2020 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp

[Spunkyyy]

I feel like they need to choose all 3rd year girls as second leaders so they better prepped to be a first group leader in a future year. Otherwise, after this year if many of the 4/5 year girls retire, you will have the current 3rd years becoming first leaders without ever being a second leader. While this happened in the past, I’m sure it’s not preferred. 

[dreamcatcher]

46 minutes ago, Spunkyyy said:

I feel like they need to choose all 3rd year girls as second leaders so they better prepped to be a first group leader in a future year. Otherwise, after this year if many of the 4/5 year girls retire, you will have the current 3rd years becoming first leaders without ever being a second leader. While this happened in the past, I’m sure it’s not preferred. 

I’ve never paid much attention to this, so other than Maddie who went straight to GL because Kelli sucks and didn’t want to give it to heather who already had the experience, how often do girls just go straight to GL?

I do agree that 2GL should be girls who will probably stay on, as well as having the skills to step up. It’s not only that the current 4th years may not come back because let’s be real, if They get 2GL of course they’ll be back especially after a short season since they’d be pretty much guaranteed GLs? but i don’t think Kelli would want any of them sticking around other than the “appeal” of having a 5th year on the team. Let the 3rd years shine considering that we have so many girls to choose from for once!

[DCC-UK]

1 hour ago, DutchDccFan2.0 said:

They left out Kelsey Bond as only 4th year without a role while Danielle, Jenna, Kinzie and Jessica were made sexond leaders in 2015 season altho all 2nd leaders were 4th years

I forgot about that! I always liked Kelsey because of her goofy sense of humour. Maybe she had a demanding day job? I wonder if K+J look poorly on girls if they decline leadership/SG due to their job outside of DCC? 

[Spunkyyy]

27 minutes ago, dreamcatcher said:

I’ve never paid much attention to this, so other than Maddie who went straight to GL because Kelli sucks and didn’t want to give it to heather who already had the experience, how often do girls just go straight to GL?

I do agree that 2GL should be girls who will probably stay on, as well as having the skills to step up. It’s not only that the current 4th years may not come back because let’s be real, if They get 2GL of course they’ll be back especially after a short season since they’d be pretty much guaranteed GLs? but i don’t think Kelli would want any of them sticking around other than the “appeal” of having a 5th year on the team. Let the 3rd years shine considering that we have so many girls to choose from for once!

2019 GLs - Maddie (never 2GL), kashara (2GL for Erica until Erica was released then moved to GL), Tess (previous 2GL), Amy (previous 2GL) 

2018 GLs - Kashara, Lacey (previous 2GL), Amy, Maddie 

2017- Kashara, Jenna (previous 2GL), Lacey, Jinelle 

So it’s definitely more common than not that GLs were previously a 2GL first. 

[DutchDccFan2.0]

55 minutes ago, DCC-UK said:

I forgot about that! I always liked Kelsey because of her goofy sense of humour. Maybe she had a demanding day job? I wonder if K+J look poorly on girls if they decline leadership/SG due to their job outside of DCC? 

Kelsey was so funny. They were in the luxery of having 5 great 4th years that year

Edited August 17, 2020 by DutchDccFan2.0

[Kitkatkitty]

Ok I've looked through past GLs and in the last 5 years the only girls that were 1st leaders without being 2nd leaders are KaShara and Maddie. KaShara got promoted when Erica screwed up, and Maddie basically got that position because of the whole Heather thing, otherwise I bet she would have been Heather's second. So unless there is some drama, Maddie, Lexie, Tess, and Gina will be the 1st leaders based on what they have previously done.

