Current Plots Discussion: Actually Today's Episode

[TeeVee329]

I give the show a pass on off-canvas characters not being at Will's funeral (Carrie and Austin, for example.  Yes yes, they loved him and were close with him etc. etc., but in these modern, budget conscious soap times, I get it), but yeah, not having Justin and Adrienne there for Sonny was glaring.  Aren't they trying to glue their relationship back together because it's best for their sons or something?  And yet they don't support their son at his husband's funeral?  Bizarre-o.

Edited October 20, 2015 by TeeVee329

[LeftPhalange]

Aren't they trying to glue their relationship back together because it's best for their sons or something?  And yet they don't support their son at his husband's funeral?  Bizarre-o.

 

I thought Adrienne dumped Justin again?

[Artsda]

 

However,  Abifail's not being there was a plus because chances are she would've either been wallowing in self-pity or too busy thinking about Chad to be any good 

Well obviously none of those things happened, since she was there (rightfully so since she's his cousin) in the second row with Ben and you didn't even notice. She also was at the pub for the reception, Ben even commented on "who is this" when Andre was going on and John answered him. 

 

 

So first Abifail was too sick to go to Paige's funeral and now she couldn't say anything at WIl's funeral because she wasn't feeling well. Wow. How about you suck it up for two minutes, stand up, and say something about your damn cousin.

She said she was light headed or faint, something like that. So had she stood up and fell down or fainted, then she would have been attacked for doing that and making the funeral all about her. So better she just sit in her seat and do nothing.

Edited October 20, 2015 by Artsda

[Dandesun]

The things I'm most grateful for right now are Steve/Kayla because at least it's a bit lighter than MURDER! WEEPING! DEATH AND MORE MURDER!! It says something that Bo getting tortured and presumed dead is the LIGHT part of the show. At least he's free... presumably. And, yeah, maybe it's ridiculous for Steve to be wearing a leather jacket but I just don't see that anything else works. It's a nice one. It has sleeves. It even looks well cared for as opposed to something he may have found whilst dumpster diving. Let him have the jacket, it's fine. 

 

And also Andre... because he's delightful and I don't even care what sort of continuity bullshit was required to bring him around. He's like a cartoon character... but in the best way possible. I am convinced he's somehow shown up from The Wind in the Willows where he usually gads about with Toad causing all sorts of mayhem and then retires to Toad Hall to drink port at the end of the day and try to figure out what their next 'mania' will be. I mean, it's the accent... despite his being Australian... it just takes me to Toad Hall. And there are worse places to go.

 

Ben the Psycho's storyline needs to shift dramatically. I honestly think they've milked as much as they possibly can from the deaths. Serena was someone who didn't matter she was just the first surprise... Paige getting killed allowed them to give KDP's Eve several weeks of raw, unfiltered mourning and they've now wrapped it up by killing off a legacy character who had connections to everyone. There is nowhere else to go as far as deaths go. The rest of Salem will now be mourning Will but the shift needs to take place -- it can't be anymore murders of people we give any sort of remote shit about. They can be dayplayers or whatever IF they go there at all... it needs to be about figuring out WHO did it and the cat and mouse game needs to start there.

 

Toss in some false alarms with people being fearful of this killer who does not seem to have a particular MO at this point... throw in a jump scare or two... but the story needs to move away from the killing and the aftereffects and go into the puzzle solving and the chase.

 

Because this show is heavy as shit right now and it's very hard to watch.

[LeftPhalange]

She said she was light headed or faint, something like that. So had she stood up and fell down or fainted, then she would have been attacked for doing that and making the funeral all about her. So better she just sit in her seat and do nothing.

 

She could've said something while remaining seated. I'm sure the people at the funeral would have understood. 

[Artsda]

She could've said something while remaining seated. I'm sure the people at the funeral would have understood. 

Having to have everyone turn around and look at her seated instead of Will's smiling photo and the focus being on his casket? She wasn't feeling well enough and the writers obviously wanting her just to make that statement so she could tell Ben to say something and he could do the flashback.

 

Plus she would have still been attacked for saying something sitting in her seat, not saying something, being there, what ever she said, anything and everything. 

