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[Elizzikra]

34 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

I don't understand why the original house was removed from the market. Are Kody and Robyn really going to be able to pay 2 huge mortgages? I would love to know what is going on with the first house. 

Kody and Robyn can’t pay one huge mortgage, much less two. In fact, I don’t see how they can pay one relatively modest mortgage.

Someday the Brown family financial house of cards is going to come toppling down…

[Salacious Kitty]

1 hour ago, 65mickey said:

I don't understand why the original house was removed from the market. Are Kody and Robyn really going to be able to pay 2 huge mortgages? I would love to know what is going on with the first house. 

They can't sell assets with the pending child support case. 

[altopower]

7 hours ago, dariafan said:

For someone whose only fear is poverty, he sure likes dancing really close to it 

Oh, please don't remind me of Kody dancing in any context!

[xls]

Somebody posted this on Twitter🤣

[ginger90]

1 hour ago, Salacious Kitty said:

They can't sell assets with the pending child support case. 

Actually they can.

[Salacious Kitty]

6 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Actually they can.

They can? I thought assets were frozen. Well that just gives Kody more play to hide his ill-gotten gains. 

[Elizzikra]

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I don't understand why the original house was removed from the market. 

Someone with real estate knowledge can weigh in, but I think it's pretty common to take a property off the market if it hasn't sold for 30 days. I think you then re-list, perhaps at a lower price and maybe with a different agent? I can't quite remember from when I sold my house but I think the initial contract with my seller's agent was 30 days so there was an incentive to sell it quickly. 

[heatherchandler]

On 10/27/2024 at 3:12 AM, Yeah No said:

Yeah, but isn't that if you only have one mortgage? If they still owned the old "mansion" and CP and still had mortgages on them they might need a higher income unless they put at least one of them on the market and got the bridge loan.

Yeah they may have to prove that they can afford both mortgages but still nowhere near 600,000.  
They probably do make about that combined, with the show.  Although who knows how much reality pays.

[Yeah No]

1 hour ago, Elizzikra said:

Someone with real estate knowledge can weigh in, but I think it's pretty common to take a property off the market if it hasn't sold for 30 days. I think you then re-list, perhaps at a lower price and maybe with a different agent? I can't quite remember from when I sold my house but I think the initial contract with my seller's agent was 30 days so there was an incentive to sell it quickly. 

Yeah I was thinking that too, although I'm no real estate expert. They may be waiting it out for a while until there's a new crop of buyers. It tends to happen when the property is overpriced. They think it will be more attractive at their high asking price if it looks like a new listing,  although there are ways of finding out its history and if it's been listed before. Some will take their properties off the market for the Winter because it's slow anyway, but if they need to have a house on the market to get a bridge loan that wouldn't make any sense. Maybe they took the bridge loan out on Coyote Pass and decided to rent out the "mansion" for now?

[LilyD]

We actually took our house off the market for a few weeks about 7 years ago. Did some interior tweaks (rearranged furniture and got a few new bits in) relisted it again for 10k less and sold it quickly.

We also had a bridge loan for the new house. The main requirement  was enough equity in the old house, income was 2nd to that. Such a loan is only meant for a very short period and I suppose different money lenders have their own terms...

[smarty]

What do you suppose the land out at Coyote Pass is worth these days?  Houses in Flagstaff have almost doubled in price since 2018 but have land prices also increased that much?

Edited October 29, 2024 by smarty

[Auntie Freeze]

Given they've had (I think) 2 home equity loans or whatever you call it, I'd be surprised if the She Ra Chateau has much equity left in it to use as financial leverage.

[ginger90]

10 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:

They can? I thought assets were frozen. Well that just gives Kody more play to hide his ill-gotten gains. 

They were never married. If this custody/ child support filing was part of a legal divorce it would apply because it would be considered shared assets.

 

A particular Youtube person did not have any official documents at her disposal. She showed standard paperwork. Just like she said Kody was countersuing Christine. He was responding to the filing which is required, it wasn’t a lawsuit.

 

 

Edited October 29, 2024 by ginger90

[AZChristian]

11 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

They probably do make about that combined, with the show.  Although who knows how much reality pays.

Y'all are discounting the probable huge income from My Sisterwives Closet.  Jewelry always sells well.

(And then I laughed and I laughed and I laughed.)

[juicyfruit]

On 10/28/2024 at 5:23 PM, LilyD said:

 I noticed there's a guest house...a coincidence? Suddenly our prediction of Robyn wanting to keep her kids close becomes scarily real! 