2015-2016:

1. Holly and Danielle
2. Jacie and Kinzie
3. Jessica and Jennifer
4. Angela and Jenna

2016-2017:

1. Jennifer and Melissa
2. Danielle and Lacey
3. Jenna and Jinelle
4. Jessica and Erica

2017-2018:

1. Jenna and Amy
2. Jinelle and Bess
3. Lacey and Robin
4. KaShara and Heather (had been Erica)

2018-2019:

1. Lacey and Tasha
2. KaShara and Khalyn
3. Amy and Tess
4. Maddie and Kelli

2019-2020:

1. Amy and Miranda
2. Maddie and Lexie
3. Heather and Alexis
4. Tess and Gina

My predictions for 2020-2021 (or some combo of):

1. Maddie and Amber
2. Lexie and Rachel A
3. Tess and Caroline
4. Gina and Ashlee

Other potential seconds that wouldn't surprise me: Briana, Brennan, Rachel W, Daphne 

[Spunkyyy]

8 minutes ago, Kitkatkitty said:

Ok I've looked through past GLs and in the last 5 years the only girls that were 1st leaders without being 2nd leaders are KaShara and Maddie. KaShara got promoted when Erica screwed up, and Maddie basically got that position because of the whole Heather thing, otherwise I bet she would have been Heather's second. So unless there is some drama, Maddie, Lexie, Tess, and Gina will be the 1st leaders based on what they have previously done.

2015-2016:

1. Holly and Danielle
2. Jacie and Kinzie
3. Jessica and Jennifer
4. Angela and Jenna

2016-2017:

1. Jennifer and Melissa
2. Danielle and Lacey
3. Jenna and Jinelle
4. Jessica and Erica

2017-2018:

1. Jenna and Amy
2. Jinelle and Bess
3. Lacey and Robin
4. KaShara and Heather (had been Erica)

2018-2019:

1. Lacey and Tasha
2. KaShara and Khalyn
3. Amy and Tess
4. Maddie and Kelli

2019-2020:

1. Amy and Miranda
2. Maddie and Lexie
3. Heather and Alexis
4. Tess and Gina

My predictions for 2020-2021 (or some combo of):

1. Maddie and Amber
2. Lexie and Rachel A
3. Tess and Caroline
4. Gina and Ashlee

Other potential seconds that wouldn't surprise me: Briana, Brennan, Rachel W, Daphne 

Thank you for putting this together!!! The only other example I could think of that is just outside the 5 years is Holly A. She became a GL without being a 2GL. I agree, that group leaders will be Maddie, Tess, Gina, and Lexie based on previous logic TPTB use. 

[aimeelou625]

5 hours ago, TexasLonghorn94 said:

I tried to look in the background of Kat's log for Rookies as it seemed like she had a lot more people in the backgrounds of hers in comparison to the previous vlogs, but couldn't pick anyone out.

I wonder if we will get any more Boots in the Bubble, or if Kashara is not returning to the bubble. I guess she could host the podcasts from anywhere, though.

I saw Darian in the back ground of one of Kat’s videos!

[DutchDccFan2.0]

So I also made a formation with the current veterans. I made it baised on my own personal preference but also included past places, tenure with some and etc. If it was fully my only opinion Rachel A would not be so far in the back and Maddie and Gina wouldnt be second and 3rd rows 😂

I also tried to mix haircolours

Edited August 18, 2020 by DutchDccFan2.0

[TexasLonghorn94]

21 minutes ago, DutchDccFan2.0 said:

So I also made a formation with the current veterans. I made it baised on my own personal preference but also included past places, tenure with some and etc. If it was fully my only opinion Rachel A would not be so far in the back and Maddie and Gina wouldnt be second and 3rd rows 😂

I also tried to mix haircolours

I like it! I would maybe switch either Brennan or Savannah with Chandi or Kelcey for hair color purposes.

[lemonbus230]

Anyone else find it odd (I really shouldn’t, but I do), that Kelli and Judy know that Kat is sleeping with a member of the football team and they have chosen to overlook it, since they think she’s one of the most beautiful on the team? Meredith may not have been on of the strongest dancers on the team, but the girls loved her as a person and would trade Kat for Meredith any day. I just find it amazing how they continually make exceptions for some and not others.

