saber5055 December 13, 2022 Share December 13, 2022 57 minutes ago, SoMuchTV said: Well, in their defense, I (the Latin scholar after two years about 50 years ago) could only come up with those well known Latin phrases, “tit for tat” and “gen er ic”. Hey! Me too with tit for tat. And, like I've seen Holy Grail a bazillion times, I've also seen Silence of the Lambs a gazillion times. Don't remember coconut horses OR quid pro quo. I do remember lots of other random things from both movies though. Some day, they might be J clues. That just proves different brains remember different things, and for that, I thank the gods! 1 2 5 Link to comment
secnarf December 13, 2022 Share December 13, 2022 I got FJ just in the nick of time - wouldn't have had time to write it down, but it did come to me with the last notes of the think music. I also went on a mental side tangent, as I am a pharmacist - was trying to think of a Latin phrase that is currently used in the field today. Finally gave up and started thinking more generally, and that is when I got there. 7 Link to comment
Prevailing Wind December 13, 2022 Share December 13, 2022 2 hours ago, SoMuchTV said: Well, in their defense, I (the Latin scholar after two years about 50 years ago) could only come up with those well known Latin phrases, “tit for tat” and “gen er ic”. I threw caution to the wind and said, "E Pluribus Unum." At least I remembered that it was supposed to be 3 words. 4 7 2 Link to comment
Driad December 13, 2022 Share December 13, 2022 Not being a pharmacist, I thought of 3-word phrases that might possibly apply. Luckily my high school Latin teacher worked us pretty hard. Someone called this teacher "Veni, vidi, cucurri." 2 Link to comment
annzeepark914 December 13, 2022 Share December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, saber5055 said: Hey! Me too with tit for tat. And, like I've seen Holy Grail a bazillion times, I've also seen Silence of the Lambs a gazillion times. Don't remember coconut horses OR quid pro quo. I do remember lots of other random things from both movies though. Some day, they might be J clues. That just proves different brains remember different things, and for that, I thank the gods! I only had three years of Latin (in h. s.). I've never associated quid pro quo with prescriptions. 1 1 Link to comment
Bastet December 13, 2022 Share December 13, 2022 (edited) As a civil rights lawyer focused on women's rights, quid pro quo means an old-school sexual harassment claim (sadly, these still exist, but many predators have moved on to hostile environment forms of harassment) -- so, to me, it's something requested (demanded) as "payment" for something else. Thus, the example of something as a substitute for another thing of the same type didn't immediately lead me to it, but concentrating on how the "originally" qualifier meant common association had changed, I realized, oh, three-word Latin phrase of something for something in plenty of time. Edited December 13, 2022 by Bastet 5 Link to comment
3 is enough December 13, 2022 Share December 13, 2022 I got FJ easily. Never took a Latin class in my life, but a lifetime of watching Jeopardy has taught me quite a bit. ;) 5 2 1 Link to comment
Cotypubby December 13, 2022 Share December 13, 2022 After thinking for about 15 seconds I managed to come up with the correct FJ in time. I always hear that phrase in my head the way it’s said in “Silence of the Lambs.” 😆 2 1 Link to comment
30 Helens December 13, 2022 Share December 13, 2022 5 hours ago, SHD said: I know many people like constant turnover and new champions, but I’m missing really becoming familiar with one contestant and feeling more invested in rooting for someone. I find value in both. It really depends on how much I like the person who keeps winning. I ran 3 categories (Titles in Other Countries, YU-, Sew &Sew) and got one TS (Time Traveler’s Wife), but no FJ for me. Like Bastet, I think of that phrase in terms of reciprocity (my husband associates it with sexual harassment training); unlike Bastet, neither of us made the leap to substitution. Truthfully, the phrase never even entered my mind to be rejected, but I may well have rejected it for that reason. Or maybe I just used up my daily reserve of Latin with “in absentia”. Anyway, I thought it was an interesting bit of trivia— this is the kind of curious fact that I enjoy learning from Jeopardy. 1 5 Link to comment
Clanstarling December 13, 2022 Share December 13, 2022 12 hours ago, GreekGeek said: My Life as a Dog, which came out in 1985, so not a 70's movie. I didn't know it either, because I *whisper* have never seen Monty Python and the Holy Grail. Too many "quoters" have made me think, "Eh, I've pretty much heard all the good bits already." And though I enjoyed the films, I think you are probably right. 9 hours ago, annzeepark914 said: I only had three years of Latin (in h. s.). I've never associated quid pro quo with prescriptions. I understood why one contestant put down "placebo" - it was the first thing that came to mind, but of course I rejected it as not being three words. I'm sure it was just a desperate attempt to put something down. Never thought of quid pro quo in a pharmaceutical sense, so I didn't get FJ. On the other hand, I nearly ran (4 out of 5) Songs, Movie Titles, Words and Chicago (4.5 for that, I got Lena's first name, anyway). And I ran Y-U. So a good game despite not getting FJ. I also got a number of triple stumpers, but I didn't keep track. 2 Link to comment
