S12.E19: We Need to Talk About Kathy

[RoseAllDay]

2 minutes ago, psychoticstate said:

If Rinna is traumatized, maybe she now knows how Sutton and Denise feel/felt.  

Don’t forget Kim, who Rinna said was “near death,” and then when confronted with it, looked shocked and claimed amnesia. I don’t claim to have a clue about what happened, but I’m sure as hell not taking Rinna’s word for it.

[sistermagpie]

What really bugs me about a lot of the Erika stuff is with everyone claiming that it's about her "showing compassion" to these unfortunate souls, it makes it seem like it's not just about Erika having someone else's money in the form of earrings that don't belong to her! 

Garcelle looks great in that outfit.

LOL - love Rinna laying down how this is about how incredibly successful Kyle is and Kathy isn't. 

Edited September 22, 2022 by sistermagpie
LOL. Souls, not soles

[Straycat80]

Are we suppose to feel sorry for Erika after that narrative? We don’t. 

[Keywestclubkid]

Is that on purpose? ROFL

[QQQQ]

While I have no doubt Crystal spent 6 figures on her basement... she (like Dorit - allegedly) got robbed. The result looks like every midwestern McMansion basement I've ever been in.

[Keywestclubkid]

Rinna caught a glimpse of herself apparently when she saw the devil 

[FlyingEgret]

What happened to Rob's driving range? I thought that's what was making the reno budget so much because they had to lower the floor so he could swing a club...

[RoseAllDay]

Was it just me, or did Erika kind of smile when Crystal said Rinna left? Looked straight-up evil.

Well, the rest of the coven (Diana) is now in it. I think those three have decided to go after Kathy. Goes back to what Erika said earlier about everybody having some dirt on them.

Edited September 22, 2022 by RoseAllDay

[janiema]

Rinna sucks. Let’s say goodbye to her on this show. She is everything that is wrong.

[KenyaJ]

Congrats to Rinna for simultaneously being a huge drama queen and a terrible actress. I'm so sick of her shit.

[Chicklet]

The "toe that broke the camels back"? lol Kathy is whacko, and now could it be that Rinna exaggerated? Someone isn't telling the truth here and I hope it's Rinna.

[Keywestclubkid]

So Kathy vented about Kyle and Rinna saw an opportunity to weaponize it and took it .. 

[SweetieDarling]

1 minute ago, Keywestclubkid said:

So Kathy vented about Kyle and Rinna saw an opportunity to weaponize it and took it .. 

That's her usual m.o. You can't share anything with her, she will use it against you.

I'm kind of surprised she left. She usually enjoys a good group confrontation. I guess she's mixing it up.😉

[Straycat80]

Kathy needs to apologize? Shut up Erika, how many people have you apologized to? Her and the Princess of Licklipia can fuck off. 

[SassyCat]

Erica: “All Kathy has to do is admit it, and apologize”.

🤣😂🤮

[RoseAllDay]

8 minutes ago, Chicklet said:

The "toe that broke the camels back"? lol Kathy is whacko, and now could it be that Rinna exaggerated? Someone isn't telling the truth here and I hope it's Rinna.

I think that Kathy was still angry about what happened earlier, had a few too many, and let loose in front of Rinna. Rinna, never missing an opportunity to destroy, has latched on to this, and Erika and Diana are all too happy to join in.

Rinna is in serious need of help. It’s really rich hearing Erika say what Kathy needs to do to make amends. 🖕Again, Diana, passing judgment on shit she admits she knows nothing about.

Edited September 22, 2022 by RoseAllDay

[Axie]

Uh oh!  Erika is competing with Rinna for the Emmy!

[JenE4]

Diana Bluth over here with her chicken impersonation

[Mar]

[BusyOctober]

Why is Sheree here? Does she think Crystal won’t know Sheree signed as an afterthought? Especially because she signed it with a green highlighter.  I don’t know anything about this woman other than she was married/had a kid with Wil Smith.  She obviously burned through the divorce settlement if she’s (allegedly) grifting for “donations”.

Did Kathy (allegedly)say nasty things about Rinna in Aspen?  Why would Rinna be shocked and have PTSD and need to vacate the premises over what Kathy said about Kyle?  Rinna only cares what people say about her, HarryHamlin and their two vapid offspring. And Erika, of course.  Any and all other people on the planet are fair game for slander in Rinna’s world, even people she had supposed long term friendships.

Erika’s outfit didn’t fit the theme IMO, but as we know,  nonconformist Lil Miss Cunty doesn’t have any fucks to give and only cares about herself.  
 

[Straycat80]

Garcelle and Dorito are on WWHL. Let’s see if they talk about Kathy. 

[ZettaK]

OMG! There is another episode after this...This season will never end....

[65mickey]

Rinna left the party because she was unable to command an audience while she revealed the horrible awful things that Kathy supposedy said and did. So from what I understand  only Lisa, Erika and Diana claim to have witnessed Kathy acting up at the club and only Rinna witnessed Kathy going berserk and verbally attacking all of them. Erika is acting like she is medicated and Lisa is acting like the shit stiring bitch that she is.  For the record I think 90% of what come out of Rinna's mouth is a lie and the other 10% is exaggerated.

