Sweet Fellowship: Duggars and Friends (aka the Bates Family and Other Featured Families Thread)

[MargeGunderson]

2 hours ago, tabloidlover said:

That works out to a whopping $853 per month… before spending goodness knows how much on product.  🙄

I wonder if this is more than David brings in……

2 hours ago, xwordfanatik said:

Jilldo probably hounds the hell out of her 'team.'  Sell, sell, sell (or Buy, buy, buy.)  What a racket.

On a sort of related topic, the MLM that some of the Sister Wives sell, LuLaRoe, is going to be exposed on Amazon Prime in a four-part series, starting Sept. 10.  I think some of the rags that Jilldo's girls wear must be LuLaCrap, they're such hideous looking polyester crap clothes, which the thrift stores end up with when the seller goes belly-up.  

On another site, someone that lives in Utah said the acronym MLM, means Mormons Losing Money.  Plexus is yet another example of an MLM that only pays the people at the very top, and claims it's not a pyramid scheme.  

I cannot wait for that series! There are a couple of good podcasts about MLMs too. That reminds me to check out the Reddit MLM thread, haven’t done that in a while.

[libgirl2]

2 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

Climbing and/or soaring high in an MLM is really just another way to say "being fleeced," of course.

Unless you're the person who founded the MLM, or one of her three best friends (and even then, it's an open question whether you're being taken advantage of ...) 

So there she is, spending a bunch of money to get back a tiny tiny margin on it. ....(like -- I only spent this 9000 to "earn" this 10,000! God is good!) 

 And then she spends the tiny margin on knickknacks while her children go unfed, uneducated, unentertained, treated abusively, and clothed in the world's most godawful textiles, bar none.  

It really needs to be made into an eye-opening horror movie. 

 

MY best friend's husband did Amway when they were first married. They were always broke. They spent so much money on product and seminars and "tools" of the business. It took them years to recover from this nonsense. 

Edited September 1, 2021 by libgirl2

[JoanArc]

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From what I gathered poking around is... to reach Senior Gold, your recruits are also successfully recruiting. Also the average annual income for Gold is, $10,237.

So...fast-food job level income. Except everyone has to listen to you shill MLM crap. What a life.

[BitterApple]

Off-topic: I adore the Reddit MLM thread.

On-topic: I feel like people only buy Plexus from Jill thinking they're helping out those starving waifs. Little do they know, their contributions go towards her date nights and tacky knick-knacks. 

[CouchTater]

37 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Off-topic: I adore the Reddit MLM thread.

On-topic: I feel like people only buy Plexus from Jill thinking they're helping out those starving waifs. Little do they know, their contributions go towards her date nights and tacky knick-knacks. 

Which MLM thread?  I found 3, but only want the best one!  🙂  Please and thank you.

 

Edited September 1, 2021 by CouchTater

[BradandJanet]

22 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Off-topic: I adore the Reddit MLM thread.

On-topic: I feel like people only buy Plexus from Jill thinking they're helping out those starving waifs. Little do they know, their contributions go towards her date nights and tacky knick-knacks. 

And "vacations" in which the kids sleep on the floor of an RV, singing their way through Covid Country for church lunches and occasional showers.

Sofia needs to see a dentist. Parents who can build and furnish a custom addition to their home can certainly afford a consultation. They could probably get ebul Medicare to pay for it. 

[MargeGunderson]

10 minutes ago, CouchTater said:

Which MLM thread?  I found 3, but only want the best one!  🙂  Please and thank you.

 

I prefer antiMLM, I think it has more traffic.

[BitterApple]

52 minutes ago, CouchTater said:

Which MLM thread?  I found 3, but only want the best one!  🙂  Please and thank you.

 

antiMLM

[iwantcookies]

Sadie might see a dentist when it’s time to marry her off. Before that not a chance. There is no need to spend $ on Rod kids according to their parents.

[Cinnabon]

6 hours ago, Westiepeach said:

Oh brother... ::eye roll::

“Caught the vision?”

[BradandJanet]

33 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

“Caught the vision?”

Words from Jill's up line, the people who are profiting from Jill's efforts to suck people into this expensive vitamin sales scheme. 

Jill's standing-by-the-ocean-and-hovering-over-Jerusalem doctored photo is certainly making the rounds. 

[dargosmydaddy]

1 hour ago, iwantcookies said:

Sadie might see a dentist when it’s time to marry her off. Before that not a chance. There is no need to spend $ on Rod kids according to their parents.

Didn't Jill grift braces for the older girls? Come on, Jill, don't let your grifting game slip!

[emmawoodhouse]

35 minutes ago, dargosmydaddy said:

Didn't Jill grift braces for the older girls? Come on, Jill, don't let your grifting game slip!