PaulaO December 13, 2022 Share December 13, 2022 My FJ! answer west in locum tenens. I knew it was wrong but it was the only 3 word vaguely Latin phrase I could think of. 2 Link to comment
PBnJay December 13, 2022 Share December 13, 2022 I heard the term quid pro quo a lot during the last presidential term, it just didn't have anything to do with prescriptions. Pretty tough FJ so yeay for everyone who got it correct. I am not one of them. 8 1 1 Link to comment
ams1001 December 14, 2022 Share December 14, 2022 57% / 63% / 61% J!: Yeesh, I got a big, fat 0 in Place"O" and missed two in everything else… DJ: Ran Oil Things Considered, missed one in She Wrote, two in Letters and Chemistry, and three in Spanish Art and City Speak. FJ was an instaget. TSes were skipping stones, Trumpet of the Swan (didn't need the sound for that one), G, and Lizzo. 1 Link to comment
Katy M December 14, 2022 Share December 14, 2022 I got FJ right. I got the missed clues of Borneo and G (really guys, it doesn't take that long to count to 7), you could have rang in while counting if you didn't already know). So-so night. 2 Link to comment
dgpolo December 14, 2022 Share December 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Katy M said: I got the missed clues of Borneo and G (really guys, it doesn't take that long to count to 7) I got the impression they weren't sure about the 'adjacent letter' and might have been trying to figure out exactly what they wanted. 4 Link to comment
PBnJay December 14, 2022 Share December 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, dgpolo said: I got the impression they weren't sure about the 'adjacent letter' and might have been trying to figure out exactly what they wanted. Like I did, confidently saying "E." Of course, I didn't take time to count because I was pos I was correct. 5 Link to comment
SoMuchTV December 14, 2022 Share December 14, 2022 Well, yay, I guess. They broke the streak of one-day champions. I tried to find what the record is (for longest streak of one-day champs) but all google wants to tell me is the longest streak of a single champion. 2 Link to comment
SyracuseMug December 14, 2022 Share December 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, SoMuchTV said: Well, yay, I guess. They broke the streak of one-day champions. I tried to find what the record is (for longest streak of one-day champs) but all google wants to tell me is the longest streak of a single champion. I would suggest you go to the archive and check the contestant list from each season. It shouldn't take a lot of time to find each string of one and dones. There probably won't be many. Link to comment
SoMuchTV December 14, 2022 Share December 14, 2022 1 minute ago, SyracuseMug said: I would suggest you go to the archive and check the contestant list from each season. It shouldn't take a lot of time to find each string of one and dones. There probably won't be many. Good idea but that’s a lot of seasons! If someone gets to it before I do, I hope they’ll report back. 1 Link to comment
secnarf December 14, 2022 Share December 14, 2022 1 hour ago, dgpolo said: I got the impression they weren't sure about the 'adjacent letter' and might have been trying to figure out exactly what they wanted. That makes sense. I was sitting here thinking how could none of these people count to the seventh letter of the alphabet?! Ring in and count after, it doesn't take long. But if they were all confused about the wording, that makes sense why none of them rang in. 2 Link to comment
possibilities December 14, 2022 Share December 14, 2022 I was all excited that I knew FJ was Frederick Douglass, and it turns out all the players also knew. I guess it's not as obscure a fact as I thought! 2 1 Link to comment
Leeds December 14, 2022 Share December 14, 2022 I've skipped a lot of stones in my life, but never one that made a sound like that. 2 2 Link to comment
Bastet December 14, 2022 Share December 14, 2022 The "G" TS pretty much blew my mind. It was only worth $400 for a reason; part of the game is simply paying attention to what the clue is asking for. (I know Ken said they couldn't count in time, and it did look like at least one of them was doing that [which is silly; ring in, then count], but I cannot believe not one of three J! contestants could count seven letters in that amount of time; I think, like others have said, they got distracted by the "you get an adjacent letter if you don't know" part.) And, yeah, while I got skipping stones, I thought that audio clip sounded more like a failed attempt at it. I ran places and food and got all but one in funerals, Santas, and words (I should have run that one, but I could not get keystone from my brain to my mouth), and only missed two in sounds, so I was off to a decent start. But I didn't run a single category in DJ. I got all but one in chemistry, but missed three each in letters and art and two each in the rest. And quite a few of those were things I knew but couldn't come up with in time, which is frustrating. FJ was an instaget, though, so at least I ended on a high note. 2 Link to comment
