Erin and Chad: Fifty Shades of Pink

[Tikichick]

7 hours ago, 3 is enough said:

Or  4 closely spaced pregnancies with daily doses of Heparin  could have contributed to the problems.
There is so much we don’t know about COVID and its effects. It could very well have caused Erin’s reproductive issues.  However, it is also possible  that she pushed her luck with too many pregnancies in quick succession.
 

Yep.   Covid may not be responsible for her reproductive issues, but it sure as heck is something I would have taken seriously in her shoes particularly.   It seems the most devastating Covid cases involve significant vascular destruction, which should be concerning to someone who routinely treats with a blood thinning drug on a semi regular basis.   

[3 is enough]

I wonder if women who need Heparin to have successful deliveries are cautioned to limit the number of children they do have, and maybe space out their pregnancies more?  Much like women who need to deliver by C-section are generally told to only have 2 or 3 pregnancies.

Erin being Erin may have shrugged off any such warnings because, Jesus.  

Given what Erin has experienced, I am curious to see if her sisters will be more cautious.  I know Josie is seeing a specialist for high risk pregnancies this time, so maybe she has been fully informed about all possible risks and complications.  She is only 21 so after this baby she could take a few years off and still have plenty of time to try for a boy.  Time will tell I guess.

 

Edited March 10, 2021 by 3 is enough

[cereality]

I cannot imagine that any woman is put on Heparin/told she has a clotting issue and then told -- but NBD we can give this to you for your yearly pregnancy so you can achieve your dream of 10+ kids. I feel like normal drs -- who aren't Vick and who aren't fundie -- WOULD caution you about back to back to back pregnancies and talk to you about starting to think about limiting family size once you have say 2-3 kids (because before that people tend to say - well I want my kid to have a sibling or we're trying for a boy or whatever and are more likely to ignore dr. advice) bc they don't want such a young person on a heparin type of medicine for the long term bc they are pregnant yearly. But I mean we've seen Dr. Vick even bring up Jesus/things being in God's hands (to Michael/Brandon when they went to get a second opinion on complications), so yeah I imagine the medical care they're getting is partly medical, partly ministry.

IDK for sure but I think Josie goes to Univ of Tenn for her care; IDK why I think this except I think they shared pics from their hospital when their first kid was born and it appeared to be UT based on logos etc. So at least she's getting 100% medical advice not -- what would God want you do to. I wouldn't be shocked if she's being told that after 2 or maybe 3 pregnancies in 3 years, she will need to take a break to not be on heparin. Or maybe she's being told plan on 2-4 kids and that's all we'd recommend for safety sake, esp. if she has shared with them the complications her sister is having. You would think with Kelton's history with losing his own mother so young to child birth, now that this heparin thing has come up for Josie (bc I don't think it was an issue in pregnancy #1), he'd exercise his headship and be like nope we're done with 2 kids, I'm team #girldad. But while they may be slightly more modern than the Bates, they are still fundie and I can't see them making that decision esp with Josie only being 21 and having 2 decades of child bearing ahead. And most especially bc they only have 2 girls and have not yet made a boy for Kelton and a brother for said boy. I can't see them even thinking of quitting until there are 2 boys which is 4 kids minimum and more if there are some more girls along the way.

 

Edited March 10, 2021 by cereality

[3 is enough]

Erin's Instagram stories yesterday showed that they now have a pair of pigs, and one them is pregnant.  

She showed the littlest girl trying to pet the pregnant pig.  I thought pigs could be dangerous?  It made me nervous.

[BitterApple]

1 hour ago, 3 is enough said:

Erin's Instagram stories yesterday showed that they now have a pair of pigs, and one them is pregnant.  

She showed the littlest girl trying to pet the pregnant pig.  I thought pigs could be dangerous?  It made me nervous.

Wild hogs can be crazy aggressive, although I'm not sure about pet pigs. Are Erin and Chad breeding them to sell? I'm surprised their landlord is allowing all these animals. 

[floridamom]

I suspect that either Gil or a 'sweet friend' owns the honeymoon cottage that Erin, Chad and their 4 children live in. Does anyone know who owns this property? That's why the pigs are 'ok'.

[3 is enough]

Between the goats and the pigs there must be a ton of 💩 to pick up every day.  Literally.

