The Crazed Spruce September 11, 2014 Share September 11, 2014 InnerSpace, on the Space channel in Canada, has an interview with several members of the main cast tonight. The show's airing right now in the Eastern time zone, but it replays at 11 pm Eastern tonight, and at 8:30 am tomorrow morning. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-368324
swimmyfish September 15, 2014 Share September 15, 2014 There's a pretty long feature about Gotham in the new issue of Entertainment Weekly - the fall tv preview issue. There's some info in there that I might consider spoilers (and am a little unhappy to have read, tbh), but it's an interesting read. As a casual Batman fan (I watched the Adam West/Burt Ward show as a kid, never read the comics, <i>hated</i> the Dark Knight), I don't know that it made me more hopeful about the show - it's certainly going to be dark, but it does sound a little, at least, like they're not taking themselves too seriously. The pilot got a B from the mag; based on that, I think I can committ to the first 5 or so episodes to see how it goes. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-377467
Trini September 16, 2014 Share September 16, 2014 Dark but not themselves seriously? Reminds me of Prison Break. Which may be a good thing since that show ran on comic book logic; but it should (hopefully) work better here. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-378852
Trini September 16, 2014 Share September 16, 2014 Oh, and another tie-in website: http://witnessgotham.com It's an interactive thing where you can "investigate" the Wayne murders. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-378916
ElectricBoogaloo September 18, 2014 Share September 18, 2014 (edited) New clip: http://youtu.be/z-tH4VVGDSs Some character videos: http://youtu.be/4EFTyznUo-k http://youtu.be/27D-HdfiCEY http://youtu.be/fx8VMIYi78M http://youtu.be/OJTjKhxFTXo http://youtu.be/PzuvSEJ-9o8 Edited September 18, 2014 by ElectricBoogaloo 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-387428
MarkHB September 18, 2014 Share September 18, 2014 Oh, and another tie-in website: http://witnessgotham.com It's an interactive thing where you can "investigate" the Wayne murders. That one's fun, but there's a bug and it's hard to get the Fish Mooney popup; I kept getting Cobblepot in her place for a few tries. ElectricBoogaloo, thanks for those videos! I'm really looking forward to this, although I probably won't see it until Tuesday night. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-387483
darkestboy September 18, 2014 Share September 18, 2014 I've seen those videos, great stuff there. Nice we have another interactive site as well. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-387623
Trini September 18, 2014 Share September 18, 2014 So many preview/promo videos! I've stopped watching them all because I don't want to see everything before the premiere. Afterwards, I'm going into spoiler-phobe mode. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-388231
swimmyfish September 19, 2014 Share September 19, 2014 Dark but not themselves seriously? Reminds me of Prison Break. Which may be a good thing since that show ran on comic book logic; but it should (hopefully) work better here. I really enjoyed Prison Break, so I hope you're right! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-389593
MarkHB September 19, 2014 Share September 19, 2014 (edited) The New York Times has a story on the show (not a review): Gotham City, Emphasis on the Goth“So it’s New York in style,” Mr. Cannon said, “but at the same time, there’s something old and broken about it.” The result is a show, like “Game of Thrones” on HBO, that is defined by — and dependent on — a landscape that recalls reality but heightens it at every turn. “It’s a kind of fantasy world, an imagined world where anything is possible,” said Bruno Heller, one of the show’s creators and executive producers. “It can’t be quotidian and prosaic. It has to be limitless and epic.” Edited September 19, 2014 by MarkHB Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-391111
Sakura12 September 19, 2014 Share September 19, 2014 I think they should've gone with promoting this show as the origin story of Batman's villains. We meet like 80 of them in the pilot, so I think it would've worked better. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-391430
Trini September 19, 2014 Share September 19, 2014 (edited) Gotham Character guide. Really interesting what the actors say about their characters! And six clips from the Pilot. Edited September 19, 2014 by Trini Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-392130
AuntiePam September 22, 2014 Share September 22, 2014 David Bianculli, NPR's TV critic, says Gotham is definitely worth a look. And it has Donal Logue, my boyfriend from the late, lamented Terriers. (He's also recommending Blackish, The Flash, Jane the Virgin and Scorpions). Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-398132