[LadyJaney]

 

So first Abifail was too sick to go to Paige's funeral and now she couldn't say anything at WIl's funeral because she wasn't feeling well. Wow. How about you suck it up for two minutes, stand up, and say something about your damn cousin. You know, the one who sided with you and stabbed his own mother in the back? Hell, she didn't even have to get up in front of everyone, she could've just stayed in her seat if necessary. I don't understand how she can be well enough to go to the funeral but not well enough to speak. But, it was probably for the best that she didn't speak. I'm sure she would've made her speech all about herself.

True, and I'm actually really glad she didn't speak for two reasons.  One because so much of the show tends to be about her in some way or another these days, no doubt her speech would have been self-serving and added to that.  And Second, because of Sami.  I'm sure the last thing she needed in that moment is the woman who blew apart her relationship with EJ standing in front of her speaking.  Stay seated and quiet Abby!

 

 

Abby's default personality is snooty, which is why repeatedly making her the center of storylines makes everything less interesting

I agree with this so much.  She does not come off as being sweet or kind or these other things we are told she is.  She seems more of a snob than anything else.

 

 

I feel like Abby gets a free pass on so much and that's why I don't like her.  Her thing with EJ was 50% her fault ( the other 50% being EJ) and yet Sami was made a villain for calling her out on it.  And frankly, I never forgot the crap she pulled with Austin when she was younger.  She was a liar, a manipulator and just plain crazy.  And once again a free pass.

Edited October 20, 2015 by LadyJaney

[lilly6]

Stephen Nichols is 64?  Sweet cheeses.  I have to admit, I love the whole Patch character and always have.  I was in my formative years when he and Kayla and Bo and Hope were in their super couple hey day.  I guess it stuck.

 

I was just thinking about Abifail and her little moments of illness and feeling lightheaded. I've thought for a long time that this baby won't make it to term.  I wonder with the lightheadedness comment if they're going to make her have toxemia and lose the baby.

[LeftPhalange]

I was just thinking about Abifail and her little moments of illness and feeling lightheaded. I've thought for a long time that this baby won't make it to term.  I wonder with the lightheadedness comment if they're going to make her have toxemia and lose the baby.

 

I'm really not sure what would be worse - Abifail parenting a child that will grow up to be a demon and Chad being tied to her forever or her having a miscarriage which would more than likely lead to unprecedented levels of nausea-inducing propping and sympathy from the people of Salem. If she has a miscarriage she would probably get blanked immunity from all past, present, and future misdeeds. 

[Black Knight]

Which reminds me, isn't it lovely that the one flashback we got was of Ben brutally strangling him?

 

I was hoping that y'all were just grumpy yesterday, but that really was a terrible funeral. Yes, there were moments that worked, but mainly due to the actors involved. My favorite were, of course, the Kami moments, but there were others that were terrific as well.

 

I did greatly enjoy Andre causing a ruckus, from Sami and Roman both attacking him (like father, like daughter) to Jen telling her idiot son to shut up to the partial recounting of Andre's sins - partial because, as Andre noted, if they did a full list they'd be there all night.

[Lady Iris]

Well, I must be showing my age because I love his look : ) Partly nostalgia, maybe, but he's the kind of character who will always be himself. Patch = leather and boots.

 

I think he looks great too and I completely welcome this man on my tee-vee any day of the week. Glad he went in for the kiss on Kayla yesterday. We definitely need more smooches between them.

[Peanut6711]

Hope and Abby have had how many scenes/stories together on this show and yet Hope asks her to be a bridesmaid??? Just another instance of Trollop propping.  Kayla and Jennifer I can certainly see being in the wedding party but Abigail just seems out of the blue. 

[Artsda]

Ben really is psychotic. He went from smiling over the killings to "aren't you proud of me dad?" talking about how smart he was with the killings to crying over Will because Will found out. Even Clyde looked in shock and horrified of his son.

When they were hugging I thought one would try to kill the other. lol They are true father and son.

This is just after the funeral. Andre, Hope and Abby were still in the same clothes but Hope went straight into happily wedding plans mode for the wedding minutes after the funeral? Smiling happy over wedding plans, making to do lists, getting a best man and honeymoons? Go sit with Lucas or your family Hope!

