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S03.E10: The Power of the Seer

AntFTW

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LakeGal

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I believe Britney votes out Danielle.  I think if she voted Ivar it would be another tie and they would have shown us that.  Then their cliffhanger would have been leaving us to wonder what the game of chance they have to play to break the tie is.  But we don't get that because Danielle will be voted out.  I really think Britney thought Dolores voted Danielle.  Britney didn't want to be the only vote that didn't go against Danielle.  Danielle will have to get up and say she is a Traitor.  This could really help Britney.  

Danielle takes up way too much screen time for me.  I can't even watch or listen to her.  It makes me irritated.  I so hope she is gone so I can continue to enjoy the show without her annoying me. 

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ByaNose

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Yeah, it looks like Britney is shocked by the Dolores vote because she flipped. I don’t think Britney counted on that happening and switched her vote to Danielle. That said, I’m not sure Britney will win. All the faithfuls are going to suspect her and banish her…..I’m guess. The cliffhanger sucked. Unfortunately, they need content for next week so they had to leave it on a cliffhanger. 

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janeyjay

janeyjay

As time goes on, Danielle sounds more and more like a slightly unhinged Mafia hitman. Yes, we know she thinks Britney is her girl and has her back. Blah blah going to annihilate Gabby at the round table. ACTING when she's at the breakfast table or trying to banboozle someone (looking at you, Dylan.) Rant, rinse, repeat. 

I found the entire episode tedious, as I was anticipating the whole Seer thing to be part of it. As much as it was way past Sandoval's time to go, his antics would have at least livened things up a bit. 

 

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peachmangosteen

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8 hours ago, LakeGal said:

Danielle takes up way too much screen time for me.  I can't even watch or listen to her.  It makes me irritated.  I so hope she is gone so I can continue to enjoy the show without her annoying me. 

There's only 1 episode left so even if Danielle doesn't go you won't have to endure her much longer lol.

But it's pretty obvious Britney voted for Danielle. That didn't need to be a cliffhanger. And for us to not even know who the seer is let alone see the power be used is stupid. The editing decisions just get worse and worse.

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MicheleinPhilly

MicheleinPhilly

This episode was stupid. 

I think Britney absolutely voted for Danielle and I will laugh LOUDLY when Danielle has to do her talking head and she suddenly reverts back to hating her and not trusting her. 

I am a bit confused as to how it's between Ivar and Danielle though instead of Gabby and Danielle. Aside from Dolores, was anyone talking about Ivar? Did they do it just to piggyback on Dolores' once again, totally useless vote?

I don't really give a crap who wins at this point but if Dolores does, I'm going to be a little salty. She literally has not done a single thing of note. Has she ever even voted for a traitor? 

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DEL901

DEL901

3 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

There's only 1 episode left so even if Danielle doesn't go you won't have to endure her much longer lol.

But it's pretty obvious Britney voted for Danielle. That didn't need to be a cliffhanger. And for us to not even know who the seer is let alone see the power be used is stupid. The editing decisions just get worse and worse.

We do know how the power is used…Alan said the Seer could ask one person if they were a traitor or a Faithful and they had to answer truthfully.  That’s why Danielle and Brittany were so desperate to get it.

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DEL901

DEL901

1 minute ago, MicheleinPhilly said:

This episode was stupid. 

I think Britney absolutely voted for Danielle and I will laugh LOUDLY when Danielle has to do her talking head and she suddenly reverts back to hating her and not trusting her. 

I am a bit confused as to how it's between Ivar and Danielle though instead of Gabby and Danielle. Aside from Dolores, was anyone talking about Ivar? Did they do it just to piggyback on Dolores' once again, totally useless vote?

I don't really give a crap who wins at this point but if Dolores does, I'm going to be a little salty. She literally has not done a single thing of note. Has she ever even voted for a traitor? 

Since there are only six votes, with 2 locked in for Gabby and 2 locked in for Danielle, if Dolores voted Ivar, then that last vote, Dylan, would be the swing vote and they weren’t 100% certain which way he would go, so Ivar seemed to be the safer choice.   

