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S05.E10: Time's Up


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19 hours ago, Sir RaiderDuck OMS said:

The Memphis/Hamza stuff was definitely repeated, as was some of the Gino/Jasmine material. The Gino/Jasmine reconciliation was new. (Gino's continued allure to Jasmine is no doubt his Green Card, as Jasmine can make Gino grovel for YEARS over this and not have to start over again with a new man.) I might FF though the TLC version on Hulu tomorrow morning to see if once again the D+ people made a mess of the editing.

I think the reason being is that they have to fill in time for time lost with Caleb and Alina.

Ximena - no one is going to take you as a model even with a boob job, nose job, tummy tuck, the works, etc.  First, you look like you've been ridden hard and left wet.  Second, your fucking tats makes it impossible to get any work.  

Mike - get a clue man.

I can't believe after all that drama, that Jasmine and Gino made up.  I think she is auditioning for a telanova. Plus I have no pity for Jasmine. Gino did her dirty but she came down on the ex gf hard and called her all sorts of names.  Personally I would be thanking the woman warning me what a creep Gino is.

So Mahogany is real and of course she's not into creepy Ben. Best thing I saw on IG this morning is a photo of Mahogany and the caption: "Her name is Willow and she's an intern at TLC" .

Hazma is fine. Despite the fact that his mom is divorced (which I guess is a major stain on the family) I cannot believe there isn't a family member in the US that can match him up with someone in the States that is within his culture. He really wants to come to the States but I don't think Memphis is right for him.

Usman and Kim. I just cant.

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40 minutes ago, Inga said:

100% Mahogany is scammer. She is the one who sent him extremely face tuned pictures and communicated with him like that. She definitely speaks extremely fluent English. So much so, she had to remember to speak Spanish. She actually seemed like she preferred/wanted to speak English the whole time but she knew she better speak Spanish mostly. And then her trying to speak like broken English was so fake. Ben is gross but she is just so fake fake fake. She was probably like, well I’ll go and see what happens and took one look at that wonky eye and said, nope 

Could she be hired by the show?  I believe maybe half of it is real.  In this case they couldn’t find the real woman in the pics so they found a pretty actress to play her.  
 

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I'd like to give a shout out to Caleb for cutting things off instead of dragging it out just to get another season of filming in.  Although, time will tell.  These dufuses are starting to pick over everyone else's rejects. 

Kimbally is gross.  Who knew she had a cute, hunky, mature son?

Please, please PLEASE MIKE, cut your losses.  Now X is threatening not to marry until she gets her boobs done, and they look just fine how they are, BTW.  Her saying "first boobies, then try wedding dress".  Yeah, mm hmm, OK.

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9 hours ago, NJbutNoHousewife said:

Oh no, I didn't realize she had kids. How old are they? 

For Ximenas, she's just plain horrid - I feel sorry for her kids. 

Ok, I just asked my I pad about Jasmine.  She has two boys.  The oldest lives with her ex husband, and the youngest has special needs and is with her Mother somewhere in the country. 

30 minutes ago, Laurie4H said:

100% Mahogany is scammer. She is the one who sent him extremely face tuned pictures and communicated with him like that. She definitely speaks extremely fluent English. So much so, she had to remember to speak Spanish. She actually seemed like she preferred/wanted to speak English the whole time but she knew she better speak Spanish mostly. And then her trying to speak like broken English was so fake. Ben is gross but she is just so fake fake fake. She was probably like, well I’ll go and see what happens and took one look at that wonky eye and said, nope 

Me.  The moment she showed up and started talking I thought she was a scammer.  She did not look like her pics, which Ben said he will forgive, Huh?  But she seemed to cringe every time he hugged her.  He looked at her as though she were the perfect steak and he could not wait to devour her.......ewwww.

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When Ximena says she wants to be a model, I think she actually means "model" as in not a model (maybe cam girl, porn, etc.).  It looked like she slept in a separate room from Mike-she really didn't want him to come as it so interfered with her surgeries.  She has too many criminal connections for her to not be involved (IMO)-especially going to a loan shark to get money rather than, you know, actually working to get money.  She also didn't even greet her son who was on the floor when she first got up-she was able to present herself as a loving mom and potential spouse the first time Mike visited but couldn't be bothered to do so this time.

