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[ginger90]

Clip:

[GeeGolly]

I think we've seen the entire episode in teasers.

[Celia Rubenstein]

Wait a minute.

In that clip Kody says "Robyn and I gave (Christine) her downpayment for that house."

What exactly does that mean?  Are he and Robyn a separate financial entity, with their own private pile of money that is "theirs" and no one else's?  Does he have a similar private fund with Janelle or Meri?   The hell? 

[mythoughtis]

32 minutes ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

Wait a minute.

In that clip Kody says "Robyn and I gave (Christine) her downpayment for that house."

What exactly does that mean?  Are he and Robyn a separate financial entity, with their own private pile of money that is "theirs" and no one else's?  Does he have a similar private fund with Janelle or Meri?   The hell? 

Most likely they got their money back after Christine sold her house in Vegas.   

[lindalouwho]

Logan got married on the 22 of this month. Look closely at the pictures that have been posted.  Sitting next to Janelle (who looked amazing, by the way) at the ceremony is Gabe.  Nelly and Noodles are sitting across the aisle, behind the bridesmaids.  Things that make you go hmmm….

and, in the photo Janelle titled, “my kids,” Noodles is nowhere to be seen.  Hmmm….

[Kellyee]

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Logan got married on the 22 of this month. Look closely at the pictures that have been posted.  Sitting next to Janelle (who looked amazing, by the way) at the ceremony is Gabe.  Nelly and Noodles are sitting across the aisle, behind the bridesmaids.  Things that make you go hmmm….

and, in the photo Janelle titled, “my kids,” Noodles is nowhere to be seen.  Hmmm….

If Kody and Janelle didn't even sit together at their son's wedding, then we are being fed bullshit that they're still married in any way, shape, or form. They're faking it (badly) to keep the show going, because the notoriety from the show feeds their other businesses (Cameo, Plexus, Lularoe, and probably even Kody's gun selling business). Without the show, they are just regular idiots making next to nothing off MLMs and side hustles. I'm glad most of their kids seem to have gotten regular jobs and/or are seeking higher education.  Maddie and Mykelti need to wise up and realize the gravy train won't go on forever. 

[BAForever]

Still struggle with some transgender terminology and pronouns, but am trying. Live in the reddest of states and have never known anyone who was transgender (at least to my knowledge).  Question- I understand that Leon uses they and them as pronouns. Does Meri just refer to Leon as her "child"? (obviously daughter is not correct). Same with kids. When my sisters visit, I introduce them as my sisters. Would Logan just say "my sibling Leo"?

Haven't seen wedding pictures. Will eagle eye seating arrangements. 

[Auntie Freeze]

I like to hope that Janelle is in SLC next door to Christine. Or could Christine's house be split in two so Janelle is her basement wife? If they did that, we could ditch the other 3 and it could still be called Sister Wives.

Kody would combust.

[LilyD]

6 hours ago, Kellyee said:

If Kody and Janelle didn't even sit together at their son's wedding, then we are being fed bullshit that they're still married in any way, shape, or form. They're faking it (badly) to keep the show going, because the notoriety from the show feeds their other businesses (Cameo, Plexus, Lularoe, and probably even Kody's gun selling business). Without the show, they are just regular idiots making next to nothing off MLMs and side hustles. I'm glad most of their kids seem to have gotten regular jobs and/or are seeking higher education.  Maddie and Mykelti need to wise up and realize the gravy train won't go on forever. 

Wow, this is absolutely ridiculous! Come on, as parents of the groom you should be united for once. Gosh, even my parents were able to do that and heavens know how much they detested each other.  If they were still together as a polygamous family, Kody would have sat next to Janelle.  I have to agree with you here that there can't possibly be any form of relationship or pretend marriage between Janelle and Kody anymore.

[laurakaye]

I can see both sides of Kody and Janelle sitting together for Logan's wedding...on one hand, they absolutely should've been able to set aside whatever crap is going on in their sham of a marriage, sit together, and marvel at what a wonderful son they have.  On the other hand, Janelle might have wanted to actually enjoy herself and not worry about Kody making everything all about him, so seating him in the back forty with his crabby wife ensured that Janelle wouldn't have to spend the entire evening with one eye on Kody.