Edited September 22, 2022 by 65mickey

[psychoticstate]

Garcelle on WWHL is everything.  I absolutely love her.

[Straycat80]

Just now, psychoticstate said:

Garcelle on WWHL is everything.  I absolutely love her.

I love her red dress and that she doesn’t regret anything she’s said to the Ho’s. 

[Surrealist]

Just started watching.

Rob: "Is tomorrow going to be fun?"

Oh, Rob. You already know the answer.

[Stats Queen]

The editors showing the tour of Tom and Erika’s house the same day the auction selling all their expensive stuff ended. 😂🤣🤣🤣

[Axie]

Rinna, my brothers and I have said horrible things to each other and we’ve all survived.  Move on. 

[Surrealist]

I was expecting Dorit to talk about the chocolate looking "chic," but she used "yummy" instead.

Edited September 22, 2022 by Surrealist

[goofygirl]

I want to say it too!!  SHUT UP RINNA!!!  We all know you can't tell the truth for anything.  Keywestclubkid said it best: Rinna keeps adding things that Kathy said "about everyone" and you KNOW if that were true, LA would have been lit up like a Christmas tree with shit Rinna said Kathy said.

I can barely even WRITE that sentence.  Thank goodness, FF5; you guys are completely riddled with moronic thoughts and actions.

[Keywestclubkid]

Are we pretending that Kyle manhandling Sutton at Garcelle’s party didn’t happen and Kathy is the violent one for stomping on her own glasses? Is that the storyline they are trying to make stick? After Kyle admitted to her and Kim making each other bleed when they used to fight? 

[goofygirl]

26 minutes ago, SassyCat said:

Erica: “All Kathy has to do is admit it, and apologize”.

🤣😂🤮

That's the SAME THING they said about LVP, Denise and all the other unfortunate women the Faux Force has taken aim at.

[ww92]

16 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

Rinna left the party because she was unable to command an audience while she revealed the horrible awful things that Kathy supposedy said and did. So from what I understand  only Lisa, Erika and Diana claim to have witnessed Kathy acting up at the club and only Rinna witnessed Kathy going berserk and verbally attacking all of them. Erika is acting like she is medicated and Lisa is acting like the shit stiring bitch that she is.  For the record I think 90% of what come out of Rinna's mouth is a lie and the other 10% is exaggerated.

I haven't watched the episode yet but if Kathy went nuclear in the Sprinter van and/or at Kyle's then I find it hard to believe that none of that was caught on camera.

[ZettaK]

3 hours ago, BusyOctober said:

Why is Sheree here? Does she think Crystal won’t know Sheree signed as an afterthought? Especially because she signed it with a green highlighter.  I don’t know anything about this woman other than she was married/had a kid with Wil Smith.  She obviously burned through the divorce settlement if she’s (allegedly) grifting for “donations”.

Did Kathy (allegedly)say nasty things about Rinna in Aspen?  Why would Rinna be shocked and have PTSD and need to vacate the premises over what Kathy said about Kyle?  Rinna only cares what people say about her, HarryHamlin and their two vapid offspring. And Erika, of course.  Any and all other people on the planet are fair game for slander in Rinna’s world, even people she had supposed long term friendships.

Erika’s outfit didn’t fit the theme IMO, but as we know,  nonconformist Lil Miss Cunty doesn’t have any fucks to give and only cares about herself.  
 

Kathy made negative comments about Kyle. And allegedly against two employees at a club before that. 

Kathy admitted that her behavior was not proper in Aspen in a talking head/interview.

Paris Hilton used racial slurs in the past.

Erika still plays the victim. And no, she cannot demand compassion from the group when she doesn't show any herself toward the victims.

Sheree doesn't think the earrings should be returned if there is a court order to do so?

Edited September 22, 2022 by ZettaK

[Stats Queen]

Rinna claiming she had PTSD - what an insult to people who really have PTSD from serious drama.

[Surrealist]

8 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

After Kyle admitted to her and Kim making each other bleed when they used to fight? 

This took me right out. My younger sister and I used to squabble when we were kids (almost a 7-year age difference between us). but we never drew blood. 

WTF.

[Surrealist]

So Erika thinks she is the "whipping boy" this season?

Well, that's certainly a take.

[Keywestclubkid]

6 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

This took me right out. My younger sister and I used to squabble when we were kids (almost a 7-year age difference between us). but we never drew blood. 

WTF.

We all can see that the sisters are toxic for each other .. letting Rinna have a storyline using that and wedging herself once again between Kyle and one of her sisters is all kinda fucked up 

Edited September 22, 2022 by Keywestclubkid

[Grumpbump]

I can't believe I fell for this AGAIN.  A whole episode amounting to nothing.  Bravo is gaslighting me.

[Axie]

I once gave my older brother a black eye when we were in middle school. Surprisingly, he said he had always wanted a black eye and was fine with it .  I doubt he ever told anyone he got it from his little sister, though. 