 

On 10/28/2024 at 5:32 PM, AZChristian said:

Maybe Dayton wanted to move out of the RV into something more permanent?

My theory - it will be Kody's space. Remember, he wanted to build his own house on the CP property... and I think Robyn is tired of having him in her house all the time. More wall space for the paintings plus a place to put Kody? It was a total win-win for her.

[CalicoKitty]

18 hours ago, Yeah No said:

Yeah I was thinking that too, although I'm no real estate expert. They may be waiting it out for a while until there's a new crop of buyers. It tends to happen when the property is overpriced. They think it will be more attractive at their high asking price if it looks like a new listing,  although there are ways of finding out its history and if it's been listed before. Some will take their properties off the market for the Winter because it's slow anyway, but if they need to have a house on the market to get a bridge loan that wouldn't make any sense. Maybe they took the bridge loan out on Coyote Pass and decided to rent out the "mansion" for now?

Where I live, there is a property history listed on the internet listing.  The history tells the price and date of all the listing and sales.  It will show what this house was listed for and what it sold for.  Or it will say "taken off the market".  It would be interesting to see how many times this house has been resold, and if others have had to take it off the market and then relist it.

[Orcinus orca]

5 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

Where I live, there is a property history listed on the internet listing.  The history tells the price and date of all the listing and sales.  It will show what this house was listed for and what it sold for.  Or it will say "taken off the market".  It would be interesting to see how many times this house has been resold, and if others have had to take it off the market and then relist it.

Zillow lists all of this.  Plus the environmental hazards of the area.

[General Days]

I think it's possible that the guest house could either be for Dayton, for Robyn's mom, or for Kody's mom.

 

It's not for the Meri, because it's not the barndominium. 

[Irate Panda]

 I know we give Kody a hard time, and we all think Kody only cares about SADKRAB, but did ever occur to anyone that Kody is just trying to nurture the longest and most LOYAL relationship he’s ever had?  We all giggle, but he HAS been her best customer! 

I mean if purchasing a 2 million dollar home for the only one that has TRULY been there for you, day in and day out for DECADES, is wrong, then I don’t want to be right. I don’t think it’s wrong to show her how much you appreciate her and pamper her.  I mean he’s still working out the details on getting her in and out of the house, 

 

 

 

but unlike the OG 3 and even Robyn, this little beauty doesn’t seem to care whether this patch of land has water.  She’s going to enjoy her pool 😊

 

and for those questioning the guest house, it’s for the spirit u-hauls that have yet to be manufactured to house Robyn’s cherished teddies and precious moments that were rudely jostled and traumatized when the OG 3 crammed them in their dilapidated, bald tire having, duct taped mini-vans instead of allowing them to ride comfortably in a rose gold convertible with a balding father of 17.  The DISLOYALTY!  

Even though I don’t like to gossip, I’m pretty sure Janelle’s boot lamp told the teddies they would NEVER be part of the family and Meri’s soup can Thanksgiving decorations called the Precious Moments figurines DUST COLLECTERS! I’m not even going to get into what Christine’s mock tapioca said to Robyn’s lasagna.  It’s just too painful! That boot,soup can, and pudding MADE Kody HATE them! 

Also, I think we are all ignoring the pink elephant in the room. Christine exaggerates saying Kody NEVER came around.  He was there at least 4 or 5 times a DECADE.  He’d spent all day primping his hair using his curly girl scrunch method, only to walk into Christine’s house to find person after person after person combing, brushing,and flinging their thick luxurious hair! A man or in this case Kody could only take so much! A knife to the kidneys…more like a hot roller to the eyesight. Poor poor Kody 😔

[SunnyBeBe]

On 10/28/2024 at 11:25 PM, heatherchandler said:

Yeah they may have to prove that they can afford both mortgages but still nowhere near 600,000.  
They probably do make about that combined, with the show.  Although who knows how much reality pays.

I maintain my suspicion that Kody has at least one wealthy benefactor  from whom he receives generous support.  I have no proof, but have suspected it for years due to his decisions and lifestyle. While he may be appalling now, he’s previously demonstrated a certain degree of charm. 🙄 One famous benefactor was the late Bunny Mellon.  I don’t suspect her, but someone who finds him appealing.  I see no other explanation for the assets.  Even considering the debt.  

Edited October 30, 2024 by SunnyBeBe

[General Days]

 

On 10/27/2024 at 4:12 AM, Yeah No said:

Yeah, but isn't that if you only have one mortgage? If they still owned the old "mansion" and CP and still had mortgages on them they might need a higher income unless they put at least one of them on the market and got the bridge loan.

