Unexpected: All Episodes Discussion

[Auntie Anxiety]

Would TLC have the nerve to bring back Jason and Kylen for another season? Because Jason certainly thinks that he’s the main attraction (and thanks, Dad, because now we know for sure why your son turned out to be such a psychopath, as in apple—->falling——>tree). I’m not sure I’d want to watch Kylen continuing to be controlled, bullied and gaslighted, while her father dies a long, slow, sad death.

[RoxiP]

15 hours ago, Chris Knight said:

Was Loser Jason opening gum and throwing the wrapper on the ground  ? Before his belch. I cant stand that punk. The big bully with nothing to say. Too dumb to form a "closing statement ".

Lilly and Lawrence did look a lot better tonight. Honestly I cant throw stones about their sleeping arrangements. When the 4 Knights were really little, we slept all over the house. They are all older and in their own rooms now lol. 

I'm still on Emerson's parents' side. I don't think it's judgemental in a bad way to be concerned about a drug user in the home with their daughter and grandson. Even if Mason's mom is a lovely person  - not saying she is but let's give her the benefit of the doubt  - she was a drug user in the recent past. And the drugs came from somewhere,  a dealer of some sort. Dealers are not lovely people. This seems very dangerous to me, to allow a naive new mother with her newborn to live in that house. 

I can see your point on potential issues with Mason's mom, but Mason's dad seems to have kept his children safe throughout their lives so I suspect he doesn't allow his wife too much freedom around their children...or at least I hope not.  Perhaps Emersyn will learn a lesson from seeing the issues in that home that will teach her a lesson for years to come because she looked like she was heading down that long, rebellious road that usually doesn't lead to a good place prior to her getting pregnant (if I remember early episodes).  Between the two sets of parents hopefully she will learn what not to do to raise your children. in a toxic environment.

Yes, I would like to know what Mason's mother did to violate her parole also because I'm kind of nosy that way.  

As far as Jason and Kylen...my only hope is that the local branch of child protective services has been put on alert and stays so far up their butts that Xavier will not be allowed so much as a bruise.  

Say negative what you want about the Kentucky girls but their children appear to be happy and thriving and well cared for.  Dee and Tiarra do not live nearby so their children may actually grow up in an environment where they might accidentally learn that you don't necessarily have to get pregnant before you are old enough to legally drive.  And family is more important than how you decorate your nursery.

I wish Jenna nothing but the best but that girl needs therapy for a long time before she gets into another relationship or else she will just be falling the same pattern over and over again.  She has a lot going for her so she has potential to break the cycle of her parents' toxic relationship but she will need professional help.

[Back Atcha]

On 6/13/2022 at 3:05 PM, Chris Knight said:

Was Loser Jason opening gum and throwing the wrapper on the ground  ? Before his belch. I cant stand that punk. The big bully with nothing to say. Too dumb to form a "closing statement ".

The "closing statement" the loser/bully demanded...and had everyone set up and waiting around for. Then he couldn't put a sentence together.

[Back Atcha]

On 6/6/2022 at 1:37 PM, Chris Knight said:

Not confirmed. I am just assuming. 

That's a BIG difference in child $upport ca$e$.  Each $tate has different guideline$.

[eskimo]

Why does Erica have her underwear in a knot about Emerson riding in a car 'one and a half weeks postpartum'?  She makes it sound like Mason's dad threw a pillowcase over Emerson' head, hog-tied her, and threw he in the back of a van.  She literally just rode in a car.  Ridiculous.  

Is there a part 3?  Because I swear I saw a teaser that the Kentucky cousins bf got someone else pregnant.   Not Alex, Noah maybe?  Did I mis-hear that?

[StatisticalOutlier]

On 6/12/2022 at 11:04 PM, Eme said:

Jason has no idea that a Closing Argument requires Words....or an Argument...or Actually not leaving a room when you have the floor.  Not surprised.  

It occurred to me that he knows the term "closing statement," but doesn't actually know what it means.  Because really, what could a closing statement in this situation consist of?