Yes she did. But that was in WV. Different game in Amish country.

[Rootbeer]

13 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said:

Yes she did. But that was in WV. Different game in Amish country.

As I recall, the older kids got free braces from a fundy orthodontist down there. She thanked him once on her blog, I think.  That's a mighty big grift; she's going to have a tough time finding an Ohio orthodontist willing to do thousands of dollars worth of orthodontia on her younger kids for free.

[Cinnabon]

I feel pretty confident that the kids are on Medicaid. Ohio should cover some dental expenses.

[BitterApple]

I have a feeling Jill does everything she can to limit her kids' contact with mandated reporters. The Fundie orthodontist probably ignored tell-tale signs of malnutrition in the Rodlets' teeth whereas a normal practitioner won't give Jill that benefit.

[Rootbeer]

25 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

I feel pretty confident that the kids are on Medicaid. Ohio should cover some dental expenses.

I believe there is coverage for orthodontia in cases where it is deemed medically necessary.  I have no idea what the criteria would be, but, chances are, it is pretty strict.  She would also have to find an orthodontist who participates in Medicaid and I'll bet many of them don't.

Also, as others have noted, I think Jill is very cautious not to take her kids to regular medical care providers lest someone call the county DCFS about the unhealthy appearance of her kids.

[the-grey-lady]

On 8/25/2021 at 4:59 AM, ginger90 said:

If I ever told Mr. Grey I loved gazing at the back of his head while en route to Cracker Barrel, thanking God for him as a blessing as I admired his scalp, he'd chew off his own arm to get away.

[crazy8s]

I don't think we have seen any of the rod kids visit a children's pediatrician dr since they have been in OH.

Sammers got the Smile Direct Club ortho. Phillip and Gabriel most likely got their glasses from an online site or the dollar store.

[libgirl2]

30 minutes ago, the-grey-lady said:

If I ever told Mr. Grey I loved gazing at the back of his head while en route to Cracker Barrel, thanking God for him as a blessing as I admired his scalp, he'd chew off his own arm to get away.

My husband would take me for a psych eval. 

[EVS]

Regarding Jill and Plexus:  On Reddit last week, there was a thread titled “Apparently Jillpm is about to hit Senior Gold in Plexus.” I don’t have an account so I can’t link to it. On the third image, it says at the bottom, in very small print, that the average annual salary for all ambassadors in 2020 was 678.94 US dollars.  Unless I am misunderstanding something, Jill is probably making very little from Plexus. I screen shot the image but I still get confused on what is ok to post here from Reddit.

Edited September 3, 2021 by EVS

[Liddy52]

On Jill R's Facebook she has a post about taking lunch to Timothy at his job at the airport.  It looks to be a rather small one like our local county airport. 

[Westiepeach]

6 minutes ago, Liddy52 said:

On Jill R's Facebook she has a post about taking lunch to Timothy at his job at the airport.  It looks to be a rather small one like our local county airport. 

So… does that mean TimBits lost his other job? And that is how he was able to have a one month vacation with the fam? And he now works at an airport? 

[Liddy52]

She doesn’t explain any of that, but does ask for prayers for Timothy as he continues to prepare to be a missionary pilot ( paraphrased).

[ginger90]

I don’t get why she would do this. Why basically give out where he’s working?

[emmawoodhouse]

"...at the airport he works at." smh

[awaken]

Well, I’m glad for him that at least he’s working, and in a field he’s interested in. I hope he enjoys it and learns a lot, even if he doesn’t become a missionary pilot. 

[emmawoodhouse]

3 minutes ago, awaken said:

Well, I’m glad for him that at least he’s working, and in a field he’s interested in. I hope he enjoys it and learns a lot, even if he doesn’t become a missionary pilot. 

I wonder if he's at the airport on his days off from the job he had for a while at the (I think) senior care facility? Or did he quit that job entirely to work in some capacity at the airport? 

Edited September 3, 2021 by emmawoodhouse

[ginger90]

Don’t forget he has (or had?) Tim's Christ Honoring Services. He’s a busy man.

[ozziemom]

I guess Timbits has redeemed himself in JillR’s eyes. He must have spent all his $$ on vacation, souvenirs for BME, dinners out and new decor from Magnolia. I wouldn’t be surprised to hear he changed jobs and took a month off in between. Has school started for the Rodlets yet?

[emmawoodhouse]

School? Surely you jest! 

[Zella]

3 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said:

Or did he quit that job entirely to work in some capacity at the airport? 

My guess is he was probably fired (and rightfully so) for the insensitive things he posted about that job. 

[emmawoodhouse]

2 minutes ago, Zella said:

My guess is he was probably fired (and rightfully so) for the insensitive things he posted about that job. 

