S12.E19: We Need to Talk About Kathy

[jewel21]

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Kathy skips the flight home from Aspen; Erika tells Dorit she's hurt; Crystal's Roaring 20's birthday party.

Airdate: 09/21/2022

[Surrealist]

"Let's talk about the Kathy..."

[ZettaK]

Bravo is not going to show/tell us what really happened in Aspen. What happened in that private club was not filmed. We will see the aftermath only.

[Hiyo]

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Erika tells Dorit she's hurt

Basically, what she means is:

[njbchlover]

Why do we need to talk about Kathy - shouldn't only Kyle be doing any talking??  

Is this the final episode?  I feel like this season has gone on forever!!  

Edited September 19, 2022 by njbchlover

[Keywestclubkid]

6 hours ago, njbchlover said:

Why do we need to talk about Kathy - shouldn't only Kyle be doing any talking??  

Is this the final episode?  I feel like this season has gone on forever!!  

I think there is one more after this then the reunion 

[65mickey]

Whenever the reality TV shows need an "original" party theme they turn to a roaring 20's sometimes known as a Gatsby theme.

[RoseAllDay]

16 hours ago, njbchlover said:

Why do we need to talk about Kathy - shouldn't only Kyle be doing any talking??  

Is this the final episode?  I feel like this season has gone on forever!!  

I’m thinking it is. Bravo has been running promos for SLC, which starts a week from Wednesday. The BH reunion (and please, God, let’s have only two weeks) would be the lead in to SLC (I hope).

Agreed — this Dumpster fire has gone on long enough.

No, we don’t need to talk about Kathy.

41 minutes ago, 65mickey said:

Whenever the reality TV shows need an "original" party theme they turn to a roaring 20's sometimes known as a Gatsby theme.

Overdone to the point of boredom, IMO. The Below Deck franchises are repeat offenders.

On 9/19/2022 at 12:00 AM, ZettaK said:

Bravo is not going to show/tell us what really happened in Aspen. What happened in that private club was not filmed. We will see the aftermath only.

With certain people’s spins on it.

What a joke.

[RoseAllDay]

On 9/19/2022 at 12:00 AM, ZettaK said:

Bravo is not going to show/tell us what really happened in Aspen. What happened in that private club was not filmed. We will see the aftermath only.

From what I’ve been reading, this was all driven by Rinna. So keep that in mind when you watch.

[charliesan]

Kathy made a HUGE mistake by leaving with Rinna, if anything, Lisa is cunning enough to know she was about to witness a complete shit show, only problem is, outside of the FF5, no one believes Lisa. 

I'm surprised that everyone's making a huge deal about Kathy, does anyone believe she's this sweet, quirky lady all of the time? I mean, look at her family... Plus, hasn't EVERYONE lost it at one point or another (or several times, like Rinna and Erika). Was Kathy's outburst worse than Erika's? 

[Keywestclubkid]

Ok before I watch a very edited version of what happened that is being told by very unreliable sources (Rinna who is a proven liar for attention) I will say 

Do I think Kathy was pissed about something? Yes 100% Do I think she could possibly be venting like we all do when we get pissed? YES 100% do I think its as bad as Rinna and the girls and even Bravo is hinting at? NO no way in hell cause we would have heard stories way before now if she acted this way with others I don't believe all the sudden she turned into a rage monster one time 

[SweetieDarling]

I want the employees of the club interviewed to give their side(s) of what happened. If it were as bad as Rinna is claiming, with racial and/or homophobic slurs being hurled, wouldn't the person on the receiving end of the slur and witnesses (patrons and employees) have come forward by now? even if just for their 15 minutes of "fame"? 

Edited September 21, 2022 by SweetieDarling

[Castina]

I think Kathy has played up her ditzy side since she came on this show.  And fine because they all show what they want to show.  
Seeing how angry she got about the tequila I can very well believe she got angry about not being able to conga and left in a snit. 

But do I think Rinna and Erika were beyond thrilled this fell into their lap and they played it up and made it THE Aspen story.  Absolutely. 

I mean Rinna and Erika had their own unhinged outbursts this season.  And I take what Diana says in the preview with the tiniest grain of salt considering how she described what Sutton did to her in Mexico as bad as she did. 

I also think Kathy would have been pissed at Kyle for not going home with her.  This all happens the same day Kyle went from crying like a wounded puppy because the mean girls blanked her and her hat trip but then as soon as she made up with Erika in that backroom at the bar she was all over them again telling the other ladies to put a pin in it.  

I think there is a pattern here of Kyle choosing her show friends over her s

Things that confuse me from the preview coupled with things we saw earlier:
-Crystal said somewhere that more of them were going to leave but it was taking her so long to get her coat (for some reason Rinna made it into the club with her coat) that she told them to go ahead.  So at least Crystal was going to leave in that car with them.