It's also possible that Kody told Janelle that he wouldn't sit with her unless Robyn could sit with them too and Janelle called his bluff, told him to take a flying leap into Poop Pond, and made sure his assigned table was in the dark corner near the restrooms.

[Elodia]

7 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

On the other hand, Janelle might have wanted to actually enjoy herself and not worry about Kody making everything all about him,

This is possible... But if she wanted to enjoy herself, why was she sitting next to Meri? 🤔😏

[Irate Panda]

I think it could also be Gabe appears to be sitting next to Janelle and Janelle is finally at the point where she’s choosing her kids (AND DOGS) over Kody or Kody got his bikini briefs twisted and didn’t want to sit near Gabe.

[GeeGolly]

It was Logan and Michelle's wedding. They seem fairly drama free, so I'm sure they considered everyone's feelings, including their own. I'm going to withhold judgement to if or when we see more pics.

[monagatuna]

7 hours ago, BAForever said:

Still struggle with some transgender terminology and pronouns, but am trying. Live in the reddest of states and have never known anyone who was transgender (at least to my knowledge).  Question- I understand that Leon uses they and them as pronouns. Does Meri just refer to Leon as her "child"? (obviously daughter is not correct). Same with kids. When my sisters visit, I introduce them as my sisters. Would Logan just say "my sibling Leo"?

It varies by the individual, but I think you have the right idea. The best thing to do would be to ask the person, but when you're talking about a situation where you don't know that person's identity for sure, it's probably best to go neutral until corrected. And given what we know publicly about Leon, I think you have it right.

And IME people tend to be very gracious when you make mistakes, as long as you're making a genuine good-faith effort to respect their identity. I am not trans, but I have a number of friends and family members who are, so while I can't speak for trans people, this has been my experience as a cis ally.

[toodywoody]

Can someone post a link to the pictures?

[ginger90]

2 hours ago, toodywoody said:

Can someone post a link to the pictures?

Do you mean pictures from Logan and Michelle’s wedding? If so, most are in the threads kids of Kody brown, Janelle’s, and Christine’s. There is no link to all of them that I’m aware of.

Edited October 24, 2022 by ginger90

[Irate Panda]

Seating Order if it hasn’t been posted yet

First row on groom’s side: Janelle, Gabe, Meri, Audrey, Leon, Gwen, Gwen’s Girlfriend, Truely

Second row on groom’s side: Christine (directly behind Janelle), Ysabel (directly behind Gabe), 3 empty seats, Savannah (directly behind Gwen) *I think Maddie might have been one of the empty seats

First row on bride’s side: Michelle’s family

Second row on bride’s side: Kody, Robyn, Breanna, Aurora, Robyn’s mom, Aspyn, Mitch, Paedon

Hunter: Best Man

Garrison: Flower/Beer Guy

* No idea where Day’un was

Edited October 24, 2022 by Irate Panda

[65mickey]

I guess that there were too many Browns to fit on the grooms side. I have never heard of the grooms father, and siblings sitting on the bride's side.

[Elizzikra]

3 hours ago, 65mickey said:

I guess that there were too many Browns to fit on the grooms side. I have never heard of the grooms father, and siblings sitting on the bride's side.

We didn't have "sides" at our wedding - we reserved a couple rows for family generically (and one particular seat for the surviving one of our four parents) and everyone else sat wherever. I'm guessing this wedding seating had a little more structure but they might not have gone with traditional bride and groom sides, especially with the groom's side of the family being so enormous.

[lindalouwho]

Pictures of Logan’s wedding

https://soapdirt.com/kody-brown-at-logan-brown-wedding-sister-wives/

[Elodia]

14 hours ago, Irate Panda said:

Garrison: Flower/Beer Guy

He posted a little clip on IG where he called himself a beer fairy. I had no idea there's beer fairies, but I love it! Wish we had  those in Germany too 😂😂😂

[Jeanne222]

Kody has one foot out in the aisle like he’s ready to make a run for it!