 

I remembered that last year, I read that the Browns had already paid off Coyote Pass, so I searched on "coyote" in this thread and found a conversation leading to this from almost a year ago. 

 

On 11/22/2023 at 1:20 PM, ginger90 said:

It’s paid off.

 

Whatever Kody and Robyn's financing situation is regarding their new home, it seems likely that Coyote Pass would be counted among their assets, not their debts. And like someone said up-thread, they could get a bridge loan on the McMansion, to be paid off when they sold it.

@ginger90 — do you know when Coyote Pass was paid off?

 

On 10/26/2024 at 4:03 PM, Sasha888 said:

- Is this the reason for the SADKRAB entertainment LLC? So they can monetize the adult kids appearances, and purchase things under this company or a similar trust? While keeping it separate from K & R's personal income, so that it can't be touched by any ex-wives?

 

 

That Kody and Robyn named their LLC "DABSARK Entertainment LLC" does not mean that Dayton, Aurora, Breanna, Solomon, and Ariella are members of the LLC.

Only Kody and Robyn are listed on a state of Arizona Corporation Commission website. Kody and Robyn just used everyone's initials to come up with a name. That's all. 

 

 

DABSARK was created in May of 2022.

Prior to that, all the Brown parents together had one LLC — Kody Brown Family Entertainment (KBFE). I think every time they moved to a new state, they had to start a new LLC in that state. I don't know if they specifically dissolved/reformed KBFE after Christine left, or if the final dissolution of KBFE and the creation of DABSARK happened then.

Traditionally, the none of the kids (or other people who appear on the show) have gotten paid, and some of the kids have confirmed this in the past. The kids who got married on the show did get money toward their wedding budgets.

I suspect Tony and Mykelti could be getting paid for this season. I haven't heard that. I just think it's likely, because we have seen so much of them.

On the other hand, they could just be doing the show for free to help Christine, and for the publicity to help Mykelti build up her presence (for her Patreon and her MLM sales). It could also be that Christine just tosses some money her kids' way, when they appear on the show. 

I don't think Robyn's kids are getting paid via the production. They haven't been on the show much — a quick Game Night shoot here, a couch segment interview there. That's it. It could be that Robyn and Kody throw some money their way when they appear, or the kids could just be helping Mom and Dad keep their show. Ditto Christine and Janelle's kids. 

Originally, only the five Brown adults got paid by the show. That money went to the Kody Brown Family Entertainment LLC. Now Kody and Robyn's shares probably go to DABSARK, and the other wives get their shares individually. 

[ginger90]

1 hour ago, General Days said:

do you know when Coyote Pass was paid off?

It was filed as  paid off June 2, 2023.

[ginger90]

As far as the LLCs, Kody Brown Family Entertainment filed for Articles of Dissolution, or it was recorded on 10/08/2023, which is the day after Christine’s wedding. So the two did exist at the same time for quite a while, probably not actively though.

[laurakaye]

I have so many questions that I don't know how to ask, but when the Kody Brown Family's LLC existed, does that mean any TLC money would get distributed there, and then someone - perhaps legal wife Robyn since we know she's so good with bills and such - would distribute it to the other wives?  It's just that none of this makes any sense to me so my only thought is that Kody and Robyn have been skimming the family's money for years and keeping more than their share to themselves.

I'm probably way off but I can't wrap my head around their spending habits so my assumption is that something nefarious is going on.  Plus, this is Kody and Robyn we're talking about, so...

 

[AZChristian]

15 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

I have so many questions that I don't know how to ask, but when the Kody Brown Family's LLC existed, does that mean any TLC money would get distributed there . . . 

I believe it was originally thought (no proof that I know of) that the money was paid into the LLC and then distributed equally five ways - each wife and Kody.  We used to opine that it made no sense that Meri would get a full share of the same amount as Christine and Janelle, who had five more kids each.  And, of course, Kody had no house payments or anything else to pay for except perms and botox.

That LLC was dissolved last year and a new one set up with just Robyn and Kody.  The other wives have their own contracts (and paychecks) directly with TLC, so they don't have to worry about financing Robyn's "artwork" and Precious Moments figurines.  It will be hysterically funny if the current show morphs into "Sisterwives No More," featuring Meri, Janelle, and Christine.  No Kody, no Robyn. 

I'd watch it!

[suzeecat]

41 minutes ago, AZChristian said:

It will be hysterically funny if the current show morphs into "Sisterwives No More," featuring Meri, Janelle, and Christine.  No Kody, no Robyn. 

