S14.E15: Reunion Part 1

[PrincessPurrsALot]

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The ladies come face to face to discuss the dynamic season. Ubah accuses Jenna of being inauthentic. Erin and Sai get to the root of their ongoing squabbles. Brynn expresses her fears about motherhood. Jessel takes the women to task for speculating about her marriage. Jenna opens up about her family and upbringing.

Original air date 2023.10.22 

[Steph J]

Erin is "tough as nails"?

 

Erin is a rich girl who talks tough because she's accustomed to being around people who won't challenge her. The second someone stands up to her, she collapses. She wouldn't last a second head to head with a housewives MVP.

[Stats Queen]

So Ubah coming after Jenn up front was surprising.

I’ve seen other comments on social media about Jenna being a high powered CEO but seemed awkward on this show,

Many people are very different at work than they are in their personal lives. For some of us, there will always be a dichotomy based upon our work job/role. Maybe because I am older than Jenna, my serious self-confident work self was far different then my just being me and my insecure awkward self when it came to interpersonal relationships.

[Pi237]

Ubah starts by saying I love all these girls. Thats Housewives talk for, “I’m going to throw you All under the bus!”

a fight about cheese? Seriously 

[Pi237]

I’m not into this touchy feely section.

Does anyone really believe Sai has trouble expressing her feelings? 

I loved Erin’s WTF? face when Sai said she uses humor to mask her true feelings. 

[Stats Queen]

Erin actually thinks she feeds people? My husband’s (who is Jewish) late grandmother would be appalled at her concept of “food”

[Steph J]

Ubah betting $1,000 that Erin was the one who told Brynn that Sai called her a slut.

The way I cackled. It was very hag-like.

8 minutes ago, Stats Queen said:

Erin actually thinks she feeds people? My husband’s (who is Jewish) late grandmother would be appalled at her concept of “food”

Erin also thinks she's funny and denies having done/said things that we literally saw happen on camera. I think it's safe to say that her capacity for self-assessment is low.

[Pi237]

So tired of, “I’m ‘fill in nationality ’ we like to eat!”  Everyone does. Stop it. 
 

Also, obligatory-if a man said he slapped every one he dated, we wouldn’t all be giggling. 

[Keywestclubkid]

The fact they laughed that Ubah has physically assaulted every man she has dated is kinda messed up 

[Pi237]

Erin & Sai Absolutely implied Pavit was cheating in Vietnam.

18 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

The fact they laughed that Ubah has physically assaulted every man she has dated is kinda messed up 

It seemed like a nervous laugh at first. They were all waiting for someone to say, woah what!? Sai tried to pause her, give her a heads up that what she was saying wasn’t right. But then, that was it. Surprised Andy didn’t pursue that. Or maybe not surprised, it’s Andy.

[Keywestclubkid]

5 minutes ago, Pi237 said:

Erin & Sai Absolutely implied Pavit was cheating in Vietnam.

It seemed like a nervous laugh at first. They were all waiting for someone to say, woah what!? Sai tried to pause her, give her a heads up that what she was saying wasn’t right. But then, that was it. Surprised Andy didn’t pursue that. Or maybe not surprised, it’s Andy.

Literally if a man came on and said he slapped every woman he dated heads would explode.. it was just a super weird moment 

[snarts]

Ubah makes me uncomfortable because she's so quick to anger & is so inconsistent  I wasn't at all surprised to hear that she thinks it's ok to physically strike a partner. Her pre-reunion texts and continual side jabs are annoying so i was glad to see everyone pretty much ignore her.

If you bring up the (lack of) sex in your marriage, don't be surprised if people speculate on the cause. Similarly, if you talk about swinging, people may actually think you're a swinger. Finally, if you talk non-stop about sex, rich old men and shamelessly flirt with EVERYONE, someone is bound to think you may be a gold digging slut. 

[Stats Queen]

I think a huge difference between this cast (except Jenna) is that the current cast grew up on social media and “likes” versus the original cast grew up before social media was a dominating force in their lives. Erin, Sai and Ubah and Brynn to an extent, do not seem to a have a personal sense of identity outside of their social media world.