 

[BitterApple]

5 hours ago, floridamom said:

I suspect that either Gil or a 'sweet friend' owns the honeymoon cottage that Erin, Chad and their 4 children live in. Does anyone know who owns this property? That's why the pigs are 'ok'.

It must be. I feel like Erin and Chad live in some sort of fantasyland. Instead of saving every penny to put a down payment on a place of their own; they're constantly renovating and redecorating a rental and adding a bunch of unnecessary expenses (dog, goats, pigs, etc.). Throw in Erin's health problems and the expenses they incur with those, and it's like what the hell are they thinking? 

[cereality]

29 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

It must be. I feel like Erin and Chad live in some sort of fantasyland. Instead of saving every penny to put a down payment on a place of their own; they're constantly renovating and redecorating a rental and adding a bunch of unnecessary expenses (dog, goats, pigs, etc.). Throw in Erin's health problems and the expenses they incur with those, and it's like what the hell are they thinking? 

They're also of the -- credit/interest is bad, never take a mortgage -- old school fundie school of thought (at least as of 2 or so years ago). So unless something is changed, they'd only buy what they could afford in cash. So yeah maybe save your cash and don't spend it on pigs and goats and random other barnyard animals. In an episode 1-2 seasons ago they went looking at houses that they could afford in cash -- OMG they were truly abandoned structures that hadn't been lived in for 40+ years and for some of them you wondered how they remain standing if the wind gusts up to 40 mph. The plan was they'd buy one of these properties and Prince Chad would reno it -- except it wouldn't be a reno like tearing out a kitchen and a few bathrooms like John & Alyssa so much as rebuilding these places from the ground up, including an foundation type of problems which may have developed. And of course speed would be on the essence here bc they'd still be paying rent and living in their current place. Chad seemed worn out just at the thought of it and "jokingly" (but not really joking) suggested they could live with G&K while this was done to save on rent and to give him time to get such a big job done over say 6 mos or a year. Princess Erin wasn't having that and shot it down basically telling him it was his problem how he did it, while keeping sweet of course.

The urgency for a house may have changed now though. They have 4 kids in a bedroom and while they probably fear Carson turning gay sharing a bedroom with 3 girls, it's not like they're adding a kid to said bedroom yearly anymore. I think they've said before that they absolutely don't want Carson to be past a certain age and still sharing a bedroom -- I think it was somewhere between 5-7 which is essentially now. I also wonder if the thinking on mortgages has changed. I mean Erin is just like G&K -- so likely a hypocrite -- and she is the comparative type who thinks SHE is the best -- so her man, her kids, her life should be better than anyone's including her siblings. So now Z&W have a nice big new house; Josie & Kelton have totally renovated their rancher into looking new; and J&A are going to have a nice big Fla house with a pool -- does she really want to be in a shack that'll be renovated over time? Though I guess that just means she'll push Chad harder -- none of this make it liveable and move in and it'll get renovated in parts over time; she'll require that it'll be HDTV perfect before she moves in.

[3 is enough]

2 hours ago, BitterApple said:

It must be. I feel like Erin and Chad live in some sort of fantasyland. Instead of saving every penny to put a down payment on a place of their own; they're constantly renovating and redecorating a rental and adding a bunch of unnecessary expenses (dog, goats, pigs, etc.). Throw in Erin's health problems and the expenses they incur with those, and it's like what the hell are they thinking? 

And every now and then she posts about loving "the simple life" on her Instagram page. 🙄

There was one in her stories recently.  It seemed like she was trying not to be jealous about Alyssa's new house.  I don't think those two are very close.

I guess she and Chad still think Jesus will provide.  

Also, how much must it eat away at her that Chad makes his money fixing other people's houses while they are still renting? They live in a fairly low cost of living area.  They could probably find a reasonable house, but she wants LAND, so that pushes the price way up.

I would guess that if any of the Bates offspring sees a penny of the UP money it is Princess Erin.

Edited March 12, 2021 by 3 is enough

[iluvobx]

On 3/10/2021 at 11:26 AM, Tikichick said:

Yep.   Covid may not be responsible for her reproductive issues, but it sure as heck is something I would have taken seriously in her shoes particularly.   It seems the most devastating Covid cases involve significant vascular destruction, which should be concerning to someone who routinely treats with a blood thinning drug on a semi regular basis.   