SomeTameGazelle December 14, 2022 Share December 14, 2022 2 hours ago, SoMuchTV said: Well, yay, I guess. They broke the streak of one-day champions. I tried to find what the record is (for longest streak of one-day champs) but all google wants to tell me is the longest streak of a single champion. Someone on reddit did the research and said it was 14 games (2 separate times). I found myself rooting against Sean. I don't really dislike him (although apparently he thinks Trafalgar was a person?). Brett got flustered in another clue and said "Who is Beverly Hills" but I'm sure he knew it was a place. 1 Link to comment
SomeTameGazelle December 14, 2022 Share December 14, 2022 35 minutes ago, Bastet said: The "G" TS pretty much blew my mind. It was only worth $400 for a reason; part of the game is simply paying attention to what the clue is asking for. (I know Ken said they couldn't count in time, and it did look like at least one of them was doing that [which is silly; ring in, then count], but I cannot believe not one of three J! contestants could count seven letters in that amount of time; I think, like others have said, they got distracted by the "you get an adjacent letter if you don't know" part.) Those assists in a clue only really work if they narrow your options. If theyre too wordy it can add drag. I had to just ignore that part in order to get to G (I use VLOOKUP in Excel too much so I translate letters to numbers in my head regularly) because I had no idea that "you get" was referring to grades and vaguely thought it was nonsensically saying that if I made a mistake counting I might guess H or F. 1 2 Link to comment
Bliss December 14, 2022 Share December 14, 2022 2 FJs in a row! Quid pro quo reminded me of my dad's joke about the conjugation of the latin verb 'po' (I'm not even sure there IS a verb 'po'... but hang in there and wait for it... and also forgive me for the phonetic spelling - it's been many moons since I took latin): Po, pis, pit... pimus, pistus, pants. (hint: say it fast) The grandkids think its hilarious. 6 Link to comment
Good Queen Jane December 14, 2022 Share December 14, 2022 9 hours ago, SomeTameGazelle said: Those assists in a clue only really work if they narrow your options. If theyre too wordy it can add drag. I had to just ignore that part in order to get to G Actually, I got the correct letter because of the clue. I started with F (failing grade) and then moved to G. 1 1 Link to comment
proserpina65 December 14, 2022 Share December 14, 2022 On 12/13/2022 at 12:24 AM, Bastet said: As a civil rights lawyer focused on women's rights, quid pro quo means an old-school sexual harassment claim (sadly, these still exist, but many predators have moved on to hostile environment forms of harassment) -- so, to me, it's something requested (demanded) as "payment" for something else. Thus, the example of something as a substitute for another thing of the same type didn't immediately lead me to it, but concentrating on how the "originally" qualifier meant common association had changed, I realized, oh, three-word Latin phrase of something for something in plenty of time. Given how often we heard that phrase during a certain event a few years ago, you'd have thought I would come up with quid pro quo, but all I had was "it's not e pluribus unum". I got G but it was kind of a guess, as in I knew they wanted a letter next to F and it was either E or G and I said G. Yeah, no idea that it was the seventh letter and I didn't have time to count by the time I figured out what the clue wanted. 1 Link to comment
pancake bacon December 14, 2022 Share December 14, 2022 On 12/12/2022 at 10:21 PM, PaulaO said: Small voice ::despite disliking Ken for many years, I now like him as a host more than I liked Alex:: On 12/13/2022 at 12:11 AM, Clanstarling said: Never disliked Ken, but the Starling household like his hosting better than Alex's. So you have company. On 12/13/2022 at 1:28 AM, possibilities said: I'm in the same boat. He is quite delightful. I'm so glad the Jeopardy social media team are upping their game by allowing the post-competition chats are shared to the audience. (They used to occasionally show this as the credits rolled, waaaay back in the day. ) So we get to see Ken be quick with his wit, and lay down that affable charm (but not so squeaky that we have a "What is a hoe?" on occasion!). 4 Link to comment
PBnJay December 14, 2022 Share December 14, 2022 11 hours ago, SomeTameGazelle said: I found myself rooting against Sean. I don't really dislike him (although apparently he thinks Trafalgar was a person?). Brett got flustered in another clue and said "Who is Beverly Hills" but I'm sure he knew it was a place. How quickly we forget Matt Amodio. 1 4 Link to comment