I’m guessing not being asked to officiate at the wedding really burned his bum!

Just sitting there and not having it be all about him had to be a tough pill to swallow!

[Libby]

17 hours ago, 65mickey said:

I guess that there were too many Browns to fit on the grooms side. I have never heard of the grooms father, and siblings sitting on the bride's side.

Yes, it seems to me that the first two rows on both sides were for immediate family. The Brown's needed three rows to accommodate them all and the bride's family only needed one.

I assume that the three empty seats next to Ysabel were for Maddie, Hunter's girlfriend, and Garrison after he was finished with beer fairy duties.

I don't know if Kody not sitting next to Janelle means that they are split. Sitting with Kody probably didn't matter to Janelle. I think she's over him whether they are officially broken up or not.

It seems as though Gabe was Janelle's escort. A definite step up from Kody.

Edited October 25, 2022 by Libby

[Elizzikra]

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I’m guessing not being asked to officiate at the wedding really burned his bum!

Just sitting there and not having it be all about him had to be a tough pill to swallow!

Plus isn't Kody anti-alcohol? So a Flower Boy/Beer Fairy probably really pissed him off.

[Elodia]

2 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

Plus isn't Kody anti-alcohol? So a Flower Boy/Beer Fairy probably really pissed him off.

That would be the icing on the cake, wouldn't it? But I'm sure he drinks alcohol now. I read somewhere he and Sobyn were seen in a Flagstaff bar, drinking champagne. Maybe they need alcohol to put up with each other... 

[Spisee Hotsos]

On 10/25/2022 at 8:33 AM, Jeanne222 said:

Kody has one foot out in the aisle like he’s ready to make a run for it!

I’m guessing not being asked to officiate at the wedding really burned his bum!

Just sitting there and not having it be all about him had to be a tough pill to swallow!

I thought the same thing, there he is, manspreading into the aisle, trying to assert his dominance over a situation where he has absolutely no power, control or starring role. 

[deirdra]

3 hours ago, Thistle Howl said:

I thought the same thing, there he is, manspreading into the aisle, trying to assert his dominance over a situation where he has absolutely no power, control or starring role. 

and probably PO'd that the bride's family was sitting in front of him in the front row on the bride's side of the aisle

[laurakaye]

On 10/25/2022 at 10:24 AM, Elodia said:

He posted a little clip on IG where he called himself a beer fairy. I had no idea there's beer fairies, but I love it! Wish we had  those in Germany too 😂😂😂

My daughter got married in August and they too had a flower guy/beer fairy.  It was a very low-key outdoor wedding, maybe that's the trend now.  I can see where Logan and Michelle would go for that kind of vibe.

18 hours ago, Thistle Howl said:

I thought the same thing, there he is, manspreading into the aisle, trying to assert his dominance over a situation where he has absolutely no power, control or starring role. 

Body language says a lot.  I thought the same thing - if he couldn't be in the front row, he was darn sure going to manspread to make sure he took up as much room as possible in an attempt to get noticed.  I really hope we find out in the next season (or the season after that, if this train wreck keeps a' chugging along) why the father of the groom chose to not sit with his son's mother.  I realize Kody "can't be away from Robyn the family" but does that really extend to him sitting 30 feet away from them?  And while I am not sure that Robyn actually has feelings, wouldn't she feel like an idiot forcing Kody to sit with her instead of Janelle?

I think Kody chose those seats himself because he demanded that Robyn be allowed to sit in the front row next to him and Janelle, and Logan shot that down.

[altopower]

3 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

I really hope we find out in the next season (or the season after that, if this train wreck keeps a' chugging along) why the father of the groom chose to not sit with his son's mother. 

My guess is that it wasn't Kody's choice (which would have annoyed him no end) but one made by Logan and Michelle. Not many brides/grooms have a family the size of Logan's and there had to be some structure on how they would all sit. Michelle's family was seriously outnumbered.

