialize in "healthy eating".  They're usually someone who lost a HUGE mount of weigh ad wants to scold people about not eating correctly, or a vegetarian.  Eddie has a great shot at breaking through because he comes at it from a positive place of good tasting, good eating, good health food.  I hope he does well. 

 

I think he needs to drop the "cheat day" thing, as it MUST be making Bobby and Giada very uncomfortable! LOL

[backformore]

I don't think Jay used canned biscuit dough, he made the dough but it wasn't a traditional beignet dough because a biscuit dough is easier to stuff than beignet dough because it's heartier. A place near my house makes the best crawfish beignets and because the kitchen used to be tiny you could see what a hassle they were to make but damn they are delicious.

That's what I thought, too.   especially since biscuit dough is pretty easy to make, especially compared to puff pastry.  I thought he was just saying he was using a biscuit recipe, not canned dough.  

 

Eddie is likeable.  He told a really LAME story  -  one time we pulled a prank by giving my friend CUPCAKES, but they were really savory muffins!  Haha!  And he loved them!   the fact that the judges laughed as  though that was a clever "prank" speaks to his charisma.   Because that is a dumb story.   

Edited June 15, 2015 by backformore

[Aquarius]

So, all #douchnozzlechampion had to do was maintain a neutral expression at the elimination and we'd still have to watch him.  Luckily his mama forgot about manners and sportsmanship when raising him for his mind-blowing life.  Buh-bye, you little prick!

 

Count me among those who believe Giada's vote change was at least a little staged, but you know what?  I'll take it every day and every way to see the backside of that guy.  He was becoming exponentially more obnoxious with each episode.

 

Jay calling his faux beignets "little pillows of decadence" in that smarmy used car salesman voice just kicked the Lenny similarity up a couple of notches.  Do not like the guy.  I'm hoping he's on the "starts-off-strong-but-never-grows" arc.  There are hints of that already.

 

Hee.  I had to agree with Alex when she said about Eddie, "I wouldn't even care what he's cooking, I'd still watch."  It's so shallow and probably offensive but it's just so true.  Although I have to say, his story was sort of stupid.  His roommate must have been none too bright to mistake what was clearly a corn muffin topped with a little swirl of guacamole for an actual sweet cupcake.  Or maybe his roommate just had the munchies.

 

And Arnold!  LOVED his display of those too-cute pastries made of turkey meatloaf and mashed potatoes!  Cupcakes!  Tea cakes!  Little chutneyed cherry tomatoes as the cherries on top!  THOSE things could have passed for the real deal!  I love precious things.  My Arnold love is growing strong.

[zxy556575]

I think he did mean "beast" as a compliment to Alex. She's savvy and probably understood that but IMO reacted to him being way too familiar for a kid addressing an accomplished chef and judge.

 

That was my interpretation as well.

 

Along with the military, professional kitchens are very hierarchical, top-down, command-driven working environments. Overstepping or over-familiarity isn't looked upon kindly, especially towards the executive chef.

Edited June 16, 2015 by lordonia

[biakbiak]

Eddie is likeable. He told a really LAME story - one time we pulled a prank by giving my friend CUPCAKES, but they were really savory muffins! Haha! And he loved them! the fact that the judges laughed as though that was a clever "prank" speaks to his charisma.

I know, so cheesy! I wondered so are these the typical pranks that Division 1 college athletes play on each other because that's jus sad.

Edited June 15, 2015 by biakbiak

[cooksdelight]

I know, so cheesy! I wondered so are these the typical pranks that Division 1 college athletes play on each other.

I don't know, but I would have loved to have had him for a roommate.

....Because he can BAKE, people!.... Really! That's all!...... *sigh*

[Madding crowd]

I also hated it when Matthew told the one judge "you're used to plated desserts so his is something different for you" or something to that effect. Did he really think he was the only one to make that type of dessert? And how does he know what types of dessert the woman made?

[CMH1981]

Wow, just watched the episode after not being spoiled at all.  Ding dong the douche is gone!

 

Does Matthew not realize that his behavior/attitude/demeanor on this show will follow him wherever he applies for jobs, so yeah...the likelihood he will be successful in this field is probably going to be limited.  Kids today don't get it anymore...it's what I always remember Judge Milian from the People's Court says...."Say it forget it, write it regret it."  Going on reality shows like this applies as well.

 

I even read that interview posted upthread where he does damage control.  That's exactly what that article was, a scripted damage control piece.  He might as well say he was currently on medication at the time for an undiagnosed ADHD, but now he is.

 

So who were the votes for in the elimination?  I think we obviously know that Giada was for Sita, but was it Alex or Bobby as the second vote for Sita?  To be honest I'm upset we didn't get to see Alton tear into Matthew as well as Bob and Susie.

Edited June 15, 2015 by CMH1981

[leighdear]

 

What bugged me about this is that Jay used biscuit dough for his beignets and no one cared about that.

I agree.  A biscuit dough can be stirred together in a few minutes and be ready for shaping very quickly.  Puff pastry needs at least 2 hours for the resting, chilling, rolling, folding, chilling, rolling, folding, etc.  If anybody should have been asked about using a prepared product, it was Jay.  

 

The people on the Food Network Facebook page are absolutely eviscerating Matthew.  Couldn't happen to a bigger tool. 

[xaxat]

Does Matthew not realize that his behavior/attitude/demeanor on this show will follow him wherever he applies for jobs, so yeah...the likelihood he will be successful in this field is probably going to be limited.  Kids today don't get it anymore...it's what I always remember Judge Milian from the People's Court says...."Say it Forget it, Type it Regret it."  Going on reality shows like this applies as well.

 

That's not necessarily the case. If your end goal is to simply be a media creation, acting out can be a successful strategy. Penny Davidi has done pretty well taking that path.