Has it not entered their collective minds that God has decided that ENOUGH IS ENOUGH?  They are always claiming that they are leaving it up to God but their actions say differently.  They take Heparin for clotting disorders and who knows what else they take.  Reality is, as long as they are popping out children they can't afford, that is by God's will but when they can no longer pop a child out, then it is no longer God's will.  

[andromeda331]

4 hours ago, 3 is enough said:

And every now and then she posts about loving "the simple life" on her Instagram page. 🙄

There was one in her stories recently.  It seemed like she was trying not to be jealous about Alyssa's new house.  I don't think those two are very close.

I guess she and Chad still think Jesus will provide.  

Also, how much must it eat away at her that Chad makes his money fixing other people's houses while they are still renting? They live in a fairly low cost of living area.  They could probably find a reasonable house, but she wants LAND, so that pushes the price way up.

I would guess that if any of the Bates offspring sees a penny of the UP money it is Princess Erin.

Given her reaction to Carlin's wedding. I'm sure Erin's jealous of Alyssa's new house, along with Zach's and Josie's. Erin and Chad make so many dumb decisions. Chad's job he used to work at that metal place but then started working in construction. Then suddenly he quit to work in construction, then he was forming his own business. There's no way he had enough experience to form his own business and he keeps hiring Erin's brothers to work for him. The smarter move would be to stick with metal work and do construction on the side until he built up experience to go into construction. Then work for the guy until he built up a client list. Or find a different job that comes with benefits and a steady paychecks. Nope, they didn't do that. They want a new house but they can't afford it. So instead of saving money they get a dog, goats and a pig and having four kids. Ditch all of that except maybe one kid and save up money to buy a house. Erin needs shots every day to sustain a pregnancy. Rather then giving her body enough time to recover from each pregnancy and shots. They have kids back at back.  

[3 is enough]

I still have to wonder if her reproductive problems can be tied to her Heparin use. She was on a blood thinner for 4 pregnancies back to back.  I don't know if the effects of the Heparin stop immediately when you discontinue using it, or if there is some cumulative residual effect until it finally leaves your system. Maybe she didn't have enough of a break between pregnancies and her risk factor increased.  My father was on Cuomidin for a while and if he just bumped his arm he would get a huge bruise.  That is a very common side effect.  So it isn't out of the realm of possibility that while she was in labor with Holland that something happened and a slow bleed started. She did say her first surgery was to remove a lot of blood.  I'm not a doctor or a pharmacist, but it seems plausible to me.

Funny how they totally brushed off the risks of COVID and yet now she is blaming it for her issues.  And Josie basically blamed her miscarriage on COVID.  It may have had an effect, or maybe not- the medical community is learning more about every day. But it sure is easy to use as an excuse. I think Josie did not need Heparin with Willow, but she does with this pregnancy.  Maybe that is why she miscarried?

 

[emmawoodhouse]

Tori also had one normal pregnancy before she needed heparin. I think Josie's miscarriage is tied to the clotting disorder. 

Erin had to stop heparin two weeks before she delivered, so it seems that her clotting issues were able to resolve themselves very quickly.

[Chicklet]

Heparin has no cumulative effects and is out of your system in 3- 4 days so Erin's issues probably aren't related to that. It's also reversible so they would have used that if she was bleeding in the hospital.

I think God just said nope.

 

[3 is enough]

15 minutes ago, Chicklet said:

Heparin has no cumulative effects and is out of your system in 3- 4 days so Erin's issues probably aren't related to that. It's also reversible so they would have used that if she was bleeding in the hospital.

I think God just said nope.

 

Good to know! Thanks

 

[Absolom]

She could also have a hereditary tendency to both problems.  My mother had one and my paternal grandmother had the other.  They passed them along to me.

[cereality]

The Erin discussion in the Alyssa thread is making me think that Erin is turning into Michelle Duggar. She doesn't give a $hit about anything except having more and more babies; even taking care of the kids she has does not matter. And now the baby train has stopped and she isn't even 30. Difference is by the time Michelle's baby train stopped and she decided she didn't even have to pretend to care about her existing kids or running her household, she had a half dozen daughters that were age probably like 14-21+ so all child rearing, cooking, cleaning fell on them. Erin's oldest daughter is about 4 -- it's at least 4-6 more years that either Chad or Erin must be involved before she can be expected to take over cooking, laundry etc. with her younger sisters' help. I'm surprised we're not seeing Addie/Ellie/Callie being relegated to Erin's house 4 days a week to run things though I think that's coming as the family probably doesn't yet fully realize how desperate/close to breaking down Erin is.

