RachelKM March 1, 2022 Share March 1, 2022 2 hours ago, sistermagpie said: Yes, her interaction with Larry was totally refreshing to me because it seemed like an actual conversation I believed somebody would be interested in. Was there sexual chemisty? Not paticularly, but that's not a bad thing for now. In m and any stories this would be exactly what sets up Larry as the true love--Raikes' sexual allure is part of what's turning Marian's head. She really hasn't ever had much of a real conversation with him--as she herself said. Yes, this. I didn't not intend to suggest I saw sexual chemistry between Marian and Larry. That would be weird since their interactions have been limited to a dog rescue and a brief conversation about his life goals in the open on the street. But Marian seems more engaged when speaking with Larry. 2 hours ago, sistermagpie said: Like I said on the other thread, I think Agnes can be wrong and right about him at the same time. He doesn't come across to me like someone who's being dishonest or using Marian like a chess piece. As Peggy says, he doesn't seem to have a plan at all. He just wants what he wants in this moment. He could want something else later. Larry doesn't have any designs on Marian whatsoever, and we already know he's got plans--the type of plans Marian can get behind, too. I have the same impression of Raikes. He's ambitious in an oddly aimless sort of way. And he does seem to like Marian. There were hints of it in the first episode when he was helping her with her father's estate. But everything about the way he has courted Marian has a self-involved thoughtless quality to it that I find off putting. Like he saw her, likes her, and she'd be lovely holding down the place of his wife in however he ascends in society. Meanwhile, Marian just seems to have taken him like a cause. She seemed completely nonplussed that he would be interested in her when he brought it up as if, until that moment, she hadn't really noticed he was a man. And she didn't seem more than academically interested in whether it was a good or bad thing that he was interested. It's like she's more wrapped up in her finding a way to pursue the relationship against Agnes's advice than she is in considering whether she's interested in him as a person. 1 hour ago, blackwing said: Question: why did Aurora and Bertha address each other as "Mrs. Russell" and "Mrs. Fane" but Aurora and Marian address each other with first names? Is it because Marian is a younger woman? Is it because they are semi-friends? I've admittedly only half listened to the exposition given as to the relationships of the Old Money crew. But I noted that Aurora referred to Agnes as "Aunt Agnes." Since I don't think she's a Brooks, she is likely Agnes's niece by marriage making Aurora nominally family to Marian. I think that explains why she has been sort of designated to help shepherd Marian through society. She is a relative of close enough age but still a married woman and somewhat senior. 1 hour ago, blackwing said: I for one find Bertha utterly unlikeable. I don't see any redeeming qualities in her at all. The way she preened when she realised that Carrie Astor was in her house. The way she preened at getting a luncheon with McAllister. She is a classic user and fake as hell. I loved when McAllister compared her house to Catherine the Great's house and the look on her face was "who da fuq is dat" and had to be rescued by Aurora. She is a pretender. I don't find Bertha unlikeable for a couple of reasons. First, she's a product of the age she's living in. Is she absurd with her rules about Gladys? Yes. But she's trying to open doors for her children and for herself that are even more absurd. I don't think she's a great person by any means. But her motivations are understandable. And she clearly loves her husband and her family. But she is determined to bulldoze her way into society and it has become rather consuming. 2 10 Link to comment
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