Season 22 Live Feed Discussion

[Pixiebomb]

20 hours ago, Lamb18 said:

Nicole told Cody that he's her final 2 because it's his turn and he deserves to win $500,000.

Cue puke emoji 🤮 

[Melina22]

36 minutes ago, himela said:

Please don't make me listen to this podcast.

Try it, you'll like it. (Evil laugh) 

Or check the BB media thread for a couple of my posts where I summed up a bit of what Tommy said. 

 

[himela]

I was thinking about the HoH letters and I came up with this idea that if I ever was to play BB (in another life), I'd make a plan with my loved one to send me a hidden message in the letter the following way: ok so lets say I'm Nicole and my allies are Cody, Enzo, Dani and Christmas. I'd ask my loved one to write the following sentence: "We went to the playground with my nephiews the other day and we had much fun! Actually the kids won a game and the gift was a colored book!". The secret here would be, the first letter of the gift the kids won would be the first letter of the person in my alliance that I should be careful of, in this instance Christmas. If there are two people I shouldn't trust, the gifts should be two! I guess many people have thought about these things and maybe this kind of plans have influenced the game one way or another, we will never know. 😛

[Pixiebomb]

11 minutes ago, himela said:

I was thinking about the HoH letters and I came up with this idea that if I ever was to play BB (in another life), I'd make a plan with my loved one to send me a hidden message in the letter the following way: ok so lets say I'm Nicole and my allies are Cody, Enzo, Dani and Christmas. I'd ask my loved one to write the following sentence: "We went to the playground with my nephiews the other day and we had much fun! Actually the kids won a game and the gift was a colored book!". The secret here would be, the first letter of the gift the kids won would be the first letter of the person in my alliance that I should be careful of, in this instance Christmas. If there are two people I shouldn't trust, the gifts should be two! I guess many people have thought about these things and maybe this kind of plans have influenced the game one way or another, we will never know. 😛

But don’t the loved ones write the letters at the beginning of the season?  So then you would have to win twice to get that second letter which might be more current. Unless loved ones provide more than one letter at the beginning. I don’t know. 

[Brian Cronin]

Yeah, I always got the impression that you had to win twice to get a fresh letter.

[Callaphera]

That's why I always think it's funny when the first HoH gets their bland, pre-written letter and it talks about how proud the family is of them! Proud of them... flying across the country, sitting in sequester at a hotel (in non 'Rona times), and then winning the first comp of the season, sometimes due to a fluke or people throwing it because they don't want first HoH? Yes, we're so proud. *wipes away a tear*

[ByaNose]

I was watching RHAP last night with Tommy Bracco. Nice interview. Anyway, they talked with Tommy’s father (who is hysterical) about the HOH letter since he had to “write” one for Tommy. He said it’s pretty well edited and rewritten per BB until they are happy with it. He did say he put a special hint for a Tommy in the letter but it went over Tommy’s head and he missed it. 

[Callaphera]

I blame Dick for the sanitized letters - and this time, it's not just opinion, it's true! And also blaming Dick is as fun as blaming Derrick. 

[mertensia]

19 hours ago, Callaphera said:

Franzel is the poster child for internalized misogyny. 

Not Grodner?

[Alice Mudgarden]

11 minutes ago, mertensia said:

Not Grodner?

I like to think of it as those old "Got Milk?" ads, where different people were featured. It can read "Got Boobs?" and the smaller print can be all about why you're terrible and unequal if you do, and that the menfolk are stronger, smarter and better in every way imaginable. Even if they're heinous both inside and out.

[LoveLeigh]

17 hours ago, Machiabelly said:

I am fairly sure it is not considered a game show, not in that way at least. It is reality entertainment and I wouldn't be surprised if the contract they sign says that CBS can do anything they want. Up to, and including, picking the winner.

It is a combination of labels but regardless, it is tampering by former "contestants" who were on this show who tried to influence contestants who would be in the new season of the show. 