So over Jasmine and Gino.  If she had actually broken up with him I would totally be on her side, but nope, she showed her true intentions by going back to him.

Memphis looked shocked when Hazan said maybe they were rushing too much.  She complained to her foster sister that she didn't really know him and I was all "hmmmmmm, wonder why..."

And Ella, no, you haven't been waiting for the love of your life for 29 years.  For the first 6-9 years of your life I would wager you didn't even give it a thought.  So, no, not for your own life-I understand it makes you seem like a "victim" because you use your actual age, but just stop.  It's like when someone says 'I've worked for this my entire life' and it's more like they worked for it for 5-10 years. It's not the same thing.

I really, really, really wanted Ben to be stood up.  But, since he wasn't, I got the next best thing in Mahogany not really being into the relationship as much as Ben. 

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27 minutes ago, seacliffsal said:

When Ximena says she wants to be a model, I think she actually means "model" as in not a model (maybe cam girl, porn, etc.).  It looked like she slept in a separate room from Mike-she really didn't want him to come as it so interfered with her surgeries.  She has too many criminal connections for her to not be involved (IMO)-especially going to a loan shark to get money rather than, you know, actually working to get money.  She also didn't even greet her son who was on the floor when she first got up-she was able to present herself as a loving mom and potential spouse the first time Mike visited but couldn't be bothered to do so this time.

Interesting theory and possibly true. Then instead of a boobie job, she should ask for some equipment like a ring of light, camera, laptop. Would be cheaper and she can make some money.

Whatever happened to her happening career as a nail tech? 

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Ben is certainly in love with his own body. I doubt Gino has as much money as Jasmine thinks he has. Didn't he say he hadn't worked in 8-9 months? Mike is just pitiful. I certainly hope Caleb doesn't change his mind and sign up to be Alina's full time care giver...for life! Usman just might marry Kim...he wants to come to this country really badly it looks like? Does Johnny work? I wonder where Memphis lives at? Hazan might not make it for long in a big city...totally different culture than he is used to, and he doesn't work now so doubt he will in the future with no English.

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1 hour ago, Mr. Miner said:

Stinky Mike is a bumbling fucking idiot. I felt really bad for him when he first went to Colombia. If he's going to continue, she can get his last penny for all I care.

Excema was all dressed up to go out when Mike shows up but she knew the cameras were going to be there, they have to arrange things so I am sure the producer had a hand in all that.  If Excema did stay out all night Mike strikes me as the type to text and call thru out the night if she was not home by midnight or so and she would have mentioned the many calls and texts the next morning.  I don't see how Mike did not know she got home at 9am, he also strikes me as the type of person that would not be able to sleep not knowing where she was.

Did Mike every check out Exema's social media to see if there were photos from that night?  

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1 hour ago, Mr. Miner said:

Stinky Mike is a bumbling fucking idiot. I felt really bad for him when he first went to Colombia. If he's going to continue, she can get his last penny for all I care.

Mike is a moron and she’s probably a hooker.  All these poor kids with their shameful mothers.  Disgusting.  The Grandmothers bring these kids up.

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6 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

I know this is Usmans second go round. I can see an older blonde he was with before but can’t remember how far they got and how that one ended?

Aren’t there any younger American women on these dating sites or just old women?

Doesn’t Usman want a hot dancer?  He’s not all that bad so why old American women?

You mean Lisa or as she liked to be called Baby Girl Lisa aka Raw doggin!??!?

They got married. She left. The marriage was never filed in the States, she's married to some guy her own age and lost a toe. 

I think Usman's big secret next week is that he's not officially divorced from Lisa.

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4 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

I know this is Usmans second go round. I can see an older blonde he was with before but can’t remember how far they got and how that one ended?

Aren’t there any younger American women on these dating sites or just old women?

Doesn’t Usman want a hot dancer?  He’s not all that bad so why old American women?

I don’t think it’s old so much as I wonder how attracted he really is to Kimberly?  If she was a 50 something year old woman who looked like JLo I’m sure he wouldn’t hesitate to sleep with her the first night.  