[PrincessPurrsALot]

Jessel:  There's so much focus on cheese.  

Me:  Thank you!  How was that such a big issue for this season?

Andy is always terrible but he was particularly incompetent on this show.  Whenever anything happened even slightly off script, he completely fumbled as a host. 

So many tears at this reunion.  Did this cast ever have any fun this season?  Are they capable of having fun?   

[TattleTeeny]

Please help, I give up — I’ve Googled and I can’t figure out what the fuck does “Kerin” mean?!

[dancingdreamer]

I used the FF at the start, because  they were rehashing and crying  about their mothers.  I don't  know why Ubah went for Jenna, but out of all the cast, she's really  thirsty for another season.  Unpopular  opinion, but I like Erin, she's  a bit prickly,  she's  not a lovey dovey person, and I don't  mind that. They need to do a recast, as I have mentioned  before. 

[Steph J]

35 minutes ago, TattleTeeny said:

Please help, I give up — I’ve Googled and I can’t figure out what the fuck does “Kerin” mean?!

It's an Erin specific spin on the pejorative term "Karen." Erin is a "Karen," which makes her Kerin.

Edited October 23, 2023 by Steph J

[hoodooznoodooz]

I did appreciate Andy asking Sai, “And how do you think the ‘jokes’ are landing with the others?”

[hoodooznoodooz]

I hate when Brynn laughs with her mouth open and her tongue almost hanging out.

[hoodooznoodooz]

Sai becomes furious for truly meaningless reasons.

[weaver]

I couldn't get through it but was what  Andy said true about how successful the show is?  I won't be watching another season.  I found this on "We Got this Covered."  This would describe a massive flop I would think.  

The remaining installments (episodes three, four, and five) are among the season’s lowest-rated, each drawing in around 475,000 live views or less. Episode five’s haul of 439,000 was not only the season’s worst-performing but also the lowest-rated episode in RHONY‘s 15-year run.

Edited October 23, 2023 by weaver

[Chatty Cake]

I fell asleep just over halfway. I need to remember if the season sucks, the reunion is going to suck as well. I’m shocked that Andy told them they did great. 

[janiema]

I don’t think I have ever seen a worse dress than the one Brynn was wearing. 

[MsMalin]

^ that dress made her look like a linebacker. What an odd choice.

Is Jenna braless in a sheer top? 

[hoodooznoodooz]

Trauma affects individuals many different ways. Some become extremely compassionate, because they understand the pain and only hope to comfort and alleviate that suffering in others. Some believe it justifies why they attack anyone who triggers memories of their own trauma.

[SweetieDarling]

Was Erin feeling left out? She just had to get in her troubled childhood trauma story too. This show has turned into a competition on who had the worst upbringing. Get over yourselves! Be proud of who you are today rather than dwelling on your painful past. UGH, these women

[TattleTeeny]

6 hours ago, Steph J said:

It's an Erin specific spin on the pejorative term "Karen." Erin is a "Karen," which makes her Kerin.

That is…

so dumb. Trombone “fail” noise for Ubah.

[CrinkleCutCat]

They really don’t like each other do they?!

[EtheltoTillie]

2 hours ago, janiema said:

I don’t think I have ever seen a worse dress than the one Brynn was wearing. 

Brynn's outfit looked like a take on a French maid costume. 

[mytmo]

The "momma didn't love me" episode.

[kristen111]

6 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I hate when Brynn laughs with her mouth open and her tongue almost hanging out.

She thinks it’s sexy.

[kristen111]

Andy said this season was a success?  Where’s the proof?

Ive never seen soo much ass kissing like tonight.  Like they really love each other.

The worst reunion ever.

[TexasGal]

4 hours ago, MsMalin said:

 

Is Jenna braless in a sheer top? 

I think it would be bigger news at this point if Jenna wore a bra and a non-sheer top.

[ZettaK]

4 hours ago, weaver said:

I couldn't get through it but was Andy said true about how successful the show is?  I won't be watching another season.  I found this on "We Got this Covered."  This would describe a massive flop I would think.  