[Holly85]

5 minutes ago, lemonbus230 said:

Anyone else find it odd (I really shouldn’t, but I do), that Kelli and Judy know that Kat is sleeping with a member of the football team and they have chosen to overlook it, since they think she’s one of the most beautiful on the team? Meredith may not have been on of the strongest dancers on the team, but the girls loved her as a person and would trade Kat for Meredith any day. I just find it amazing how they continually make exceptions for some and not others.

Who is she sleeping with 

[Cj1]

23 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

Who is she sleeping with 

I just hope this was not made up by a "Meridith" fan after learning she was cut.

[kalibean]

Follow the contract...but if you don’t, be a Paige. Not a Jenna. (And especially not a Holly.) 

ETA: For what it’s worth, I think the rule against fraternization is archaic AF. If a player and a cheerleader date, treat it like any responsible workplace romance. Proceed with caution, disclose when necessary and go on about your business. The contract could specify all of this and just avoid a heap of drama. Dallas is a small town and the pretty people tend to congregate in a handful of the same places. There’s gonna be some overlap. Sigh. 

Edited August 18, 2020 by kalibean

[lemonbus230]

16 minutes ago, Cj1 said:

I just hope this was not made up by a "Meridith" fan after learning she was cut.

Meredith deserved to get cut. They gave her a shot last year and she failed. You win some you lose some. I just used Meredith as an example because she’s the only vet that’s been cut.
 

There’s a reason Kat isn’t as close with girls like Amanda anymore. They didn’t want to get caught up in her mess.

Everyone on the team knows and is upset because she has gotten away with it. Even after it’s been brought to all staffs members.

[TexasLonghorn94]

Removing screenshot

Edited August 18, 2020 by TexasLonghorn94

[Jezlyn]

1 hour ago, lemonbus230 said:

Meredith deserved to get cut. They gave her a shot last year and she failed. You win some you lose some. I just used Meredith as an example because she’s the only vet that’s been cut.
 

There’s a reason Kat isn’t as close with girls like Amanda anymore. They didn’t want to get caught up in her mess.

Everyone on the team knows and is upset because she has gotten away with it. Even after it’s been brought to all staffs members.

So who's the player then.

I think it also depends if they are fraternizing with, a face of the team like Zeke which is who Holly was rumored to be hooking up with or a lesser known but solid player which was Paige and Heath, and possibly Chantel and Dan (not sure on their exact timeline). If they are a major face of the team there is a much higher risk factor around the perception and look for the organisation.

[Holly85]

7 minutes ago, Jesiklyn said:

So who's the player then.

I think it also depends if they are fraternizing with, a face of the team like Zeke which is who Holly was rumored to be hooking up with or a lesser known but solid player which was Paige and Heath, and possibly Chantel and Dan (not sure on their exact timeline). If they are a major face of the team there is a much higher risk factor around the perception and look for the organisation.

Chantel and Dan didn’t come out til after he was cut from the team and she retired she had met  him way before she was a dcc she had known him for 11 years 

Edited August 18, 2020 by Holly85

[loveaux]

12 hours ago, go4luca said:

You know I adore you girl but this is one time I have a varying opinion (and that's okay!).  I really had hoped Tess would have retired last year.  She bores me to tears and I think there are far stronger ladies to be a GL.

cue me in my shocked bag!!!!

I definitely agree about being GL. there are some 3rd even 2nd years I'd put over Tess being GL, I just think she's pretty to look at, in my Kelli voice

[Lona]

On 8/15/2020 at 7:36 AM, aimeelou625 said:

And oh my goodness if Savannah made show group I will cry!  Love her personality and as a DCC, but, there are much stronger dancers on the team.

For some odd reason I think that when/if Savannah ever makes Show Group, she'll retire. Like, they'll have a whole "emotional" scene about how she's always wanted to be on SG, and then she'll retire.Like a CMT storyline. I feel that that's what CMT/TPTB was trying to do last year, but Rachel A. REALLY improved out of nowhere so they couldn't justify giving Savannah the spot. Not saying it would be "justified" anyways, but whatevs ... Like I said, just a weird feeling lol ;).