I just wonder how real some of this is.  I mean most are wearing false eyelashes all day and night.  Like Ximena after and all nighter had perfect eye makeup.  

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4 minutes ago, kristen111 said:

Mike is a moron and she’s probably a hooker.  All these poor kids with their shameful mothers.  Disgusting.  The Grandmothers bring these kids up.

I could just cry for Noxemas two little boys.  They are so cute and innocent, and deserve so much better.  It’s like they are caught in a trap.  In these countries, why have children if you can’t give them a decent future and everything they deserve?  In a way, maybe it’s better if Mike stays there.  At least he will take good care of the boys.

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20 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

I know this is Usmans second go round. I can see an older blonde he was with before but can’t remember how far they got and how that one ended?

Aren’t there any younger American women on these dating sites or just old women?

Doesn’t Usman want a hot dancer?  He’s not all that bad so why old American women?

Us an must be desperate to screw an old woman, and she should be ashamed of herself.  I could throw up.  She’s not 50 either.  More like 60.

 

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2 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Kimbaaaly jumping around clapping her hands like a seal because Usman told her tonight is going to be yammie time. Then saying "I won"! She keeps saying that and it bugs the crap out of me. It's not a contest, old lady. 

I know! She acts like a 13 year old. Along with her repeating, "Really?" a hundred times with a megawatt grin. Then the "I swear to God" business. Who at 50 years old acts like that? Her son seems well-grounded though, but I can't imagine a mom raising children with her childish babble.

I'm disappointed in Usman giving her the yammy, but pleased when he told her son it's not about beauty. That's right, but saying that right in front of Kimbelly was rich. Then she kept repeating "This is crazy". Shut it - it's time to stop acting like a groupie teenager and act like a woman. How could he have gone through with that though? It was only when she threatened to end the relationship where he changed his mind and that tells me he only wants to remain relevant on American TV because there is no way he is attracted to Kimbelly on any level. He hadn't even embraced or kissed her prior to the big night - which signifies she repulses him. Usman's actions signify absolutely no love connection, period.

Another "big secret" that so many on the show hold in - I wonder what Usman's is. Hope it's a doozie.

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10 hours ago, Mrs. Landingham said:

I also got the feeling that her actions - from her very first glimpse of Ben - were totally rehearsed. I swear when she walked into the restaurant she was even making sure she hit her mark like a stage actress.

Of course she had rehearsed that scene from different angles with the camera crew several times before we saw the result. How else could there have been a totally empty restaurant with a cameras aimed at a clear view of the door for hours at a time? I remember a story in the New York Times when Tania met Syngin at the airport and she talked about filming it many times.

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2 hours ago, seacliffsal said:

And Ella, no, you haven't been waiting for the love of your life for 29 years.  For the first 6-9 years of your life I would wager you didn't even give it a thought.  So, no, not for your own life-I understand it makes you seem like a "victim" because you use your actual age, but just stop.  It's like when someone says 'I've worked for this my entire life' and it's more like they worked for it for 5-10 years. It's not the same thing.

Women on shows like The Bachelor who are 22 or 23 will frequently say they have never felt so strongly about a person in their “whole entire” life.  Their lives are just starting; how many relationships could they have had?

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29 minutes ago, kristen111 said:

 In these countries, why have children if you can’t give them a decent future and everything they deserve?

That’s true in any country.

12 minutes ago, Mr. Miner said:

I was waiting for the creep to MMMMMM! when he got the hug he had to ask for. Do you have to ask your soulmate for a hug these days?

He probably came in his pants.  All that repressed Christian lust.

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11 hours ago, Mrs. Landingham said:

Yes, 100%. When “Meowww-gny” (Ben’s rendering of her name) talked, I kept thinking she sounded American. Maybe, like Armando (from Kenny & Armando), she had schooling as a youngster that included rigorous English language development?

 

3 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Kind of like Armando of Kenny and Armando. He doesn't have a single trace of a spanish accent yet he is Mexican all the way. Amazes me. Some people just have the gift of learning another language easily.  

A lot of it depends on when you start learning the second language. As a child ages, their ability to make the specific vocal sounds required by a given language goes away if it's never used. If a child starts learning a second language by their pre-K or early grade school years, they can learn to speak it without an accent. Gene Simmons or Madeline Albright would be examples.