[taragel]

There's a new clip that I thought was interesting of Meri and Robyn talking about how "familiar" it is that Christine and Kody's relationship is done and Meri saying she "found peace" with the idea of staying and Robyn entreating Meri to stay with her because they have to "rebuild"...which... more wives? And then Robyn crying about how "they're" destroying what she wanted and she had other choices but chose this. Uh... what other choices? Was she seeing other people while she was seeing Kody? And how selfish can you be to see not one but two of your "sisters" suffering and in such pain and then expect them to stay in a harmful situation so they don't rain on YOUR parade. Geesh.

https://www.etonline.com/sister-wives-robyn-and-meri-share-how-they-really-feel-about-christine-leaving-kody-exclusive

(Sorry I don't know how to embed this one.) 

Edited October 27, 2022 by taragel

[Libby]

I think that Janelle and her kids probably made the decision that Gabe would be his mother's escort at the wedding.

Hunter was best man, Garrison was beer fairy, and Gabe was Janelle's escort. I'm sure that they all realized that Kody could let them down at the last minute. It was smarter to not include him in the plan from the beginning.

Kody has been so removed from them that they are starting to make moves as though he no longer is a member of Janelle's clan. He can't expect them to treat him as an important member of their family when he has repeatedly shown that they can't depend on him for anything.

Even though an official split announcement hasn't been made, I think that Janelle and her kids have moved on from Kody.

Edited October 27, 2022 by Libby

[altopower]

41 minutes ago, taragel said:

There's a new clip that I thought was interesting of Meri and Robyn talking about how "familiar" it is that Christine and Kody's relationship is done and Meri saying she "found peace" with the idea of staying and Robyn entreating Meri to stay with her because they have to "rebuild"...which... more wives? And then Robyn crying about how "they're" destroying what she wanted and she had other choices but chose this.

I know, this was so weird. 

[GeeGolly]

I heard/read more than once, Robyn saying the Brown family wasn't her only choice. WTF difference does that make?? She chose Kody. No one, including Kody, is obligated to fulfill whatever fantasy Robyn had about this marriage. She is really ridiculous.

[SongbirdHollow]

Maddie did a post on the Brown’s plexus IG and actually wrote HARMONES for hormones. Is she trolling us? Lol

[xwordfanatik]

7 minutes ago, SongbirdHollow said:

Maddie did a post on the Brown’s plexus IG and actually wrote HARMONES for hormones. Is she trolling us? Lol

Maddie's been known to misspell quite a bit.  That would be amusing if she was poking fun at Kootie like we all do!

[ginger90]

There’s a clip in the article:

https://people.com/tv/sister-wives-christine-brown-kody-brown-bicker-as-she-packs-up-house-post-split/

[laurakaye]

Have we seen one single social media picture from anyone in the Brown family of the wedding with Kody in it?

[zamp33]

8 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

Have we seen one single social media picture from anyone in the Brown family of the wedding with Kody in it?

Kody was sitting in the second row behind the bride's family with Robyn. So he was at the weeding. 

[Absolom]

Yes, he was there.  

I didn't mean to hit post as zamp and I had been typing at the same time.  

I love typos.  Kody perhaps should have been weeded.

Edited October 27, 2022 by Absolom

[Ms.Lulu]

It is interesting that Kody was there, he loves to be the center of attention, but not a photo of him posing with his family can be found.

It must be eating him up that:

1) It was not filmed for the show

2) He did not perform the wedding

3) He wasn't in the front row

4) None of his kids (with public social) posted a single image of him posing with his family

Kody will probably try to marry off Aurora this spring so that he can be the center of another wedding!

[Celia Rubenstein]

Now he wants to split everything 50-50?  No.  No, he doesn't.  What he wants is half the money from the sale of the house because he couldn't manipulate Christine into giving him ALL the money from the sale of the house.  And on that note, what exactly is HE bringing to the table to split 50-50?  He doesn't even have a corner, he claims.  I guess all the rooms in Robyn's house are round. 