The remaining installments (episodes three, four, and five) are among the season’s lowest-rated, each drawing in around 475,000 live views or less. Episode five’s haul of 439,000 was not only the season’s worst-performing but also the lowest-rated episode in RHONY‘s 15-year run.

And it got lower ratings than this after the 5th episode!

I'm so tired of their crying that I want to see some good old fashioned HW fighting....

[kristen111]

12 minutes ago, ZettaK said:

And it got lower ratings than this after the 5th episode!

I'm so tired of their crying that I want to see some good old fashioned HW fighting....

Talking and crying about their Mothers was just too much.  Cheese too.  They all over did it with Jessel’s marriage.  Meanwhile, I think they have the best marriage.  I didn’t care for Sai’s husband butting in about everyone’s marriage.  He’s a real Yenta Washwoman and has too much to say.  Butt out of women’s business.  I don’t get why Andy doesn’t bring the others back.  They were GOLD and still could be.  I won’t be watching this group anymore.  They were horrible.

[Mindthinkr]

What a boring reunion. Thank goodness there’s only one more part to squeeze out of this cast. 

[bosawks]

3 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Brynn's outfit looked like a take on a French maid costume. 

I was thinking girls gone wild rumspringa.

[chick binewski]

6 hours ago, weaver said:

I couldn't get through it but was Andy said true about how successful the show is?  I won't be watching another season.  I found this on "We Got this Covered."  This would describe a massive flop I would think.  

The remaining installments (episodes three, four, and five) are among the season’s lowest-rated, each drawing in around 475,000 live views or less. Episode five’s haul of 439,000 was not only the season’s worst-performing but also the lowest-rated episode in RHONY‘s 15-year run.

Granted it's not the first time Andy has shamelessy lied to viewers but he was especially determined to sell this reboot as ICONIC! when it is clearly nothing of the sort. 

[chick binewski]

3 hours ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

They really don’t like each other do they?!

Something we have in common with them!

Orange County premiered 18 years ago. We know how this works and now almost two decades later we know the only reasons why anyone joins RH is to become famous and/or promote a business. Adopting the "we LOVE each other" narrative was ridiculous and made it look like they thought viewers were dumb.

Also, what nonsense reason was Erin giving regarding her fake vow renewal sponsorship? 'Rando companies just approached me to ask if their names could appear on my invitations!'. K. Because that always happens.  

[eclectcmoi]

Okay... unpopular opinion here... I didn't mind this season or the first part of the reunion.  I don't need to see them all screaming over each other and not being able to hear what's being said. Plus, with so so so much hate in the world right now, this fluff was easy watching before bed without giving me nightmares.  

Edited October 23, 2023 by eclectcmoi

[laprin]

7 hours ago, weaver said:

I couldn't get through it but was what  Andy said true about how successful the show is?  I won't be watching another season.  I found this on "We Got this Covered."  This would describe a massive flop I would think.  

The remaining installments (episodes three, four, and five) are among the season’s lowest-rated, each drawing in around 475,000 live views or less. Episode five’s haul of 439,000 was not only the season’s worst-performing but also the lowest-rated episode in RHONY‘s 15-year run.

That's why the cast even questioned Andy when he said they performed well. This season and cast was a flop. 

[chuckity]

6 hours ago, janiema said:

I don’t think I have ever seen a worse dress than the one Brynn was wearing. 

Very 1980s Jessica McClintok vibes. 

[njbchlover]

18 minutes ago, chuckity said:

Very 1980s Jessica McClintok vibes. 

Brynn's dress gave me a "sexy Wednesday Adams" Halloween costume vibe, mixed with French maid.

It was NOT a good look.  

Brynn is a dichotomy, in my opinion.  She's a blend between giving "little girl cutesy" and "sexy vixen" vibes, but neither of them really come across.  She just is too try-hard for my tastes.

Edited October 23, 2023 by njbchlover

[realityplease]

Best moment for me - when Erin pounced on Jessel's acknowledgment that Jessel's party was sponsored because Erin wanted to justify why Erin & Abe's anniversary party was sponsored - and Andy immediately pointed out that Jessel's was a business event and Erin's an anniversary (personal) party.  A different kettle of fish.