Trini September 23, 2014 Share September 23, 2014 Bruno Heller interview at Coliider. One interesting bit: Are there any characters in the stories or the comic books that you absolutely will not include on the show?HELLER: There are certain characters that would be very, very difficult to put on the screen. That crocodile guy is a tough one, although we may go there. We haven’t excluded anyone from the mix, potentially. But generally, what we’re looking at is characters where there is some drama, or a story behind how they got to be the way they are. And we’re looking for characters who can live in the real world of Gotham, as opposed to the even more super-real world of Metropolis. It’s not about superpowers. It’s about super will, if you like. So, we have veered towards those characters who are interesting as people, rather than interesting for their particular power or their particular gimmick or their costume. But, the simple answer is that we’re ready to go with any of them. I assumed that any of the really "out there"/sci-fi characters were off the table; but now it looks like we could see anybody -- as long as they don't show any superpowers. More options if this show lasts long enough. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-400537
Agent Dark September 23, 2014 Share September 23, 2014 Well I, for one, am excited for Killer Croc! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-400603
MarkHB September 23, 2014 Share September 23, 2014 (edited) I've already seen a version of Croc done once, Vinny Jones's Scales on The Cape. Would love to see him here. The Ventriloquist is another good one to build a story around. Edited September 24, 2014 by MarkHB Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-400624
darkestboy September 23, 2014 Share September 23, 2014 Ventriloquist would be good I guess. I can see where Heller is coming from with Croc to a degree. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-400759
SimoneS September 23, 2014 Share September 23, 2014 Solid 18-49 demo for Gotham's premiere, 3.2. It just needs to stay over 2.0 and it will be renewed, but hopefully, it remains around 3.0. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/09/23/tv-ratings-monday-the-voice-sleepy-hollow-return-down-gotham-scorpion-debut-well-forever-gets-a-slow-start/306198/ Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-401291
Atony September 23, 2014 Share September 23, 2014 (edited) I think they should've gone with promoting this show as the origin story of Batman's villains. We meet like 80 of them in the pilot, so I think it would've worked better. That's what confuses me. There seems to be such a focus on these characters, is this the backstory of Batman's villians? Is that what this show is? Or is it about Gordon fighting hopelessly against the corruption and crime of Gotham? Edited September 23, 2014 by Atony Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-401339
Matt K September 23, 2014 Share September 23, 2014 That's what confuses me. There seems to be such a focus on these characters, is this the backstory of Batman's villians? Is that what this show is? Or is it about Gordon fighting hopelessly against the corruption and crime of Gotham? See now I think the later is far more interesting than the former. Honestly, if this turns into he's young Batman villain X, I'm not going to be sicking around. But Jim Gordon dealing with how incredibly corrupt Gotham is and trying to swim in these waters is far more interesting. I'm fine with Cooperpot sticking around, but the Penguin moniker makes no sense at this point and I hope if they're going to go with that they explain it. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-402109
Trini September 25, 2014 Share September 25, 2014 I don't know why character descriptions are no longer part of Fox.com webpages, but it's really annoying that there isn't more info on the show's official page. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-406829
Trini September 29, 2014 Share September 29, 2014 "This season on Gotham": Has clips from upcoming episodes, so SPOILERS AHOY. http://youtu.be/bzUJDmjBPuQ Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-420571
Syndicate September 29, 2014 Share September 29, 2014 (edited) "This season on Gotham": Has clips from upcoming episodes, so SPOILERS AHOY. http://youtu.be/bzUJDmjBPuQ The best video trailer for the show thus far. This one really shows the craziness of Gotham to come. Score one for me, by the way, for mentioning Victor Zsasz showing up as a villain on the show. I had no idea whatsoever that he'd actually appear. Edited September 29, 2014 by Syndicate Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-420600
