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S03.E13: One Of Us Now


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Will fighting for his life actually seems to have cured him of his depression. 

I was glad to see Nico is still around.

They are telling us over and over that Betty is old. I wonder if Bluebell had a health scare and they are preparing us for her to exit the show.

I was suprised Faith did not know the story, but I am glad that Jeremy finally filled her in. On the other hand, if Will did not tell him how to recognize a listening device, that is insane.

I liked this episode. 

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2 hours ago, Atlanta said:

I. Do. Not. Want. Him. And. Angie. To. Get. Back. Together. I beg of the powers that be.

Couldn't agree more heartily with this. They are both far more functional as friends and colleagues. I'm hoping that Will acknowledging his feelings helps him move on.

I haven't read the books, but I understand there's a permanent love interest that everyone seems to love, and I wish they'd introduce her. I always thing the longer they put that off on a show like this the harder it's going to be to get the audience to accept her. Just look at the reaction by some to Marion.

1 hour ago, AimingforYoko said:

I'm glad Faith took a beat and figured things out. 

Yup. Helped by Jeremy owning his mistakes. I was really glad to see her and Will team up to help him. I feel like, of all the characters on the show, they are the most alike in that they're the most by the book, so Faith can appreciate Will's solution here.

The dance sequence was everything. Loved Ormwood getting through to the suspect.

Still not sure how I feel about Will shooting and killing the kid. I feel like he didn't need another trauma, and I'm not sure what it added to the show or the character.

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3 hours ago, Atlanta said:

Poor Betty sporting the cone of shame.

I want to know how much fun they had filming the dance scene.

I. Do. Not. Want. Him. And. Angie. To. Get. Back. Together. I beg of the powers that be.

"I do not like the cone of shame." I do like that Betty was able to get over it and be there for Will now that he was willing to accept what she had to offer. 

I want to know how much time they spent rehearsing the dance scene.

I don't think you have to worry. Angie didn't seem into the kiss, and Will only did it because he was high as a paper kite and not thinking clearly. 

1 hour ago, Irlandesa said:

I love that Betty is British. 

My fan theory is that her previous person/family was British and she picked up their accent. 

34 minutes ago, agathapenny said:

Couldn't agree more heartily with this. They are both far more functional as friends and colleagues. I'm hoping that Will acknowledging his feelings helps him move on.

Also, they both realize they are better as friends not romantic partners to some extent. On some level, Will had to know what arresting Angie would do to their relationship. Will may not remember what he did while high, but he clearly is aware he feels regret/remorse and that there is something he needs to apologize for her. Angie thinks of her romantic relationship with Will as practically ancient history, but knows that they understand each other in a way that no one else can/will.   

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3 hours ago, agathapenny said:

Still not sure how I feel about Will shooting and killing the kid.

I would like to reiterate something that was said during the investigation.  Will shot Pablo, and only Pablo (I think that was his name).  He was justified in shooting him given the circumstances.  It was completely accidental that the bullet hit Pablo and ricocheted off into the kid.

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I loved the episode. One loose end:  what happened to the other kids in the nursery who were led to safety?  They told us what happened to the baby and the gun wielding girl but not the others. 

So sorry they also killed Quincy. 

Glad that Faith and Will are working together. That will probably be how they end the season. I hope it’s not a cliffhanger. 

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7 hours ago, Dowel Jones said:

I would like to reiterate something that was said during the investigation.  Will shot Pablo, and only Pablo (I think that was his name).  He was justified in shooting him given the circumstances.  It was completely accidental that the bullet hit Pablo and ricocheted off into the kid.

Oh, I know. I wasn't trying to litigate Will's objective level of guilt. It really doesn't matter, because it's about how guilty Will feels — he feels like The Worst Person in the World. And I'm not sure he needed to be delivered that level of trauma on top of all his other past traumas.