[3 is enough]

And yet per her latest Instagram post she found the energy to "refresh" the master bedroom AGAIN. So obviously she had the time and energy to comb the internet/stores to find the perfect accessories while Chad painted the room another time. 

I will admit to having painted most of the rooms in my house 2-3 times, but I have lived here for 19 years, not 7.  And my kids are grown so I have more time. And, most important, it's my house, not a rental.

Between the constant redecorating and the growing menagerie of farm animals I'm pretty sure they have spent enough to cover a decent down payment on a house, especially in their low cost of living area.

Edited April 2, 2021 by 3 is enough

[BitterApple]

Erin is definitely not dealing well with the baby train being derailed. I understand no one likes to have their choices taken from them, but she has FOUR kids, ffs. I could understand if she had one and regretted not being able to give them a sibling, but she already has more than the average American woman. And if they continued, what were they going to do? Have seven kids in one bedroom? 

As far as the redecorating, it's just money down the drain. It's not like Erin's repainted once or twice in the entirety of the time they've been there, she changes the wall color and decor every six months. It's one thing if you own the place, but why waste your resources on a rental? It's foolish. 

[cereality]

So a little more activity from Erin on insta lately - a pic kissing Chad; posts for Brooklyn's birthday; IG video for Josie's birthday and randomly showing a summer evening where Trace etc. were hanging out outside and the kids were playing with Chad.

But I do wonder if she isn't well bc she is largely MIA. Gil rented out some skating rink today as a church activity - Whit, Carlin, and Josie are all there skating with their babies and then out to lunch with Gil - making a big deal of having time with cousins etc. Erin wasn't there nor were her kids. I mean she's up and around in her house, as she shown a little video of baking with Brooklyn recently, but she really seems not to be going anyplace, even family events or the boutique. Wonder if she just doesn't feel well enough/doesn't have the energy.

[YupItsMe]

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CSlBoa6H6Le/?utm_medium=copy_link
 

She explains here what she’s been up to.

[BitterApple]

14 hours ago, YupItsMe said:

https://www.instagram.com/tv/CSlBoa6H6Le/?utm_medium=copy_link
 

She explains here what she’s been up to.

So is Erin not working at the boutique anymore? I know people can have more than one hustle, but she hasn't been seen or mentioned there in ages. 

[floridamom]

Erin has been busy all this time making scripture cards? I'm shaking my head at this. The woman has 4 children, a working husband and a household to take care of. Where does she get the time to do this? Wouldn't the boutique be more profitable for her? 

[3 is enough]

She is the deepest into the Kool-Aid I think.  Sad.

[emmawoodhouse]

34 minutes ago, 3 is enough said:

She is the deepest into the Kool-Aid I think.  Sad.

I think Michael is even deeper in. 

[Temperance]

On 8/16/2021 at 1:52 PM, floridamom said:

Erin has been busy all this time making scripture cards? I'm shaking my head at this. The woman has 4 children, a working husband and a household to take care of. Where does she get the time to do this? Wouldn't the boutique be more profitable for her? 

There's nothing wrong with making scripture cards. It probably doesn't take much time if she reads her bible everyday. I doubt she's making them by hand except for the first deck. Given how sick she's been this may be something she was more able to do while recovering. 

It's kind of funny how these cards remind me of the religious version of Oracle/Tarot cards.

[cereality]

That cottage is small enough to they really need to be bringing pigs and goats INSIDE the house?? She's got kids cuddling pigs on her couch and putting them in her laundry baskets, the goat walking around the living room. It seems . . . filthy . . . as she prattles on about #blessed to have such happy kids enjoying the #simplelife.

[emmawoodhouse]

1 minute ago, cereality said:

That cottage is small enough to they really need to be bringing pigs and goats INSIDE the house?? She's got kids cuddling pigs on her couch and putting them in her laundry baskets, the goat walking around the living room. It seems . . . filthy . . . as she prattles on about #blessed to have such happy kids enjoying the #simplelife.

Those poor piglets needed to be fed. They're so tiny! I don't think they posed a dirt problem, but yeah, the goat wandering into the house is another story. 