Oh, I totally forgot about that! However, that was months ago, and I think Timbits made one of his YouTube videos from the breakroom after he made those statements. His last couple of videos were shot in his camper, but that could be explained by his not feeling comfortable shooting on his lunchbreak. 

IOW, it's almost impossible to say when, or if, he left his full-time job. For all we know, he just works at the airport on Saturdays. We all know that Jill posts weeks after the fact. Who knows when this lunchdate happened?

[Zella]

I didn't realize he'd posted anything from there after that, which does surprise me. Though you're right about Jill's posting being so far behind nothing is a clear indication of timing. 

[emmawoodhouse]

I wonder if the nursing home enacted a vaccine mandate? That would have been the end of Timothy's employment there.

Edited September 3, 2021 by emmawoodhouse

[ginger90]

From 2019:

[LilJen]

On 8/29/2021 at 7:30 AM, ginger90 said:

I do not know what it means to “present ministry.” Trot out a few tracts so folks can see what an awesome job GWE does printing? Present her starving waifs as proof of how well Plexus gives your children vibrancy?

9 hours ago, ginger90 said:

I don’t get why she would do this. Why basically give out where he’s working?

So the paparazzi can rush over! So the hordes of eligible modest God fearing young ladies can see in person what a catch he is?

Edited September 3, 2021 by LilJen

[ginger90]

As a refresher, Jill’s post from when Timothy left Moody:

 

https://rodriguesfamilyministries.com/main/?p=3929

[BradandJanet]

What a bag of wind Jill Rodrigues is. Moody's rates were clearly posted on the website, and an admissions counselor would have been upfront about costs. I really doubt a professor threw Tim's Bible in the trash. Granted, the professor may have been thinking about throwing it at Tim to get him to shut up, but he wouldn't have done that either. 

What Jill doesn't want to say is that Tim's SEVERELY POOR homeschooling made college impossible, and Jill didn't want to pay for remedial courses that would have added to the time he would have been there. 

Tim never got anywhere at the community college in Wisconsin either, but he at least he learned to pilot a small plane. Too bad Jill is possibly better at selling Plexus than educating her children and preparing them for life. 

 

 

 

[Rootbeer]

1 hour ago, BradandJanet said:

What a bag of wind Jill Rodrigues is. Moody's rates were clearly posted on the website, and an admissions counselor would have been upfront about costs. I really doubt a professor threw Tim's Bible in the trash. Granted, the professor may have been thinking about throwing it at Tim to get him to shut up, but he wouldn't have done that either. 

What Jill doesn't want to say is that Tim's SEVERELY POOR homeschooling made college impossible, and Jill didn't want to pay for remedial courses that would have added to the time he would have been there. 

Tim never got anywhere at the community college in Wisconsin either, but he at least he learned to pilot a small plane. Too bad Jill is possibly better at selling Plexus than educating her children and preparing them for life. 

 

 

 

Yep, while Jill claimed they asked repeatedly about the cost of the education at Moody and never received an answer, I spent less than a minute on the website and found a very clear breakdown of the yearly fees based on aviation related field of study.  And, not surprisingly, as a student progresses, spending more and more time flying aircraft and achieving various certifications; the cost of providing that education increases as do the fees.  I am sure that they also received this information in writing at the time they visited the school.  Jill has shown us time and again however that she is barely functionally literate, so she might not have been able to understand the information.

Moody might be expensive, but they don't try to hide it.

Timbits utter failure to get anything resembling a college education in the 3+ years since his 'graduation' from Jill's homeschool is proof enough that it wasn't the cost that was the problem.  Since he returned from Wisconsin quite a while back, there has not been a single mention of his enrollment in any sort of higher learning; just some references to various Christian men who had pilots' licenses who were going to take him flying.

I suspect he is no closer to becoming a missionary pilot than he was 3 years ago.  And he will be no closer in 30 years, either.

There are a lot of private airports out in the countryside, it looks like Tim is working at one of those.  I had a friend whose son wanted to be an airline pilot and he worked at a local private airport, cleaning planes, answering the phones, running errands in exchange for a small paycheck and instructional time in the air.  He was 15 though, not 22.  And, when it was time to go to college, he went to one with an excellent commercial aviation program, studied hard and got his degree.  He now works as a pilot for United.

Of course, Tim could get pilot's training completely free if he would join the Air Force or Navy.  Not that he'd be able to beat the competition for a space in their programs; I am sure he'd never make it past the preliminaries.  Not that Jill would ever allow him to leave her side long enough to serve in the first place.

Edited September 3, 2021 by Rootbeer

[farmgal4]

4 hours ago, ginger90 said:

From 2019:

Clearly Timothy is suffering PERSECUTION from Satan for being such a GOOD Christian man!