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I liked a lot of this episode, but I also was very worried about the bunny rabbit. When people are that cruel, I was sure Will was going to have to save it or witness it being gotten rid of. 😱

The dance sequence was fun to watch, and I also laughed quite a bit when Angie was trying to rescue Will, and he was so high. Very cute and also suspenseful because, hello, bad guys nearby. Will telling Angie he loves her, well, it's true. I'm sure he will always love her and she him on a deep level. I don't really ship people on shows because I'm usually disappointed. In this case, I like how the show is developing Angie and Will's "new" dynamic. While I don't know if Miriam will turn out to be anything more than a palate cleanser for Will, I hope Angie and Seth continue to work out. But that's as much as I'm hoping for. I'll enjoy the show anyway, especially if they keep putting in the great comedy.

 

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Thank God things are finally looking up for Will a tiny bit, turns out he just needed to defeat a cult and have some Betty cuddles. Poor Betty has the cone of shame, but she also has Will, so its still a win for both of them. I like how this played out, it was really rough for Will but he's finally dealing with what happened, at least to an extent. He still clearly needs all of the therapy, but its a step in the right direction. 

I liked the acoustic version of Last Dance but had no idea what a treat it would lead to. Its sad that Will has basically never smiled more than he did while having a drug induced guilt driven hallucination after being drugged by cultists, but it was such a fun time! Will can dance! Everyone can dance! Everyone looking awesome in their 70s disco wear! That was so much fun even if it took a sad turn at the end. 

I was surprised that Faith apparently didn't really know what happened with Jeremy, glad that he told her most of what happened. Glad that he took responsibility for what happened and told her straight up that Will is the reason he's not in jail, really the only thing Will did wrong was not telling Faith. Very glad that they seem to be alright now. 

I liked Ormwood reaching the ex military cultist, its always good to be reminded that he's good at things besides knocking people down. 

I really hope that they aren't hinting at Angie and Will getting back together as a couple, I like Angie with Dr. Seth and Will and Angie are utterly toxic as a romantic couple. They're great as best friends and platonic soulmates, but when they're a couple they're a hot mess. 

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Aww, Betty being mad at Will.  I've heard pets can be a little salty when their people have been away.  As for the cone of shame, there are donuts that are more comfortable.  I'm glad Will seems like he might be on the road to recovering though yes, he still has a way to go.

I'm also fine with Will and Angie acknowledging that they love each and know each other like no other but they definitely work better as friends and need to stay in that lane.  Hopefully Angie and Seth can explore and get to know each other.  Even if they don't stay together (and I don't see that happening) maybe it gives Angie incentive to know she can function in a relationship that doesn't center around Will.

I did like Ormewood figuring out how to reach the cultist and was glad they didn't rush in there blind and wind up with a massacre.

Glad that Jeremy told his mom what really happened and that Faith was able to not be so mad at Will (even though agree he should have told from the start).  I do hope they can all take Rafael down with as little blood shed as possible (especially for Faith and Jeremy's sake).  I can't wait to hear what Amanda is going to have to say.

Finally, I loved the dance sequence and that nearly everyone was in it.  They all looked like they were having fun.

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Did Nico say that Betty had a chipped tooth?  If so, why would she be wearing a cone?

In my head cannon, Ormewood is the same character that McLaughlin played in S1E02 of Leverage (Corporal Robert Perry, a returning vet).  He's taken all the $$ that the Leverage crew got him and changed his name and moved.  (Yes, I know that Ormewood doesn't have $$ so this falls apart.  Let me have my fun!!!)

I do like Will/Angie being open in their feelings for one another and I do think they're better as deeply connected, non-romantic friends.

Dr. Seth still being kinda Golden Labrador to me.  If we did Character threads, that'd be my suggestion for him: Dr Seth - Golden Labrador.

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Add me to the list to those who prefer Will and Angie as very good friends. Angie seems much happier this year with Dr. Seth even if he is more into her than she is into him.

I am very glad that the bunny is all right.

Yes, the dance sequence was everything.

8 hours ago, HyeChaps said:

Seth is a doctor.  Was it enough that he told Will to get checked out.

Yes. He's not Will's doctor.