[cereality]

This menagerie has to be costing them money and they aren't exactly rolling in money - given 4 kids living in 1 bedroom + a house where the washer/dryer is in the dining room bc there's no other room for it. I mean I think money being tight is the #1 reason that unlike her younger sisters, they eat every meal at home and often Erin is baking up treats too; I don't say the food thing in a bad way - much better to have fresh real food and homemade muffins than be rolling thru Chick Fila 3 times/wk like Carlin or Little Caesars like Josie; she pictured tonight's dinner and it looked like lasagna/casserole and salad - simple and healthy.

But I'm unclear why they're wasting $$ they don't have on animals. Sure kids, #simplelife, blah blah but you don't seem like you can afford it AT ALL. Maybe work on earning more money, saving more, buying or renting someplace more suitable for 6 people, and THEN you can have animals, once you own the land and can afford to feed them.

Edited August 21, 2021 by cereality

[BitterApple]

14 hours ago, cereality said:

This menagerie has to be costing them money and they aren't exactly rolling in money - given 4 kids living in 1 bedroom + a house where the washer/dryer is in the dining room bc there's no other room for it. I mean I think money being tight is the #1 reason that unlike her younger sisters, they eat every meal at home and often Erin is baking up treats too; I don't say the food thing in a bad way - much better to have fresh real food and homemade muffins than be rolling thru Chick Fila 3 times/wk like Carlin or Little Caesars like Josie; she pictured tonight's dinner and it looked like lasagna/casserole and salad - simple and healthy.

But I'm unclear why they're wasting $$ they don't have on animals. Sure kids, #simplelife, blah blah but you don't seem like you can afford it AT ALL. Maybe work on earning more money, saving more, buying or renting someplace more suitable for 6 people, and THEN you can have animals, once you own the land and can afford to feed them.

I don't get it either. They've been in a rental for what, seven years now? Why on Earth are they wasting money on livestock when they don't even have enough space for their kids? 

Like you've said, I also notice Erin doesn't do the daily Starbucks runs and trips to Cracker Barrel like her sisters. Maybe she's just smarter and more conservative with her spending, but my instincts tell me money is tight and she just can't afford it. 

Edited August 21, 2021 by BitterApple

[cereality]

4 hours ago, BitterApple said:

I don't get it either. They've been in a rental for what, seven years now? Why on Earth are they wasting money on livestock when they don't even have enough space for their kids? 

Like you've said, I also notice Erin doesn't do the daily Starbucks runs and trips to Cracker Barrel like her sisters. Maybe she's just smarter and more conservative with her spending, but my instincts tell me money is tight and she just can't afford it. 

I also have a feeling that while Chad is/was whipped in other ways - living where she wanted to live; figuring out the baby situation asap when she was miscarrying; being her family's handyman; their marriage is still more traditional in certain ways. Like right from the start I think he might have been like fine paint the cotton candy pink and I'll repaint the furniture for you monthly to redecorate, but there WILL be dinner on the table when I walk in the door at 5 pm. She is the ONLY Bates girl who learned to cook ASAP after marriage and cooked consistently even when it was just the two of them so they could have afforded to go out more (except Michael though for her I don't think learning was an issue - she's always cooked so she just does).

And I have a feeling Chad also handles the money, so he's not handing her cash weekly to get daily Sbux like her sisters and pick up takeout 3 times/wk (or has told her in no uncertain terms what her credit card limit is). I don't think it's to be controlling, I really just think he can't swing it financially for her to spend $20/wk on coffee like Carlin and Alyssa + to get fast food 3 times/wk for SIX people; the cheapest you could do that even with coupons/no drinks etc. would be $5/person, adding up to $25-30 each time (IDK if the baby eats yet) or $75-90/wk.

As social media whorish and competitive as Erin is, she would LOVE to post on IG all the time with Sbux in hand, picking up takeout and coming home to yet another Amazon package at her door. I don't think it's HER financial conservatism - it's likely her husband being unable to afford it and putting a stop to it and her abiding by that. As opposed to the other husbands who whine about money A LOT (ahem Evan and John) and yet their wives are picking up coffee daily, fast food many times a wk, and dropping $100 at the salon or $20 on a mani/pedi ALL THE TIME and CONSTANTLY opening Amazon packages; in one video the other day Evan legit looked nervous as he was like - ANOTHER package, prob wondering what she spent on now. 