I like how he is making it out to be Christine's fault that Janelle won't be able to build on Coyote Pass because she is keeping the money from the house for herself.  Erhm, Kody ... maybe you could liquidate Robyn's palace and pay off Coyote Pass.  I'm sure her house is worth a lot more than Christine's house is worth.  You could pay off the land and get at least a start on building.  Kick her grown kids out like you tried to make Janelle do to her boys and you, the Swamp Witch, and the Bobsey Twins rent a townhouse and make do.  

Yeah, not gonna happen. 

[Teafortwo]

22 minutes ago, Celia Rubenstein said:

Erhm, Kody ... maybe you could liquidate Robyn's palace and pay off Coyote Pass.  I'm sure her house is worth a lot more than Christine's house is worth.  You could pay off the land and get at least a start on building.  Kick her grown kids out like you tried to make Janelle do to her boys and you, the Swamp Witch, and the Bobsey Twins rent a townhouse and make do.  

Yeah, not gonna happen. 

This is logical (if they want to start building). Ergo, not gonna happen, as you astutely point out!

[laurakaye]

16 hours ago, Ms.Lulu said:

It is interesting that Kody was there, he loves to be the center of attention, but not a photo of him posing with his family can be found.

It must be eating him up that:

4) None of his kids (with public social) posted a single image of him posing with his family

Kody will probably try to marry off Aurora this spring so that he can be the center of another wedding!

Sorry, I should have been more clear - this is what I meant when I asked if there were any pictures of Kody from the wedding - nothing with him posing with the bride and groom, or with Janelle, or of him with any of his kids.  I find that super interesting - other than the picture of him sitting with Robyn, no one has posted anything with Kody.  It's like he was there, but he wasn't there.  And I agree, he must've been a joy to be around that day, knowing that he couldn't perform for any cameras.  

Also knowing how he loves to make a fool of himself on the dance floor, I wonder if he was actually cognizant enough to understand that his shenanigans were not going to be welcome at Logan's wedding?  I'd like to think he spent the reception at a table in the corner, with a miserable Robyn and their whiny kids, ticked off that everyone was having a great time without him.

Edited October 28, 2022 by laurakaye

[Cara]

On 10/24/2022 at 8:03 AM, BAForever said:

Still struggle with some transgender terminology and pronouns, but am trying. 

I’m glad I’m not the only who is still struggling. It’s hard to get used to they and them referring to only  one person. But I’m getting there.

[Roslyn]

5 hours ago, laurakaye said:

Sorry, I should have been more clear - this is what I meant when I asked if there were any pictures of Kody from the wedding - nothing with him posing with the bride and groom, or with Janelle, or of him with any of his kids.  I find that super interesting - other than the picture of him sitting with Robyn, no one has posted anything with Kody.  It's like he was there, but he wasn't there.  And I agree, he must've been a joy to be around that day, knowing that he couldn't perform for any cameras.  

Also knowing how he loves to make a fool of himself on the dance floor, I wonder if he was actually cognizant enough to understand that his shenanigans were not going to be welcome at Logan's wedding?  I'd like to think he spent the reception at a table in the corner, with a miserable Robyn and their whiny kids, ticked off that everyone was having a great time without him.

I would not be surprised if leaving Kody photos off social media is on purpose. If he is in a photo then the comments are sure to get nasty and veer away from the happy occasion.  Either they all chose to leave Kody and Robyn photos offline OR he has specifically asked them to not post any photos of him and Robyn and her kids.

[toodywoody]

22 hours ago, ginger90 said:

There’s a clip in the article:

https://people.com/tv/sister-wives-christine-brown-kody-brown-bicker-as-she-packs-up-house-post-split/

He is such an ass. Telling her she's running away. No she tried for years and he was too busy with his head square up Robyn's ass. Then for Meri to make it all about her. Then Robyn to make it all about her. Then him jumping down Jenelles throat. First off if you want to work on your marriage to Jenelle, go work on it alone. You shouldn't have Robyn or Meri there. Then telling her that her walking away is a huge mistake. Fuck off.

His hair, I swear. Just cut it off, he looks fucking ridiculous. 