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fishcakes

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I want to believe that Britney voted for Danielle because that would be hilarious, but I have a horrible feeling that it's going to be a tie, then Ivar goes out on a random draw. Because why wouldn't they show us Danielle leaving? We'd all be out here dancing around and screaming, CAN'T TALK NOW I'M MAKING SANGRIA! But also we'd be less inclined to watch the finale because nothing could top it, and who cares which of the remaining clods gets the money? They're all still there only because they've been completely ineffectual. With a cliffhanger, I'll watch next week just hoping it's Danielle, then if it's not, I'll end up watching the whole episode just because it's already on.

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AntFTW

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5 hours ago, NeenerNeener said:

But who knows if Briteny thinks strategically or not.

Who knows? Britney, thus far, has really had Danielle's back more than anyone else has in her short time as a traitor. She has put in a lot of work to divert the focus from Danielle.

The shift to Ivar was unexpected. They were going for Gabby, but then Dolores votes for Ivar and Danielle and Britney piles on. They were this close 🤏 to pulling it off. Obviously, Danielle and Britney know that Ivar is not a traitor. I, again, think that Dolores is truly burning her vote. I'm not convinced that Dolores thinks Ivar is a traitor. I'm wondering if the shift from Gabby to Ivar was planned before the roundtable.

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65mickey

65mickey

9 minutes ago, AntFTW said:

I'm wondering if the shift from Gabby to Ivar was planned before the roundtable.

I think it was. There was no good solution. If they voted out Gabby the most vocal against Danielle it would have been obvious that Danielle was a traitor. But so what. She would have had Brittany and Delores and the three of them against Dylan and Iver would have given them the advantage.   

Yogisbooboo64

Yogisbooboo64

ARGH!!  Way to frickin’ go Traitors, teasing me like that….although, I believe Britney’s shocked face was due to Delores voting Ivar and not Danielle as she thought she would due to the head nod.  Furthermore, Britney said that she wouldn’t vote Danielle out.  Le sigh.

I literally screamed at the telly when greedy Dylan pulled the doll one time too many….didn’t you get the memo from Gabby, who did it first?!  I hope he is the Seer, Gabby didn’t look like she had many coins so that leaves her out.

Sooooo can’t stand Danielle and want her out like I need air to breathe!

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MicheleinPhilly

MicheleinPhilly

1 hour ago, Yogisbooboo64 said:

I literally screamed at the telly when greedy Dylan pulled the doll one time too many….didn’t you get the memo from Gabby, who did it first?!  I hope he is the Seer, Gabby didn’t look like she had many coins so that leaves her out.

Unless he found a LOT of coins in the forest, I don't think he'll be the seer. In 2 of the 3 challenges, he banked no money at all. 

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Yogisbooboo64

Yogisbooboo64

1 hour ago, Neveragain said:

If you want to win, you vote Danielle out.   

EXACTLY!  I watched the BB Reindeer Games and while I don’t remember what Britney did that made Danielle feel like she betrayed her, at the end of the day this is a muhfuckin’ game, and no frickin’ way am I gonna kowtow to you because you made me feel bad when we first saw each other at the beginning of the season!

26 minutes ago, MicheleinPhilly said:

Unless he found a LOT of coins in the forest, I don't think he'll be the seer. In 2 of the 3 challenges, he banked no money at all. 

I mentioned Dylan because it looked like he was picking up more coins…from what I recall, it doesn’t matter what you made in the first two parts, if you had a lot of coins you have a good chance of being the Seer.

('Sup Michele, I'm from Philly too, currently living in G-Town!!)

Madding crowd

Madding crowd

They should have had the seer earlier. It seems likely that it is Danielle which would be a waste. Dylan is the only one who is wavering and he didn’t win anything the first two rounds. Gabby and Ivar already suspect Danielle and Delores won’t pick Danielle or Brittany to question if she’s the seer so it seems wasted.