Like seriously as tight as money appears to be, can Carlin NEVER make coffee at home? I know she's a working mom blah blah but she rolling into the store like 10 am - 12 pm at the earliest more days. Pretty sure that's enough time to make coffee, have some eggs or a bagel or whatever and then you're not stopping for coffee or fast food!?

[ozziemom]

Carlin claims to not like coffee, she’s getting those other special kinds of pricey drinks at Stbuxs. Alyssa is the coffee addict, we frequently see where her sister Katie has iced coffee from MickeyD’s delivered to Alyssa. I can just imagine how much that costs. Chad and Erin definitely seem to be more practical in that way. Chad’s family is much Fundier than Evan or John’s, ,isn’t his father on the Board like Gil? So perhaps no credit card debt or mortgage for them.

[Spazamanaz]

Do you think that Chad is somewhat relieved (deep down inside) that there probably won't be any more kids in their future? 

[cereality]

2 hours ago, ozziemom said:

Carlin claims to not like coffee, she’s getting those other special kinds of pricey drinks at Stbuxs. Alyssa is the coffee addict, we frequently see where her sister Katie has iced coffee from MickeyD’s delivered to Alyssa. I can just imagine how much that costs. Chad and Erin definitely seem to be more practical in that way. Chad’s family is much Fundier than Evan or John’s, ,isn’t his father on the Board like Gil? So perhaps no credit card debt or mortgage for them.

Yeah Chad and Erin have said before they won't buy a house with a mortgage, which I'm sure is Chad's decision. There was one episode where they went out looking at houses they could buy and Chad could fix up -- I mean these houses were mostly abandoned properties in total disrepair to where you wondered how they withstand even a rain storm!? But I honestly think that's all that was even feasible on the money they had saved up for a cash purchase. I mean it would take 6 mos to make these houses even liveable - we're not talking making it open concept and putting in barn doors and granite like all of Erin's siblings are doing; we're talking homes that may have no electrical because it's been stolen over the years by people who broke in once the homes were abandoned, foundations that are probably badly cracked, major roofing problems from storms over the years etc.

I def think Chad is more pragmatic in how they spend money + on the $$$ issue what he says goes. You just don't see Erin carrying the coffee, shopping for her kids or herself all the time, doing salon/spa days etc. I imagine some part of him is financially relieved to not have more kids bc I bet he honestly was like - what am I going to do - I can't afford a house, where will I put kids 5, 6, 7?? BUT I do think he's very fundie so some part of him prob regrets it too -- bc he did want another son to have a brother for Carson -- and if Erin was able to continue to get pregnant, he would have just convinced himself to pray harder and God will provide.

If Carlin doesn't like coffee WTH don't go to Sbux all the time?? Before the world shut down I'd often grab a tea at Sbux at work and you can get that for ~$2-3 even in a major northeastern city and I think drip coffee is probably similar. All those whipped cream concoctions though are never less than $5 with a $2 cake pop for Layla every time. If she goes 3-4 times/wk, she's wasting like $20-30/wk on this -- which would be fine if her husband wasn't constantly complaining about finances??

I think Alyssa just survives her life and her kids by staying caffeinated and drinking her calories. But yeah having coffee delivered seems kind of ridiculous to me. I know she posts it as a -- aw Katie loves me she sent me coffee and a cookie -- but really?? Can you not make coffee at your "coffee station" ever? Or get each other coffee and pizza (for Katie) gift cards? But I also think these girls - and their brothers too - got so little when they were younger and had to share EVERYTHING, that even a coffee or pizza sent just to them is a big deal.

[floridamom]

I find it curious that most of these Bates girls go out for cofffee/treats and out for manis and pedis as a regular thing. I have had ONE free mani in my life; a perk of my auto dealership while my car was being serviced. Manicures and pedicures are 'special' things...not regular happenings in the real world from what I know unless you had big bucks. Do these women have big bucks? I also wonder WHERE IS KATIE getting her money from? I don't think she has a job or has ever had a job. How could she send her sister coffee? I have never heard of doing that personally.

I think Jana has dodged a bullet with Chad Paine. Some of us suspect that he was the guy she wanted before he married Erin. From what I have observed in the Paine's talking segments he seems to be a dull, boring guy with those silly, tilting head, half-chuckling giggles when Erin says how hard he's working, etc....Jana and Chad would have been duller than a scoop of no sugar, no fat vanilla ice milk.