CBS may be allowed to influence the game, but they are production. (After all, they script the diary room dialogue). It is quite different when the players engage in behavior that decides the outcome prior to the show even beginning especially when the prize is money. THAT is a scandal. 

Edited October 10, 2020 by DakotaLavender
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[Callaphera]

7 minutes ago, DakotaLavender said:

It is a combination of labels but regardless, it is tampering by former "contestants" who were on this show who tried to influence contestants who would be in the new season of the show. 

CBS may be allowed to influence the game, but they are production. (After all, they script the diary room dialogue). It is quite different when the players engage in behavior that decides the outcome prior to the show even beginning. THAT is a scandal. 

It would have been a scandal back in BB18, then, because Derrick also messed with that game. There's no telling how that changed the season (from what I know, Derrick told people to gun hard for Vanessa Rousso because she was believed to be a returnee but it was her sister Tiffany instead) if it did at all but this isn't the first time it's happened. Original All Stars had pre-season alliances and deals. It just wasn't orchestrated by someone on the outside who isn't playing.

Derrick's pre-gaming could have amounted to nothing if the big alliance didn't become the big alliance. But it did so here we are and fuck Derrick. Also to a smaller degree, fuck Dan because he also pre-gamed for Memphis. It's just that Dan was quieter about it and he's more likable so he slides a bit. 

Also and I really hate to say this but if the rumours about Franzel keeping her mouth shut about being part of BB22 is true? She kinda deserves some props for getting to where she has without the benefit of a pre-game deal. She's about the only one who wormed her way deep into the jury phase without a pre-game deal (because Christmas has one with Tyler as part of the original Christmas/Josh/Tyler/Kaycee alliance that got taken out by Miss 'Rona). 

[Dmarie019]

6 hours ago, JediDVguy said:

Honest question: If Cody and Nicole did have a pregame agreement, would it really change anything? Janelle and Kaysar or Bayleigh and Da’Vonne could’ve been the duo that steamrolled the competition, but they didn’t win challenges and they didn’t make the right alliances, so they were evicted. Cody and Nicole suck as television personalities, but I don’t see their potential pregaming as having any serious impact on the outcome of the season.

Now, Cody having that unfair advantage in the very first HoH on the other hand...

I've been saying this the entire season..... but apparently people still think Derrick is in the DR giving The Committee tips every week. 

[Callaphera]

14 minutes ago, Dmarie019 said:

I've been saying this the entire season..... but apparently people still think Derrick is in the DR giving The Committee tips every week. 

Maybe Derrick is writing all their HoH letters in secret code and that's why all the letters are bland and impersonal and don't mention real life events. 

Also: HELEN WAS PUSHED

Edited October 10, 2020 by Callaphera

[Ellee]

If the season wouldn’t have been such a disappointment neither Derrick or Dan would have been mentioned.   

We just needed a good season.  

 

[peachmangosteen]

[Ellee]

She has no clue.  No clue at all. 
 

 

[Growsonwalls]

Nicole won veto 😞 Nothing interesting will happen this week. Again. Memphis goes home.

[Irishsecra]

Well I hate Memphis so I am ok with him going home.

2 comp wins in a row Nicole 

building that Final 2 resume.

enzo should have taken her out in the triple  

[Callaphera]

34 minutes ago, Growsonwalls said:

Nicole won veto 😞 Nothing interesting will happen this week. Again. Memphis goes home.

There goes our last hope at a spoiler to an inevitable Cody win. 

You know what's worse? HE'S GOING TO BREAK THE OTEV CURSE. It's like the worst one-two punch from Cody and Franzel ever. She was the first woman to beat a man and win her season and he's going to be the first one to break the OTEV curse and they're both sailing into F2 unbothered. 