Turkish September 29, 2014 Share September 29, 2014 Oh shit, the building of Arkham Asylum. I was so not expecting them to ever talk about Arkham anytime soon. And yay, Victor Zsasz! Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-420633
darkestboy September 30, 2014 Share September 30, 2014 Some pretty great stuff to look forward to in that trailer but there was a lack of Edward and Ivy though. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-422510
Trini September 30, 2014 Share September 30, 2014 That's a good thing to me. I think we're getting way too many (future) villains way too soon. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-423181
SimoneS September 30, 2014 Share September 30, 2014 The demo went down to 2.8. Hopefully, it stabilizes, especially after TBBT moves back to Thursday. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-424117
Trini October 1, 2014 Share October 1, 2014 I thought this was linked here, but it wasn't : EW interview with Bruno Heller about developing the series. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-425160
MarkHB October 1, 2014 Share October 1, 2014 The demo went down to 2.8. Hopefully, it stabilizes, especially after TBBT moves back to Thursday. I think the Monday Night Football matchup may also have an effect. Against the pilot, the Bears-Jets game pulled an average 8.4 rating (5.2 in the demo); this week, Pats-Chiefs averaged 8.8 (5.3 18-49) with a peak over 10.0 (but that peak was against Sleepy Hollow). Plus, I'm willing to bet that the early parts of this week's game heavily outweighed the end (since the game was a mess). Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-426559
Trini October 3, 2014 Share October 3, 2014 (edited) It came up in the Episode 2 thread that DC is probably involved with the writing of the show, and this article about DC's push into TV confirms it. And casting news! Not sure if it's a spoiler. Edited October 3, 2014 by Trini Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-432171
darkestboy October 3, 2014 Share October 3, 2014 I like the actor but I might have held off the character until the second season, which I think this show is pretty guaranteed to get. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-433486
shapeshifter October 11, 2014 Share October 11, 2014 I saw Jada Pinkett Smith on Jimmy Fallon last night. She looked great, as in 10 years younger than she looks to me on the show. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-458181
shapeshifter October 12, 2014 Share October 12, 2014 Well written review from the New York Times by Jeremy Egner: artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/10/06/gotham-recap-take-it-away-balloonman His style makes me want to know his former screen names: ...(New drinking game: take one swig every time Gordon displays his moral rectitude and two every time someone else refers to it. Full chug anytime someone calls him a “Boy Scout.”)... (I have a hard time remembering another show that so frequently and explicitly bludgeoned its audience with its thesis. It’d be like if each episode of “Lost” included at least four different characters shouting, “This island is full of mysteries, but none so mysterious as the nature of love and its power to redeem us!”)... Procedural alert: We’re only three weeks in but already “Gotham” is living up to the old “Law & Order” precept in which any recognizable guest actor who shows up in the first act will be holding a smoking gun by the third... I'm a bit tweaked that he didn't feel the need to throw in the word/name "Chekov" on that last one. Is it really considered "common knowledge" (and so doesn't need to be cited), or was he unsure of the correct spelling of Chekov, since Google also retrieves the various misspellings?Anyway, it's nice that one of our own has a byline and a paycheck. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-461066
HalcyonDays October 13, 2014 Share October 13, 2014 FOX orders a full season of Gotham. We will get 22 episodes in total for season 1. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-464194
AimingforYoko October 13, 2014 Share October 13, 2014 I'm not sure this is a good thing. I think genre shows benefit from shorter seasons, less nonsense. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-464528
Trini October 13, 2014 Share October 13, 2014 Yeah, I was hoping the announcement would be for a second season. I read speculation elsewhere that Fox may want to shorten the gap between seasons. (Assuming it gets another season.) Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-465046
Rahul October 14, 2014 Share October 14, 2014 Oh boy. This can only mean a plethora of pacing issues, filler episodes and the like. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-465516