[zenme]

They get money from the show, so I suspect that’s how they can afford manis and coffee. 

[IndianPaintbrush]

11 hours ago, Spazamanaz said:

Do you think that Chad is somewhat relieved (deep down inside) that there probably won't be any more kids in their future? 

Chad is a kool-aid drinker as much as the rest of them. They've said before they wanted at least 10 kids, and of course Chad wanted a brother for Carson.

Deep down he may feel relieved of some financial pressure, but I don't believe these people really stress about that. God will provide, etc. etc.

[floridamom]

If these girls keep spending that money they get from the show and instagram stuff like they seem to be doing, they will have no savings for their future. The show won't last forever and that will bring down viewership on their instagram income too.

Better to save as much as they can for their future. They aren't as "big" as the Duggar family.  The "Ds" earned more per show and have more followers than the Bates do. I'm sure Gil takes care of his own household first and foremost. Like Alyssa once said, "it's his show".

[cereality]

11 minutes ago, floridamom said:

If these girls keep spending that money they get from the show and instagram stuff like they seem to be doing, they will have no savings for their future. The show won't last forever and that will bring down viewership on their instagram income too.

Better to save as much as they can for their future. They aren't as "big" as the Duggar family.  The "Ds" earned more per show and have more followers than the Bates do. I'm sure Gil takes care of his own household first and foremost. Like Alyssa once said, "it's his show".

Yeah none of them are thinking that far ahead. I realize they were just raised to be "dumb girls" who don't understand all those "big numbers" but where are their headships in this?? They should be living in whatever lifestyle can be provided for them by an electrician school apprentice, an ex cop who presently does nothing but reno his own homes, an HVAC guy, a contractor, a plumber, a manager of a plumbing co., or an IBPL videographer and SAVING whatever extra they get from the show and/or the Youtube channels, clothing lines or barrette companies that have spun off from their "fame" on the show. Because you're right that "fame" won't last forever. Reality TV IG businesses pop up overnight but they also go away overnight bc the shows go away, people forget about you and jump on the businesses of whoever is on TV next.

To be fair I think Chad, Bobby, and Brandon and their wives are living within their means. You don't see them posting all the time about constant trips or dinner out 3-4 nights/wk or carrying a Sbux coffee with them at all times. I assume Chad/Erin and Brandon/Michael take whatever little extra comes in from the show and Michael from her baby blanket business and plow it into saving for a house. C/E seem to take maybe 1 trip every 1-2 years and it's usually a beach trip to a small Fla town where I suspect they drive and rent an AirBnb for a few nights and even then prob buy some groceries rather than getting coffee at Sbux every day. Brandon/Michael appear to travel just a little bit more but not much and often it'll be weekend getaways in the midwest when they've driven to Michigan to visit Brandon's family; I mean they COULD travel like crazy bc it's not like they have 4 mouths to feed but they just don't. Bobby/Tori - less clear due to less social media but even still I think they saved up bc they recently bought a house and honestly Tori seems so whiny and overwhelmed that I'm pretty sure Bobby doesn't WANT to take her on vacations or to restaurants bc the whole time it'll just be like omg the kids didn't sleep, I'm so tired etc.; like home turf might just be easier with her.

J&A and C&E OTOH are using the money from the show, YouTube channels, and Carlin's $$ from the store to live the life they always wanted - the nice clothes, meals out all the time, constant splurging. John has said that he and Alyssa are bad at sticking to a budget - I think she spends a lot on clothes for her and the girls and random junk for their house and I assume he's into electronics etc. Carlin & Evan - we've all seen her daily life and he buys every tech gadget known to man. They have completely wired their home w/ all the Google Home devices, he "needs" fancy computer, phone, and camera equipment that he apparently upgrades often bc he's SUCH a YouTube star and the editing needs to be professional, and he was going on one time about how a Roomba wasn't good enough so he needed a higher end one. Good thing they don't come from a background where kids need to go to college . . . .