If a child starts learning a language in late grade school/early middle school, they'll never pass for 100% native, but they'll still learn to speak it well enough to be easily understood. 

If someone doesn't start learning the language until they're an adult, they'll always have a thick accent. Think Henry Kissinger or Desi Arnaz or Dr. Ruth Westheimer.

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42 minutes ago, greekmom said:

I think Usman's big secret next week is that he's not officially divorced from Lisa.

I think the big secret has something to do with Zara. Supposedly Kim doesn't know Sojaboy wrote a song about another (far younger and prettier) American ex when he lamely explained that "Zara" was just a name he liked for any girl. 

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3 minutes ago, magemaud said:

I think the big secret has something to do with Zara. Supposedly Kim doesn't know Sojaboy wrote a song about another (far younger and prettier) American ex when he lamely explained that "Zara" was just a name he liked for any girl. 

Possible secrets:

He’s still married to Baby Girl Lisa (kudos to whomever thought of that)

He’s married to someone else

He’s gay 

He hates Michael Jackson

He’s not a superstar 

He has massive debt

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22 minutes ago, Gobi said:

Possible secrets:

He’s still married to Baby Girl Lisa (kudos to whomever thought of that)

He’s married to someone else

He’s gay 

He hates Michael Jackson

He’s not a superstar 

He has massive debt

I know for a fact he is still married to Lisa. She said so herself in a podcast that he hasn't proceeded with the divorce in Nigeria. She also is now married to someone else as she never recognized the marriage to Usman in the US.

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3 hours ago, Shelbie said:

In that final hug by the car Mahogany looked like she was hugging the father of one her friends who just paid for dinner. Didn’t know how to refuse so barely did it out of politeness.

If you watch that cringe-worthy hug closely, it looks like she finally uses her shoulder to push against him to make him break the hold.  

Ugh.  I had this happen once and I literally stepped on the dude's foot to make him break the hold so I could step back.

And how "worldly" is Ben that the moron didn't even know what an empanada was?  I'm gathering Mahogany must have ordered for both of them.  

I said this in live chat, but I'm hoping Jasmine is playing nice with Gino so she can bleed him dry financially and then bounce on him like a bad check.  

Ella becomes more like Whitney Way Thore with each episode.  And I'm not referring to her weight, I'm referring to her selfish asshole personality.  She's been talking and sex-camming with Johnny for how long, but during a raging pandemic, she decides it's now or never to meet him and doesn't even give a flying fuck that he would require a total of 7 weeks of quarantining just to provide her with some dick for 2 weeks.  She's rapidly rising to my "insufferable" list of these people.  

Ximena wanting to be a model made me laugh almost as much as I did with Jasmine ripping off Gino's hat.  Girl, please.  I gotta give it up to her for her "first the boobs, then the wedding dress" shenanigans.  I just hope moronic Mike doesn't fall for it.  He needs to pay more attention to the advice his father and grandfather are giving him.  Cut her off and run far, far away. 

Let her "loan shark" (AKA new sugar daddy) pay for that shit.  Plus if she already secured the funds to pay for the supposedly scheduled surgeries, why is she still scheming to get Mike to pay for them?  Obviously a rhetorical question.  

Spoiler

I know they've apparently broken up at this point, but I'm hoping she didn't get his last penny and he didn't pay for her surgeries.  

Now I'm waiting for next week's episode to see which of these couples implode before our eyes.

Happy Monday, fellow posters!  

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1 hour ago, Mr. Miner said:

I was waiting for the creep to MMMMMM! when he got the hug he had to ask for. Do you have to ask your soulmate for a hug these days?

It looked like an awkward dad asking his mortified teen daughter for a hug in front of her friends. She’s fake, but at least she doesn’t creep me out. Ben consists entirely of creepiness and grossness. Deplorable swine.

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In that final hug by the car Mahogany looked like she was hugging the father of one her friends who just paid for dinner. Didn’t know how to refuse so barely did it out of politeness.

Bingo. Better analogy than mine.