Aiden not having any friends in the world doesn't ring any warning bells from Hope? He has no cousins or family at all?

Abby was going to have Will be godfather? LOL Dumb choice, since he was team Ben and died for it.

I was just thinking about Abifail and her little moments of illness and feeling lightheaded. I've thought for a long time that this baby won't make it to term.

 

I think you're right, they've been dropping her feeling sick a lot plus her trip to the hospital for contractions when she's barely showing. Something will probably happen from stress or Ben attacks and  they'll need to run a DNA test or need the fathers blood.

[Apprentice79]

That was so touching, two psychos bonding over their mutual psychopathy...The show is too dark right now...The show did not give us a satisfying payoff when it comes to Clyde..He has  gotten away with too much....I thought Higley said that the new regime was all about payoffs....

Edited October 20, 2015 by Apprentice79

[Rick Kitchen]

 

Okay, so Austin, Carrie, Billie, Kayla, Justin. Adrienne, Joey are nowhere in sight for Will's funeral

 

Joey was there, he was sitting next to JJ.

[DisneyBoy]

True, and I'm actually really glad she didn't speak for two reasons. One because so much of the show tends to be about her in some way or another these days, no doubt her speech would have been self-serving and added to that. And Second, because of Sami. I'm sure the last thing she needed in that moment is the woman who blew apart her relationship with EJ standing in front of her speaking. Stay seated and quiet Abby!

Abby being quiet in the background was a refreshing change and completely appropriate for those very reasons.

I had to laugh today during Ben's big confession to Clyde. The random close ups on his eyes we're so amateurishly edited together that I couldn't really believe this was a professionally done show. Couple that with Ben's college drama class sniffle acting, and I just couldn't bear to watch. This guy can not act. I'm sure he could do swell on a jeans commercial or a perfume ad or maybe even a runway, but appearing natural in a scene is impossible for him, and he fails utterly at anything more complicated than that. Considering how little he was giving them on camera, I'm surprised they didn't just use the close up on the eyes only for the moment where he seemed most like he was crying (even though he wasn't). Instead, it was all randomly intercut. There's just no finesse to this show!

Thank goodness Clyde was there to share the scene with him. That guy can act and was creating all of the drama. It's a shame I utterly loathe his character.

I am beginning to think Aiden will try to fake Hope's death after the wedding. It's just too hard to believe he will actually seriously kill her or attempt to.

Edited October 20, 2015 by DisneyBoy

[Rick Kitchen]

 

Abby was going to have Will be godfather? LOL Dumb choice, since he was team Ben and died for it.

 

She's Ari's godmother, so that makes sense.

[Artsda]

 

The show did not give us a satisfying payoff when it comes to Clyde.

I wonder since he left very much alive if he doesn't return at some point. I don't think that's the end of him, there's the EJ shooting never accounted for, may be he shows back up for revenge over what ever happens with Ben?

[LeftPhalange]

I like how Serial Killer and Pedophile talk about murdering people in a police station. 

 

So it's officially confirmed that Serial Killer killed Serena and Page to set Chad up and keep him away from Abifail. First there was that guy who went crazy and held Jen and Nicole captive because he couldn't have Jen and now Serial Killer is killing people to hang on to Abifail. Those Horton women sure are something special. Serial Killer is really stupid enough to think if he gets Chad out of the way Abifail will be loyal to him. Wow. Newsflash, asshole - there are billions of other men other there for Abifail to cheat on you with. Pretty soon Theo will be SORASed and she can cheat on you with him. This is the most pathetic serial killer story I've ever seen. Will was sacrificed for this garbage.

 

Of course Hope asks Abifail to be her bridesmaid. Why ask your "cuz" Jen to do it when you have have Trollop standing up there with you on your big day. Why does this character have to be inserted into EVERY. FUCKING. STORY.

[Artsda]

If you listened to what Hope said, she outright said she was going to ask Jennifer also. This is obviously setting up the Aiden/Andre plan of wanting him to kill Hope to clear Chad and tying Hope and Aiden into Chad/killer/Ben. They're adding Aiden/Hope/wedding into the serial killer story, not adding Abigail to Hope's. 