But yeah I agree she seems like a really nice person and teammate, just not someone I'd put on Show Group ahead of a Briana, Erin, Jalyn or some of the newer ones like Chandi or Kat. As for the current crop? Wouldn't put her ahead of any of them. Maybe Victoria or Tess? I dunno. People were talking about Cianna being cut from SG, but IMO I think that'd be the wrong decision. I personally find her dancing attractive and well enough to stay on.

🤷‍♂️

[lemonbus230]

3 hours ago, Jesiklyn said:

So who's the player then.

I think it also depends if they are fraternizing with, a face of the team like Zeke which is who Holly was rumored to be hooking up with or a lesser known but solid player which was Paige and Heath, and possibly Chantel and Dan (not sure on their exact timeline). If they are a major face of the team there is a much higher risk factor around the perception and look for the organisation.

It doesn’t matter who it is. She has a contract and she broke her contract. Multiple times. 

[Jezlyn]

23 minutes ago, lemonbus230 said:

It doesn’t matter who it is. She has a contract and she broke her contract. Multiple times. 

Yes you have said that. But the player does matter cause TPTB retract differently depending on the player.

While I agree they have a contract and should abide by it, there does appear to be evidence that if it's not a team superstar they are more likely to turn a blind eye. 

[Bigorangecatmom]

I think the rule about not dating players is silly. As we have seen, time after time, the players and the cheerleaders WILL date, rule or not. Why not acknowledge the reality and update contracts, policies accordingly? And while I am on my soapbox, the cheerleaders penalized for dating players but are the players ever penalized for dating cheerleaders? 

[Bigorangecatmom]

 

3 hours ago, Lona said:

For some odd reason I think that when/if Savannah ever makes Show Group, she'll retire. Like, they'll have a whole "emotional" scene about how she's always wanted to be on SG, and then she'll retire.Like a CMT storyline. I feel that that's what CMT/TPTB was trying to do last year, but Rachel A. REALLY improved out of nowhere so they couldn't justify giving Savannah the spot. Not saying it would be "justified" anyways, but whatevs ... Like I said, just a weird feeling lol ;).
 

I agree, this seems like a very DCC storyline. However, I think that Savannah has earned a spot in Show Group, not for dancing but because she is skilled at working with veterans. She would be great at a USO tour. Keep in mind, I think that show group is just another storyline. Everyone on the team is talented. Send the power dancers to TV appearances, and the more fan friendly DCCs to military events. 

[jlc]

31 minutes ago, Bigorangecatmom said:

I think the rule about not dating players is silly. As we have seen, time after time, the players and the cheerleaders WILL date, rule or not. Why not acknowledge the reality and update contracts, policies accordingly? And while I am on my soapbox, the cheerleaders penalized for dating players but are the players ever penalized for dating cheerleaders? 

Ii am not 100% sure, but I am pretty sure that not dating a cheerleader is not part of the players contract, but I am VERY sure it is part of the cheerleaders contract, so why would the players be disciplined? Yes, it is a dumb rule, especially since there seems to be someone every year that gets caught, but it is a rule designed to protect the girls, especially the young 18 year olds that make the team. 

[Lexusprincess]

I hope this is pure speculation Savannah vs. Rachel A for show group. Rachel A became a much spunkier, sassier dancer last year and earned her way to show group.  Watching Boots in the bubble, Rachel A can talk compared to Savannah.  They need some people on show group that can handle a mike.  I love Maddie but that is not her strength.  Rachel A is also a tumbler.  I believe Savannah's background being a military "brat" she would be great for a USO function but Savannah is not show group material at all.  Savannah is a sweet teammate but not the best dancer at all or second group leader material because I cannot see anyone following her or her ability to call out dances  Rachel A was captain of her cheerleading squad her senior year and that squad won Nationals.  