7 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

I loved the episode. One loose end:  what happened to the other kids in the nursery who were led to safety?  They told us what happened to the baby and the gun wielding girl but not the others.

Someone (Angie?) said that they were with Child Services.

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9 hours ago, tennisgurl said:

I liked the acoustic version of Last Dance but had no idea what a treat it would lead to.

When the woman started playing the ukulele and singing, I knew the song sounded familiar. I was happily surprised when Will said it was Last Dance. And then, like you said, what a pleasure when he hallucinated dancing to Donna Summer. That whole sequence was so much fun. I'd love to see the cast talking about filming it. 

I loved when Angie was trying to rescue him, and as they reached their hands toward each other, when Will touched her finger he said, "Boop!"

7 hours ago, fastiller said:

Did Nico say that Betty had a chipped tooth?  If so, why would she be wearing a cone?

I didn't think about that. Maybe the reasoning was to keep her from chewing on something hard, but that couldn't avoided by keeping hard treats away from her. Seems they could have come up with some minor injury, like cutting -- just barely! -- her paw on something.

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Dr. Seth still being kinda Golden Labrador to me.  If we did Character threads, that'd be my suggestion for him: Dr Seth - Golden Labrador.

Maybe Mr Peanutbutter from BoJack Horseman.

I thought this was a very good ep. Robin Weigert was excellent. 

I didn't realize Faith didn't know the details about what happened with Jeremy before Will made him a CI. I find that far-fetched.

 No to Angie and Will restarting a romantic relationship. And I don't like seeing jealous Seth.

Does anyone know who did Betty's English voice?

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While I was watching this, I was thinking that unless something remarkable happens, the disco sequence would be the best thing I'd see on TV this week. Everybody throwing down, the return of Nico, and Ramon Rodriguez making that leather blazer and Qiana shirt work. But then we got to the Betty and Will scene, which was just as good in a different way. Turning her back on him and cocking her tiny little head! There should be special Emmys for dogs. When she forgave him, I was a mess.

So many good lines in this episode too. Ormewood looking into the septic tank and saying, "I think I saw an eel!" High as a kite Will saying, "You know, I was going to ask you to marry me," and Angie responding, "Well now you're just being an asshole." I also loved Amanda realizing that Will and Faith had worked things out and was clearly wanting to know what happened, but instead deciding to leave well enough alone.

7 hours ago, fastiller said:

Did Nico say that Betty had a chipped tooth?  If so, why would she be wearing a cone?

I think she said that the vet had to pull the tooth, so the cone is probably to keep Betty from chewing on anything while the socket heals. That's my guess anyway.

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So this might be weird, but when Will first got to the cult place (previous episode), I thought he and Rain made a connection.  Sure, it was "fake" in that Will was undercover and his story was made up, but it was based on Will's actual guilt about killing Marco.  I was thinking that an interesting twist would be that Will's time there actually helped him work through the guilt and pain.  Rain started off seeming very understanding and empathetic, and a lot of what she said made real sense.

I know, we eventually got to see that she was a champion-level manipulating gaslighter, but it still seemed like a missed opportunity that Will didn't seem to get anything positive out of it.  All we got was "I'm the worst person in the world" which he got directly from one of the other members.

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22 hours ago, fastiller said:

Did Nico say that Betty had a chipped tooth?  If so, why would she be wearing a cone?

He also said that the tooth was extracted, which would require stitches.  The cone would be there to stop Betty from scratching the wound.  Been there, done that with my own dogs.

ETA:  replied before I saw the other replies.  D'oh!

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28 minutes ago, Orbert said:

So this might be weird, but when Will first got to the cult place (previous episode), I thought he and Rain made a connection.  Sure, it was "fake" in that Will was undercover and his story was made up, but it was based on Will's actual guilt about killing Marco.  I was thinking that an interesting twist would be that Will's time there actually helped him work through the guilt and pain.  Rain started off seeming very understanding and empathetic, and a lot of what she said made real sense.