On 6/14/2022 at 9:11 AM, RoxiP said:

Yes, I would like to know what Mason's mother did to violate her parole also because I'm kind of nosy that way. 

Me too, but it's not just being nosy.  Emersyn's mom said Mason's mom went back to jail, and said it was public record. 

I don't know what constitutes parole violations, but assuming she did go back to jail, I think it would be important to know whether it was for failing to submit some paperwork or for failing a drug test or cutting off an ankle monitor. 

Remember when Emersyn's mom said Mason's mom couldn't leave the county, and Mason's mom quickly and smugly corrected her?  Where was that reaction when Emersyn's mom said Mason's mom had gone back to jail?  She didn't respond, "It was an administrative thing--I mailed my Form 4026-B on time but delivery was delayed.  It's all been fixed now."  Nope.  She didn't address the facts at all, and instead accused Emersyn's mom of being judgmental.  Who cares if she's judgmental?  What are the facts?

8 hours ago, eskimo said:

Is there a part 3?  Because I swear I saw a teaser that the Kentucky cousins bf got someone else pregnant.   Not Alex, Noah maybe?  Did I mis-hear that?

Thank you!  I saw that teaser, and I'm pretty sure it was Noah.  Yet the episode ended  without any mention of it.  And it was a big part of why I watched the episode at all.

[JeanJean]

On 6/13/2022 at 6:05 PM, Chris Knight said:

I don't think it's judgemental in a bad way to be concerned about a drug user in the home with their daughter and grandson. Even if Mason's mom is a lovely person  - not saying she is but let's give her the benefit of the doubt  - she was a drug user in the recent past. And the drugs came from somewhere,  a dealer of some sort. Dealers are not lovely people. This seems very dangerous to me, to allow a naive new mother with her newborn to live in that house. 

That's a really good point.

We just don't know any of the particulars. It could be anything from she was smoking marijuana in a state where it's still not legal to doctor-shopping for pain killers she'd needed to doing coke to cooking meth. (I somehow don't see the last one, though. 😀)

I just can't stand Emerson's mom. I find her smug and passive-aggressive. I think her hugging Kylen on camera was to make her look good.

Edited June 15, 2022 by JeanJean

[JeanJean]

4 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

Remember when Emersyn's mom said Mason's mom couldn't leave the county, and Mason's mom quickly and smugly corrected her?  Where was that reaction when Emersyn's mom said Mason's mom had gone back to jail?  She didn't respond, "It was an administrative thing--I mailed my Form 4026-B on time but delivery was delayed.  It's all been fixed now."  Nope.  She didn't address the facts at all, and instead accused Emersyn's mom of being judgmental.  Who cares if she's judgmental?  What are the facts?

Why did Emersyn's mom bring it up in the first place, though? She pretty craftily said in her passive-aggressive fashion that Mason's mom couldn't come to their house because it would violate parole. And she always addresses Sandy (is that right? Mason's mom?) very haughtily. The kids are the focus of the show, not Mason's mom. And if Mason's mom were a danger to kids (I think they have a younger daughter at home, too), the state wouldn't let her around them.

Edited June 15, 2022 by JeanJean

[Auntie Anxiety]

14 hours ago, Back Atcha said:

The "closing statement" the loser/bully demanded...and had everyone set up and waiting around for. Then he couldn't put a sentence together.

“This is your brain on drugs.”

[Auntie Anxiety]

4 hours ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

Remember when Emersyn's mom said Mason's mom couldn't leave the county, and Mason's mom quickly and smugly corrected her?  Where was that reaction when Emersyn's mom said Mason's mom had gone back to jail?  She didn't respond, "It was an administrative thing--I mailed my Form 4026-B on time but delivery was delayed.  It's all been fixed now."  Nope.  She didn't address the facts at all, and instead accused Emersyn's mom of being judgmental.

An addict and former inmate that lies? I’m shocked, SHOCKED.