It's sad to think of 2 vets from last year not making show group.  Cianna is a great dancer but has struggled with her weight her entire tenure.  Daphne did not have a great audition last year.  I wish some insider would just spill the beans on show group and group leaders.  GL I guess Maddie, Tess, Lexie, and Gina.  Ashlee has a good shot for second.  I also would like to see Amber, Rachel A, and Caroline.

Both Rachels for show group........

As to if Kat is dating a football player, she should be treated the same.  Kat is funny and gorgeous however not the best dancer and breaking the rules is breaking the rules.  I suspect they will hang on to Kat because she is a fan fav.  

[Agent Gully]

18 minutes ago, Bigorangecatmom said:

I think the rule about not dating players is silly. As we have seen, time after time, the players and the cheerleaders WILL date, rule or not. Why not acknowledge the reality and update contracts, policies accordingly? And while I am on my soapbox, the cheerleaders penalized for dating players but are the players ever penalized for dating cheerleaders? 

I don't know for sure, but I would say that players are not penalized. The rationale would be that they are worth more than a cheerleader who can easily be replaced. (not saying I agree!) Non-fraternization is not an NFL rule, each franchise decides for themselves. I don't know the rules for every franchise, but I do know that on some, a cheerleader can't follow a player on social media nor can they even ask for an autograph. The thought being that they are there to do a job, not snag a rich hubby.

In terms of what Kat may or may not be doing, I have no clue. Heck, I don't even know what my own feline cats are doing at any moment!

As to GL 1 and GL 2 possibilities,  If it were my team, I would have two GL's per group with equal standing. One would have great dance skills, teaching ability, and musicality; the other would have good listening, comforting and advising skills with a firm understanding of what is and is not allowed. For me, Brennan, Maddie, and Savannah would be great in the role of the advisor/"mom", while gals like Gina, Caroline, and Jalyn are well suited to the dancer/teacher role.

[lemonbus230]

6 minutes ago, jlc said:

Ii am not 100% sure, but I am pretty sure that not dating a cheerleader is not part of the players contract, but I am VERY sure it is part of the cheerleaders contract, so why would the players be disciplined? Yes, it is a dumb rule, especially since there seems to be someone every year that gets caught, but it is a rule designed to protect the girls, especially the young 18 year olds that make the team. 

This. I agree that it’s a dumb rule, but it’s a rule. A rule that every single person on the team knows.
 

And it’s inappropriate for me name the player because he has a gf that is an innocent party in this. But yes, he is a star player.
 

The fact of the matter is that Kat was sleeping with a player, everyone is very aware, she hasn’t been cut, and instead of cutting her, Kelli and Judy are cutting (and/or trying to cut) other veterans. The double standard is amazing.

[Pau84]

Kat is a wonderful DCC and we should be very happy to have her on the squad.

Me being happy: 😃

[BullInChina]

17 minutes ago, lemonbus230 said:

The fact of the matter is that Kat was sleeping with a player, everyone is very aware, she hasn’t been cut, and instead of cutting her, Kelli and Judy are cutting (and/or trying to cut) other veterans. The double standard is amazing.

Why shouldn't they have a double standard if they want? The making of a cheerleading squad, while very interesting (that's why we're here!), is not particularly important in the grand scheme of things. They're just picking 36 women to dance around on a football field in skimpy outfits. Personally I try not to get too emotionally invested in the idea of Fairness for an activity that is designed to make more gazillions for gazillionaires. 

[lemonbus230]

@BullInChina I actually love that last sentence. 
 

And just to clarify, my double standards comment is in relation to girls on the team and not the ones that the players are held to.

[TB12]

9 hours ago, lemonbus230 said:

Meredith deserved to get cut. They gave her a shot last year and she failed. You win some you lose some. I just used Meredith as an example because she’s the only vet that’s been cut.
 

There’s a reason Kat isn’t as close with girls like Amanda anymore. They didn’t want to get caught up in her mess.

Everyone on the team knows and is upset because she has gotten away with it. Even after it’s been brought to all staffs members.