[ByaNose]

I cancelled my live feeds. I just can’t with Nicole winning HOH & Veto. I’m guessing she & Cody will be the Final 2 with Cody winning. That’s another thing that I just can’t.......... I think Cody has played a good game (with a huge alliance behind him) but is so boring as a character that’s there is nothing to root for. Oddly enough, it’s Memphis who organized the whole alliance, right? Now, that alliance is going to blindside him (hopefully) on Thursday. If it’s a true blindside I am curious about his reaction. So with all of that I don’t need to torture myself with the live feeds. Bring on The Amazing Race and hopefully, someday, Survivor. At least, next year we are guaranteed an all newbie season.....I think. 

[ilovebeaarthur]

1 hour ago, Irishsecra said:

Well I hate Memphis so I am ok with him going home.

2 comp wins in a row Nicole 

building that Final 2 resume.

enzo should have taken her out in the triple  

My husband will be ecstatic that Memphis is going home. I do a mush mouth rendition of “Walking in Memphis” whenever Memphis appears. 

[GonnahearmeRoar]

Go Nicole! Where the heck has this girl been hiding all season? Good for her although I 100% know she is NOT going to win it all. It will be Cody or Enzo in my opinion. 

[BK1978]

2 hours ago, Irishsecra said:

enzo should have taken her out in the triple  

That's what I'm saying yo.

[30 Helens]

So has Nicole actually been as helpless and weak as she appeared all season, or was she just biding her time like a sneaky snake in the grass, waiting to unleash her inner comp beast and smoke all these boys to the ground? Hmm...

Seriously, if she wins again, I just cannot. And it’s not even my daughter’s birthday.

[Tuxcat]

2 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:

So has Nicole actually been as helpless and weak as she appeared all season, or was she just biding her time like a sneaky snake in the grass, waiting to unleash her inner comp beast and smoke all these boys to the ground? Hmm...

Seriously, if she wins again, I just cannot. And it’s not even my daughter’s birthday.

She's a two sided coin. On one side she's whiny, needy, self defeating and continuously  seeking a strong male to prop her up. On the other side she's almost overly self absorbed, hypocritical, a sneaky snake - oh and still whiny. Every day it's a 50/50 toss up on which one we will see. 

I wonder if she'd even consider backdooring Cody (which is what Xmas wants her to do). But I think she will stay in the comfort of Cody's protection and then try to persuade the jury by saying she's the biggest threat and she still got to F2 and won the comps she needed to...blah blah.

If she's smart she should sit next to Xmas or even Enzo. She knows Cody wins if she bring him and has even said she's 100 percent fine with that. 

I keep flip flopping on who Cody will take. He's outright said to Enzo "I'm taking you" but he hasn't said it outright to Nicole. I think he's hoping he wins HOH next week and Enzo or Nicole shoot at each other.

 

[Callaphera]

10 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:

So has Nicole actually been as helpless and weak as she appeared all season, or was she just biding her time like a sneaky snake in the grass, waiting to unleash her inner comp beast and smoke all these boys to the ground? Hmm...

I believed Big Meech then, I believe Big Meech now. 

[30 Helens]

As someone who does not follow other BB forums, podcasts, etc., I have a question about the conspiracy theories surrounding Derrick and the alliance. What precisely is alleged and what is the evidence of it happening? Did Derrick just coach Cody/ facilitate introductions or did he supposedly lay out an entire game plan (and how would that be possible without knowing how comps/ noms would play out?) I know there has been talk of money sharing, but where is the evidence of that? 

If there was pregaming (and I assume there was, to a degree), how is this Derrick’s fault? I mean, given that contestants in a season like this have prior relationships, it stands to reason that some of them would talk about working together. Even Janelle and Kaysar admitted to talking pre-game. It would certainly be better for the game if this didn’t happen, but I don’t think it’s realistic to think it could be avoided. 

I’m not trying to be argumentative, I’ve just seen so much animosity toward Derrick for being the one who seemingly singlehandedly ruined the season, and I’m curious as to how that came to be the accepted reason.  Because as far as I can tell, the season was ruined by boring people coming together to join a boring impenetrable alliance, and I don’t know why they would even need Derrick for that.  And since there’s so little left to talk about these days... Anyone care to enlighten me? 