[jackjill89]

On 6/15/2022 at 10:59 AM, StatisticalOutlier said:

It occurred to me that he knows the term "closing statement," but doesn't actually know what it means.  Because really, what could a closing statement in this situation consist of?

Me too, but it's not just being nosy.  Emersyn's mom said Mason's mom went back to jail, and said it was public record. 

I don't know what constitutes parole violations, but assuming she did go back to jail, I think it would be important to know whether it was for failing to submit some paperwork or for failing a drug test or cutting off an ankle monitor. 

Remember when Emersyn's mom said Mason's mom couldn't leave the county, and Mason's mom quickly and smugly corrected her?  Where was that reaction when Emersyn's mom said Mason's mom had gone back to jail?  She didn't respond, "It was an administrative thing--I mailed my Form 4026-B on time but delivery was delayed.  It's all been fixed now."  Nope.  She didn't address the facts at all, and instead accused Emersyn's mom of being judgmental.  Who cares if she's judgmental?  What are the facts?

Thank you!  I saw that teaser, and I'm pretty sure it was Noah.  Yet the episode ended  without any mention of it.  And it was a big part of why I watched the episode at all.

Jason's interpretation of "closing statement" was wanting the last word, because he always has to have the last word. When given the chance to talk, he had no clue what to say, because he wasn't arguing with anyone right at that moment. Then, he had his last word when he told the crew he was pissed because he supposedly didn't have the opportunity to have the last word. He's a piece of work. 

His dad appears to be the same, and now he doesn't know how to handle his own kid because the kid turned out just like him. 

Edited June 16, 2022 by jackjill89

[the-grey-lady]

If my son introduced himself as a "professional raw dogger," I'd change my name and flee to a monastery in Tibet.

[StatisticalOutlier]

On 6/15/2022 at 3:17 PM, Auntie Anxiety said:

An addict and former inmate that lies? I’m shocked, SHOCKED.

The thing is, she didn't even try to lie.  She just mumbled something about "facts" and changed the issue right back on Emersyn's mom being judgmental.  Whether she's judgmental or not--did Mason's mom have to go back to jail or not?  If not, say so, and Mason's mom has nothing to be judgmental about.  And if she did go back to jail, why?  Maybe Mason's mom does have something to be judgmental about. 

18 hours ago, jackjill89 said:

Jason's interpretation of "closing statement" was wanting the last word,

Aah, that makes a lot of sense.  For someone who knows everything, he sure is an idiot.

Edited June 17, 2022 by StatisticalOutlier

[Auntie Anxiety]

1 hour ago, StatisticalOutlier said:

Whether she's judgmental or not--did Mason's mom have to go back to jail or not?  If not, say so

She didn’t want to answer=the answer is “Yes.”

[Jeanne222]

[TooMuchRealityTV]

I have to say watching some of these girls makes me want to have the talk with my daughter, and she's only 9 months old. That 15 year old seems like an especially young 15. I cringe at the thought of her trying to raise a kid with that boy who is so clearly not ready for this.

Also, fun fact, I became a first time mother last year, and I'm older than the 15 year old girl's mother.

[applewood]

I watched this last night. wow. What a train wreck. I think the fifteen year old got pregnant thinking the guy would stick around. And the fifteen year old's mom said she hooked up with her husband, a 37 year old divorcee, when she was only 18! Oh, and they are from Kentucky too. Same as the family with all the T names.

Ayden is still a jerk. So, Jenna goes and gets pregnant by someone else in SC? Didn't she learn the first time?

And, later this season we get treated to more fun with Lily and Lawrence.

[IvySpice]

4 hours ago, applewood said:

Jenna goes and gets pregnant by someone else in SC? Didn't she learn the first time?

I mean...no? If she did learn anything after being on this show, she'd be the only one. Even Tyra had another kid before too long.

[heatherchandler]

Emalee had kiwi on her lunch tray, but the pieces still had the fuzzy skin on!  Do people eat that???  Was anyone else bothered by this?

[IvySpice]

I just learned that about kiwis this year! I don't know why this is so much more upsetting to me than eating a fuzzy peach. Maybe because it's brown?