Hmmm I wonder if that's why Kelcey is no longer rooming with Kat??? If someone can, will you please PM me the tea on the Kat/player situation!!! :-)

[lemonbus230]

5 minutes ago, TB12 said:

Hmmm I wonder if that's why Kelcey is no longer rooming with Kat??? If someone can, will you please PM me the tea on the Kat/player situation!!! 🙂

Ding ding ding.

[Jess14]

The DCCs’ selective enforcement has always been problematic. This isn’t new or specific to Kat. However, I really don’t care who is voluntarily sleeping with or dating who. The fact that there is a rule stopping two adults, who do not in any way report to each other at work and are not even subject to the same work rules, from having a consensual relationship bothers me more than whatever Kat and this player are doing. 
 

[RedDelicious]

U/O.  I agree with the no fraternization rule.  I don't think it's fair that the players don't have some form of punishment but I do believe it is for the safety and good of the women on the team.  I see it as a football team of highly competitive and highly powerful 200-300 pound men versus a cheerleading team of young women, primarily in their 20s and some under 21, weighing in at, what, 115 pounds.  It's an imbalance of power and strength and the rule is to keep the women out of potentially unsafe situations.  With the rule in place, it protects the women and the team as a whole.  If contract rules are being broken by individuals on the squad, it protects the organization against legal action if something untoward were to happen.  The organization can create almost any rule they want.  If the women sign the contract at the beginning of training camp, they should follow the rules.  If there is a double standard, so be it.  It is somewhat of a moot point of whether it is fair.  It is up to the women to decide what they are willing to sacrifice for the privilege of wearing the uniform.

[LonghornLove]

1 hour ago, Lexusprincess said:

I hope this is pure speculation Savannah vs. Rachel A for show group. Rachel A became a much spunkier, sassier dancer last year and earned her way to show group.  Watching Boots in the bubble, Rachel A can talk compared to Savannah.  They need some people on show group that can handle a mike.  I love Maddie but that is not her strength.  Rachel A is also a tumbler.  I believe Savannah's background being a military "brat" she would be great for a USO function but Savannah is not show group material at all.  Savannah is a sweet teammate but not the best dancer at all or second group leader material because I cannot see anyone following her or her ability to call out dances  Rachel A was captain of her cheerleading squad her senior year and that squad won Nationals.  

It's sad to think of 2 vets from last year not making show group.  Cianna is a great dancer but has struggled with her weight her entire tenure.  Daphne did not have a great audition last year.  I wish some insider would just spill the beans on show group and group leaders.  GL I guess Maddie, Tess, Lexie, and Gina.  Ashlee has a good shot for second.  I also would like to see Amber, Rachel A, and Caroline.

Both Rachels for show group........

As to if Kat is dating a football player, she should be treated the same.  Kat is funny and gorgeous however not the best dancer and breaking the rules is breaking the rules.  I suspect they will hang on to Kat because she is a fan fav.  

Geez guys, Savannah is not some incompetent fool. She was ROTY, and last year she was a top scoring vet at auditions with all Y’s and no M’s or N’s. I would like to think that she has learned some things/improved in the 3 years she’s been on this team. It’s not rocket science, I think she could manage leading the same dances she’s been doing over and over again for 3 years. But that’s just me!

[SamShmam]

I know some don't care for Savannah, and I get it, but I personally don't mind her.

In fact, she's one that stands out to me as memorable. Like when you walk into a party where you don't know anyone and you see the face of that basic chick you used to work with who you didn't love but you didn't hate and you're relieved to at least know somebody there. so you feel 35% closer to her. The DCC have been getting less and less memorable to me over the past couple of years and I really WANT to like them, so I'll take what I can get.

This statement fully excludes Dracula, Renfield and Maddie the leprechaun woodsprite, as I will always detest them with the heat of a thousand burning suns.