[30 Helens]

30 minutes ago, Tuxcat said:

She's a two sided coin. On one side she's whiny, needy, self defeating and continuously  seeking a strong male to prop her up. On the other side she's almost overly self absorbed, hypocritical, a sneaky snake - oh and still whiny.

So what you’re saying is, she’s one part Dani and one part Christmas?

I believe you’re right that backdooring Cody would be the smart move, and probably the only way she could win. Winning again would also make her the BB equivalent of Survivor’s Sandra, which is just too sad to contemplate.

Edited October 11, 2020 by 30 Helens
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[30 Helens]

On the feeds, Enzo Nicole and Xmas are discussing the veto comp. It was the comic book challenge.

Enzo liked his. He was the Meow Meow, as predicted. He liked his tail. He seemed possibly annoyed that his whiskers were gray.

They don’t understand Davonne’s. It was her wrapping twine around some guy, with a caption about not giving up on your dreams? They can’t remember what it said, but none of it made any sense to them.

David’s featured him against Goliath. But they didn’t understand why there were multiple Davids. Because of his multiple personalities, Xmas wonders?

Nicole was the cereal killer. She glosses right past any description; I don’t think she cared for it.

Kaysar was King Kaysar. They don’t know why. Their guesses: Because he thinks he’s smarter than us? Because production thinks he’s the king? 

No mention of any others. I must have missed those.

Christmas doesn’t care if America loves her or hate her. When she tries to play the good girl, they hate her anyway, so who cares.

[30 Helens]

Nicole is eating gummies. That was her #1 HoH snack choice.

Xmas leaves and Nicole and Enzo start laughing. Seems like Xmas walked in on them +.Cody finishing a bottle of wine without her. Not only that, Nicole was running to hide the empty bottle. Nicole can’t stop giggling. She says Xmas is so mad. But she didn’t share her HoH wine with me, so why should I care? Enzo says Xmas should just be happy that she’s staying this week.

Now Nicole is paranoid and thinks Xmas might cut her because of the wine. Enzo tells her to say Cody drank it all. He says he is getting rid of Cody at F3. (Yeah, sure.) Nicole says she, Cody and Enzo have to get to F3. She has worked too hard to go out in 4th place. She’s ok with 3rd because she at least gets to stay until finale night. Enzo is confident. He says he came in guns blazing, and has just been in a slump.

Enzo talks about Cody— you’ve done enough, yo! Third place is perfect for you. You’ve got the looks, the 6-pack, the beautiful girlfriend, you’re an actor/model... enough! Nicole can’t stop laughing.

[30 Helens]

Nicole continues to fret about the wine.  They make up a cover story to tell Xmas about why they hid it from her, so it doesn’t look so bad. I don’t know how many bottles they drank, but they both sound drunk. They don’t want to go to F3 with Xmas because they will never get a second alone. She will follow them everywhere and they’ll have to go in the bathroom to game talk. 

Nicole tells a story about walking into the HoH room when Xmas and Tyler had been talking and saw a bunch of empties. That’s when she knew they had a F2. She says wine, and who you share it with, is a big deal.  

They say they’d rather keep Memphis this week because they like him better. But Xmas is easier to beat.

Enzo doesn’t understand why people hold grudges after the game is over. They are playing characters, and when it’s over, it’s over. He holds nothing against anyone. 

[himela]

Imagine Nicole backdooring Cody. Even if she doesn't even make it to final two, how much of a legendary move will it be and stay as one in the history of big brother? Same as John cutting Neda at final three (almost). She doesn't seem to care about the money that much, she HAS to do it. It will be SWEET. The jury will LOVE it. WE will love it. It will be epic.

[Summerday]

Oh my Lord. Kill me now.

Edited October 11, 2020 by Summerday

[Melina22]

2 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

Nicole is eating gummies. That was her #1 HoH snack choice.