[njbchlover]

I think the real reason Rinna left Crystal's party was because she and Garcelle both wore mens' wear and Garcelle looked 1,000,000 times better!!! 

Oh - and I think tonight may have been the one and only time that I agreed with (and actually may have even liked a teeny, tiny smidgen) Diana.  Rinna did chicken out.  She NEVER shies away from stirring the pot or calling people out, so what made tonight different?  

Edited September 22, 2022 by njbchlover

[Lady of nod]

7 hours ago, charliesan said:

Kathy made a HUGE mistake by leaving with Rinna, if anything, Lisa is cunning enough to know she was about to witness a complete shit show, only problem is, outside of the FF5, no one believes Lisa. 

I'm surprised that everyone's making a huge deal about Kathy, does anyone believe she's this sweet, quirky lady all of the time? I mean, look at her family... Plus, hasn't EVERYONE lost it at one point or another (or several times, like Rinna and Erika). Was Kathy's outburst worse than Erika's? 

Yes. Huge mistake. We all know she’s a liar and the biggest shit stirrer of them all. Really Rhinna, Kathy’s jealous of Kyle? Ha. This from the woman who has shown some of the worst behavior of all the housewives is so shocked by Kathy’s behavior that she has to leave? Please.. i think maybe Kathy has become a little too popular for Rhinna’s liking, so of course she’s on the attack. She had no story line this year other than poor Lois’s passing ( you know, the mom she didn’t visit for years until she became a fan fave) so she’s trying to get something she can sink her teeth into at the reunion. Now she’ll work to destroy Kyle and Kathy’s relationship as she did with Kim and Kyle. 

[Surrealist]

7 minutes ago, Grumpbump said:

I can't believe I fell for this AGAIN.  A whole episode amounting to nothing.  Bravo is gaslighting me.

At this point, I continue watching this show so that I can come here and snark about it.

I'd be happy with a spinoff show starring Phoenix and Jagger snarking on the adults in their lives.

[Beachdreamer]

After watching the episodes that lead up to this, I'm going to make some guesses about what happened. First of all, why is uber rich, very busy socialite Kathy on this show?  Its not for money.  Was it because her sister talked her into it?  Was it because Bravo and Kyle sold her on the idea that she could promote things like Vodka?  I feel like that's a yes. And if so, that's key.

I think Kathy was getting tired of being mocked by Kyle.  I think Kathy was annoyed that her attempts to talk about the Vodka were being shut down at best, and at worst made into a big joke that Rinna took direct aim at.  We saw Kathy get as or more upset with Kyle than with Lisa.  I think that's because Lisa is a snake, and Kyle is the sister and Bravo employee that told Kathy to be on the show to promote things.

Sadly, I am not a member of the elite Aspen club in which no one would Conga.  But I'm going to guess that if I were there, what I might have witnessed would not be Kathy raging that no one would Conga.  Maybe Kathy was trying hard to get people to Conga, and maybe even got annoyed that they didn't, but I have a sneaky suspicion Kyle started mocking Kathy and her desire to Conga, and that maybe that was Kathy's issue. 

I'm also going to guess Rinna wasn't the kind savior bringing her home.  Rinna is a sleeze.  She probably acted like she was going with Kathy to clear the air about the Vodka comments.  And if she did that, Kathy might logically respond that while Rinna's actions were annoying, she was most angry at Bravo and Kyle because they weren't holding up their end of the bargain.

And I don't think sweet, sweet Rinna attempted to diffuse that anger.  I think she flamed the fire as much as possible.  And I think she probably said plenty of her own things about Kyle.  Because Kathy's texts read to me like they had a 2 way conversation, not a one way one.

[Surrealist]

Nice to see Sheree adding her name to Crystal's gift, despite (probably) not chipping in for the cost.

[Keywestclubkid]

1 minute ago, Surrealist said:

Nice to see Sheree adding her name to Crystal's gift, despite (probably) not chipping in for the cost.

she ask for money online under giving to the lord .. and sells knock off items this woman aint gonna chip in on nothing 

[Surrealist]

1 minute ago, Keywestclubkid said:

she ask for money online under giving to the lord .. and sells knock off items this woman aint gonna chip in on nothing 

And with a green highlighter to boot!

I mean, does Garcelle not have a pen lying around in her kitchen? LOL.

At this point, I'd rather see an 80's theme party over another Roaring Twenties party. Although I get why the nouveau riche are attracted to having Gatsby parties.

[Surrealist]

Crystal: "I'm hoping we can leave all the tension behind."

Oh, Sweet Summer Child.

Why is Erika wearing a Statue of Liberty crown?

[Keywestclubkid]

5 minutes ago, Surrealist said:

 Although I get why the nouveau riche are attracted to having Gatsby parties.

I mean if you were rich white man back then it was AMAZING lol I don't get the big draw for anyone else 

[Surrealist]

Did Diana just throw shade at Erika by saying "20's Maleficent?"

4 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I mean if you were rich white man back then it was AMAZING lol I don't get the big draw for anyone else 

Right? With a 1920's version of Dorit walking around talking about how everything looks chic.