[3 is enough]

Tennessee just took the dubious honor of being number one in per capita Covid positive tests.  Wonder if that will have any effect on the Bates family's no mask, no vax stance?  Somehow I doubt it...

[Heathen]

5 minutes ago, 3 is enough said:

Tennessee just took the dubious honor of being number one in per capita Covid positive tests.  Wonder if that will have any effect on the Bates family's no mask, no vax stance?  Somehow I doubt it...

Probably not, unless one of them actually dies of covid. Hospitalizations and the attendant bills don't faze these grifters. 

[SMama]

1 hour ago, Rootbeer said:

Yep, while Jill claimed they asked repeatedly about the cost of the education at Moody and never received an answer, I spent less than a minute on the website and found a very clear breakdown of the yearly fees based on aviation related field of study.  And, not surprisingly, as a student progresses, spending more and more time flying aircraft and achieving various certifications; the cost of providing that education increases as do the fees.  I am sure that they also received this information in writing at the time they visited the school.  Jill has shown us time and again however that she is barely functionally literate, so she might not have been able to understand the information.

Moody might be expensive, but they don't try to hide it.

Timbits utter failure to get anything resembling a college education in the 3+ years since his 'graduation' from Jill's homeschool is proof enough that it wasn't the cost that was the problem.  Since he returned from Wisconsin quite a while back, there has not been a single mention of his enrollment in any sort of higher learning; just some references to various Christian men who had pilots' licenses who were going to take him flying.

I suspect he is no closer to becoming a missionary pilot than he was 3 years ago.  And he will be no closer in 30 years, either.

There are a lot of private airports out in the countryside, it looks like Tim is working at one of those.  I had a friend whose son wanted to be an airline pilot and he worked at a local private airport, cleaning planes, answering the phones, running errands in exchange for a small paycheck and instructional time in the air.  He was 15 though, not 22.  And, when it was time to go to college, he went to one with an excellent commercial aviation program, studied hard and got his degree.  He now works as a pilot for United.

Of course, Tim could get pilot's training completely free if he would join the Air Force or Navy.  Not that he'd be able to beat the competition for a space in their programs; I am sure he'd never make it past the preliminaries.  Not that Jill would ever allow him to leave her side long enough to serve in the first place.

He would need a science degree to be considered for pilot training. Never going to happen.

[iwantcookies]

5 hours ago, ginger90 said:

From 2019:

Hard earned vs grifted

jill doesn’t hard ean anything 

lol

[Minivanessa]

Oh, Jill. She sure told on herself with that dramatic recap of Timmy's skid on black ice. I'm sure it was very scary if the car spun out of control, but still. This is how she describes the end of it: "Thank God, a curb forcefully stopped the car but severely damaged the back end of his car." Somehow the curb gets the blame for the damage; IMO Jill's big into the blame game in life generally so of course it was the CURB that FORCEFULLY stopped the car and SEVERELY damaged it. Sigh. Others might have said, "Unfortunately, Tim was driving and skidded on black ice. It was scary, but he wasn't hurt, although his car hit a curb and was damaged." 

Then, she seems almost outraged that he had to take "some of his HARD EARNED, saved money" to "pay to have it fixed."

Well, Jill, for most people, that's called having an accident and using your money to pay for repairs. Of course actually working to earn money is off the regular Jill/David path of grifting, and her saying HARD EARNED is such a tell, IMO. I assume she intended that her dramatic description would generate some cash contributions. I'm amazed she didn't start a GoFundMe to pay for the curb-inflicted car damage. 🤣

Edited September 3, 2021 by Jeeves
Quotation marks. They are used in pairs.

[libgirl2]

1 hour ago, Heathen said:

Probably not, unless one of them actually dies of covid. Hospitalizations and the attendant bills don't faze these grifters. 

I don't think even that would do it. 

[BradandJanet]

Years ago, one of my kids lost control of his car, and the stone wall to a historic cemetery got in the way and forcefully stopped the car!!! Kiddo not only had to pay to fix his car, he also had to pay the town for repairs to the wall. 

[MargeGunderson]

The part about Timmy having to spend his own money stood out the most to me. Jill is apparently so used to grifting that it’s basically unfathomable to her that people have to use their own hard earned money to pay for things. It’s right up there on the WTF scale as when one of MTV’s Teen Mom “stars” complained about having to pay for her own rent because she made too much money to qualify for subsidized rent. 

[iwantcookies]

2 hours ago, 3 is enough said:

Tennessee just took the dubious honor of being number one in per capita Covid positive tests.  Wonder if that will have any effect on the Bates family's no mask, no vax stance?  Somehow I doubt it...

Mama Bates stepfather died from Covid-19.