Clanstarling December 14, 2022 Share December 14, 2022 17 hours ago, SoMuchTV said: Good idea but that’s a lot of seasons! If someone gets to it before I do, I hope they’ll report back. I find that if it's too much work to figure it out, I let others do the work. 😁 I do I often look up (and post) information, I just am never in the mood to go through lots of records to come up with an answer. 16 hours ago, possibilities said: I was all excited that I knew FJ was Frederick Douglass, and it turns out all the players also knew. I guess it's not as obscure a fact as I thought! I got it tangled up with the picture of the enslaved man who is the subject of the movie Emancipation, but I got around to Frederick in time. So THAT's what Maja means! I never gave it much thought, I just figured it was some kind of title. I did semi-well in this category, though. Except for this one. I knew all of the authors - but unfortunately only got two of them right. My mind went blank on the rest. So it wasn't a great game for me, but I got FJ, so that's a win in my book. 1 3 Link to comment
possibilities December 14, 2022 Share December 14, 2022 PBS aired a documentary about Frederick Douglass recently. Highly recommended. But I think this episode of J! was taped long before that. 1 1 Link to comment
Bastet December 14, 2022 Share December 14, 2022 (edited) 53 minutes ago, possibilities said: PBS aired a documentary about Frederick Douglass recently. Highly recommended. But I think this episode of J! was taped long before that. No, Becoming Frederick Douglass premiered a couple of weeks before this was taped (the documentary premiered 10/11 and this game was taped 10/24), and was promoted for several months before, so that's likely what put him/that piece of information about him (which is included in the film) in the writers' minds at that time. Edited December 14, 2022 by Bastet 1 1 1 Link to comment
ams1001 December 15, 2022 Share December 15, 2022 Wed 12/14/22 80% / 63% / 70% J!: Not bad first round…ran Lights, Camera, Auction!, missed two Animals in French and one each in everything else. DJ: Not so great second round…ran Nonfiction, missed one each in Crossword Clues and Instruments and three each in everything else. FJ: Not a clue. TSes: Johnson, blood pudding (DD), and Northwest Passage (DD) Link to comment
Katy M December 15, 2022 Share December 15, 2022 I got FJ right. I got the missed clues of blood pudding and Conan the Barbarian. I got the entire category o auction right. 1 1 Link to comment
dgpolo December 15, 2022 Share December 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Katy M said: I got FJ right. Me too! and I'm really bad at Presidential trivia, but somewhere in my mind I knew Wilson had married while in office, I just hoped he was the last one.🤞 also got Conan and the NW Passage. Did pretty well generally. The champ's got some nice sweaters! 2 1 Link to comment
annzeepark914 December 15, 2022 Share December 15, 2022 Did someone post here who they thought Sean looks like? I can't find that post. It's driving me a little nuts. An actor? A TV reporter? Hope he wins tomorrow so he can at least be even with his cousin. 1 2 Link to comment
Bastet December 15, 2022 Share December 15, 2022 2 hours ago, annzeepark914 said: Did someone post here who they thought Sean looks like? I didn't, but after two games (his first was an archive game for me), he makes me think of Richard Carpenter when The Carpenters were getting started. He doesn't actually look like him facially, but that haircut plus the sweater with the collared shirt makes me think of Carpenter's "clean-cut" years. I almost ran the first round, but I missed one in animals and two in proof. But I didn't run a single thing in DJ. I got all but one in nonfiction, J.C., and crossword clues (with just one more second, I'd have run that one, but I couldn't come up with Labrador quite in time), but I missed three in instrumental (it could have been two, as I knew the hymn was something about nearer to God, but I couldn't get all the extra words right and in the right place) and two each in the others. I didn't know FJ. And there was no "Oh, yeah" recognition when it was revealed; I have somehow gone 50 years without ever coming across, or at least coming across and retaining, that bit of information. 2 1 Link to comment
30 Helens December 15, 2022 Share December 15, 2022 4 hours ago, annzeepark914 said: Did someone post here who they thought Sean looks like? I can't find that post. It's driving me a little nuts. An actor? A TV reporter? Hope he wins tomorrow so he can at least be even with his cousin. I was thinking today that he kind of looks like Ken Jennings, back when Ken was playing. I was also hoping for his sake that he wins five, so he can have bragging rights. After that, I think I’ll be ready for a new champ. 6 Link to comment
SomeTameGazelle December 15, 2022 Share December 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Bastet said: I didn't know FJ. And there was no "Oh, yeah" recognition when it was revealed; I have somehow gone 50 years without ever coming across, or at least coming across and retaining, that bit of information. Apparently the podcast Edith! taught me nothing. I didn't get there. I was too busy mixing up Coolidge and Harding. 2 Link to comment