I will never, ever understand why people think gummies are good. 

2 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

Not only that, Nicole was running to hide the empty bottle. Nicole can’t stop giggling

 

2 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

Now Nicole is paranoid and thinks Xmas might cut her because of the wine.

Nicole makes zero sense to me this season. I cannot read her personality at all. 

[mertensia]

1 hour ago, Melina22 said:

I will never, ever understand why people think gummies are good. 

 

Nicole makes zero sense to me this season. I cannot read her personality at all. 

Depends on the gummy. I love the Haribo peach ones. I grew up with Fazer fruit jellies which maybe might be considered gummies.

[Ellee]

There is too much activity to read it all.   Guess it’s nap time. 

[zorak]

4 hours ago, 30 Helens said:

Enzo liked his. He was the Meow Meow, as predicted. He liked his tail. He seemed possibly annoyed that his whiskers were gray.

A man who has a huge bald spot on top of his head was annoyed that the whiskers were gray?  I think he should be grateful they didn't try to make Meow Meow Man look like a hairless cat.

[LoveLeigh]

Well now is the chance to get Cody out. This might be the only chance to ruin Derrick's plan. If Nicole does not use her veto to take down Christmas and put up Cody, I suppose she thinks in her own mind she will win against him.

As much as I dislike Nicole, I dislike pre game planning more. So leave Memphis, Enzo, Christmas and Nicole in the game and let it ride to finale night.

If Nicole does not use that veto and put up Cody, I suppose she is delusional and thinks she will win against him? Not using the POV will be the stupidest move since Marcellus played BB. 

Edited October 11, 2020 by DakotaLavender
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[Ellee]

Have they talked about everyone’s comics?  I’ve read Enzo’s and Nicole’s.  Don’t seem to be finding anyone else.  

[peachmangosteen]

16 minutes ago, Ellee said:

Have they talked about everyone’s comics?  I’ve read Enzo’s and Nicole’s.  Don’t seem to be finding anyone else.  

Someone posted about a few of them on the last page.

I wish Nicole would own what a heinous, manipulative little bitch she is. Fucking hell, that bitch is good at being cunning. If she would just own it, she would be rootable tbh. That being said, if she were to cut Cody (even though you know she'd just cry about it and not own it) I would legitimately root for her to win. She would never do it though. 

[ByaNose]

It’s going to be a long week in the house. They all know they’re voting out Memphis but have to act around him like he’s staying, I can’t stand that Cody & Nicole most likely will make it to the Final 2. I want Cody to get a real job and not win $500,000. I also don’t want Nicole to have the satisfaction of getting 2nd place and (some) bragging rights that she was the last woman standing. I guess all future HG are going to make 7 people alliances on Day 1 and hopefully win either a lot of HOH’s or Veto’s. I’m not sure they’d be as successful since their cast sorta knew each other but there anything to prevent it from happening again. I guess a new format could but it won’t stop some jocks from trying to form a big alliance on Day 1. 

[peachmangosteen]

5 minutes ago, ByaNose said:

I guess all future HG are going to make 7 people alliances on Day 1 and hopefully win either a lot of HOH’s or Veto’s. I’m not sure they’d be as successful since their cast sorta knew each other but there anything to prevent it from happening again. 

That's what's been essentially happening since BB16 so it doesn't matter whether they know each other or not. That's just how the game is played now. Which is why the game/show is so boring and stagnant. Cancel it already!

I didn't actually watch this because just seeing the cap of Derrick's ugly pig face made me sick, but if someone else could take one for the team and let me know what it says, I'd greatly appreciate it lol.

[Michichick]

11 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

That's what's been essentially happening since BB16 so it doesn't matter whether they know each other or not. That's just how the game is played now. Which is why the game/show is so boring and stagnant. Cancel it already!

I didn't actually watch this because just seeing the cap of Derrick's ugly pig face made me sick, but if someone else could take one for the team and let me know what it says, I'd greatly appreciate it lol.