[CMH1981]

 

That's not necessarily the case. If your end goal is to simply be a media creation, acting out can be a successful strategy. Penny Davidi has done pretty well taking that path.

 

That's true, but Penny never came off as batshit crazy like Matthew did imo.  Has Matthew had any praise whatsoever from his appearances on the various competition shows?  Everybody loves a villain on these shows, but nobody likes the person that comes off like he might snap and start strangling the other contestants...at least not on FN show.

[NikSac]

Kids today don't get it anymore...it's what I always remember Judge Milian from the People's Court says...."Say it forget it, write it regret it."  Going on reality shows like this applies as well.

 

To be fair, I know a number of people in or near his age range and none of them are egotistical assholes. Sure they are that age where they're pretty sure they know everything, but most of them are at least respectful towards other people, kind, empathetic, supportive, etc. too.  I don't blame all 'kids,' I think he's some kind of special category of jerk. 

[leighdear]

 

I don't think Jay used canned biscuit dough, he made the dough but it wasn't a traditional beignet dough

Sorry, but at 28:19, the video shows Jay peeling apart a stack of canned biscuits.  I just re-watched it because I didn't want to criticize anybody unfairly.  

[cooksdelight]

Sorry, but at 28:19, the video shows Jay peeling apart a stack of canned biscuits.  I just re-watched it because I didn't want to criticize anybody unfairly.  

 

Thank you for assuring me that I hadn't lost my mind altogether. :)

[leighdear]

I think you still have a little left, Cooks....*LOL*

[Gbb]

Sorry, but at 28:19, the video shows Jay peeling apart a stack of canned biscuits.  I just re-watched it because I didn't want to criticize anybody unfairly.

Well that's practically unforgivable. Dom made freakin' marinara sauce from scratch and that stuff needs to simmer awhile to reach peak flavor. You can mix up a batch of biscuit dough in under 5 minutes. No excuse to use canned (which is wretched).

Eddie for the win (and my TV boyfriend)

[Aquarius]

So who were the votes for in the elimination?  I think we obviously know that Giada was for Sita, but was it Alex or Bobby as the second vote for Sita?  To be honest I'm upset we didn't get to see Alton tear into Matthew as well as Bob and Susie.

 

You know, on first watching, I could have SWORN it was Bobby to eliminate Sita and Alex to eliminate Matthew.  That's why I thought Bobby said, "He's just immature," when #demonchild starting smirking.  It wasn't until I got on this forum today to celebrate the results that I had a doubt.  And of course #comcastsux and the OnDemand is only available in HD.  And guess who doesn't have an HD receiver to review it.

 

 

Sorry, but at 28:19, the video shows Jay peeling apart a stack of canned biscuits.  I just re-watched it because I didn't want to criticize anybody unfairly.  

 

Thanks for confirming that, too, because you know #comcastsux.

 

 

Eddie for the win (and my TV boyfriend)

 

This might be a problem, because last night I decided he's my TV husband.  ;-)

Edited June 16, 2015 by Aquarius

[GeorgiaRai]

So glad I read this thread because I honestly thought Matthew's comment to Alex was "You're a piece!"  To which I made the exact same face Alex did, as if to say "a piece of WHAT?!"  Beast is much more acceptable, and I agree with those that see it as a compliment.

 

I'm all about Dom, but also like Rue and Rosa.  I'd like Eddie if he really did make "cheat day" food because I'm so not into the healthy stuff.  Jay is too wrinkled & frumpy for me to want to associate him with food, and the others...meh.

 

Edited June 16, 2015 by GeorgiaRai

[SpottedCoachDog]

I even read that interview posted upthread where he does damage control. That's exactly what that article was, a scripted damage control piece. He might as well say he was currently on medication at the time for an undiagnosed ADHD, but now he is.

So who were the votes for in the elimination? I think we obviously know that Giada was for Sita, but was it Alex or Bobby as the second vote for Sita? To be honest I'm upset we didn't get to see Alton tear into Matthew as well as Bob and Susie.

That exit interview? "You spin me right round, baby, right round. Like a record, baby, right round round round". He's not at all sorry he showed his ass. Only that he's being called on it.

Bobby voted Matthew. Alex voted Sita. Giada was on the fence, but sided with Alex because Sita has yet to serve good food. She agreed Matthew's attitude sucked, but he had made good dishes.

What I found odd was two things. First, it really looked to me like Matthew was storming out of the holding room to tell the judges "You can't eliminate me cuz I quit! My mommy raised a champion and you can't show me nothing!" But Sita and Emilia were close behind when he came in the room. Second, judges always do the "pep talk" to one contestant first, then address the bootee. Giada went straight to Sita. That is when Matthew turned off his hate glare and started smirking. Bobby said "He's very immature", and Giada asked about changing her vote. It was odd pacing.

[Gbb]

This might be a problem, because last night I decided he's my TV husband. ;-)

I'm sorry your TV husband's a player. You should probably dump him. ;)

Edited June 16, 2015 by Gbb

[cooksdelight]

What I found odd was two things. First, it really looked to me like Matthew was storming out of the holding room to tell the judges "You can't eliminate me cuz I quit! My mommy raised a champion and you can't show me nothing!" But Sita and Emilia were close behind when he came in the room.

I bet the big loud Doors of Doom wouldn't open and he probably pitched a hissy fit about that too.

I believe I called dibs on Eddie a looooong time ago. :)

[NYGirl]

In other news today Eddie is a bigamist due to this thread.

[Shibori]

I'm thinking the judges did the usual thing where they give a one line critique of each of the bottom three before addressing the ousted contestant and we just didn't see it. It was a fast cut there. The whole last 15 minutes or so felt really rushed and poorly edited.