-There are older previews of Kathy standing in what looks like a open garage saying she is soooo pissed off and wanting to leave.  After watching the preview of them talking on the plane does it appear Kyle and Maurizio just left the house with Kathy in it and didnt' say goodbye?  

Kyle who was so distraught that Erika moved out the previous night without talking to her just walked out of her own house in Aspen without saying goodbye or any sort of contact?  Alls very very bizarre. 

Edited September 21, 2022 by Castina

[Straycat80]

49 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

I want the employees of the club interviewed to give their side(s) of what happened. If it were as bad as Rinna is claiming, with racial and/or homophobic slurs being hurled, wouldn't the person on the receiving end of the slur and witnesses (patrons and employees) have come forward by now? even if just for their 15 minutes of "fame"? 

I read somewhere, can’t remember, that no racial or homophobic slurs were hurled. Erika hinted last week on WWHL that the fight had something to do between Kathy and Kyle, long brewing family related stuff. 
Rinna is most likely stirring the pot to take the attention off of her horrible behavior this season. And this is just my guess BTW. 

[Jel]

If it’s true, and I really hope it is, that there were no racist or homophobic slurs uttered, then I really have to wonder why we are even thinking it. Who is the source of this rumor. Once we figure that out, we know who leaks to the press. My money is on Rinna , maybe with some encouragement from Kyle. Time will tell I guess.

[Cheyanne11]

Rinna saying she's "never seen anyone like this before" tells me all I need to know about how much she's exaggerating.

[RoseAllDay]

As someone famous once said, this is “sound and fury, signifying nothing.”

Just one more hour of confusing, pointless bullshit. Why am I still watching? Beats the hell out of me…

[Chicklet]

Storm looks bored. Smart doggy.

[WaltersHair]

Problem with Rinna is that she only lies when she opens her mouth.

[RoseAllDay]

The description of Kathy’s behavior sounds just like Erika’s on a weekly basis, which they all almost to a person ignore or excuse.

I’m taking ALL of this with a HUGE grain of salt. Kathy probably just reached her limit. Can’t blame her.

And Rinna can just shove her armchair psychoanalysis.

[Straycat80]

I really hope we eventually get Kathy’s side of this story. Probably will wait until the reunion. 

[ZettaK]

13 hours ago, RoseAllDay said:

From what I’ve been reading, this was all driven by Rinna. So keep that in mind when you watch.

A lot of what written was about Kathy and racial and homophobic slurs at the private Aspen club.

Karhy sent a cease and desist to Rinna, and possibly Bravo. Those are not sent for nothing.

Edited September 22, 2022 by ZettaK

[JenE4]

Kathy is going scorched earth on NBC and her family etc…because no one wanted to do a conga line with her?!?!

[Mr. Miner]

Smokey’s a good boy! 😍

Edited September 22, 2022 by Mr. Miner

[QQQQ]

Crystal: They're not going to ruin my birthday.

Narrator: They would go on to ruin Crystal's birthday.

[Avaleigh]

4 hours ago, Castina said:

I think Kathy has played up her ditzy side since she came on this show.  And fine because they all show what they want to show.  

I do get the impression that Kathy's playing a role. (They all are to some extent but I think she'd have us believe that this is who she truly is all/most of the time.) It's not unlike how she and Paris claim that Paris was just playing a role and only recently started behaving in a more authentic way. This isn't Kathy's first time at the reality show rodeo. Far from it. By my count she's appeared on at least four not counting the failed helping homeless people pilot that they all wish we would forget existed. (I haven't and won't forget lol.) She knows the deal and isn't a newbie freshman the way most women are when they come on a housewives show for the first time.

Kathy knows the deal and I think she thought that being ditzy or kooky or whatever we want to call it would endear her to audiences. I think it's mostly worked and I admit that I actually like her on the show for the most part.* I don't think she wants anything to contradict the version of herself that she's putting out there for viewers.

All this being said, Kathy definitely has another side to her. I don't know what happened in Aspen and I wouldn't trust Rinna to tell me what color the sky is, but it isn't impossible for me to believe that Kathy was out of order in some way. Even if she did make a scene of some kind that doesn't excuse the way Kyle and Rinna have treated her. It's still crazy to me that those two thirst buckets can't respect the fact that Kathy is just like them in wanting to promote a business venture as part of her deal for appearing in the show. 

*Sidenote: I once saw Kathy at LAX a few years ago with Rick and she actually seemed nice. It was a food court type situation and she even cleaned up after herself and Rick. I was pleased to see that she didn't act like an asshole who just expected the staff to clean up after her. That earned her some goodwill in my book.

Anyway, looking forward to tonight. DH wants to watch Andor and I had to insist that RHBH comes first tonight lol. Normally I wait until the next day to watch but I'm curious to see how this trip plays out.