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SourK

SourK

I was surprised by how sorry I was to lose Tom. I would have laughed really hard if he'd won. At this point, I guess I'm cheering for Britney?

8 hours ago, MicheleinPhilly said:

I am a bit confused as to how it's between Ivar and Danielle though instead of Gabby and Danielle. Aside from Dolores, was anyone talking about Ivar? Did they do it just to piggyback on Dolores' once again, totally useless vote?

I think so. From their POV, they know votes are coming for Danielle, so they have to go with Dolores if she says she's going for Ivar. I actually thought Danielle played that well when she read her vote out -- kind of like, "I'm not going to go after Gabby just because she was misguided and went after me. I'm actually looking for a Traitor." But unless there's stuff we weren't shown, no one made a very good argument for Ivar.

8 hours ago, NeenerNeener said:

There's a good chance that Danielle won the Seer position and she was also voted out at the round table. That would make the whole "Seer" twist useless, so maybe that's why the cliffhanger. Got to drum up suspense somehow.

I also think Danielle probably won seer. So, if she's about to get voted out and have nobody get the seer power, that's anticlimactic and I can see why they would cut the episode where they did.

However, I can also see a scenario where Danielle is not about to get voted out, but she still has the seer power, so nothing interesting happens, and that's why they cut the episode here.

Either way, the weird cliffhanger is a good sign that nothing interesting will happen.

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Quilt Fairy

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I found this episode so boring and the challenge so confusing that I actually turned off the TV in the middle of the episode.  I don't watch any of the reality shows these people have been on (Survivor is the sole exception) and nothing about them has made me want to start.  I do have a question, though. I thought that if the traitors recruited someone, there was no murder that night.  Of course, I also don't recall the chosen faithful being offered the choice of being recruited or being murdered.  Is this a change from prior seasons?

ETA:  Also, Alan Cummings' outfits have gone from being a little garish and OTT to downright ridiculous. 

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sugarbaker design

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2 hours ago, Quilt Fairy said:

I also don't recall the chosen faithful being offered the choice of being recruited or being murdered.  Is this a change from prior seasons?

Absolutely a change from prior seasons. Probably because a faithful from season 2 (Peter?) was recruited by Parv and Phaedra with no ultimatum. Peter refused, which the producers did not see coming. Hence the new rule: join or die.

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Thalia

Thalia

4 hours ago, Yogisbooboo64 said:

EXACTLY!  I watched the BB Reindeer Games and while I don’t remember what Britney did that made Danielle feel like she betrayed her, at the end of the day this is a muhfuckin’ game, and no frickin’ way am I gonna kowtow to you because you made me feel bad when we first saw each other at the beginning of the season!

I also watched Reindeer Games and came to the opposite conclusion, that Britney would do anything to avoid angering Danielle again.  Britney really was distraught over Danielle's anger that night on BB: RG.  I had wondered if it would blow over after the show ended, but as we saw at the beginning of this show, girlfriend knows how to hold a grudge.

 @Yogisbooboo64, they had to do a timed competition; if a player made it through they had to choose the next person to go.  Each succeeding person had less time to complete the task.  Britney had to choose between Danielle and someone else.   Danielle was so angry/upset she didn't even try to finish the task.   But if the other person had gone and finished, Danielle would have had even less time.  I thought Danielle's anger was out of all proportion to Britney's decision, which was certainly not done in an effort to betray Danielle.  

Britney does have a plausible argument if she is the only one voting to save Danielle.  Loyalty, friendship outside the game, etc.   

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Hanahope

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I will laugh so hard if Brittany inadvertently votes out Danielle.  

B and D had to switch to Ivar when they heard Gabby was coming for D hard and Dolores wouldn’t agree absolutely to vote for Gabby and both Ivar and Dylan were considering voting for Danielle as well.  Once Dolores confirmed she was voting Ivar they had to flip to him too and hope Dylan voted for Gabby for a 3-2-1 vote.  
 