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Kudos to someone who said it better.
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4 minutes ago, Persnickety1 said:

If you watch that cringe-worthy hug closely, it looks like she finally uses her shoulder to push against him to make him break the hold.  

Ugh.  I had this happen once and I literally stepped on the dude's foot to make him break the hold so I could step back.

And how "worldly" is Ben that the moron didn't even know what an empanada was?  I'm gathering Mahogany must have ordered for both of them.  

I said this in live chat, but I'm hoping Jasmine is playing nice with Gino so she can bleed him dry financially and then bounce on him like a bad check.  

Ella becomes more like Whitney Way Thore with each episode.  And I'm not referring to her weight, I'm referring to her selfish asshole personality.  She's been talking and sex-camming with Johnny for how long, but during a raging pandemic, she decides it's now or never to meet him and doesn't even give a flying fuck that he would require a total of 7 weeks of quarantining just to provide her with some dick for 2 weeks.  She's rapidly rising to my "insufferable" list of these people.  

Ximena wanting to be a model made me laugh almost as much as I did with Jasmine ripping off Gino's hat.  Girl, please.  I gotta give it up to her for her "first the boobs, then the wedding dress" shenanigans.  I just hope moronic Mike doesn't fall for it.  He needs to pay more attention to the advice his father and grandfather are giving him.  Cut her off and run far, far away. 

Let her "loan shark" (AKA new sugar daddy) pay for that shit.  Plus if she already secured the funds to pay for the supposedly scheduled surgeries, why is she still scheming to get Mike to pay for them?  Obviously a rhetorical question.  

  Reveal spoiler

I know they've apparently broken up at this point, but I'm hoping she didn't get his last penny and he didn't pay for her surgeries.  

Now I'm waiting for next week's episode to see which of these couples implode before our eyes.

Happy Monday, fellow posters!  

where is live chat?  i looked last night but couldn't find it

2 minutes ago, jaybird2 said:

where is live chat?  i looked last night but couldn't find it

Hopefully this link will take you there.  I don't get to do live chat very often, but even the next day the snark is pure gold to read.  

https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/121883-90df-live-chat-3-i-gave-up-everything-to-be-here/page/393/?tab=comments#comment-7304977

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15 minutes ago, Persnickety1 said:

She's been talking and sex-camming with Johnny for how long, but during a raging pandemic, she decides it's now or never to meet him and doesn't even give a flying fuck that he would require a total of 7 weeks of quarantining just to provide her with some dick for 2 weeks. 

The funny thing is that she isn’t willing to give the ultimatum of breaking up just that she would want an open relationship.  She isn’t going to break up when she has few options.

16 minutes ago, Persnickety1 said:

during a raging pandemic

To be fair most of Idaho was pretending there was no pandemic.

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4 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

The funny thing is that she isn’t willing to give the ultimatum of breaking up just that she would want an open relationship.  She isn’t going to break up when she has few options.

Precisely.  She's acting like she has menfolk lined up at her door in an attempt to manipulate Johnny into going to Dubai.  

I'd have told her, "Do what you have to do and I'll do what I have to do" and disconnected the chat (but I'm old and mean).  

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5 hours ago, bichonblitz said:

Kimbaaaly jumping around clapping her hands like a seal because Usman told her tonight is going to be yammie time. Then saying "I won"! She keeps saying that and it bugs the crap out of me. It's not a contest, old lady. 

She is absurd. If the roles were reversed with him begging, whining, and demanding sex and then celebrating when on the brink of actual coitus, I’d consider him a damn predator. She is no better. I don’t care how much of a scam Usman is. Hell, I crucified Big Ed for his obsessive build up to his first sexual encounter with Rose and I wanted to sling him up into the ceiling fan when he did a victory dance when she went into the bathroom to ready herself. Kim’s behavior is absolutely vile. 

And her idea of foreplay was to Zoom with her son? What in the actual shit? I guess we can add Jamal to the 90 Day Offspring Support Group that consists of castmembers’ kids who have more sense than their parents. 

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The scene with Ben and Mahogany reminded me of "The Golden Girls" episode where Rose was going through a dating slump and she began receiving letters from an ardent suitor named Isaac Newton. Blanche and Dorothy who were actually writing the letters. Rose wants to meet Isaac so she looks him up in the phone book and invites him to be her date to a charity ball. Of course, Isaac has no idea what Rose is talking about when she refers to the letters he supposedly wrote to her.