[bobcat1946]

So first Abifail was too sick to go to Paige's funeral and now she couldn't say anything at WIl's funeral because she wasn't feeling well. Wow. How about you suck it up for two minutes, stand up, and say something about your damn cousin. You know, the one who sided with you and stabbed his own mother in the back? Hell, she didn't even have to get up in front of everyone, she could've just stayed in her seat if necessary. I don't understand how she can be well enough to go to the funeral but not well enough to speak. But, it was probably for the best that she didn't speak. I'm sure she would've made her speech all about herself. 

Pleased the selfish child did not speak..  Did not want Sami to have to be subject to seeing lying face.

[LeftPhalange]

If you listened to what Hope said, she outright said she was going to ask Jennifer also. This is obviously setting up the Aiden/Andre plan of wanting him to kill Hope to clear Chad and tying Hope and Aiden into Chad/killer/Ben. They're adding Aiden/Hope/wedding into the serial killer story, not adding Abigail to Hope's. 

 

There's no reason why Abifail needs to be made a bridesmaid in order for Hope/Aiden to be tied to the serial killer story. They're already tied to the serial killer story because Aiden is plotting to kill Hope so Chad will be cleared. And besides, I don't remember Hope and Abifail being all that close or sharing tons of scenes. Unlike Aiden, Hope has plenty of friends and family who she could ask to be a bridesmaid, people who she's actually close to and has tons of history with. 

[Lastwaltz]

....and what woman over the age of 30 needs more than one bridal attendant anyway? At Hope's age, it's ridiculous to consider more than one "bridesmaid."

 

I'll just go back in my curmudgeon box now....

[janeyjay]

Pop Up Andre is rivaling Pop Up Victor when it comes to mayhem these days. I'm diggin' it.

[DisneyBoy]

I've only just realized that Victor should definitely have been at the funeral. And by extension, Maggie.

[boes]

....and what woman over the age of 30 needs more than one bridal attendant anyway? At Hope's age, it's ridiculous to consider more than one "bridesmaid."

 

I'll just go back in my curmudgeon box now....

Lastwaltz, you are the LAST poster here who I would put anywhere NEAR the curmudgeon box.

You're too nice and funny for that.

[roomtorome]

that was some painful acting to watch with Ben.  The sniffling was actually pretty funny.  They really do like showing those murder scenes.  Well, I think they have their money's worth by now so maybe they can back burner those for awhile.

 

I was hoping Clyde would break Ben's neck - you know, for the greater good, to rid the world of an even greater psycho than himself and then he could plan how to do away with himself - hanging himself in a cell, whatever.  Just get rid of these two!  Please!!

[LeftPhalange]

So...Victor's role in Sonny's stabbing is never going to be revealed? Kate's role in bringing Clyde to town is never going to be revealed?

[Apprentice79]

So...Victor's role in Sonny's stabbing is never going to be revealed? Kate's role in bringing Clyde to town is never going to be revealed?

Exactly....

[Rick Kitchen]

Why did the police show up at Ben's door with guns drawn to escort him to the police station just so he could talk to his father?

 

It's interesting that Clyde already suspected that Ben was the killer.

 

How does one break into a modern hotel room in this day and age?

[CatLady]

So many threads left hanging.  It's DA PLOT, I tell you.  Where viewers see rich opportunity for payoff and good drama, a bad writers sees nasty truth that will interfere with where he wants a story to go.  That is the shame of soaps today.  The best stories explore most of the aspects and follow the natural path.  In making heroines out of trollops and heroes out of non-heroes, the stories suffer greatly.  Viewers should not have to imagine characters getting what they deserve, they should see it. Viewers should not have to see characters do things they would never do just to further a plot.

 

The thing that really ticks me off about this necktie murder story is that it is all to make obstacles the Abifail and the NonDiMera , Smirking Chad.  Trouble is, I don't care one thing about either of them.  Thinking about characters were expunged for them makes me angry.

 

Though I hated Clyde, James Read is wonderful and made an excellent villain.  Stefano has lost his bite and the DiMeras are decimated.  Andre may not be able to provide enough "evil" to make things interesting.  Oh my, what will the GOOD people of Salem do? 