Edited August 18, 2020 by SamShmam
hatred clarification

[jlc]

33 minutes ago, Jess14 said:

The DCCs’ selective enforcement has always been problematic. This isn’t new or specific to Kat. However, I really don’t care who is voluntarily sleeping with or dating who. The fact that there is a rule stopping two adults, who do not in any way report to each other at work and are not even subject to the same work rules, from having a consensual relationship bothers me more than whatever Kat and this player are doing. 
 

It is one of the rules of the team. Do not fraternize with the players. It is a rule! Is it a dumb rule, maybe to some, maybe not to others. It doesn't  matter. It is a rule, it is in their contracts, they are not allowed to fraternize with players. It could not be easier to understand. Do not fraternize with players. If the girls want to hook up with players, whether they be a star or a practice team member, they have to be released. Don't try out for the team if you don't  want to follow ALL the rules. Try out for a different team that doesn't care who you date. It is that simple.

[SamShmam]

11 hours ago, lemonbus230 said:

Anyone else find it odd (I really shouldn’t, but I do), that Kelli and Judy know that Kat is sleeping with a member of the football team and they have chosen to overlook it, since they think she’s one of the most beautiful on the team? Meredith may not have been on of the strongest dancers on the team, but the girls loved her as a person and would trade Kat for Meredith any day. I just find it amazing how they continually make exceptions for some and not others.

And boom goes the dynamite.  

Edited August 18, 2020 by SamShmam

[lemonbus230]

23 minutes ago, jlc said:

It is one of the rules of the team. Do not fraternize with the players. It is a rule! Is it a dumb rule, maybe to some, maybe not to others. It doesn't  matter. It is a rule, it is in their contracts, they are not allowed to fraternize with players. It could not be easier to understand. Do not fraternize with players. If the girls want to hook up with players, whether they be a star or a practice team member, they have to be released. Don't try out for the team if you don't  want to follow ALL the rules. Try out for a different team that doesn't care who you date. It is that simple.

Especially since she had to leave Honeybees because of her fraternization.

Kat was the one who reached out to the player through IG. It was not the other way around. she knowingly made a choice to break the contract.

 

 

[TB12]

8 minutes ago, lemonbus230 said:

Especially since she had to leave Honeybees because of her fraternization.

Kat was the one who reached out to the player through IG. It was not the other way around. she knowingly made a choice to break the contract.

 

 

I was never a huge Kat fan I felt like she was always trying wayyyyyyyyyy too hard to be funny, goofy... She struck me as another who made the team despite not really having the ability while others were cut for less. Another one of Kelli's pet projects that is now biting her in the butt although is it if she knows about it & is turning a blind eye to it. Boy the DCC sounds like its getting more and more toxic... 

[TUOwl84]

I wonder if Kelcey will get in any trouble since she lives with Kat?  Didn't Jenna get in trouble for not ratting on her?  Or perphaps whoever Kat's group leader is this year will get a talking to?  I agree that a rule is a rule, and what is the point of having rules if TPTB don't enforce them for EVERYONE? 

[Lexusprincess]

1 hour ago, LonghornLove said:

Geez guys, Savannah is not some incompetent fool. She was ROTY, and last year she was a top scoring vet at auditions with all Y’s and no M’s or N’s. I would like to think that she has learned some things/improved in the 3 years she’s been on this team. It’s not rocket science, I think she could manage leading the same dances she’s been doing over and over again for 3 years. But that’s just me!

I never said Savannah was an incompetent fool in my post.  I do believe she is at times a half beat behind even last year which was her third year.   There is a difference in dancing the same dances for 3 years and listening to a few notes of a song and calling out a dance that matches. We've seen group leaders struggle with that in training camp and Lexie talked about the pressure.  Amber has talked about the pressure when she was point in a hip hop routine.   Savannah is a great DCC with a good personality and very beautiful just not show group  IMO.  The whole team does not need to be on show group and they use Savannah all the time for anything to do with the military.  ROTY usually goes to a rookie that everyone likes.

[lemonbus230]

It will be very interesting to see what Kelli and Judys next move will be because if they try to cut any other veteran, before Kat, there will be several girls that have threatened to quit. Kat is not the team/locker room favorite that she portrays. 