Ben is being Isaac Newtoned.

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1 minute ago, Mrs. Landingham said:

She is absurd. If the roles were reversed with him begging, whining, and demanding sex and then celebrating when on the brink of actual coitus, I’d consider him a damn predator. She is no better. I don’t care how much of a scam Usman is. Hell, I crucified Big Ed for his obsessive build up to his first sexual encounter with Rose and I wanted to sling him up into the ceiling fan when he did a victory dance when she went into the bathroom to ready herself. Kim’s behavior is absolutely vile. 

And her idea of foreplay was to Zoom with her son? What in the actual shit? I guess we can add Jamal to the 90 Day Offspring Support Group that consists of castmembers’ kids who have more sense than their parents. 

I agree 100%.

I'd like to add that Jamal must look like his father because that guy is smokin' hot.  

More Jamal, less of his mother, please, TLC.  

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1 minute ago, mmecorday said:

The scene with Ben and Mahogany reminded me of "The Golden Girls" episode where Rose was going through a dating slump and she began receiving letters from an ardent suitor named Isaac Newton. Blanche and Dorothy who were actually writing the letters. Rose wants to meet Isaac so she looks him up in the phone book and invites him to be her date to a charity ball. Of course, Isaac has no idea what Rose is talking about when she refers to the letters he supposedly wrote to her.

Ben is being Isaac Newtoned.

“How do you spell Saskatchewan?” One of my favorite GG episodes, ever.

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2 hours ago, Breedom said:

He hadn't even embraced or kissed her prior to the big night - which signifies she repulses him.

to me it appeared as though he was psyching himself up to have sex with her...no real desire.  

1 hour ago, magemaud said:

Is there some kind of shame or desperation attached to being all of 29 and still haven't met the right guy? 

well, it's a matter of finding a guy, having the relationship, getting married and having children.  it all takes time and by 29 you are feeling the pressure....and that is if it all goes well.  if you add fertility problems on top of it (speaking from experience) then you have even less time to get things squared away.  If you want a bio family then time certainly is a factor.  

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2 minutes ago, mmecorday said:

The scene with Ben and Mahogany reminded me of "The Golden Girls" episode where Rose was going through a dating slump and she began receiving letters from an ardent suitor named Isaac Newton. Blanche and Dorothy who were actually writing the letters. Rose wants to meet Isaac so she looks him up in the phone book and invites him to be her date to a charity ball. Of course, Isaac has no idea what Rose is talking about when she refers to the letters he supposedly wrote to her.

Ben is being Isaac Newtoned.

Yeah, I'm handwaving the filtered photos she sent him.  While she obviously tweaked the photos, she's still a beautiful young lady whom Ben couldn't get in America no matter how hard he tried because she's so far out of his league.  

It's not like she was anywhere near Rebecca's level of deception with her filtered photos and magic ring lighting that she used with Zied.  Hell, Rebecca filtered herself to the point of requiring dental records to identify her.  

I have no idea why Mahogany filtered her photos, though.  She's a beautiful girl.  Then again, some of my very attractive friends use these filters on Facebook and I've no clue why.  Maybe it's just fun for them?

 

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5 hours ago, kristen111 said:

Ok, I just asked my I pad about Jasmine.  She has two boys.  The oldest lives with her ex husband, and the youngest has special needs and is with her Mother somewhere in the country. 

Reminds me of batshit crazy Larissa who left her 2 kids in Brazil, one with her ex and I think one with her dad so she could come to the US to marry Colt. Now that I know this about Jasmine I think she is just as much of a loser as she claims Gino is. Disgusting trash to make finding a "rich" American your full time job instead of taking care of your children. These women make me sick. I'm surprised Xemina still has her kids. 

When I first saw Hamza I didn't think much of his looks but he has grown on me. He is one handsome dude! Now there is someone that should seek a modeling career. He's almost too old at this point, though. They like to start them young in the modeling world, like around 18. For that matter, aside from not being pretty enough, Xemina is too old, too. Also, I call bullshit on her being 24. 

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