Edited October 20, 2015 by CatLady

[Apprentice79]

So many threads left hanging.  It's DA PLOT, I tell you.  Where viewers see rich opportunity for payoff and good drama, a bad writers sees nasty truth that will interfere with where he wants a story to go.  That is the shame of soaps today.  The bests stories explore most of the aspects and follow the natural path.  In making heroines out of trollops and heroes out of non-heroes, the stories suffer greatly.  Viewers should not have to imagine characters getting what they deserve, they should see it. Viewers should not have to see characters do things they would never do just to further a plot.

 

The thing that really ticks me off about this necktie murder story is that it is all the make obstacles the Abifail and the NonDiMera , Smirking Chad.  Trouble is, I don't care one thing about either of them.  Thinking characters were expunged for them makes me angry.

 

Though I hated Clyde, James Read is wonderful and made an excellent villain.  Stefano has lost his bite and the DiMeras are decimated.  Andre may not be able to provide enough "evil" to make things interesting.  Oh my, what will the GOOD people of Salem do? 

Your post is divine and you have highlighted the many ways that Soaps have lost their way and why there are only 4 left spread out over 3 networks...There was a plethora of soaps in the 80's....

[Lastwaltz]

Lastwaltz, you are the LAST poster here who I would put anywhere NEAR the curmudgeon box.

You're too nice and funny for that.

Cheers, boes! I was feeling pretty curmudgeonly at work at that moment, lol. Much better now that I'm home and ready to tune in to today's episode : )

[Apprentice79]

Why is Hope a woman in her 50's having a big wedding so soon after her cousin- Great-nephew Will is buried in the ground..It is so tacky, not to mention insensitive to the Brady family..It  is bad enough that she shown zero interest in Bo Brady, her supposed love of her life..This is just plain selfishness and ego tripping..Hope has irritated me more than a few times over the years. She has always been a bit too selfish, too ego driven, too quick to blame Bo for any and everything. However, she was never this clueless. It is insulting how Hope is written as a complete ditz, so that  Shaiden can get one over her.. 

 

Her detective skills are a damn joke; her inability to see stupid Rafe's "crush" (stupid writing); her refusal to see anything suspicious with Aiden. Has she forgotten her experiences with Larry, Patrick, Franco...but back then she had some decent excuses, from immaturity to Zach's death. Now  she is having a BIG wedding, taking over the bicentennial, and thinking HER wedding will make everyone so happy. So, they will not feel so sad for missing Will. How thoughtful! Does Hope not remember that Will is also a Brady and despite her pushing it, surely the entire Brady family cannot be thrilled she has trashed Bo, refuses to acknowledge her mother-in-laws concerns.  She makes these faces whenever Bo's name is mentioned. He is not filth.  She is starting to remind me of Jennifer, when it came to Jack and the orange doctor.  

 

I find it very distasteful that the bicentennial has become Hopefest..It  is all about Hope and her dream wedding. I think it would have been more poignant for Hope and Shaiden to have a private ceremony with their kids in attendance... Now we have to have Hopefest to satisfy her ego..I don't understand why these writers have to have the characters act out of character to facilitate  their inane plots...Is it too much to ask these writers, for a  well written, character- driven story.

Edited October 20, 2015 by Apprentice79

[TigerLynx]

I like TP.  I always have.  Whether he was Tony or Andre, he was always fun to watch.  I think it sucks that Andre is alive while Renee, Bengy, Tony, and Lexie are dead.  However, Andre as a dangerous killer is believable.  Unfortunately, all these known murderers (not just criminals) running around free and clear in Salem, make the Salem PD look even more incompetent than usual.

[jlrd2000]

It comes as no surprise that the show has made the Bicentennial all about Hope. When you look on the NBC website about the 50 years, there are a few videos put together. One is "Couples" and the other is "Adventures". Each video is 3-4 minutes long. Bo/Hope got shown immediately and longer than anyone else. Couples such as Kim/Shane, Steve/Kayla, and Jack/Jennifer got a brief clip. A Bo/Clip shown in the "Adventures" video was just them out sailing on a pretty day. What adventure was that? Things like "Cruise of Deception" would have made more sense for an adventure. My point being that there were plenty of other couples and adventures that were captivating but are cast to the side (much like my Aiden) to prop Bo and Hope or even the two of them separately.