30 Helens

30 Helens

Like most of you, I assume Brit voted for Danielle or why the cliffhanger. I’m just disappointed that it was an accident. I wanted Britney to twist that knife, so I could have a good laugh at what would certainly be an overly dramatic reaction to being heartlessly backstabbed.

Who am I kidding, Danielle will writhe on the floor wailing whether the vote is intentional or not. So laugh I will. But there’s also the chance Danielle is not voted out, but is still outed by the Seer. Either way, I think she’s toast.

I’m hoping Bargain Efron wins. I think he’s played the smartest game, and I like him. I’m also ok with a Gabby win. She may dress in dry cleaner bags, but I was impressed by how well she stood up to Danielle at the round table. I used to root for Britney, but she’s not even trying to win.

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Crazydoxielady

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Shallow notes: I’ve really hated this season. I stay annoyed. To be forced to watch Danielle’s stupid acting and look at her utter fail of a hairstyle (she could at the very least tie it back) and wrinkled forehead? Her outfits are not cute at all. It’s a big no.
Dolo also looks beyond rough. Without that soft Housewives lighting she is just not very attractive. She’s also stupid. On this show and in life. Anyone writing a character witness for Tommy Manzo stays on my bad side, never mind her ongoing preference for a married man who’s been separated for eleven years and “just” filed for divorce? GTFOOH. 
Alan and the coffee filter around his neck? Its all a bit too over the top. His stylist this season needs a written warning.  
With Danielle ruining the season I’m left wondering how it would have gone with Boston Rob or Bob the Drag Queen still there. Even Dorinda. They managed to squander a Kate Chastain appearance to only one episode and wasted her sitting on a throne next to Toothy Headbands McGee. 
I guess I’m rooting for Britney or the Lesser Ephron. Gabby isn’t terrible, although the baby voice can be a bit grating… but she’s not stupid.  I just can’t take another moment of Danielle and her writhing around on the floor in the most unconvincing fashion I’ve been made to bear witness to. I’ve watched every iteration of Traitors there’s been to watch including UK, Aussie,& NZ! This season was a chore not a delight. Ready for it to end as I’m not sure what could save it. 

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SourK

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18 hours ago, Quilt Fairy said:

I do have a question, though. I thought that if the traitors recruited someone, there was no murder that night.  Of course, I also don't recall the chosen faithful being offered the choice of being recruited or being murdered.  Is this a change from prior seasons?

Based on watching the other English-language versions, I think the rule changes when they get down to one Traitor. If it happens too soon, suddenly the Traitor doesn't have a choice about whether to recruit or not, and the person they're recruiting gets an ultimatum instead of an invitation.

I have never seen anybody turn down the ultimatum and I'm not 100% sure they actually can. I really wish we could see the rules written down.

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peachmangosteen

peachmangosteen

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29 minutes ago, SourK said:

I have never seen anybody turn down the ultimatum and I'm not 100% sure they actually can. I really wish we could see the rules written down.

If they turn it down, they're murdered instead.

This was the same thing that happened with Phaedra/Kate last season, isn't it?

So yea, if it gets down to 1 traitor, then the whole 'accept the invitation to be a traitor or be murdered' clause is triggered.

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LakeGal

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I have seen people turn down the traitors in other country versions.  It is then their choice whether to tell anyone at the breakfast. It is later in the game when the person has to accept or be murdered.  And yes, I have seen it twice where people refused to be a traitor and were murdered instead. They felt very strongly about being faithful.   

Ms.Lulu

Ms.Lulu

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I agree with everyone!

On a revote, I think that Brit would have to seize the opportunity and get Danielle out. It is the best strategic move. It will make her look like a faithful. Would she ever be foolish enough not to do that?
 

Brit has a bigger chance of winning with Dylan, Ivar and Gabby 'running' the game. Delores has been terrible. And I have to believe that Danielle will exact BB revenge on Brit by sacrificing her to the group. If Danielle stays around, I think Dolo will vote with Danielle and ensure a traitor win. Dolo has wasted votes, not contributed a lot of challenges, and can't see the traitors in front of her. Her getting a share of a faithful win would be disappointing.
 

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