[Chris Knight]

12 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

Emalee had kiwi on her lunch tray, but the pieces still had the fuzzy skin on!  Do people eat that???  Was anyone else bothered by this?

I eat the skin because it's a good source of fiber. Although I didn't learn this until I was about 50. I wouldn't expect a teen to know about this benefit. 😁

[heatherchandler]

3 hours ago, IvySpice said:

I just learned that about kiwis this year! I don't know why this is so much more upsetting to me than eating a fuzzy peach. Maybe because it's brown?

The fuzz on a peach is so fine I don’t notice it, but kiwi is like fur!

 

[lilmarysunshine]

I see Aiden still has that charming personality.

I cannot wrap my head around having a kid and just not giving a shit enough to support him or her or see him or her. (Sure seems to be common enough, though!) Even though his personality is terrible, it did seem that Aiden was willing to work to financially support his son. I guess that was short-lived. 

[Chalby]

On 5/15/2022 at 7:48 PM, For Cereals said:

Mom?  Just kidding but mine would always say the same thing.

And they instilled real respect not this BS on every show where someone gets their fillins (TM Sisterwives) hurt and says that they’ve been disrespected.  They don’t know from respect.

I've noticed that men and women view "disrespect " differently.  If a female partner argues, or doesn't agree with her mate's idea, he'll become suddenly angry, stating she's "disrespecting him". Yet women use that statement if they're ridiculed or mocked by their mate.

I don't understand the mens' definition.

On 6/6/2024 at 5:01 AM, lilmarysunshine said:

I see Aiden still has that charming personality.

I cannot wrap my head around having a kid and just not giving a shit enough to support him or her or see him or her. (Sure seems to be common enough, though!) Even though his personality is terrible, it did seem that Aiden was willing to work to financially support his son. I guess that was short-lived. 

Aidan was just an odd guy. I question if he truly wants a partner. He definitely resented and despised his baby mama. Thank goodness she tapped out. Not that I think she is without fault, God knows the both of them have serious issues with emotional Immaturity. 

Edited June 9 by Chalby

[IvySpice]

19 hours ago, Chalby said:

I don't understand the mens' definition.

The men's definition makes sense once you get that they really mean "insubordination." The women are viewing the two partners as equals. The men are viewing themselves as authority figures. You don't argue back to your grandpa/boss/drill sergeant; you obey, or else you're showing disrespect.

Of course, I have zero interest in dating a man who thinks he's my grandpa/boss/drill sergeant. I also have zero interest in forming lifelong families with people before I know if we share fundamental values. But the pickings are obviously slim for these girls.

[Poohbear617]

What I would like to know is how is Jenna paying for anything? An entire summer in myrtyl Beach, then moving to live alone on the beach? She has no job and now no child support? Who is paying for this?

[b2H]

 

What I would like to know is how is Jenna paying for anything? An entire summer in myrtyl Beach, then moving to live alone on the beach? She has no job and now no child support? Who is paying for this?

I thought I heard her say she had some kind of influencer gig going on baby and kid stuff.

[Shrek]

 

Emalee had kiwi on her lunch tray, but the pieces still had the fuzzy skin on!  Do people eat that???  Was anyone else bothered by this?

I was a produce manager for 15 years back in the UK & I have always eaten the skin on a kiwi fruit. Fiona says it's weird but there you go, you do you.

[IvySpice]

I actually have something positive to say: Dakwon is super handsome. If I were his age, I'd be giving my birth control a workout, too -- AFTER A FULL MONTH of taking it correctly.

Parents of teens, LARCs are the way to go!

I was gonna say the money for Kayleigh's car should have gone in someone's college fund, but let's not get crazy! No one in these families is going to college.