Back to today's episode. Ben confessing to Clyde is like Jason confessing to Freddy. One psychopath deserves another. Of course Clyde is compassionate. He's killed and much worse in his lifetime. Pot.....meet kettle.

I'll be glad when the bus stops running over Aiden and he is gone. It's just too painful to watch.

While I'm no Abifail fan, it does kinda make sense for her to be Hope's bridesmaid. Jenn and Hope have always been close. Having Rafe be the best man is a little ridiculous to me. JJ would have made more sense to me. JJ was Aiden's client and had more interaction plus JJ is Hope's cousin. Heck, having young Chase do it would have even been plausible. Rafe propping much???

[buffynut]

I was reading on another site that starting last Thursday, I think, for 3 weeks or so, every episode is going to have a daytime Emmy statue in one scene.  Today's was in Aiden's office behind him and Hope when they were embracing.  

[Happytobehere]

It comes as no surprise that the show has made the Bicentennial all about Hope. When you look on the NBC website about the 50 years, there are a few videos put together. One is "Couples" and the other is "Adventures". Each video is 3-4 minutes long. Bo/Hope got shown immediately and longer than anyone else. Couples such as Kim/Shane, Steve/Kayla, and Jack/Jennifer got a brief clip. A Bo/Clip shown in the "Adventures" video was just them out sailing on a pretty day. What adventure was that? Things like "Cruise of Deception" would have made more sense for an adventure. My point being that there were plenty of other couples and adventures that were captivating but are cast to the side (much like my Aiden) to prop Bo and Hope or even the two of them separately.

The funny thing is, out of all the supercouples (John/Marlena, Steve/Kayla, Bo/Hope, Jack/Jennifer, etc.), Bo and Hope we're always the couple I was fine with ultimately being apart. Not that I didn't love them or that I wished them apart, but I could actually see those two drifting apart as they got older.

[Apprentice79]

I like TP.  I always have.  Whether he was Tony or Andre, he was always fun to watch.  I think it sucks that Andre is alive while Renee, Bengy, Tony, and Lexie are dead.  However, Andre as a dangerous killer is believable.  Unfortunately, all these known murderers (not just criminals) running around free and clear in Salem, make the Salem PD look even more incompetent than usual.

Exactly! Andre being free is nonsensical, he is a serial killer..There is no statute of limitations on murder..Plus, how can Stefano tolerate Andre's presence in his life after he killed Renee, buried Benjy alive and kidnapped Lexie, exposing her to toxic fumes that eventually led to her cancer that killed her...The show needs to explain this...

The funny thing is, out of all the supercouples (John/Marlena, Steve/Kayla, Bo/Hope, Jack/Jennifer, etc.), Bo and Hope we're always the couple I was fine with ultimately being apart. Not that I didn't love them or that I wished them apart, but I could actually see those two drifting apart as they got older.

Especially after Zack's death...They were never really the same after that...

[Sidney]

Having to have everyone turn around and look at her seated instead of Will's smiling photo and the focus being on his casket? She wasn't feeling well enough and the writers obviously wanting her just to make that statement so she could tell Ben to say something and he could do the flashback.

 

Plus she would have still been attacked for saying something sitting in her seat, not saying something, being there, what ever she said, anything and everything. 

 

That's why I'm glad she had those scenes with Sonny and Gabi. I hope we can get a scene with her, Jennifer and Lucas.

Edited October 21, 2015 by Sidney

[JBC344]

The funny thing is, out of all the supercouples (John/Marlena, Steve/Kayla, Bo/Hope, Jack/Jennifer, etc.), Bo and Hope we're always the couple I was fine with ultimately being apart. Not that I didn't love them or that I wished them apart, but I could actually see those two drifting apart as they got older.

I agree.  I like Bo and Hope when they get along and our on adventures together, but I have always preferred them with other people.  Bo and Billie were always a much better match I thought.  I also liked Bo with Carly.  I really liked Hope when she was with Patrick Lockhart. 

 

Bo and Hope to me where that couple that got together when they were young who you rooted for but if someone told you they were splitting up, it wouldn't necessarily be a shock.

[Richard]

It's been AMAZING to see The Brady Pub again. In full. Not just a random booth.