Not sure if it means anything but Will's "sacred water" trip was light and surrounded by people he considered friends that offer him support, instead of being surrounded by flames as Marco constantly stabbed Will with a pitchfork. Hopefully that might be enough to alter his outlook.

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I'm glad Jeremy was honest - finally - with his mother about what he did to create this mess, and how Will took the only action he could to help him out of it.  

One jarring point for me was when Ormewood was in the cell, trying to do the instant deprogramming of that guy, who attacked him, had his arm around his neck, and the other officer asked Ormewood if he needed help.  In that situation, with an officer being attacked, that officer would not have asked, would have waded in, doing whatever he could to get other officers there to help.  

Will is finally getting the therapy he needs from the best therapist - Betty.  

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5 hours ago, Orbert said:

I was thinking that an interesting twist would be that Will's time there actually helped him work through the guilt and pain. 

I felt like it at least started that process for him, especially that scene at the end where Finn was holding the gun on him and Angie had her gun on Finn and Will was saying "not the kid," which felt like he was flashing back to Marco in that moment. By going undercover, he was ultimately able to help save Finn and the other kids, which I think is enough to at least get him back to functioning in his job.

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3 hours ago, dleighg said:

can someone remind me about the uke? How did Will know to bring it?

He was repairing for a woman. 

2 hours ago, Driad said:

The police did not have much choice in the short term, and the children would not necessarily be in foster care for a long time.  Hopefully the authorities are trying to find their parents (DNA tests etc.).

Since some of the children there had parents who were part of the cult, would the children be allowed to go with their parents if the parents left the cult? A condition of having custody of their children is to leave the cult and probably regular check-ins with Family Services or something else. 

1 hour ago, peeayebee said:

I believe he repaired it for the woman. It was hers but was broken. She must have told him about it off-camera, unless there was a scene from last week that I forgot about.

I agree with you. I think the earlier interaction happened off-screen and it wasn't something we saw.

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3 hours ago, dleighg said:

isn't that "bad TV"? I mean I was totally flumoxed.

Can you clarify/explain what you meant by "bad TV?" I think of this kind of thing happening all the time. Seeing characters returning home after a night out or going shopping seems pretty standard to me. We didn't see them leave or actually go shopping, but we do see them return home. 

Did you mean we didn't know that Will could repair musical instruments so it seems like a new random plot convenient skill that came more or less out of nowhere? 

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2 hours ago, dleighg said:

Maybe I'm the only one who missed it, but I don't remember any discussion of a broken Uke at all, or seeing the instrument.

I think Will just came into the child care room and handed the woman the uke and one of them said something about fixing it.

The problem I had with it is that Will and the woman had a rapport that I don't think would really be established in the what couple days maybe that Will was supposed to have been there. Or why the woman would even think to ask him to fix her secret uke when she'd known him for such a short amount of time. I wondered if maybe we had a little time jump and Will had been there like at least a couple weeks.

But I don't really care because this episode was amazing and the dance sequence will enter my list of greatest scenes of all time.

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32 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

The problem I had with it is that Will and the woman had a rapport that I don't think would really be established in the what couple days maybe that Will was supposed to have been there. Or why the woman would even think to ask him to fix her secret uke when she'd known him for such a short amount of time. I wondered if maybe we had a little time jump and Will had been there like at least a couple weeks.

Those are good points. Now you're making me try to think of scenarios where she would have been comfortable enough to talk to him about it.

OK. How about this... He was in the woods and came across her hiding her uke, just as the young woman had hidden her rabbit. He's sympathetic to Naomi, she sees that and confides in him. It's possible the show had filmed such a scene, but  needed to edit something out and figured that scene was disposable. 

Still, you made good points.

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6 hours ago, dleighg said:

Maybe I'm the only one who missed it, but I don't remember any discussion of a broken Uke at all, or seeing the instrument.

To me this is the equivalent of Sam dropping off an order for Alice on The Brady Bunch. We never heard her mention the order, we never saw her place the order, but he shows up with the order and we/I just accept it because it's television and that's how the medium works. 

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