dcalley December 15, 2022 Share December 15, 2022 I had an alternate answer for this clue that I think the judges would have to accept: Quote Godiva makes a mix for this kind of pudding; so does Jell-O Spoiler What is instant? 1 3 4 Link to comment
Clanstarling December 15, 2022 Share December 15, 2022 14 hours ago, dgpolo said: Me too! and I'm really bad at Presidential trivia, but somewhere in my mind I knew Wilson had married while in office, I just hoped he was the last one.🤞 I had just a tickle in my brain that it was Wilson, and went with it. 11 hours ago, Bastet said: I didn't, but after two games (his first was an archive game for me), he makes me think of Richard Carpenter when The Carpenters were getting started. He doesn't actually look like him facially, but that haircut plus the sweater with the collared shirt makes me think of Carpenter's "clean-cut" years. Yes, he does have that vibe. I don't think he looks like anyone I'm familiar with, but the Carpenter connectin is definitely there. 9 hours ago, dcalley said: I had an alternate answer for this clue that I think the judges would have to accept: Hide contents What is instant? Which was my guess - Thank You! I did pretty well, ran Lights, Action, Camera and had several categories in which I only missed one. I got the blood pudding, bagpipes, and Northwest Passage triple stumpers. And I got FJ, so I ended the show feeling good about myself (or thinking that the first board was way too easy - I waffled between the two). 1 2 Link to comment
DrSpaceman73 December 15, 2022 Share December 15, 2022 I know it's hard to think in front of the cameras and you just take a guess but William Henry Harrison? He was in office like 30 days with pneumonia and preceded Tyler. I didn't know Woodrow Wilson was married in office thought it was grover Cleveland, creepy story about him marrying a girl he knew as a child. 1 Link to comment
saber5055 December 15, 2022 Share December 15, 2022 Ken must have really enjoyed this presidential FJ since he wrote a Junior Genius Guide about the presidents and that fact is one of a bazillion nuggets of knowledge in the book. I have several Junior Genius Guides and love them all. They are packed with facts and no, they are not "kids books," all contain plenty of entertainment for "older" readers. Ken is a sly and witty writer just as he is as J host. 10 Link to comment
SoMuchTV December 15, 2022 Share December 15, 2022 12 hours ago, dcalley said: I had an alternate answer for this clue that I think the judges would have to accept: Hide contents What is instant? I agree; I can't see any reason it doesn't fit the clue. I just checked and Godiva's mix is indeed instant. Jello makes both instant and "cook-and-serve" varieties. 5 1 Link to comment
illdoc December 16, 2022 Share December 16, 2022 My mother pre-guessed "Die Hard". Her reasoning--it's near Christmas (figuring J! would have holiday related clue) and "Die Hard" is sort of a Christmas movie. However, I could swear that I hear Bruce Willis say that last line, but I guess I'm wrong. My guess for "Supergroups" Daft + the Machine was Daft Punk and Rage Against the Machine, not realizing the the "+" was part of the clue (and not just as an "and"). I got the TS of San Simeon and the missed DD of Legionnaire's disease. 3 2 1 Link to comment
rubaco December 16, 2022 Share December 16, 2022 22 hours ago, annzeepark914 said: Did someone post here who they thought Sean looks like? I can't find that post. It's driving me a little nuts. An actor? A TV reporter? Hope he wins tomorrow so he can at least be even with his cousin. He definitely reminds me of someone but I can't put my finger on it. Eli Manning when he was younger, maybe? Link to comment
ams1001 December 16, 2022 Share December 16, 2022 53% / 77% / 66% Not a great start...in J! I failed Dutch Treat, missed one in Brief Lives and New Musical Supergroups, two in TLC and Tables, Ladders, & Chairs, and three in Droning On Across America. In DJ I ran Short Category (though without knowing the category I would not have gotten shortstop), Another Name for that Condition, and The Name as a Past Tense Verb, missed one History in Art and three in the others. FJ was an instaget (with a mild question mark at the end). I have never seen the movie but it seemed like the obvious choice (therefore I questioned if it was really that easy). The only missed clue I got was Legionnaires' disease (DD). 1 Link to comment
Katy M December 16, 2022 Share December 16, 2022 I got FJ right. The only missed clue I got was 6 Degrees of Separation. And I got the entire category of history in art right. Link to comment
annzeepark914 December 16, 2022 Share December 16, 2022 Dang.. I was pulling for Sean, not just because of the competition with his cousin. He was a really good competitor without any irritating tics, and likeable too 😊 3 1 Link to comment
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