Erin strikes me as smug, self-satisfied, eye-rolling, in judgment of & placing herself above everyone else on the show.  Quick to say I'm sorry - but not really understanding where & when she's actually wrong.  (Like not serving guests enough food.) Pride goeth before the fall.

Edited October 23, 2023 by realityplease
wrong name

[TattleTeeny]

All they're doing with their Jessel hate is making me prefer Jessel. 

[Yours Truly]

I want to say that Jessel looked really good and very pretty. Wasn’t that fond of the dress tho. I also want to say that I’m happy Jessle is speaking to the mentioning of not having sex was in connection to postpartum. Erin and Sai were the ones that broke it off from the original sentiment  and turned it into some mysterious conundrum they couldn’t wrap their head around. But of course they needed it to be some sort of relevant riddle that needed figuring out so that they could continue to shit talk about Jessel. The deliberant confusion was their way of trying to make their constant talk around it justified and it was just all so forced. I hope Jessel is able to really take the conversation where it leaves off this episode.

It actually didn’t occur to me just how wicked their handling of it was until she pulled me back and reminded me that all of it stemmed from Jessel speaking on how her sex life is postpartum and THAT’S actually the important part to focus on. Here she is sharing with girlfriends how having the children has been and how its changed her life, adding that piece of information regarding sex and throughout the season it was used to sorta shame Jessel (and Pavit) for not having sex. I mean to be honest I think it’s so lame and ridiculous to think that sex is the end all and be all of any and everything.

Yes, sex is an important part of a relationship but the attitude towards it and how quickly people will laughing condemn the (GASP) concept of having to do without it for an extended period of times always comes across as HELLA ignorant to me. As well as childish and simpleminded. So a good marriage, friendship, connection, partnership and lifelong commitment has no real relevance if you’re not banging at least 3 times a week??? It’s just such a sad and pathetic stance to have on a lifelong commitment. That’s just ONE part of the bigger picture and people constantly put it out there that that’s the biggest factor we all need to focus on in order to be happy and not lose such an important part of your life. Sure, it needs to not be ignored but its such an ick factor when people matter of factly turn it into such a harrowing obligation. Sex is supposed to be something shared and enjoyed by both. Something that happens out of a mutual attraction and desire. It’s not supposed to be a time-stamped, clock-in clock-out moment of your day and some people treat it as such. As if there’s a quota to be reached. A checkbox to mark off. That’s what I got from Erin and Sai. It was so childish. Not to mention Abe chiming in about how often he “needs” it pretty much confirming that there’s most likely some times where she’s just expected to service him. That’s how I see it when one person sounds like they want it more frequently than their partner. I’m not a fan of that equation. Sorry not sorry.  But I mean, If ya'll both WANT TO constantly go at it like bunnies then hey, match  made in heaven but that's not usually the case.

If other things are going on, it’s very likely that it affections those natural romantic urges and I for one never like to have to “force” my responses or force my initiations. If it ain’t genuinely gravitating towards an intimate encounter than it just ain’t happening WHICH can absolutely be the case with postpartum. Understandably so.  To put it simply, I like to be in the mood or no sex for you.  Plain and simple. And with twin young toddlers running around? Yeah, no surprise the mood aint right. I hope Jessel really gets to flesh this out in the next part of the reunion.  

Edited October 23, 2023 by Yours Truly

[bosawks]

I hope Jessel maintains her easy, breezy attitude because it is driving Erin and Sai insane.

And Brynn’s “I can’t hear you all the way over there” gave me a glimmer of hope for the second season.

[JAYJAY1979]

Ubah..you need to look in a mirror before deciding to accuse someone of being different off camera va on camera.  You certainly mis represented yourself.  And Sai's husband shouldn't have asked her why she was single since her attitude and abusive tendencies would scare any decent guy.

The term Karen needs to be retired.

So I heard that both Brynn and Jessel don't live in NYC most of the time.  If true, maybe they should be downgraded.

[dancingdreamer]

6 hours ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

They really don’t like each other do they?!

No they don't. They don't  know each other either.

[Keywestclubkid]

I wonder if they will talk about the 3 ladies not wanting Jenna on the show