[ByaNose]

Rob Wilson can't act to save his life. He showed more life & personality on The Price is Right. Granted, he didn't act on their but his smiling & pointing to prizes was Shakespeare compared to the work he's doing on Days. It's almost painful to watch. It was such a random and odd ending for James Reid. He was on the show everyday and then in the last two months he was off canvas. Then they end his storyline in one day with the reveal of Ben being the killer but no resolution with either Stefano or Victor. I think they should have axed Wilson along time ago and kept Reid. I guess e last storyline we have to endure before the Days in November is Aiden. Another actor who they should be keeping.

[kitmerlot1213]

I was away last week on a lovely fall vacation, and now I'm back catching up and can I say that as awful as Will's murder was, the majority of the actors affected by this storyline have really been bringing their A game?  To me the actors playing Sami. Lucas, Kate, Marlena, Gabi, Sonny, Hope, Rafe and Chad were all believable in their pain and grief and I have to admit to tearing up, especially at Sami, Gabi and Sonny's scenes--well done:)

 

I'm rather enjoying watching the actor playing Ben--he's bringing an angry coldness that's more terrifying to me then watching someone chew the scenery.  His scenes with James Reid were kind of awesome because you could see Clyde's realization that his baby boy is in fact bat shit crazy.

 

The only person who is kind of lacking is KM's Abby--I'm not getting any sense of urgency or worry from her.  Sure, she's doing her whole clutching her stomach and huffing out air, but she just seems there and not emotionally devastated.  KM needs to watch CB, AS and LK for a demonstration.  I do not have high hopes for Abby's realizing that Ben's the killer--I think it's going to be lame.

Edited October 21, 2015 by kitmerlot1213

[rulesoftravel]

 

There's no reason why Abifail needs to be made a bridesmaid in order for Hope/Aiden to be tied to the serial killer story. They're already tied to the serial killer story because Aiden is plotting to kill Hope so Chad will be cleared.

Aiden is plotting to kill Hope so that he can collect a whole lotta insurance money.  Chad being free is just gravy.

 

I loved today.

[boes]

Why is Benjy never mentioned?  Even when Andre was giving his DiMera Dead List, he was left off it.  And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Benjy leave a child, an infant?  It's as Show has decided they never happened.

 

I can think of several others I'd rather Show did that with.  

[Petunia13]

So 3 innocent people had to die for idiot boy to secure Abby's cooch? This is so stupid even senseless tragedies like this and the guy on a murder spree to stalk her mother are just done to prop faves.

Lets get real, dumbass Ben knew her history and experienced it 1st hand when she cheated with Chad. All Failure needs is a man to be with, or interested in another woman, and she's on him like stink on shit. She's about the least difficult woman in Salem to "get."

[JBC344]

Why is Benjy never mentioned?  Even when Andre was giving his DiMera Dead List, he was left off it.  And correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Benjy leave a child, an infant?  It's as Show has decided they never happened.

 

I can think of several others I'd rather Show did that with.  

Yes, Benjy had a wife and child when he was killed.  I remember when they first brought Benjy back as an adult there was a scene with him and Celeste where she was urging him to go into hiding with his wife and child until the Brady/Dimera war blew over. 

[MsTree]

For the record, Bridesmaid does not equal Maid (or Matron) of Honor. Hope could still ask Jen to be her Matron of Honor.

[Kitty Redstone]

I was only half paying attention today, but what was the hillbilly going to tell the mannequin when the police broke them up?  And was that the end of James Read?  Not that I'll miss Clyde the woman-hating pedophile or anything.  I just thought he'd be around for awhile longer, and hoped that somehow TIIC would get Alison Sweeney back for another short stint so she could eviscerate Clyde for killing EJ and Ben for killing Will. 

 

buffynut, Rafe also reminded me of Columbo and his "Just one more thing ..."  I was just a kid when the movies started and didn't see many of them until the last few years (thank you ME-TV and HMC!).

 

I've missed a lot.  Can someone tell me why Ben is slaughtering people?  Can't believe that legacy character Will is dead because of him.  Where does this leave Paul since Sonny is leaving?

 

This is from a few days ago, but did anyone answer your questions?  It's my busy time so I've just sped-read the last few pages.

Edited October 21, 2015 by Kitty Redstone