I'd watch it!

I probably wouldn't actually watch it, but you betcha my teevee would be on while it was broadcast, just out of spite.  😁

[Sasha888]

A show needs a villain - some kind of conflict. Some problems, some angst, if you will.

I know everyone hates K&R, but realistically, a show about 3 women in their 50's living normal lives would end up being titled "Yawn City".

These women aren't famous for any outstanding feature or talent they possess - their only claim to fame is that they were all married to the same man.

Look at the episode threads for this season. The vast majority of comments are how much everyone hates Kody, how nuts he is, etc.

While the majority of viewers don't like K&R, their delusions and wacko nonsense is what makes the OG 3 the heroes. Without something for them to fight against, they are about as interesting as watching paint dry.

Have you ever seen a reality show about normal people living normal lives? I haven't.

[Orcinus orca]

4 minutes ago, Sasha888 said:

I know everyone hates K&R, but realistically, a show about 3 women in their 50's living normal lives would end up being titled "Yawn City".

It's already Yawn City and none of the leftover wives are the least bit interesting to me.  Grocery shopping, visiting the grandkids, gardening, selling MLM crap - who cares? I can watch my neighbors do that.

[ginger90]

1 hour ago, AZChristian said:

We used to opine that it made no sense that Meri would get a full share of the same amount as Christine and Janelle, who had five more kids each. 

I’ve never thought of it that way. They were all on the show, so to me the pay should have been split 5 ways. It may have even been deposited in 5 checks, I have no idea.

It’s a similar story to Meri buying a house of the same size as the others in Vegas. No one was going to be able to stick a smaller house on any of those properties.

[Sasha888]

1 minute ago, ginger90 said:

They were all on the show, so to me the pay should have been split 5 ways.

Me too. Equal work, equal pay, once their jobs became being on a TV show.

I remember lots of discussions about how the money may have been split up back in the days before the show...because back then, they were really scrambling for money. At that time, I thought if Meri took an equal share while having only one child to feed and clothe, that was unfair (IF she did that...I don't think we really even know). And, I might add, if she did take more than her fair share, yes that's partly on her, but who was letting her? It's Kody's fault too, if it happened.

However, once the show came along, my opinion changed because now everyone has enough. No one is going without, no child is having lower quality food or going without new clothes.

Maybe that's not fair of me, but for me there's a difference between everyone struggling together, and everyone living the high life.

I also think this is a big part of the family splitting apart - back in the day, they needed each other. They couldn't just go off to their own mansions and ignore each other. They HAD to work it out.

[Elizzikra]

51 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

I’ve never thought of it that way. They were all on the show, so to me the pay should have been split 5 ways. It may have even been deposited in 5 checks, I have no idea.

It’s a similar story to Meri buying a house of the same size as the others in Vegas. No one was going to be able to stick a smaller house on any of those properties.

I thought that it made sense for all the wives to have comparable houses (particularly when they built on the cul-de-sac, but I thought other items should have been budgeted per capita (for example, grocery funds). 

[Denize]

All 5 could have gotten 1/5th from TLC, but since he didn't have a house, Kootie's share should have paid for his kids's needs while the wives paid the mortgage & utilities to run the houses and their personal expenses.

[65mickey]

Didn't Janelle address this on the last episode?  She said when it came to the division of the money from TLC she, Christine and Meri got their share to run their households but Robyn got hers and Kody's because he was with her at least since the pandemic.

[ginger90]

23 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

Didn't Janelle address this on the last episode?  She said when it came to the division of the money from TLC she, Christine and Meri got their share to run their households but Robyn got hers and Kody's because he was with her at least since the pandemic.

They’ve been a dual income family for quite some time.

 

 

[LilyD]

Iirc the criticism wasn’t about Meri’s LV house per se. It was about Meri’s overspending on the house and wanting an extra feature which was only possible if she took an extra addition. (Was it the pantry and wet bar?) 

I also remember a general feeling of unfairness about the allocated weekly household budget, where Meri received exactly the same as Janelle and Christine who each had so many more mouths to feed. 

[LotusFlower]

2 hours ago, LilyD said:

Iirc the criticism wasn’t about Meri’s LV house per se. It was about Meri’s overspending on the house and wanting an extra feature which was only possible if she took an extra addition. (Was it the pantry and wet bar?)

She wanted a wet bar and French doors.  She whined and complained about it ad nauseam. 

[altopower]

16 minutes ago, LotusFlower said:

She wanted a wet bar and French doors.  She whined and complained about it ad nauseam. 