Josie and Kelton I think are in the middle - I do think they splurge on coffees, a small amount of takeout but the don't seem to go crazy like eating out 4 days/wk or constantly flying places like C&E. I have a feeling they're not necessarily saving their money but reinvesting it in their businesses so the businesses will generate more. For Kelton's business that probably works - he seems to employ 5+ plumbers now, if he can bump that up to 10, that's 10 guys out on jobs and he's making the profit; for Josie's - eh - who is gonna remember her once she has 4 kids so she's never available to book a wedding and the show is long gone? But maybe the plan is sell as many barrettes until then.

[65mickey]

Reddit is reporting that Erin is pregnant with 5th child. Is this for real?

[65mickey]

I guess it's true. People magazine is also repoting this. Little miracle #5. Where will they put this one? 

[iwantcookies]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/people.com/parents/erin-bates-pregnant-chad-paine-expecting-fifth-baby-exclusive/%3famp=true

Little family 🙄🙄🙄

[SheTV]

I wonder if this is a Steel Magnolias situation, wherein the doctor said Erin "shouldn't" have anymore children, and she and Chad heard that they "couldn't" have anymore children, so when she ended up pregnant, they thought it was a miracle from Jesus.  Didn't end up so well in Steel Magnolias.

[emmawoodhouse]

Damn. Didn't see that one coming. 

[BitterApple]

Excuse my French, but wow, they are fucking insane. All the health issues that woman's had and she's going to put her body through another pregnancy?! Why?! 

 

 

[IndianPaintbrush]

I kind of expected this to happen, but not this soon. I honestly believe they'll keep going until Erin drops dead. But hey, Carson might finally get a brother. 🙄

ETA: I hope this is why Erin is staying away from the boutique. I wonder if she ever got vaxxed.

Edited August 24, 2021 by IndianPaintbrush

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11 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Excuse my French, but wow, they are fucking insane. All the health issues that woman's had and she's going to put her body through another pregnancy?! Why?! 

 

 

Because God will provide and they prayed for a baby, and one appeared...

[cereality]

So she had 1 ovary removed + part of the other. So I guess the remaining part has eggs left, which means that if this pregnancy goes ok the race is REALLY on. Like I'd expect TWO babies in 2022 - one in Jan and then she gets pregnant again by late Feb/early March and has another by Dec.

Chad must be on his knees PRAYING for a boy because the factory could close at any time - 1 boy and 3 girls is bad enough, if it ends with 1 boy and 4 girls?? No way - he NEEDS at least 1 more son and ideally like 2-3 more sons.

If this baby is due in Jan, aren't they announcing a bit early?? Like I know they're probably around 4 mos but given how much you want this and how scared to death you've been that this wouldn't happen, does the world need to know RIGHT NOW? Like why not wait until mo. 6 or 7?? And no IG announcement, weird?? I mean don't we need to hear how #blessed they are?

As for where to put the kid - couple months in mom and dads room. Then 2 kids on the floor in trundles, 2 in regular beds, and 1 above that in a bunk or some kind of shelf that Chad can build but not one that's a regular bunk. Bc if they keep having more kids after this AND don't buy a house -- which let's be real just got harder if they're sticking to their cash only principles bc these medical bills won't be cheap -- they need the ceiling room, so I'm thinking stack them up like bookshelves.

[cereality]

11 minutes ago, IndianPaintbrush said:

I kind of expected this to happen, but not this soon. I honestly believe they'll keep going until Erin drops dead. But hey, Carson might finally get a brother. 🙄

The fundie women have turned birthing into a competitive sport + the men use it as a dick measuring contest of how they made more babies than their brothers in law, and they've ALL lost sight of the fact that every pregnancy and delivery comes with risk, moreso if you have any health risk factors - which she does between all the cysts/surgeries; having had covid more than once (I think - or maybe just once but with lasting effects); and the blood thinners she has to take with pregnancy!?

I mean bad things can happen - they don't believe it - well look at Kelton's dad!?

As much as I snark on them, I'd never wish bad health on anyone and I really really hope she is going to UTenn or some other respectable practice here, not Dr. Vick. Though IIRC C&E have only ever used Vick, right? I feel like it's only Josie in that family who sees objective, non-fundie drs. -- maybe due to her husband's insistence, seeing as what his family went through. I mean she had covid + long covid + cysts rupturing + multiple surgeries to clean up those cysts and remove ovaries and then got pregnant -- all in the span of 1 yr!? I think that qualifies as high risk. Like has she even been to a cardiologist and pulmonologist to have her heart and lung checked - given how long she suffered after covid??