Trini October 14, 2014 Share October 14, 2014 I recently noticed that in the press releases for the episodes in addition to the respective character names, they have "the future Riddler" and "the Catwoman" listed. Because stuff like that hasn't spelled out enough already. ::eyeroll:: -------- I might not mind a "filler" episode if they can use it to flesh out some of the characters. I feel there is a lack of backstory/context for who some of them are NOW, as opposed to who they will become. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-468095
MarkHB October 20, 2014 Share October 20, 2014 Several of the cast participated at PaleyFest in New York, talking about the genesis of the show, their characters, etc. Pge is here if this embedding attempt doesn't work: https://screen.yahoo.com/paleyfest-ny-clips/paleyfest-ny-gotham-190000376.html?format=embed 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-484337
Trini October 20, 2014 Share October 20, 2014 (edited) How ‘Arrow’ And ‘Gotham’ Crossed Over – And Why It’ll Never Happen Again Apparently, it was unintentional; at least from the producers side. There's probably an Arrow fan in the effects department. :) Edited October 20, 2014 by Trini 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-485460
darkestboy October 21, 2014 Share October 21, 2014 I enjoy both shows but I really don't feel we need a crossover with either of them anyways. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-488830
MarkHB October 22, 2014 Share October 22, 2014 I agree: the tone and the timing would both be way off if there were an actual crossover. Batman should already exist in the Gotham of the Arrow/Flash world. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-491457
tv echo October 22, 2014 Share October 22, 2014 I actually think the show is much better than mediocre (especially compared to some of the crap that's on TV), but this article does make some valid points... Gotham Will Continue To Be Mediocre Until It Fixes ItselfBy Paul on Oct 20, 2014http://www.tvovermind.com/gotham/gotham-will-continue-mediocre-fixes-242791 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-492324
MarkHB October 22, 2014 Share October 22, 2014 In the latest DC All Access we meet new cast member Nicholas D'Agosto, who will be playing ADA Harvey Dent. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-492606
Raachel2008 October 22, 2014 Share October 22, 2014 Morena Baccaring is Leslie Thompkins. Love Morena and I'm thrilled to see her playing Leslie. We'll see if she and Ben McKenzie have enough chemistry to make the love interest angle believable. http://tvline.com/2014/10/22/gotham-morena-baccarin-dr-leslie-thompkins-cast-fox/ 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-493198
thuganomics85 October 22, 2014 Share October 22, 2014 Yikes, I'm usually not all that wild about affairs on TV, but Morena Baccarin? She can be evil as all get-out, and I will still be telling Gordon to forget about Barbara, and go for it. Glad she's joining the show. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-493905
maczero October 22, 2014 Share October 22, 2014 (edited) We've been denied Leslie Thompkins--a character that actually fits in this time period, so it makes it easier to believe there's no Lucius Fox either(who'd have to be shoehorned a bit and a younger version to fit). We're getting Thompkins. http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=56518 Edited October 22, 2014 by maczero Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-493913
Kromm October 22, 2014 Share October 22, 2014 We're getting Thompkins. http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=56518 Good. Although it looks like they've changed her up a bit. Leslie is theoretically more a candidate for a romance with Alfred than Gordon, and her place in relation to Bruce and his upbringing probably should have been in place already, rather than her coming into the story at a later time. That said, I guess we'll see what they do here before deciding too much. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-493989
Raachel2008 October 22, 2014 Share October 22, 2014 Yikes, I'm usually not all that wild about affairs on TV, but Morena Baccarin? She can be evil as all get-out, and I will still be telling Gordon to forget about Barbara, and go for it. Glad she's joining the show. Same here. And after five episodes I'm convinced Erin Richards and Ben McKenzie don't have the chemistry needed to keep the whole Barbara/Jim thing going on. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-494014
Trini October 23, 2014 Share October 23, 2014 New videos are up on the show's youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/GothamFOX Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/2022-gotham-in-the-media/page/4/#findComment-495365
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