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  1. Roseanna

    S03.E03: Et in Arcadia

    Philip couldn't have Albert as a role model because Albert had power as he read all papers Victoria got from the government and acted as her chief counsellor. Instead, Philip had no official role, wasn't allowed to read state papers in the Red Box and was excluded from Elizabeth's meetings with Prime Minister.
  2. Roseanna

    S03.E03: Et in Arcadia

    It's partly due the laws of drama: there must be at least antogonism between two people, if there is no antogonism between them and others,
  3. Roseanna

    S03.E03: Et in Arcadia

    It's really rare that royals have been killed: Charles I of England, Louis XVI and Marie Antoinette and Nicholas II, Alexandra and their chilren. Otherwise, the the monarch just fled or was sent from the country (f.ex. in France in 1830 and 1848 and in 1918 in Germany). But lets suppose that the life of Victoria and her family would have in danger by "the anti-monarchist sentiment". It's in London they could have have been caught by the mob whereas in a distant place like Osborne they would been safe. No mob could have gone there to kill them - even if it had found a ship, Victoria could have sailed away in time.
  4. Roseanna

    S03.E03: Et in Arcadia

    Victoria said herself in the previous episode that when she inherited the crown, she decided to be loved by her people. I think it's highly significant that she didn't say that she decided to do her duty and serve her people. Cf. George V who was quite astonished how much adoration he got - at the time he had already a long reign behind him. As for Albert, among all the sychopats he is the only person who can really speak honestly to Victoria about her faults. Cf. Clementine and Winston Churchill.
  5. Roseanna

    S03.E02: London Bridge is Falling Down

    Originally, monarchs lived their lives publicly almost all the time, although there was different rooms were the access was to all, many or a few. It was Victoria and Albert who began the mode of living (semi)privately. Alix did the same in Russia, and one of the reasons why she wasn't liked was that she didn't fulfill the public duties as Tsarina.
  6. Roseanna

    S03.E02: London Bridge is Falling Down

    A good observation, Itcouldbeworse. But even if Albert had abandoned part of luxuries to feed the poor it wouldn't have solve problems of society. It was a political question. Why was Palmerston so much against the Chartists' demand of suffrage of all males? Probably because it threatened the priviledges of his class who had made laws to protect them.
  7. Roseanna

    S03.E02: London Bridge is Falling Down

    Lady Mary in Downton Abbey was a distant mother, just like aristocatic mothers were at the time (also Winston Churchill's American mother!). But she wasn't a bad mother. Instead, Victoria irl seems to have been a horrible mother, also when her children were adults.
  8. Roseanna

    History Talk: The Victorian Era

    I don't think anyone "deserves" to be murdered. As for rulers, it's not those who deliberately have murdered people usually get the punishment but weak ones like Nicholas II and Louis XVI. And killing also their spouses is due to sheer misogyny. Not that Alix and Marie Antoinette were blameless but they were hated because they were "aliens" and their reputation was deliberated destroyed with sexual charges.
  9. Roseanna

    S03.E02: London Bridge is Falling Down

    George V and his older brother, Eddy, who died young were sent to the Royal Navy as pre-teen. Later George V sent his sons Edward VIII and George VI to the Navy. That meant that they got a very limited education, but to George V it was more imortant to avoid that they wouldn't become friends with flatterers in the bording scool. In the Navy at least Edward VIII was brutally bullied.
  10. Roseanna

    S03. E05. #nothingpersonal

    Yes, the circumstances were understandable, at least in Emily's case. It was just those situations you just want to forget all the stress and worry for a moment and Aaron happened to be there. He, though, was living with Isabel and a quarrel was no excuse.
  11. Roseanna

    S03. E10. #truthorconsequence

    Why wouldn't he? Because he found himself human just as anybody else? I think the whole story was childish. Just as the idea that an outsider who becomes POTUS by chance, is virtuous and yet capable to cure any ills of society, f.ex. the slums. Also, again Kirkman said that the US is the greatest country - yet DS shows a country that lacks the basic element of a successful society: trust. Can you imagine any other Western country where a governor wouldn't trust the president who warns him of intentional epidemic but claims a president is lying to win the elections? Of course that wouldn't be a weakness in a show that was purely fantasy, but DS tries to connect elements like "an evil scientist" with a real settings.
  12. Roseanna

    S03. E10. #truthorconsequence

    I was for Aaron and Emily in S1, but since it never happened for the reason that was never explained in S2, I found Aaron and Isabel an interesting couple although they would have been more interesting if we had been shown their romance from the beginning. Somehow Isabel reminded of Alex Kirkman: she was more radical than Aaron and she didn't hide her opinions but tried to influence on him via "the kitchen way". At first it seemed that she didn't understand the political realities that Limited Aaron's action but in the end Aaron was shown to have been too cowardly, or rather thinking too much "inside the box". In short, she challenged him in a good way and made him a better man. As for Aaron's identity, since they were living together, of course it was also her business. By changing his name, Aaron had denied his roots and pretend to be somebody else whereas Isabel had chosen the harder way. I don't blame on Aaron who of course had a right to chose the method he thought was the surest way to succeed, but in the end he only succeeded in the elections because Isabel guided him to embrance his heritage and to become the champion of those who couldn't choose. It was interesting to compare the three couples in S3. In the beginning Mars and his wife seemed to have most problems: the wife was an addict, Mars had an long affair and they even admitted that he had married her in order to succeed in politics. Yet, they seemed to be happy in the end - unless Mars didn't just pretend and manipulate his wife to run because he and Kirkman needed support in the Senate. Also, concealing the HIV in the beginning of realationship seemed to be a deathknoll in the realationship, especially as it was an elemental breach of trust, but in the end the tube vizard and bodygard seemed happy too. On the surface Aaron and Isabel seemed to have least problems but it was just they who didn't succeed. Yes, he cheated her but it was only one night and it seemed he right after it repented his mistake (perhaps the greatest mistake was to confess?). I can understand Isabel's charge that "you don't take me seriously" and there was really cases Aaron didn't but there was also cases he did. Maybe it was really a difference in age and status that separated them?
  13. Roseanna

    S06.E08: The Summit

    After rewatching I find these interpretations really super. In the final season P&E seemed to different values and after Philip agreed to help Oleg, they were opponents and all seemed to build towards the confrontation between them. Philip telling Elizabeth "all" was a really big suprise. Philip took a really big risk but actually it was his best option, both to get his marriage on the right track again and to prevent whatever bad Elizabeth was ordered to do by opponents of Gorbatchow. And Philip was right: Elizabeth was understandably angry but she didn't go straightaway to Claudia to reveal Philip's "betrayal".
  14. Roseanna

    History Talk: The British Monarchy

    In the book about British and American propaganda in Finland during the Cold War Lännestä tuulee (The wind is blowing from the West) by Marek Fields there is the picture about "the young and handsome Duke of Edinburgh" among guests of honor at the opening ceremony of the Olympics in Helsinki in 1952. A newspaper wondered whether even greatest film stars from Hollywood would have got as warm and spontantous attention from people in Helsinki.
  15. Roseanna

    Stan: The Patriot

    I doubt a person can live without trusting at least somebody (if not in words them in practice). A cop must trust his/her partner, otherwise he can't act. And if one doesn't trust one's spouse, why marry at all? Of course one can be betrayed in work and marriage, but more likely one destroys one's relationship with mistrust. As for Stan, he did trust Philip nearly to the end, he trusted that his partner hadn't confessed even in torture, he trusted Renee and he trusted almost all the time Nina.
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