Derrick swears on his children that he had no idea Nicole was going to be on this season and therefore the idea that he set her up with Cody is ridiculous.

[Ellee]

I did. Derrick says he did not know Nicole F was on this season.  Nicole’s family can confirm it.

Me now:  Who knows. Who cares. We were robbed of a good season.  Doesn’t matter.  We lost regardless. 

[Ellee]

So Nicole and Cody’s convo .... does that mean we should be mom-shaming?  🙄😁😂

[peachmangosteen]

I like how Derrick is set on the Ratcole part of it all when that’s pretty much irrelevant. Cody and Ratcole have several different kinds of connections with each other so of course they’d link up. Maybe talk about how you called people that you/he didn’t play with/know when you weren’t even gonna be on this season. Shut up, you pig faced asshole!

OK, now back to me not giving one shit about the rest of this completely-horrible-in-every-way season.

[Jess14]

2 hours ago, DakotaLavender said:

Well now is the chance to get Cody out. This might be the only chance to ruin Derrick's plan. If Nicole does not use her veto to take down Christmas and put up Cody, I suppose she thinks in her own mind she will win against him.

As much as I dislike Nicole, I dislike pre game planning more. So leave Memphis, Enzo, Christmas and Nicole in the game and let it ride to finale night.

If Nicole does not use that veto and put up Cody, I suppose she is delusional and thinks she will win against him? Not using the POV will be the stupidest move since Marcellus played BB. 

It pains me to say this because I can’t stand Nicole and would love to pile on her for potentially making a dumb move, but I actually don’t think it would be smart for Nicole to take out Cody now. Now, I would love it (finally something interesting!), but I don’t see how it makes sense for her game. Backdooring Cody would arguably give her the best resume of the remaining houseguests, and in turn, she would almost certainly get cut next week if she didn’t win the veto. Keeping the Memphis/Christmas duo in the house does nothing to help her. Cody will at least take her to final 3. 

I do agree that she won’t beat Cody in the end, so I think she should absolutely take Cody out at Final 4 or 3 if she has the shot. However, she has to make it to the end first, and I think her odds of making it past next week are better with Cody in the house than with Memphis.

[peachmangosteen]

It’s not the ideal time but the cards are aligned for it to be done now and it likely won’t be possible after this. But for her it probably isn’t worth it because there’s a solid shot he’ll take her to the end and then she gets an additional 50K. Cutting him now increases her odds of winning by a ton but also increases her odds of not making F2 by a ton. It all comes down to whether she’s trying to win or she’s just playing for second. And if seems like she’s at least fake fine with second so she’s just not gonna cut him.

[Jess14]

39 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

It’s not the ideal time but the cards are aligned for it to be done now and it likely won’t be possible after this. But for her it probably isn’t worth it because there’s a solid shot he’ll take her to the end and then she gets an additional 50K. Cutting him now increases her odds of winning by a ton but also increases her odds of not making F2 by a ton. It all comes down to whether she’s trying to win or she’s just playing for second. And if seems like she’s at least fake fine with second so she’s just not gonna cut him.

Yeah, I think definitely that’s the question. Cutting Cody could pay off for her, but it could just easily cost her the shot at getting any money, and for me at least, $50k is better than $0. 

I just always feel like final 4 is so risky. The only way to be safe is to be HOH, and Nicole already cannot be HOH. The next way to be safe is to have other people in the house who won’t evict you. Cody, Enzo, Nicole, Christmas - I don’t think she gets cut. Enzo should cut her at that point, but I don’t see it. However, a final 4 with Christmas, Enzo, Memphis Nicole - well, she better win that veto or she’s gone.

If Christmas was HOH, there’s no way she would get rid of Memphis and keep Cody, because Memphis would take her to end and Cody wouldn’t. I don’t see how it’s all that different for Nicole. Those are my thoughts at least, but again, I would be thrilled if she did cut Cody now - it would finally be good tv. 

Edited October 11, 2020 by Jess14