Then him saying I'm too busy. It's been my thought for a long time when anyone says they are busy, they aren't. I've worked with a bunch of people that say that but they still have time to stand around and do nothing. Same goes for people saying they are a great parent, normal people don't walk around tooting their own horn about how great they are at anything.

[the-grey-lady]

5 hours ago, toodywoody said:

He is such an ass. Telling her she's running away.

She's also allowed to run away from a negative, toxic situation, especially one that shows no sign of improving.

In fact, I encourage it. Run like your ass is on fire, Christine.

ETA: no snark intended towards @toodywoody. I agree that Kody suggested she was running away in a condescending manner and he has taken no responsibility for...anything.

Edited October 28, 2022 by the-grey-lady

[Tuxcat]

1 hour ago, Roslyn said:

I would not be surprised if leaving Kody photos off social media is on purpose. If he is in a photo then the comments are sure to get nasty and veer away from the happy occasion.  Either they all chose to leave Kody and Robyn photos offline OR he has specifically asked them to not post any photos of him and Robyn and her kids.

I absolutely think this is the reason. The show is interesting because Kody knows he's portrayed as the villain - gets seemingly very angry about that - which makes him all the more the villain. Meanwhile they profit from the villain dynamic because it creates drama/interest. (yes - in real life he's problematic too - I'm just looking at this from a PR perspective). But, on social media he doesn't need his kids, friends and family to see the hate that will spew forth on every post he appears in.

Can someone explain the house thing to me? They all own a piece of CP property. Christine additionally owned her house. Robyn does too? But Meri and Janelle do not have house ownership from the family resources? (Meri has the BB but that was separate). How did Christine end up with more assets than Janelle?

[mythoughtis]

On 10/27/2022 at 10:47 AM, taragel said:

There's a new clip that I thought was interesting of Meri and Robyn talking about how "familiar" it is that Christine and Kody's relationship is done and Meri saying she "found peace" with the idea of staying and Robyn entreating Meri to stay with her because they have to "rebuild"...which... more wives? And then Robyn crying about how "they're" destroying what she wanted and she had other choices but chose this. Uh... what other choices? Was she seeing other people while she was seeing Kody? And how selfish can you be to see not one but two of your "sisters" suffering and in such pain and then expect them to stay in a harmful situation so they don't rain on YOUR parade. Geesh.

https://www.etonline.com/sister-wives-robyn-and-meri-share-how-they-really-feel-about-christine-leaving-kody-exclusive

(Sorry I don't know how to embed this one.) 

It doesn’t matter what Robyn wanted.  The 3 wives and 13 kids were there long before she arrived.  The majority of the family was already there. She doesn’t get to decide whether the three wives or  their kids  stay or leave.  She only gets to decide for herself  and her minor children.   
In addition, Meri is no longer a sister wife.  She’s a friend who is allowed to participate in filming and zoom calls as if she was still a sister wife.  Kody no longer refers to Meri and him as being married.  Even though he has said in the past only the wives can dissolve the marriage 

Edited October 29, 2022 by mythoughtis

[mythoughtis]

On 10/27/2022 at 2:13 PM, ginger90 said:

There’s a clip in the article:

https://people.com/tv/sister-wives-christine-brown-kody-brown-bicker-as-she-packs-up-house-post-split/

Christine is so logical this season.  She’s come a long way from being afraid of a toaster and thinking Christians are ‘sharks’. 
 

I love her thoughts of she should get 50% of everything Kody  owns with everyone if he gets 50% of the stuff in her name only.   Probably wouldn’t happen because of how the deed reads on ‘Robyn’s house’. 

Kody talks about why the wives own the property and it was because the wives would lose the house otherwise if the husband went to jail.  Well, Kody, the reason the wives got to keep the house in that event was because the wives legally owned the property, not the husband.  Christine legally owns the house, not you.  It works the same  whether you go to jail or she ‘divorces’  you. Technically she could have  kept her interest in Coyote Pass and made you buy her out. 
It is not Christine’s fault that Meri and Janelle  chose to rent instead of buy, resulting in them being ‘asset-free’.  It’s not her fault that Janelle either needs to rent something else or live in an RV on the property.