[Poohbear617]

I wish that this show would spend more time showing their lives after the baby is born rather than all the stuff before the baby is born. I mean, show them actually having to get up in the middle of the night to feed the child and changing and the day to day grind that really hits them after the baby is born. They all have the fantasies about how easy and fun it's gonna be once the child arrives, they have no idea how their lives are gonna change and isn't  that what the show is supposed to be about? Less talk and pregnancy photo shoots and more showing how hard parenting can be so maybe they think twice b4 having baby #2 in a year or so.

 

[Chalby]

On 6/10/2024 at 11:13 AM, Poohbear617 said:

What I would like to know is how is Jenna paying for anything? An entire summer in myrtyl Beach, then moving to live alone on the beach? She has no job and now no child support? Who is paying for this?

She said she makes good money on IG for posting products

[b2H]

On 6/13/2024 at 7:49 AM, Poohbear617 said:

I wish that this show would spend more time showing their lives after the baby is born rather than all the stuff before the baby is born. I mean, show them actually having to get up in the middle of the night to feed the child and changing and the day to day grind that really hits them after the baby is born. They all have the fantasies about how easy and fun it's gonna be once the child arrives, they have no idea how their lives are gonna change and isn't  that what the show is supposed to be about? Less talk and pregnancy photo shoots and more showing how hard parenting can be so maybe they think twice b4 having baby #2 in a year or so.

 

You're at the beginning of the season.  As they move through the season, the deliveries are given a lot of attention, primarily because they are all brutally hard for these children.  We are seeing a little bit of the after effects with the second or third season girl that now has two and wants to throw a huge wedding, where her baby daddy is saying no way.  It will come - patience.

[Gyproselee]

The random use of seatbelts on the drive to Myrtle Beach. Annoying and illegal.

Why buy a car for someone who has apparently never been behind the wheel?

Are any of these kids parents still together?

[RoxiP]

I think Kayleigh's parents are the original set.  Not sure about anyone else.

[For Cereals]

How many people need to be at an ultrasound?  Damn, go home and have a watch party.

[suzeecat]

On 6/17/2024 at 9:08 PM, For Cereals said:

How many people need to be at an ultrasound?  Damn, go home and have a watch party.

I'm thinking they all just wanted to get filmed so they could scream "THERE I AM ON TV" at the watch party.  They could not care less about that ultrasound. 

[Chalby]

I actually empathize with the mother of... (Sorry, brain fog made me forgot her name) the mom of LJ.

Watching him spit, push, scream etc is hard for anyone to passively watch, and her mom can'thelp but try to discipline. I don't have that same patience, but at least as a grandma, she can walk away.

Experience has also taught me that some of these former "toddler hellions" actually mature into responsible adults, so what do I know?

[Red Bridey]

Oh my lovies, I can't watch tonight's ep live as I am all in for the Stanley Cup final game (GO OILERS!) but I will record it, read all your delightful commentary, and will respond with the appropriate amount of snark when I can.

[sainte-chapelle]

3 hours ago, Red Bridey said:

Oh my lovies, I can't watch tonight's ep live as I am all in for the Stanley Cup final game (GO OILERS!) but I will record it, read all your delightful commentary, and will respond with the appropriate amount of snark when I can.

Go Oilers…tie game so far…

[sainte-chapelle]

For the 90 day people…Jenna is the same age as Madeline?!?! That Madeline seems much more intelligent.

[For Cereals]

JJ’s mom is…something 

[IvySpice]

JJ: "We've never used any protection."

Mother JJ: "Don't say that!"

IvySpice: "The problem isn't saying it! The problem is he's DOING IT! And he's clearly planning to get Jenna pregnant and lock this family down, so Grandma time is coming whether you like it or not."

I wonder what JJ's backstory is that's got him in such a hurry to be married with two kids at 19. Maybe they moved to Myrtle and away from JJ's dad so Andrea could party, and he's trying to go all Leave it to Beaver to make up for what he lost.

I agree with Mother JJ that I don't like being around undisciplined kids (looking at you, LILLY), but we haven't seen anything from Luca that raised my hackles. He got cranky on Thanksgiving with his nap time interrupted and a bunch of strangers in his house. And his fingers are sticky. These aren't even misdemeanors for a 2-year-old. Much as it pains me to praise Jenna, she seems really connected to him in a healthy way.