And also that she NEEDS the same size house because she WANTED lots more children and it wasn't as though she didn't try to have more, so she shouldn't be penalized. Or words to that effect. I mostly just remember the Wet Bar of Tears.

[Absolom]

8 hours ago, AZChristian said:

I believe it was originally thought (no proof that I know of) that the money was paid into the LLC and then distributed equally five ways - each wife and Kody.  We used to opine that it made no sense that Meri would get a full share of the same amount as Christine and Janelle, who had five more kids each.  And, of course, Kody had no house payments or anything else to pay for except perms and botox.

One more round: Kody said publicly way early on that the TLC money was split six ways.  Each of the five original adults got 1/6 and the remaining 1/6 went into a "pot" for special events/emergencies, etc like weddings and college.  I'm not sure how well that sixth share held up and it seemed like it was at Kody's discretion so I'm pretty sure it was allocated to Robyn's or his needs or wants quite frequently until by COVID, those two were taking half for the two of them (3 of the 1/6 portions).

[Absolom]

I could not live in that house K&R just bought.  It's the ceilings and not the paint color but all the odd angles.  The kitchenette stuck under the stairs was ludicrous to me.  There's plenty of room to do it without making an eyesore. They should just rent warehouse space given it's mainly needed to hold their junk collection.  

[Gramto6]

14 minutes ago, Absolom said:

I could not live in that house K&R just bought.  It's the ceilings and not the paint color but all the odd angles.  The kitchenette stuck under the stairs was ludicrous to me.  There's plenty of room to do it without making an eyesore. They should just rent warehouse space given it's mainly needed to hold their junk collection.  

Not my choice either.  It feels like a giant cavern.  I can only imagine how dark it will be with the precious "artwork" up all over. You just know every space is going to be covered with giant paintings!

[ChristmasJones]

Any speculation on what it costs to live in the home they bought? In terms of yearly property taxes and utilities?  I'll leave upkeep/repairs off the list because it appears they don't do that. 

[Joan of Argh]

If the SADCRAB gang ever need money I wouldn’t be surprised to see them publish a Tell All book, with themselves as the victims and the OG3 and kids as monsters who made their life hell.

As far as where Truely will stay if she visits… the listing mentions a tree fort. 🙄

[Ms.Lulu]

6 hours ago, ChristmasJones said:

Any speculation on what it costs to live in the home they bought? In terms of yearly property taxes and utilities?  I'll leave upkeep/repairs off the list because it appears they don't do that. 

Property taxes were $8800 in 2023, not high at all for a $2.1MM house.

[ginger90]

I know most have seen the listing, but the price history is interesting to me.

[LilyD]

11 hours ago, LotusFlower said:

She wanted a wet bar and French doors.  She whined and complained about it ad nauseam. 

Yes but she could only have them when combined with an extension of sorts. And that’s what made it even more expensive

[ginger90]

All of the houses basically had the same square footage. She could not have a smaller house on that property. They each had a “budget”, she went over and paid the difference which wasn’t very much in comparison to the cost of building.

 

Meri’s storylines were always overblown. How long did the catfish go on for? It’s still talked about on the show.

Edited October 31, 2024 by ginger90

[laurakaye]

8 hours ago, Joan of Argh said:

As far as where Truely will stay if she visits… the listing mentions a tree fort. 🙄

There's a 2200 sq. foot guest house!  Oh, wait - that's probably where they're housing Day'un. Or maybe that's where Robyn plans to display all 7,000 of her Dickens Village accessories.  It should fit okay in there.  Might be a little tight.

[mythoughtis]

Meri’s space in the Lehi house  was often the gathering place. She assumed it would be the same way in Vegas -hence the wet bar.  However I think they ended up outside a lot and then Robyn’s house became the gathering place until they stopped letting people inside. 

What bothered me more was Meri’s insistence that her one child be granted the same budget as all six of Janelle’s or Christine’s.   For example, Leon went to a private college in Utah.  Logan, Aspen, MyKelti, Gabe, Gwen went to a state school in Nevada.  Maddie went to a state school in Utah. Hunter, Paedon, Garrison went to the military  etc 

 

Edited October 31, 2024 by mythoughtis

[Granny58]

On 10/30/2024 at 10:52 AM, General Days said:

DABSARK was created in May of 2022.

SADKRAB is a much better name tho.  LOL.

[Granny58]

I freely admit I'm not savvy about financial finagling, and perhaps this has been addressed, but has Coyote Pass been paid off?  If so, have the OG3 received their portions?  If that's all cleared up, can the proceeds have been used to purchase the new mansion?