[ZettaK]

5 hours ago, SweetieDarling said:

I want the employees of the club interviewed to give their side(s) of what happened. If it were as bad as Rinna is claiming, with racial and/or homophobic slurs being hurled, wouldn't the person on the receiving end of the slur and witnesses (patrons and employees) have come forward by now? even if just for their 15 minutes of "fame"? 

The club is a private, members only club with rich, or famous people as members. The personnel and management would never give interviews.

[Chicklet]

So for once Kyle didn't start this disaster with Kathy? 

Really they have to play with chocolate and Lucy and Ethel? Hardly, idiots.

Edited September 22, 2022 by Chicklet

[RoseAllDay]

Dorit: “Aspen was a rough ride for Erika.”

REALLY? 

EDIT — And poor, put-upon Erika hints at blackmail. God, I hate her ass.

Edited September 22, 2022 by RoseAllDay

[WaltersHair]

Yes, Erika. Your ass looks totally torn up. 🙄

[Stats Queen]

Rinna says Kyle’s way more famous than Kathy 😅

[Straycat80]

7 minutes ago, QQQQ said:

Crystal: They're not going to ruin my birthday.

Narrator: They would go on to ruin Crystal's birthday.

Note to Crystal: don’t let your son attend your birthday party, Erika might proposition, or swear at him like she did Garcelle’s sons. 

[Chicklet]

Sheree can't afford a gift because I guess not many people have sent in their "donations" to her "ministry" that I didn't know she had.

[RoseAllDay]

I knew it! Garcelle is channelling Josephine Baker.

I’m loving these ‘20s looks.

[KenyaJ]

When I heard Sheree was going to be on this show, I was excited for Garcelle to have a long-time friend around. But Sheree sucks. I don't need to see her again after this season.

[psychoticstate]

Sheree sucks for signing her name to Garcelle's gift to Crystal.  I had that happen to me once and it pissed me off.  It pisses me off now.

I love the 1920s theme.  Hopefully all the ladies bring it.  

Erika is a complete ass.  Never was there more truth in advertising than when she wore her c**t necklace. 

[Straycat80]

Oh shut up Rinna. PTSD my ass. Sutton probably feels the same way for how Rinna treated her a few episodes back. 

[Chicklet]

Rinna has to make everything about her. It's a really annoying character trait.

[Mr. Miner]

GOODBYE RINNA! 🖕🏻

[Keywestclubkid]

Rinna is so traumatized? GTFO 

[RoseAllDay]

3 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

Oh shut up Rinna. PTSD my ass. Sutton probably feels the same way for how Rinna treated her a few episodes back. 

She’s so traumatized by Kathy’s presence that she has to go home. Well, bye.

That’s a sign right there that she’s stirred the shitpot and doesn’t want to deal with it. 

Erika and another stupid, gaudy getup. None of that fit the theme, so she stayed on brand.

Edited September 22, 2022 by RoseAllDay

[psychoticstate]

If Rinna is traumatized, maybe she now knows how Sutton and Denise feel/felt.  

[BusyOctober]

Ok, Rinna with the over sized Elton John ski goggle look is one of the most ridiculous fashion accessory…until I saw Dorit and Erika donning the Papa Smurf night caps at the chocolatier’s.  Those stocking caps were just for a laugh, right?  Because no way in Hell those were for food safety precautions.  Both Dorit's and Erika’s heads of extensions were 80% uncovered.  I hope all the candy made while they were present was tossed in the bin.

And Cry Baby Kyle didn’t seem inconsolable while packing for her post Aspen trip to GA. She was annoyed and upset over an argument or Kathy being in a snit about not joining them on the plane home.   If Kathy had really said the vicious things about Kyle Rinna is claiming, Kyle would be prostrate on the floor, surrounded by tear- and snot- riddled caftans, weeping and wailing in every scene.

[SassyCat]

What a scuzz bucket move it was for Sheree to secretly open Garcelles card to Crystal and add her name in huge green marker color. This after her ONE line during the whole Aspen trip about her constipation. So entertaining 😐

[Axie]

Can someone please tell Rinna she’s not going to win an Emmy, so, she can stop with the soap opera performance. 

[psychoticstate]

What is Erika wearing?  At first I thought she was going for Statute of Liberty if the Statute of Liberty had a bad wig, was unsympathetic and suffered with vocal fry but whoever said Maleficent nailed it.  

[Vanderboom]

Lol @ Rinna being upset that Kathy dressed up for the party "like nothing happened." Did she expect Kathy to go all Baby Jane after the trip?

[SweetieDarling]

Why was Erika dressed as The Statue of Liberty? And Diana was dressed as Marilyn Monroe.

[Keywestclubkid]

Why does she slowly keep adding things to what Kathy said? You know damn well if Kathy said those things about those woman she would have went RUNNING to them 

[SassyCat]

Oh shut up Rinna. Kathy Pretending like nothing happened? Like you and the team do for Erica every waking moment of your lives?

Yeah. Just exactly like that.