It's so crazy rude to show up to your own party 2+ hours late, it almost made me forget that they wasted all that money on an event they practically missed!

[zenme]

I think it’s beyond rude and inconsiderate that the guest of honor showed up late for the party, and she didn’t seem apologetic in the slightest. Rude.

[heatherchandler]

What a horrible brat!  I’m with DaeDae’s mom on this.  No games, nothing to do but sit around?  And the guest of honor doing her hair an hour into the party, with no intention to hustle up.  

[applewood]

I hate these people, yet I keep watching.

Aniah(sp)- If the party was so important to her and her mom and so much money was spent on it, why show up two hours late??

Jenna and JJ- So, this pregnancy was planned I presume? shakes head.

Andrea- yeah, she seems like a warm fuzzy. Don't expect her to help you with the baby.

Lily- If you are 22 and already have a 5 yr old and a 2 yr old you don't need a 30K wedding unless your family is loaded and it would be no problem. Just have a small wedding. They've been together for what? 3 or 4 years at this point.

Mandy, Mandy, Mandy! You dropped your child off at a house where you don't know the family for 3+ years? and you're shocked she got pregnant? Oh, someone asked how they met. I think Kayleigh said it was at a church event. It could be for some reason Kayleigh's family goes to a church in a neighboring town.

[RoxiP]

I agree with you about Mandy's cluelessness but will say that in small towns it is not uncommon for the youth groups to travel and have time with other youth groups, and there are also camps. In many small towns youth groups are some of the only social outlets for kids, especially young teens that can't drive. Obviously these two weren't in it for the Jesus!

Edited June 28 by RoxiP

[BAForever]

On 6/27/2024 at 12:03 PM, applewood said:

I hate these people, yet I keep watching.

I think we must be related @applewood. Producers hit the jackpot with Aniyah and her crew, and Andrea who obviously has never watched this shitshow and doesn't think they'll air her TH comments. 15 year old barfing boy has one foot out the door and 16 year old bike guy is on his heels. Lily, your inability to think realistically about money is staggering. One of my fave guilty pleasures.

[For Cereals]

Aniyah’s mom Ashley is just…given infant/mother mortality rates in the black community, I’m shocked with her flippant attitude about her daughter being in pain. I get it, it’s your day off, but your kid is having a kid. Love that the next “adult” in the family who will listen is a 24 year old with 3 kids of her own.

I feel bad for Becky and Graham.  I think (hope) if Kayleigh and her family knew about Becky being bipolar and what it means for Becky, they’d be more understanding.  Don’t really like the show using her struggle with mental illness as a source of drama.  I’m sure there are plenty of other issues to create drama.

How expensive can an uncontested divorce be?  I mean, Legalzoom?  Something….

Edited July 2 by For Cereals

[Poohbear617]

Has Lilly had some kind of plastic surgery ?  I I can't put my finger on it but her face looks different somehow. I know Jenna said that she had a boob job, so I figured Lily might be next as far as going around having plastic surgery.

[IvySpice]

8 hours ago, For Cereals said:

I feel bad for Becky and Graham.

Me too. Seems like this is a single mom in a sad little house with symptoms bad enough that she has to go to the hospital. Graham having to be alone with his mom's unpredictable suffering and (likely) compromised parenting...it makes sense why he is checked out and overwhelmed.

Kayleigh is just following Mother Kayleigh's model of snarking and eye-rolling on them. That's our job, Mother Kayleigh! You should be modeling (A) compassion and (B) making it work with family members your child/grandchild will need. Mr. IvySpice's family has some drama queens and people who use their (real) mental illness as an excuse for everything without pursuing treatment. We get along fine at family events. I would NEVER snark about them on TV or teach a child to do so, because I'm not trying to make a permanent rift in the family.

And on that note...maybe that's Mother Kayleigh's goal. Maybe she thinks Bekki and Graham are beneath her family, and she'd rather they steer clear.