[Holly85]

2 minutes ago, lemonbus230 said:

It will be very interesting to see what Kelli and Judys next move will be because if they try to cut any other veteran, before Kat, there will be several girls that have threatened to quit. Kat is not the team/locker room favorite that she portrays. 

I did feel tension between kat and Kelsey on the vet vlog 

[aimeelou625]

1 hour ago, TUOwl84 said:

I wonder if Kelcey will get in any trouble since she lives with Kat?  Didn't Jenna get in trouble for not ratting on her?  Or perphaps whoever Kat's group leader is this year will get a talking to?  I agree that a rule is a rule, and what is the point of having rules if TPTB don't enforce them for EVERYONE? 

I cannot see Kat’s group leader getting talked to about it, if this is really going on, totally different situation.

Holly underage, going out to clubs and partying with Jenna.  Kat... if... doing this on her own.  Going to put this out there too, if fraternization is why she left the Honeybees, Kelly and Judy already knew about that.  They would have contacted the director at the time they were considering Kat as a TCC last year.  

I say “if” not because I don’t think it could happen, but, because it’s a little suspect to be coming out in the middle of auditions.  Where was this tea all last year?  ☕️ (takes a big sip)

Kat is a very beautiful grown up woman.  She is old enough to make her own decisions and deal with the consequences, if the are any.  Shame on the player if he has a girlfriend with Kat on the side.

Didn’t someone say Kelcey had new roommates?  Are she and Kat still rooming together?  I cannot see anyone blaming Kelcey for Kat’s supposed actions if TPTB already know this is going on.

Edited August 18, 2020 by aimeelou625

[SamShmam]

23 minutes ago, lemonbus230 said:

It will be very interesting to see what Kelli and Judys next move will be because if they try to cut any other veteran, before Kat, there will be several girls that have threatened to quit. Kat is not the team/locker room favorite that she portrays. 

THANK you for this tea, BTW. I don't doubt it for a second. Like, is it so hard for anyone to imagine a cheerleader being fake and banging a football player lol?? It's not like you said Kat's wig is actually covering a lobster growing outta her head. 

[aimeelou625]

1 hour ago, lemonbus230 said:

Especially since she had to leave Honeybees because of her fraternization.

Kat was the one who reached out to the player through IG. It was not the other way around. she knowingly made a choice to break the contract.

 

 

Was this with the Cowboy’s player or the Hornet’s player?

[scorpio1031]

1 hour ago, TUOwl84 said:

Didn't Jenna get in trouble for not ratting on her?

Jenna got in trouble for doing the exact same thing that Holly was doing.  It was just edited to make it look like Holly was the only one "fraternizing", probably cause she ending up resigning.

1 hour ago, TB12 said:

I was never a huge Kat fan I felt like she was always trying wayyyyyyyyyy too hard to be funny, goofy... She struck me as another who made the team despite not really having the ability while others were cut for less. 

Exactly! 

25 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

I did feel tension between kat and Kelsey on the vet vlog 

I just thought it was cause Kat is too much sometimes and Kelcey is too polite to say "shut up"😅

[Jess14]

2 hours ago, jlc said:

It is one of the rules of the team. Do not fraternize with the players. It is a rule! Is it a dumb rule, maybe to some, maybe not to others. It doesn't  matter. It is a rule, it is in their contracts, they are not allowed to fraternize with players. It could not be easier to understand. Do not fraternize with players. If the girls want to hook up with players, whether they be a star or a practice team member, they have to be released. Don't try out for the team if you don't  want to follow ALL the rules. Try out for a different team that doesn't care who you date. It is that simple.

I’m confused. I very clearly said it was a rule in my post, and that the DCCs selective enforcement is problematic. I just don’t personally care about the rule, and I’m not going to care about it <shrugs>. I don’t care about someone jaywalking (outside of extreme circumstances) either.... We don’t all have to be up in arms about the same things.